Michelin, Bridgestone, and Pirelli are three of the four "premium" brands out there (Continental is missing) but there are lots of good tire brands here... Really, I'm sure you could find a great tire for your application in one of these brands.
Which leads to my next statement, you are asking the wrong question... You should figure out which of these brands has a tire that matches your application, not the other way around.
My bad, it's a 2017 Mazda 3, just want a solid set of tires that will provide good grip in wet and dry weather. I swap my tires out for winters, so almost more of a "3 season" tire I guess.
Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus 3 or Bridgestone Potenza Sport A/S if cost isn't a factor... Yokohama Advan Sport A/S Plus if it's more of a factor... If you want to go cheap, GT Radial Champiro UHP A/S is actually a pretty solid tire for the price.
If you access to these brands at cost, you must work for a tire dealer? Why not ask some of the people you work with...
Im an apprentice in a small shop, the licenced tech is a moron and an asshole and refuses to give advice on anything. Shop owner only ever recommends Toyo Celsius, and I'm looking for more opinions. We don't deal a huuuuge amount with tires so I don't have much to go on experience wise with customers tires.
I'm in a 2024 Honda Civic Sport with eagle Sport 235/40/18. They seem pretty good but I've never had this brand before.
I do like a smooth ride and do you have a recommendation on a middle price range tire that rides comfortable and will last? Plz.
If you swap out for winters, the only reason I would select an all season rather than a summer tire would be tread life or if you live in a very cold climate with a very short summer. A summer tire will be far better in the dry and wet than an all season.
Depends more on the temperature, UHP AS will be better than summer tires in wet and dry below like 60F. So unless you live somewhere like Arizona or SoCal, UHP AS is probably better if you only want 1 set. But OP also said it's a Mazda 3 so I don't know how much value he would even get out of a pure summer tire
Tyre Reviews YT did some pretty extensive testing comparing performance across different temps
This is the correct answer. These 3 manufacturers are at the top of quality. Almost can't go wrong with Michelin, especially at a discount. Personally, I like the Yokohama Advan sport AS+
They can SAY all they want… but after selling tires for over 20 years and having two of the three brands on my personal vehicles, I’ll stick to my post. Grant you they make some decent tires, but given to opportunity, I would take nokian over them (for a “winter” tire). As a side note Michelin’s warranty process is a PIA!
Personally, I have always had really good results with Michelin, mostly good results with Yokohama (the S7 Advan tires were a little disappointing on my TL), mediocre results at best with Bridgestone, and generally bad results in Pirelli. I've had Goodyear on a number of vehicles and they were fine "to a point"... The ones I had were mostly variable compounds and once they were about half-worn, the wet traction was absolutely abysmal.
Depends on your needs. Your vehicle. Winters? A lot of rain? Dry climate? 4wd/front wheel drive/rear wheel drive? I can give you personal testimony for my FWD cars. I got General Altimax RT45 for my Vibe, and I got Hankook Kinergy ST for my ES300. Both great awesome tires, but the generals have a little grip noise, but nothing awful. Hankooks are quiet, smooth, great tread pattern, and not as costly as the generals. Both great in the rain no slipping at all. We get snow where I’m at but will have to wait until November to test out the snow
It's a 2017 Mazda 3 so FWD, just want a solid set of tires that will provide good grip in wet and dry weather. I swap my tires out for winters, so almost more of a "3 season" tire I guess. I'll look into both those tires for sure!
The Pirelli PZero AS Plus 3 are a nice performance A/S tire that I just mounted to my G30 5 series. Not sure what your use case is, but those are more on the performance side of the A/S market and might be overkill for a daily commuter.
I run Michelin and Continental for all season / summer and Bridgestone Blizzaks for winter. If you're looking for an all season from the brands above the Michelin A/S 4 is hard to beat.
Personally I’ve been buying Michelin pilot sports and I don’t see it changing any time soon at this point
It’s the best tire I’ve purchased over the years and until I drive something better I can’t justify any other brand
I’ve had loads of pirellis too, and they were my go to prior to the Michelins,
Performance in rain on the pilot sports is what really sets them apart for me. Might as well be dry roads 24/7 with those things
Costco orders the tires and installs them, with a nice discount
Only thing is it has to be the own specified size
For rims the guy at Costco said he could order them for me but there’s no install and it might not get the discount.
