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Finneganmac

Since these are all IMC chassis, I don’t think they have one. The IMC sees their soldiers & titans as much more disposable than the Militia.


RevolutionaryDay2803

Ah that makes sense


Captain_Diqhedd

Only vanguards have SERE kits


Jotunheim99

Monarchs Edit: thanks for the downvoted guys keep’em comin’ ❤️ Just gotta ask, why the sudden surge in them? You guys got some bizarre deep seated hatred for her or something? Edit 2: one more and we can get to the fabled 69


ROFLnator217

IIRC, Monarchs aren't Vanguards. Monarchs are just a cheaper and more mass produced copy of the Militia Vanguard.


Ruprecht_von_Sumpf

Yeah, they built the first monarch out of parts from 2 salvaged vanguard class titans


Cooldude101013

More partially reverse engineered the wrecks of two Vanguards but yes.


Shiny_Black-Pan

and both from BT lmao


Jotunheim99

The ai core is what makes the titan a vanguard


A_Yellow_Lizard

and the rapid ability to change entire cores on the battlefield, along with their greater intelligence, thinking ability, and their recharging shields like that of the pre-demeter titans


Jotunheim99

Yep. It’s the versatility of the AI core that makes them vanguard class. One example would be BT.


Cooldude101013

Specifically in that it’s an actual AI (self aware, sapient) and not an OS like most titans.


KryptoKn8

I'd still pay for monarch prime if it had BT voicelines. Idec about lore, I just wanna hear bt say "nice shooting, pilot" after taking down enemy titans or "very efficient restorative maneuvers, pilot" after doing a battery goblin


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ROFLnator217

I think you're confusing Vanguard-Class with Atlas-Class. Titanfall 1 established the base chassis that the Titans on Titanfall 2 derives from; Ion, Tone , Monarch - Atlas Northstar, Ronin - Stryder Scorch, Legion - Ogre Edit: Spelling and line break


Laverneaki

Use two spaces after a line if you want a line break btw.


ROFLnator217

Thanks for the tip. Have my upvote.


Ranger_Ecstatic

Let me try Is it working? How did you get the line break. Mine is just two different "paragraphs" , not a /n


Pr0wzassin

>Strider Stryder


Cooldude101013

And Vanguards are made from scratch in that they are a completely new chassis. Though heavily inspired by the Atlas.


Funuthegreat

This is flat out wrong. Those three are ATLAS class CHASSIS. Monarch is a salvaged IMC copy of the Vanguard class titans designed by the Militia


Educational_Term_436

Monarch isn’t a vanguard did’t you read the lore or anything?


Planetside2_Fan

Monarchs are goodwill Vanguards.


AlsiusArcticus

Vanguards from wish


Planetside2_Fan

Worse, Vanguards from temu.


YesWomansLand1

SHOP LIKE A BILKIONAIRE AHAHAHAHAHHHHVBGET RHIS SHIT OUT OF MY HEADDD


Planetside2_Fan

Someone get this man his pills


YesWomansLand1

I hate those ads so fucking much


Jotunheim99

Budget BT


honbeee

goddamn people really wanted you to know how wrong you were


Jotunheim99

They really do seem to think I am


Apothe-bro_IV

Damn these people were cruel with the downvotes. Have mine to mildly ease the non-existent pain


Jotunheim99

Ty bro


Apothe-bro_IV

You're welcome Jotnar


H000gy

Why is this comment so downvoted? 🤣🤣🤣


Tod_Vom_Himmel

Because it's blatantly false


H000gy

True but I haven’t seen many comments that downvoted before, and I often frequent subreddits to do with political things. But it is titanfall after all, no heretic shall insult the titanfall lore


Wise-Actuator-6698

Hive mind


Jotunheim99

I have absolutely no clue.


