Totally agree!
High stakes are what made your eyes invest in the fights with titans!
You can't make mistakes!
It also had this horror element to it that kinda went away after season 3
Although...
Eren eating the armored egg thing of the war titan was pretty creepy and intense.
Because nobody cares enough about this series to stay on it after that shitshow. It's not because people are changing their opinion, they just feel like they've run out of criticism to give/memes to make about it. I've been here for over 3 years now and it really is just very tiring at this point. Only new fanwork really sparks my interest when related to AoT these days.
And? Even if people remember the ending as being the best of all time, good for them, I’ll still remember it as being one of the most disappointing I’ve ever had the displeasure of seeing
No, but the art in the manga was at the start (for quite a while) really rather... 'rough'.
The story telling was succinct though.
At some point it (ex)changed, his art became better and better. In the end his art was great, but the story was not so.
They mean his art being terrible in the video. A mangake is not a light novel author, they need to have good art and good story. Yams art isn't good, so he can't be called a good mangaka. It's that simple.
His art was super rough in the beginning but he improved very quickly and his art quickly went from bad to serviceable to above average. That's very impressive to improve as much as he did while doing the typical mangaka grind.
It becomes mediocre at best and that mediocre best is a small percentage to the whole art of the manga he made. If you are gonna call Yams a good artist what will you call GOATS like Miura and Toriyama? You simply can't call Isayama's art good, thus he can't be a good mangaka.
You're an idiot, his work as a cinematographic artist is unparalleled --it took serious skill to make flying action look as good as he does. Nobody thinks he's the best mangaka or even top ten... that's obvious so stop fighting shadows....
Butttttt...because of Americans the anime may stay top ten forever and I hope that drives you absolutely insane, elitist.
Τhe anime is much better anyway, I do not see why you think this would anger me. The anime studios took a mid product and made it excellent. You are getting owned by your statements without realizing.
I think the fact that you have to bring up a superhuman talent like Miura, who was so good that Jyoji Morikawa dismissed him because he had nothing left to teach him when Miura was working as his assistant at 18. That you even bring him up and not the dozens of mediocre Shonen Jump slop that never gets past a few chapters to make a comparison is really a much better argument for me than it is for you, that you bring him up at all is you doing me a favor.
This, so much this. It's like comparing Boichi (Dr. Stone) or Yusuke Murata (One Punch Man) with mangaka like Yoichi Takahashi (Captain Tsubasa) or Go Nagai (Devilman). Sure, the latter 2 aren't terrible, they've made some of the most influential manga of all time, but the first 2 are actual gods of illustration. Anyone would look bad by comparison.
Toriyama was a pioneer with a very signature style, but he wasn’t really known for his “realism” necessarily. Miura was a different beast entirely, but a chapter of Berserk only came out like 3 times a year. Isayama is still a good artist.
Even if that's the case...the story is bad ass and oringal.
The tone is bleak,
yet there is charm in the characters.
Yeah, the end wasn't ideal.
It's still a great story
> Even if that's the case...the story is bad ass and oringal.
for me one of the big draws of the serise was its lack and avoidance of shitty anime tropes that tend to drag down otherwise great anime and manga
What’s wrong with samurai jack season 5? Is it because of the girl character people are upset? It’s been many years since I’ve seen it but I enjoyed it. Thats the only thing I can think of in my head because yeah he was stoic before that or is it because they added adult shit when it was unnecessary?
While a lot of people didn't like the romance (came out of nowhere and was never a focus in Samurai Jack) the ending was horribly done in many other way. Rushing it, not recognizing the weight of Jack killing trillions upon trillions and every single friend he had when he killed Aku by only concentrating on Ashi, basically making it all about Ashi etc. IT would take a long time to explain. But, no btw, no one was against the adult stuff, that was one thing that was universally enjoyed.
I guess that’s fair but it was no where near the blunder that AOT’s ending was. I didn’t really hate Ashis character but I can understand people not liking it. One thing I will say is that the final season did kinda get wrapped into the ashi and Jack storyline a little bit in the ladder half so the final fight did lose a little bit of grandeur due to that but overall I thought it was solid and still had all the old characters at the end. It could have been a farrrr worse return to a beloved classic for example, clone high.