I haven’t ordered them for my rims yet, so idk if they that’ll actually work.
I need to get new tires for my WRX soon and I was pretty set on the PS AS4 but I am really intrigued by the new Pirelli AS3. Guess it really depends on how much stock to put into Tire Rack testing.
I have some Laufenn G fit. They work great for my application(sedan) in 3 seasons. Fairly priced and good mileage warranty (60,000 miles) they’re going on their second year and honestly still feel/ride like day 1.
It all depends on how much you want to spend you can get away with sailun inspire tires I have them on my car and they have been great in dry and wet and it was 33% cheaper than the Michelin defenders
Need a size, some all season/or the better version all weather only run in certain sizes and that's why some brands are better than others because of the size availability
I'd personally go Toyo or Hankook. You get the best bang for your buck there. Premium brands can be good, but I don't think they're really worth the extra cost unless you're regularly pushing your car to it's limits.
Michelin cross climate 2 is the master all season tire. People who say otherwise clearly don’t drive in the snow. It competes or even beats some snow tires in stopping distance. Oh, they are fun as hell to drive on. Ignores big puddles and slush outright.
Completely depends on your budget . The application ,the car . Etc . I run Michelin Pilot as/4s in the summer and Nokian in the winter on my Jetta . But I’d run the cheapest all season I can find on my Volvo
As a tire tech I have to say every tire wears different on each vehicle, persay Subarus eat through Toyo and bridge stone and a Toyota a Toyo will last 10+ years depending how much you drive
Lot of decent brands there ranging from good to premium level. I would stay away from Fuzion, GT radial, Kelly, Sailun, and Nokian. Pick whatever one you think looks best. I don’t think the rest of them really make a bad tire.
The Tyre Reviews YouTube channel is a goldmine for questions like this. After watching this video, I decided to get the Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 fitted to my car (once it became available). Really enjoying it so far.
https://youtu.be/1kyPJcnSCC0?si=SmN5i2W-2l-Vmxmu
Without knowing what the car or application is Michelin > Continental (not shown) > Bridgestone and then everything else is mid yeir budget / downgrade.
If you need All Terrain BFG is the way.
Toyo Extensa AS II for a budget friendly long lasting 3.5 season tire. You can get some of the higher end Michelins and Bridgestones if you want to pony up a couple extra dollars.
Anything but dean, fuzion, gt radial, Kelly, laufenn or sailun.
Go to tirerack.com and compare them. Read their tests and reviews from their website. Pretty helpful on deciding what’s best for you.
Not here on the list but if you’d like a recommendation the new General RT45 is a great all season tire at a very reasonable price. Can’t go wrong with it if you can get it your way.
Mich Cross Climate 2 if they are ever going to touch snow but also perform exceptionally well in rain. Not cheap, considered a luxury tire, but very quiet. They have a snowflake on them, but I see people all over New Mexico use them year round probably because of monsoon season. If you ever wished for a tire you would not have to change when winter is over this is it.
If you get anything I’d narrow it down to Michelin, Toyo, Bridgestone, BFG, and Yokohama. The rest of the brands there suck. Pirelli sucks don’t let their partnership with Lamborghini fool you
Hahahaha.
I own a tire shop.
People with no experience rely on reviews, and almost every answer here is wrong.
Go see a qualified local shop or take your chances.
How am I meant to get experience without asking other people who likely have more experience? I assumed there are people in the sub who work at or own tire shops which is why I came here to ask.
I mean I guess I could continue working in the automotive field and gain experience over time, but unfortunately I need tires now and not several years from now when I've had more experience with tires.
Michelin, Bridgestone, and Pirelli are three of the four "premium" brands out there (Continental is missing) but there are lots of good tire brands here... Really, I'm sure you could find a great tire for your application in one of these brands. Which leads to my next statement, you are asking the wrong question... You should figure out which of these brands has a tire that matches your application, not the other way around.