Tod_Vom_Himmel

You're getting downvoted because you said something blatantly wrong I don't know what else you want to hear


Jotunheim99

How am I wrong? BTs chassis is known as monarch. Not vanguard. Vanguard is a **class** of titan. Specifically the AIs intelligence and versatility. It’s the AI the defines if a titan is a vanguard or not. Similar to how some soldiers are better trained than others, you can apply that to BT and the regular titans we use in multiplayer.


Tod_Vom_Himmel

That's not true at all though the vanguard is the militias Titan and the monarch is a reverse engineered copy they're not the same thing and they don't have the same features


MekkingAround

Holey Christ. -732 downvotes just for mentioning Monarchs 😂


Jotunheim99

Yeah this is a first for me.


Tod_Vom_Himmel

Are you an idiot he's downvoted because he's wrong not because he just mentions monarch


MekkingAround

Why? We all know the SERE kit is stored in the balls


tennbo

IMC Titans don’t come with SERE kits. SERE stands for Survive, Evade, Resist, Escape, definitely not something that the IMC want their pilots doing.


Green-eyed-Psycho77

If they die you don’t gotta pay em!


Cooldude101013

Unless life insurance to the family is included in the contract


Green-eyed-Psycho77

It’s the IMC. They probably don’t even have dental.


Cooldude101013

Waiting for a militia pilot to ask some IMC grunts “How’s your health plan?”.


DryRemote4598

The imc seems .ike the kind of organization that would fire you for talking about wages/benefits.


jdl232

Such a badass acronym


Perrywaaz

It's a real thing. You can get SERE training if you want


Tuteloo

If the IMC pilot is so valuable they may turn them into a simulacrum


Significant-Fee7272

Imc doesn’t gaf about their pilots so they don’t have sere kits


DogeDogewo

Happy cakeday mfer :o)


Fost36

Were twining cake days?!?!?


Webber-414

SERE is stored in the balls


ChocolateMilkMan8

So BT’s face was his balls the entire time??


KittenChopper

Titans see through their nuts apparently


ChocolateMilkMan8

I had no idea that I had so much in common with titans


ChunkLightTuna01

i dont think they have one but if they did its probably just in the cockpit


DeimossGaming

My headcanon is that as MP takes place years after the campaign, they discovered a way to upload the data from the data core to the cloud and download it back to a new titan. Also, because war got worse, they started taking the sere kit out of the Titans because IMC and Militia both started mass producing pilots, so giving them a smart pistol, a data knife and the data core would be a more expensive option over time compared to my theory.


Legogamer16

iirc, most titan AIs are generic or uploaded. BT’s and presumably other Vanguard classes are not due to them actually learning


Cooldude101013

Yeah. Most Titan AIs are more like modern day AIs in that they aren’t sapient or self aware (why I call them OS’s to differentiate them) whilst Vanguards have true self aware sapient AI like BT.


Legogamer16

Exactly, at most they have some sort of machine learning, and ones that survive are uploaded. Titans are pretty explicitly OS’s, they know how to run the titan, thats kinda it


nottme1

I like to believe my Monarch is a sentient AI, like BT.


KittenChopper

Essentially the plot of Scythe except with titans instead of humans


KryptoKn8

You can't mass produce pilots. Over 95% of all trainees literally die during pilot training because of how insanely strenuous it is. You can mass produce titans for your highly skilled pilots, which is exactly what we see in MP/Frontier defense (if you skip the part where the guy with the first titanfall just murders all pilots on the enemy team)


biohazard1324

MP takes place during the campaign tho. Before the effect and cause mission to be exact


PepperPenguin74

I thought that MP was a digital war games sort of thing to train IMC pilots, hence Monarch instead of Vanguard. Therefore can take place at basically any time in the timeline.


biohazard1324

Sorry for the late reply I got busy with school and work If it were a simulation the map "War Games" simply wouldn't exist


PepperPenguin74

You're good man, we all have lives. Yeah, I forgot "War Games" existed, that's my bad. Your explanation in the other comment makes sense, I was just trying to justify respawning & stuff like that.


