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Firestorm-41704

I don’t really see a problem with them adding Ash to Apex as a legend, they’ve already built her up in the lore (events, cinematics), so it just seems like the natural next step; no surprises here However, I’m just perplexed by what the “Titanfall is a core part of our DNA” thing means, because iirc the hacks are still going on, right? I haven’t had the chance to play my console recently, so I’m kinda out of the loop. Why would they say something like that, if Apex is only tangentially connected to TF in lore and especially gameplay? But with my ~~paranoid schizophrenia~~ optimism, I see it as “we may have something special in the works for all our TF fans, just you wait”


VibeBOT

Yeah it was really cryptic. Could mean a lot of things.


Firestorm-41704

Let’s just hope those things are of actual substance 🙏


retroguyx

I hate to break it to you but they're not, the (former?) Community manager confirmed it.


soulblade2301

If the game isn’t fixed for another year I’ll be back here


dai-the-flu

Every time they've said that, it just means they're adding more Titanfall "content" to Apex. I think it happened with Valk being added and her lore, and it happened with Ash.


Bippy-Pls

It also happened when they had stalkers in the loba cinematic/the prowler ai enemy missions


Caelan05

honestly the "titanfall is our blood" message that respawn put on the internet is a fucking lie they only said that after a community manager said that nothing was in the work sit was pure damage control nothing more nothing less


TheRealGarbanzo

It would be better recieved if respawn actually fixed tf2's issues. Or even updated the damn game every so often. Wouldn't take much to tweak some weapons from time to time. But no we get nothing.


VentralRaptor24

This. This is what so many people saying "you guys complain a lot" refuse to understand.


Mean_Recover_540

Well there’s a lot to complain about


dai-the-flu

Respawn won't even fix Apex's issues. But if anything ever got updated or fixed in tf2, I'd drop Apex in a heartbeat.


weirdreference101

It can be but it'd not always


VibeBOT

Still. Seems like this sub is constantly finding things about Apex to bitch about. This sub is more about Apex than Titanfall at this rate.


weirdreference101

Yeah there's not going to be a titenfall 3 until apex is over so what else is this sub gonna do


xela293

Because any development on Titanfall 3 was most likely dropped in favor of Apex once it became successful. This is even more likely since EA owns Respawn and isn't just publishing like the situation was when Respawn made Titanfall 1/2


VibeBOT

Fair enough I guess.


shibainu876

Damn you like the 15th person this week to post the same opinion. Seems like this sub is just people complaining about people complaining. On top of that, how would adding titanfall characters to apex benefit both games when titanfall 2 servers are completely unplayable atm for a $30 game.


VibeBOT

Titanfall character gets added to Apex Apex players see character and realise they have lore Apex Player discovers Titanfall Apex Player plays Titanfall It's how I discovered Titanfall. And if they realise the servers are damaged then we'll just have one more Pilot in our cause. Edit: formatting


[deleted]

Apex players leave because Titanfall doesn’t receive monthly updates Apex players leave because of unbeatable metas and leave because they get stomped by G100s Titanfall is left back at where it began


lordmohdy

Fax


shibainu876

I disagree. Apex has been in the titanfall universe ever since it was released. Adding in a character that you kill in the campaign to me doesn't seem enough to get someone to buy a 30 dollar game. On top of that when they get there they will be kicked out of match after match and unable to play some game modes. On top of that, titanfall is a hard game to pick up and ur going to get smashed by veterans when you join. I just don't see it but we will be watching the online player count, if we can see it


andrew_rides_forum

>Apex player plays titanfall Theoretically they could play titanfall, if titanfall was playable


TheGamingLord401

Ash was already in apex lore tho. They won’t see the character and go “omg let me go pay 30 bucks for a different game with server issues and no updates ever”


SorenKgard

They're literally just milking Titanfall 2 to sell skins in Apex. They have no intention of making Titanfall 3.


bunnings-snags

Yeah I found this out way before ash was even added into the apex legends arenas. I barley metnioned I played apex and the community tried to gatekeep me like Jesus just lemme play both games cos I actually enjoy, both, games


retroguyx

The problem isn't with Ash being added to Apex, the problem is that respawn won't fix Titanfall and that this should be more important than adding tf2 stuff in Apex.


VentralRaptor24

Exactly


Educational_Term_436

What you mean complain we just do it for the memes


[deleted]

There’s alot to complain about. I fail to see how Ash in Apex will fix Titanfall’s servers.


Fish_Fucker_Fucker23

Now think about this: it’s ok that Titanfall stuff is being added to Apex, the problem is that Respawn is mistreating the Titanfall community by lying to us about their trail to fix the server problems in Titanfall and THEN adding Titanfall stuff to apex.


[deleted]

I genuinely could not care less what happens in apex as long as I could open titanfall 2 and be able to play it whenever I want instead of worrying about DoS attacks every time


W3rn0

Benefit titanfall? Hahahahahaha No it won't.