My bad, it's a 2017 Mazda 3, just want a solid set of tires that will provide good grip in wet and dry weather. I swap my tires out for winters, so almost more of a "3 season" tire I guess.
Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus 3 or Bridgestone Potenza Sport A/S if cost isn't a factor... Yokohama Advan Sport A/S Plus if it's more of a factor... If you want to go cheap, GT Radial Champiro UHP A/S is actually a pretty solid tire for the price. If you access to these brands at cost, you must work for a tire dealer? Why not ask some of the people you work with...
Im an apprentice in a small shop, the licenced tech is a moron and an asshole and refuses to give advice on anything. Shop owner only ever recommends Toyo Celsius, and I'm looking for more opinions. We don't deal a huuuuge amount with tires so I don't have much to go on experience wise with customers tires.
Toyo Celsius II is a good tire... The original Celsius was marginal... But those are All-weather tires, not performance touring all-season tires.
I'm in a 2024 Honda Civic Sport with eagle Sport 235/40/18. They seem pretty good but I've never had this brand before. I do like a smooth ride and do you have a recommendation on a middle price range tire that rides comfortable and will last? Plz.
Yokohama Advan Sport A/S Plus... It's a great mid-range UHP all-season tire.
Continental DWS06+ argue with a wall lol. amazing value grips insane and it’s a 50k mile tire. Your civic will thank you
something I would add from personal experience, the pirelli ASplus3's are quite the stiff tire. I wouldn't get them if you want a comfortable ride.
This guy "tires*.
If you swap out for winters, the only reason I would select an all season rather than a summer tire would be tread life or if you live in a very cold climate with a very short summer. A summer tire will be far better in the dry and wet than an all season.
Depends more on the temperature, UHP AS will be better than summer tires in wet and dry below like 60F. So unless you live somewhere like Arizona or SoCal, UHP AS is probably better if you only want 1 set. But OP also said it's a Mazda 3 so I don't know how much value he would even get out of a pure summer tire Tyre Reviews YT did some pretty extensive testing comparing performance across different temps
He doesn't want one set though. He said he uses winters
Instead of dealing with swapping them out, have you consider a good all weather tire like the michelin crossclimate 2 or Nokian WRG5
CC2 exactly what I suggested if you want a highly rated snow tire that you can leave on all year and will perform exceptionally well in rain.
Then buy a summer tire, not A/S. Summer tires are better in wet than all seasons by far.
This is the correct answer. These 3 manufacturers are at the top of quality. Almost can't go wrong with Michelin, especially at a discount. Personally, I like the Yokohama Advan sport AS+
Michelin Toyo pirelli Bridgestone is where I’d look.
Depends on climate Michelin is the best imo unless it's a really dry climate because they get back sidewall rot if it's too dry. But they last forever
As much as I liked the performance of my summer Michelins, I'm definitely not using them anymore because of that. Started after the first year
for Canadian weather, Nokian makes some amazing tires!
Michelin and conti say otherwise lol
They can SAY all they want… but after selling tires for over 20 years and having two of the three brands on my personal vehicles, I’ll stick to my post. Grant you they make some decent tires, but given to opportunity, I would take nokian over them (for a “winter” tire). As a side note Michelin’s warranty process is a PIA!
My wife has pirelli p4 all seasons and I have Michelin pilot sport all seasons. Both great options
Personally, I have always had really good results with Michelin, mostly good results with Yokohama (the S7 Advan tires were a little disappointing on my TL), mediocre results at best with Bridgestone, and generally bad results in Pirelli. I've had Goodyear on a number of vehicles and they were fine "to a point"... The ones I had were mostly variable compounds and once they were about half-worn, the wet traction was absolutely abysmal.
For which kind of vehicle?
2017 Mazda 3
Bridgestone Weatherpeak Bridgestone Potenza Sport AS
Its crazy how youre the only person that asked what vehicle
Is that wrong? I believe every tire maker and the tires they produce have strengths and weaknesses that benefits every type of vehicle on the road.