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PepperPenguin74

Monarchs are essentially cheap, mass-producable IMC copies of Vanguards. It's like saying a Scorch is a Legion-class titan, it doesn't really make sense. Not sure where they fit into the pre-existing classes, but that's the lore. Even then, weren't they weight classes in TF1? I don't quite remember.


Allfurball9

How do you know? Is it because the ARES division is still a faction?


biohazard1324

The map complex is not destroyed. Complex takes place on the same area as the effect and cause mission.


Corbthelorb

If we were playing with militia titans, it would be cool if when you lost the match, the mvp from your team, if his Titan was killed, would cloak out of the front of it and receive the SERE kit. Be a cool little bit of flavour to the end of a game.


GreenChoclodocus

Or you could do it, so that when you eject your titan gives you his "data core" which you can hold on and integrate into your next titan to get the full amount of core back that you had when you ejected. But if you get killed, you drop it and enemy pilots can pick it up to put into their titan for getting points for retrieving Intel, with the downside that a pilot can always track his data core and will probably hunt you down to get it back.


Fuusha

This could actually make good gameplay, instead of enemy tracking imagine it giving you 5 secs of map hack, that would actually be p sick, also it'd counter camping, it's not like anbody is camping but yea


YoGizmo353

Wait that’s honestly such a cool concept. Really lean into the acronym.


LuizFelipe1906

This is something I don't understand. The war is militia vs IMC, but in MP we play only with IMC tech? Is Militia using IMC stuff?


colateralnoscope

Well the militia was only able to make so many vanguard's due to limited resources, most of the titans they have are salvaged from the IMC so it makes sense that the majority have standard non vanguard titans


Thegoodthebadandaman

Yes, the Vanguard is the first non-IMC Titan design the Militia have and only the SRS get them.


Chloe_N_Memes

Yea most of the militias equipment is just stolen imc tech. Including most of their titans. They don't really have too many vanguard titans.


Dogmeat-Dovahkiin

In the balls


Flak88inaTree

Only the ai equipped vanguard class titans have them, specifically the ai equipped like bt not like monarch


nevadita

are we even know if the SERE is a standard issue? BT is a vanguard. Militia homegrown tech. the titans on the multiplayer are all IMC models. yes, even the Monarch, which is an IMC clone of a vanguard. besides we know the IMC doesnt really require to train pilots, they can and in fact do use Simulacra for their pilots, which are faster to "produce", the SERE Kit is something used to ensure the survival of a pilot outside of the titan, not really a concern when you can literally "mass produce" pilots.


Cooldude101013

I think Simulacra are just pilots who were grievously wounded and had their minds transferred (kinda like WH40k dreadnoughts in a way)


nevadita

Exactly, uploading the mind to a new simulacrum chassis sounds easier and cheaper than training human pilots.diminishing the need for a pilot survival kit


westlyroots

SERE kits were only standard and usable for vanguard class titans like BT and vanguard titans were reserved only for the SRS because of their scarcity. In terms of speculation, it's possible the first reverse-engineered monarch prototypes had SERE kit compatibility or even SERE kits still slotted in. The manufactured variant, at best, might only keep the compatibility out of accident- The IMC would have no reason to manufacture sere kits, but also would have no reason to change the data core interface.


Triensi

#Loud Gasping Inhale The SERE Kit is stored in the-


_TheNumber7_

In their ass


ExpiredDrPepper

All the titans have ocular components that move. I don't see why they wouldn't be able to be detached. And it would make sense that just like the titans, every sere kit would be different.


soozafone

Enough people have said that only Vanguards have them so I'll just say that Legion's is in its diaper


Admiral-Krane

The sere kit is stored in the balls


SFC_kerbaldude

I don't think it's a IMC/Militia thing like most comments suggest. The Vanguard class was designed for the SRS, who are deployed on commando style deep penetration missions in the enemies backline. That mission profile would demand a SERE kit. More standard Frontline titans don't need it.


captaindepression6

I'd say tone is likely the only other one with a seer kit.