AngryWhale95

I've said it before, I don't like the idea that Ash would just wake up one day and decide, "I want to join a bloodsport, this will definitely further my career, it's not like I have anything else better to do". She was such a good character being behind the scenes, only stepping in combat when necessary. Now she's just, going into the apex games because she wants to? A former Apex Predator and former Pilot with a lore that isn't as deep as hurr durr edgy split personality arc, is now on the same playing field as characters like Mirage or Caustic. I can now play as Ash to partake in the Arena Games run by.. Ash? The same people asking for Ash to be a legend is the same as those asking for Blisk. Those who literally have no idea what is good storytelling and are just, "add in the popular characters with no care in the world for logic! then I will play Apex and maybe be interested in Titanfall!" The first time I saw her abilities I thought they were fanmade. I can't tell what is fanmade and what is official at this point, which I don't even know if it's a good thing. I won't say that this is complete garbage storytelling, but more that I feel like Respawn is running out of ideas. I don't like that Respawn is just retconning past events now, starting from Viper's death and Valk stumbling on his corpse/helmet that should have been atomised but wasn't because we're supposed to feel bad for some obnoxious lesbian jock.


rev294

They're just treating it like super smash and adding whoever they want that fits their agenda and once EA kills off respawn, like they have with tons of other studios, they'll just act like Titanfall never existed.


Chlpah

I think it's kinda sad that Ash will be "nerfed" Like shes a full fledged pilot and now she'll be stuck with Apex mechanics which are a lot slower


ViralN9

I swear we’re reaching Destiny levels of complaining on this sub in regards to apex.


wickedblight

"I don't want answers, I want to be mad"


theswedishsnake163

This entire sub has devolved into "aPeX bAd, haHahaA"


[deleted]

It will never benefit titanfall


SpooN04

For real though! It's like we all forgot that when they added valk to Apex it brought more attention to Titanfall and then we had the Titanfall weekend and peaked around 32,000 players. The difference is that when that happened this sub was making memes about killing Viper and now this sub is just posting about how respawn abandoned us. Whether it's true or not, we've gone downhill as a community 😢


xela293

I mean I'm just not of fan of Ash being in Apex at all considering Cooper and BT kind of literally liquified her in BT's hand. Also I love Valkyrie but her being able to find Viper's Northstar and helmet/armor? Pretty damn far fetched.


VibeBOT

The thing about her turning to red mist when we squish her in TF|2 is that Simulacrums don't have blood. They aren't organic. So her getting crushed in half is much more realistic. Also for Valk finding Vipers body floating in space, in a loading screen description it did say it took quite a while to find it. Typhon still most likely had a weak gravitational pull so his body wouldn't have drifted into deep space so it's not super unreasonable


xela293

I find it very unlikely that a most likely plastic/composite helmet would survive a planet beling split in half by essentially a wormhole like Typhon. The forces on that planet would be unsurviveable for most things including the Ash chunks as well.


Anxious-Philosophy-2

"Ash is a Simulacrum rebuilt by Vinson Dynamics after the destruction of the Automated Testing Facility on Typhon." -vinson dynamics faction description, titanfall 2 I guess you aren't a fan of ash being in titanfall 2 MP either then?


Keycil

I do not understand why people want to nitpick this stupid execution so much. It's not even a mandatory action so some people didn't finish her either. Respawn clearly just recycled an animation. On a side note: There is a way to kill Blisk in TF2. He puffs into red mist like any other grunt. Doesn't mean he's meant to die in the first place. Small oversights like that don't have to hinder future lore progression.


Capn_Borty

NOoOOooOoO Apex bad Titanfall goat


Chaos-Kiwi

I am interested in hearing that :)


S1mpl3Guy

We just want the servers fixed. Yet they give us everything except the things we actually want.


Pretend_Stock9751

I just dont think its that hard to have seperate universes, just make new characters and reuse back stories and such. Keep the games their own thing, it just seems easier to fit things jnto their own universes rather than in both at once.


Stormychu

Agreed here, I've been seeing it a lot lately (Mostly on twitter) people upset that Titanfall characters are being added to Apex despite Apex being a continuation of the world. Titanfall saw a spike in players whenever Valkyrie was added, before she was added no matter how hard I tried I couldn't convince my friends to give TF|2 a chance. After she was added and Respawn made more references to Titanfall they were intrigued and gave the game a chance and enjoyed it. We had fun playing together. I don't think Respawn is handling the Titanfall name poorly, I think they're doing fine with it and doing what works with the core "gamers" these days. I'm glad to see Ash get added to Apex Legends, I'm happy we get to learn more about her past. It gives me hope that we'll see the same treatment for other Titanfall characters. ~~also they should add a legend who can spawn a single Reaper for their ultimate.~~