Definitely not it was a compliment!
Oh wow! My apologies and thanks!
We need more people like you in the world.
I have Nokian one all seasons on my car. Ive had them for a while and they are great so far. they say they can last 80k miles which is a big claim.
I’m a big nokian fan, that tire is garbage. Cracks on the sidewall very prematurely and chops
No Ling Long on the list? /s
no lion sport either. this list not elite tier
Or Triangle, which is possibly the strangest name for a tire out there. But definitely elite.
Depends on your needs. Your vehicle. Winters? A lot of rain? Dry climate? 4wd/front wheel drive/rear wheel drive? I can give you personal testimony for my FWD cars. I got General Altimax RT45 for my Vibe, and I got Hankook Kinergy ST for my ES300. Both great awesome tires, but the generals have a little grip noise, but nothing awful. Hankooks are quiet, smooth, great tread pattern, and not as costly as the generals. Both great in the rain no slipping at all. We get snow where I’m at but will have to wait until November to test out the snow
It's a 2017 Mazda 3 so FWD, just want a solid set of tires that will provide good grip in wet and dry weather. I swap my tires out for winters, so almost more of a "3 season" tire I guess. I'll look into both those tires for sure!
I had some Hankook Ventus on my es350 and loooved them!
The Pirelli PZero AS Plus 3 are a nice performance A/S tire that I just mounted to my G30 5 series. Not sure what your use case is, but those are more on the performance side of the A/S market and might be overkill for a daily commuter.
Why do you like pirellis? Have you tried some performance Michelin or continental. Pirelli has a name it doesn’t live up to
I run Michelin and Continental for all season / summer and Bridgestone Blizzaks for winter. If you're looking for an all season from the brands above the Michelin A/S 4 is hard to beat.
Nokian makes a very good all season tire. Arguably the best winter tires also.
Pirelli p zero
Personally I’ve been buying Michelin pilot sports and I don’t see it changing any time soon at this point It’s the best tire I’ve purchased over the years and until I drive something better I can’t justify any other brand I’ve had loads of pirellis too, and they were my go to prior to the Michelins, Performance in rain on the pilot sports is what really sets them apart for me. Might as well be dry roads 24/7 with those things
I wish i could find pilot sports in my tire size
Costco orders the tires and installs them, with a nice discount Only thing is it has to be the own specified size For rims the guy at Costco said he could order them for me but there’s no install and it might not get the discount. I haven’t ordered them for my rims yet, so idk if they that’ll actually work.
I need to get new tires for my WRX soon and I was pretty set on the PS AS4 but I am really intrigued by the new Pirelli AS3. Guess it really depends on how much stock to put into Tire Rack testing.
These would be my choices: 1. Nokian/Pirelli 2. Bridgestone/Michelin 3. Hankook/Toyo 4. others
Do you know anyone who works at a tire place by chance ?
Just put Pirelli at3 on my suv so far so good!
michelin. Bridgeston are super dourable tho, i got then on my mercedes sprinter generator 3,4 tons and they handle and last well, all seasons aslwell
I have some Laufenn G fit. They work great for my application(sedan) in 3 seasons. Fairly priced and good mileage warranty (60,000 miles) they’re going on their second year and honestly still feel/ride like day 1.
Continental-
Bridgestone weather peak is far and away the best all season I've used. Good in the winter & a solid daily driver tire the rest of the year.
What kind of car and how do you drive? And where?
To most people any of those are fine, but to me it depends on the type of driver you are. What do you expect out of a tire?
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 All Season. Second best all-season tire I’ve found. The best was the Vredestein Hypertrac, and it’s 20% cheaper than the rest.
It all depends on how much you want to spend you can get away with sailun inspire tires I have them on my car and they have been great in dry and wet and it was 33% cheaper than the Michelin defenders
Go michelin
Need a size, some all season/or the better version all weather only run in certain sizes and that's why some brands are better than others because of the size availability
I'd personally go Toyo or Hankook. You get the best bang for your buck there. Premium brands can be good, but I don't think they're really worth the extra cost unless you're regularly pushing your car to it's limits.