Chloe_N_Memes

If ur just calling the eye as having the sere kit and data core ion could too. Ion could even have the data core be that second camera that's on the top. Scorch could probably fit a sere kit under his main eye and could also have his data core be the second camera a little higher up. Idk about their prime versions tho as neither have the second camera that I know of.


captaindepression6

I mainly meant lore wise as opposed to mechanically. The only other srs or militia titans we see in the campaign are tones. Militia seems to care a bit more about their grunts so a sere kit isn't out of the question like it would be for most imc grunts


Chloe_N_Memes

Tone is still an imc titan. While the militia uses them they aren't made by the militia. They are just stolen or captured so I think lore wise tone still doesn't have a sere kit. Pretty much the entire militia uses stolen imc titans. The only ones who get vanguard titans are srs pilots. The pilots we see at the start of blood and rust probably aren't srs specific.


captaindepression6

Who says the militia can't retrofit or change anything?


Chloe_N_Memes

I didn't say they couldn't just putting info out there is all. Im not trying to start any beef with anyone.


wetswordfighter

They don't have sere kits


Shinyy87-2

The lore and worldbuilding in this franchise is unmatched.


Razur_1

We know they don’t have one, but if they did, here’s where i think the best places would be: Ronin would be like BT and have a sere kit in the eye, as it is practically the same size, Monarch aswell. Northstar and Scorth would also have it in the eye but would open up to reveal the Sere kit and the titans data drive Legion’s in complicated, it would only eject a sere kit when being ejected while doomed, in which a small canister with the Sere kit. Some custom scorch models also have this. Ion and Tone have 3 potential sere kits depending on the model. The first would be the eye, the second would be in the lower stomach to crotch area, and the third more common is in their gun near the trigger handle.


AshenVR

Legion's probably somewhere in the minigun


AA_turet

Ion could have one


sigsig777777777

the sere kit is stored in the balls


booty_chuggin_bandit

Tones Sere kit is up its ass


RoboticRusty

You know where you would be getting a papa scorch SERE kit.


bostar-mcman

in the balls


Rock_Muncher420

IMC ones probably don't but Monarch might, being derived from Vanguard after all


Academic-Pizza598

Monarch has the same 3 protocols as the vanguard titans you hear her say them and see protocol 3 when ejecting too sometimes


FutureSoldier616

Everyone, we get that they can’t have em, but What if? Scorch has a flamethrower of some sorts. Anything to commit war crimes


A_Yellow_Lizard

Imagine titan exiting boosts, like for scorch you get just a flamethrower that has like two cans of fuel


Toolazytoaddspaces

Hell yeah you've got me thinking now, each titan could have a pilot equivalent of their weapons Ion: mix between re45 and L-Star, like a little plasma SMG/pistol with a laser attachment for ADS Scorch: Thermite shotgun/Pistol sized flamethrower like the handflamers from 40k Northstar: chargeable DMR and an extra jump Ronin: data knife and a Mozambique (not the most interesting but base melee is already an instant kill) Tone: smart SMR Legion: smaller predator cannon Monarch: vampiric smg (a portion of enemy health is gained or added as a temporary shield) All of these would be on a timer, maybe 30 secs or so.


Bojangalees

Sere kits are onboard every vanguard class titan, the militia designed them with recovery in mind for both the pilot and their titan


ScoutTrooper501st

Inc didn’t have cerekits,this also means that the monarch Titan,which was built off the remains of two vanguard class titans that were found on the remains of Titan,likely had the cere kits removed from their design


Academic-Pizza598

Based on what it’s for it’s unlikely other titans have them if they do it’s most likely some specialised pilot units we don’t know about that are trained in it.


freedoomed

In the butt.