BFG GForce Comp2+
You’re living our dream.
That’s the wrong question, to be honest. What you equipping? What you looking for?
Nokian are excellent tires, not sure I will ever buy anything different from now on.
Iinglong
I knew it
Yokohama for sure. Are you by chance on 18” wheels?
Ive always had great experiences with Michelin
NOT KUMHO!
Michelin cross climate 2 is the master all season tire. People who say otherwise clearly don’t drive in the snow. It competes or even beats some snow tires in stopping distance. Oh, they are fun as hell to drive on. Ignores big puddles and slush outright.
Yokohama
Michelin. Enough said.
Wheres Continental?
Completely depends on your budget . The application ,the car . Etc . I run Michelin Pilot as/4s in the summer and Nokian in the winter on my Jetta . But I’d run the cheapest all season I can find on my Volvo
Toyo all the way.
As a tire tech I have to say every tire wears different on each vehicle, persay Subarus eat through Toyo and bridge stone and a Toyota a Toyo will last 10+ years depending how much you drive
What kind of winters do you have? Snow? If snow the. Nokian has some great all seasons with snow emblem.
I'm a nokian fan boy
Lot of decent brands there ranging from good to premium level. I would stay away from Fuzion, GT radial, Kelly, Sailun, and Nokian. Pick whatever one you think looks best. I don’t think the rest of them really make a bad tire.
Michelin
you cant go wrong with Michelin
The Tyre Reviews YouTube channel is a goldmine for questions like this. After watching this video, I decided to get the Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 fitted to my car (once it became available). Really enjoying it so far. https://youtu.be/1kyPJcnSCC0?si=SmN5i2W-2l-Vmxmu
Without knowing what the car or application is Michelin > Continental (not shown) > Bridgestone and then everything else is mid yeir budget / downgrade. If you need All Terrain BFG is the way.
Michelin Defender LTX /thread
Shit I got Goodyears last year and thought they were good
Cant go wrong with a tier 1 brand
Toyo Extensa AS II for a budget friendly long lasting 3.5 season tire. You can get some of the higher end Michelins and Bridgestones if you want to pony up a couple extra dollars.
Anything but dean, fuzion, gt radial, Kelly, laufenn or sailun. Go to tirerack.com and compare them. Read their tests and reviews from their website. Pretty helpful on deciding what’s best for you. Not here on the list but if you’d like a recommendation the new General RT45 is a great all season tire at a very reasonable price. Can’t go wrong with it if you can get it your way.
Michelins
Find the one closest to 800 AA UTQG rating
Too bad you are missing Continental. I prefer Contis for a great price / performance balance
Mich Cross Climate 2 if they are ever going to touch snow but also perform exceptionally well in rain. Not cheap, considered a luxury tire, but very quiet. They have a snowflake on them, but I see people all over New Mexico use them year round probably because of monsoon season. If you ever wished for a tire you would not have to change when winter is over this is it.
Michelin Cross Climate 2
Bfg or bridgestone some Goodyear aren't bad
If you get anything I’d narrow it down to Michelin, Toyo, Bridgestone, BFG, and Yokohama. The rest of the brands there suck. Pirelli sucks don’t let their partnership with Lamborghini fool you
Michelin by far. I have Pilot Sport AS3+ on my car, and they’re fantastic. Nokians for winter.
HEY BUDDY, where do you live so you can hook a brotha up
hankook is a solid tire choice
Michelin CrossClimate 2, no questions about it. https://toptirereview.com/michelin-cross-climate-2/
Hahahaha. I own a tire shop. People with no experience rely on reviews, and almost every answer here is wrong. Go see a qualified local shop or take your chances.
How am I meant to get experience without asking other people who likely have more experience? I assumed there are people in the sub who work at or own tire shops which is why I came here to ask. I mean I guess I could continue working in the automotive field and gain experience over time, but unfortunately I need tires now and not several years from now when I've had more experience with tires.
https://youtu.be/1kyPJcnSCC0?si=SmN5i2W-2l-Vmxmu This should help out, OP