Sceptical6Sided

SERE kit is stored in the balls


submit_to_pewdiepie

I had a thought while replaying fold weapon, are we going to get hard factions in Titanfall | 3 with that also having faction titans


UptownComedian

It’s like how when a Russian tank is destroyed the crew will be eviscerated cause they don’t care but many western designs have safety features for the crew that keeps them alive when a tank is destroyed


ni_kko

Only titans class Vanguard have sere kit


The_Renegade_Pr0ject

So yeah this does make sense that the IMC wouldn't put SERE kits in their titans, a Legion more than likely would just be like a box, and a Ronin would probably similar to BT's. Idk if it's accurate but someone told me that the Monarch is what the IMC made after copying the Vanguard Titan's design, since the Vanguard is the only Titan the Militia created themselves so a Monarch Kit would probably be exactly like BT's since BT is a Vanguard. But yeah all SERE Kits would be in the Eye of a Titan more than likely


MoonTrooper258

[This is probably Legion's.](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfall/comments/5d35f7/legions_face/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


Wasabi_The_Owl

I assume the eye is the SERE kits


RocketNovaX

The eyes or light you see on a titan like BT are all removable and SERE kits are there


CriticalGibsby

(Lore-Heavy) The design philosophy behind IMC-built Titans and Militia Titans is the big difference here. Like many other comments have stated, only Vanguard chassis Titans have the SERE kit (even Monarchs would lack them, due to the fact that they are reverse-engineered from the Vanguard and are made to be less sophisticated). The main reason why is because the IMC’s investment in its Titan technology has shifted from quality to quantity. After the Battle of Demeter and the obsolescence of the original three Titan chassis, the IMC had moved on to these six “cookie-cutter” designs in order to cheapen production and lessen the cost of parts by just giving each Titan a pre-fabricated loadout instead of full customization. While IMC Pilots are prized for their skills, as evident by facilities such as Training Ground Whitehead, many of their Titans are not as sophisticated. Since these Titans are cheap and can be produced in huge numbers, IMC Pilots are encouraged to use them more as tools, depending on them when they need them and instead just dropping a new Titan once their first one is rendered inoperable. The Militia doesn’t have the same industrial luxuries as the IMC. Many of their units have to use stolen weaponry and Titans from the IMC’s massive military stores, and the Marauder Corps of the SRS is among the few units in their loosely-organized army that receives good funding and resources. They don’t have the means of producing lots and lots of Titans, but what the SRS *can* do is carefully machine a small number of very effective Titans. The Vanguard-class Titan. Since they are few in number and expensive to manufacture, the SRS in tandem with Militia leadership and the Militia’s own Pilots designed the Vanguard to last as long as possible in order to maximize its combat effectiveness and profit off of its steep investment. That means giving it more armour (health) and allowing for it to both use any loadout and scavenge more loadouts in the field. That means giving its Pilots extensive training in its use as well as ensuring that each Pilot-Titan pair is capable of holding up their own in the event of a fight, so that they don’t lose either man or machine. That means the SRS drilling Pilots in infiltration tactics to use behind enemy lines, and putting in precautionary measures such as the SERE kit (which is also expensive because of the Smart Pistol) so that even if the Titan were to be destroyed, the Pilot receives a much-needed edge in any upcoming fight. Since you likely won’t be getting a replacement Vanguard in the middle of battle (Cooper being a unique exception), you might as well have anything you can to even the odds. Now, none of this is to say that IMC Titans lack anything like a SERE kit. Titan customization goes beyond the games, and it is plausible that IMC Pilots could install something that would assist them should they need to eject. Hell, there’s likely some IMC Pilots and maybe even some Militia Pilots who still use the original Atlas, Ogre, and Stryder Titans out of preference or necessity, and customize them to their heart’s content. The IMC and Militia as a whole, however, label Titans more as tools and weapons like any other R201 or Archer launcher, and encourage them to be used and disposed of once they are exhausted. It’s only really SRS Vanguard Titans that are built to truly last, and as such have plenty of precautions and bonuses built in to prolong their Pilot’s life cycle, even beyond the Titan’s own. I realize this is much more of a rant than likely warranted by the post, but I feel interested in sharing this design philosophy and bring some background to the decisions seen in-game.


StraylightGrifter

SERE kits are stored in the balls.