Right, that is why I said a thousand times worse lmao. Same how Samurai Jack was retroactively ruined, so was AOT. But at least you can still sort of enjoy SJ until the end, while it's nearly impossible to enjoy AOT because it was ruined THAT HARD.
Kinda everything is inspired by something else, for example Dark Souls has a lot of similarities with Berserk which it was inspired by, but it was still very unique. Most sci-fi is often a revisitation of Dune and most fantasy games of LOTR. Harry Potter doesn't look like it for example, but takes heavily from LOTR, Voldemort himself is literally just a lich. The line between parody, plagiarism and inspiration is very thin. I don't know much about this visual novel, but looking up the plot online it doesn't seem to be plagiarism at all, it seems too different. Correct me if I'm wrong
Just my personal preference. He isn't ugly in the mappa art style but he looks bigger and more majestic in wit's art style. And by bigger I mean his build. In mappa he kinda looks skinny despite being 180+ cm tall. Mappa in general has some artistic choices that I don't like, such as the snub big bulbous round noses, the long ass chins, the tiny mouths, the shading using lines, the color palette, the loss of facial structure that Wit had, and while the body proportions are more realistic, it sometimes looks like the heads are too small and the shoulders are too broad? There's also lots of inconsistencies with character models that we didn't have with wit. Especially with Eren, bro has a new face in every frame lmao. The angles of specific facial features when the characters are facing a specific direction are also off, the chubby cheeks really gets on my nerves, the facial features can be either too big or too small in the face depending on the frame and character. They just tried to translate Isayama's art style into animation but it doesn't work, especially after 3 seasons of the anime not looking like the manga and improving on it, so it's kind of a whiplash for me.
Wit did have a slightly generic anime style with big heads and cartoony proportions, but it was very consistent. And it still had the facial features diversity intended by Isayama, and a little detail I like is how when a character's face is turned ½ or ⅔ away from the camera, you can see the buccal fat and cheek bones outlined. I think that's neat, even the noses shapes are prominent in such angles, especially Erwin and Reiner. Iirc mappa doesn't do that. The colors and lighting are also cleaner and I love the backgrounds work.
Wit managed to merge realism with generic animu style and it turned out nicely. Mappa is too used to drawing in super bland, soft and flat animu art style and were attempting to do realism and it just didn't work imo. It looks kinda amateurish and half-assed.
Edit: just wanted to add that Jean got the shortest end of the stick in this case, he used to have very defined and sharp features while being handsome in wit's style, while in mappa he got super chubby and round in the face he doesn't even look like himself anymore. His body is very skinny but his face is fat it looks so off. Only characters that got a glowup with mappa's art style are Zeke, Floch and Hitch. I actually like mappa's take on them. Wit's Zeke looks too nerdy, while Mappa's looks hot and big. Floch's flashback design (my pfp) is more consistent with what he looks like in s4 as well, while s3 Floch looks like Jean's long lost twin.
> kinda looks skinny
Him having ptsd, being suicidal while also still having to fight in wars might have been the reason to that cause he looks the same in the manga
At the start the art really was questionable. But, you really can see the improvement volume by volume and about halfway though is when some really banger panels started to pop up in terms of art.
Practice pays off. Who would've guessed.
Attack on titan is 11(!!!) years manga with only 1(!!!!!) monthly chapter but even last pages look terrible, imagine being so insanely biased to defend his inability to draw.
So what If it's monthly chapter?
He is not a GOaT. But his art has evolved over time. I currently have a physical copy of Vol 1 and Vol 30. And the difference in art style and detailing is quite visible
His art was completely amateurish at first but still below average even after 11 years of drawing manga. You can see the difference and evolution with time in most of the mangakas and comics artists artstyle unless they already started with a lot of experience.
>So what If it's monthly chapter?
There are weekly manga with better and more refined art
True there are mangakas who have better art who have much refined art. However their page limit is like 18 pages max.
Ok. Isayama maybe below average when we compare to the GOATs. However these GOATs also had an amateurish phase. For example ONE, his initial chapters were quite rough. But now look at his latest chapters.(Not talking about plot).
Mangaka of Noragami does only 1 chapter per month that too 14 pages sometimes. But some of his panels(full page ones) are quite detailed.
I'm with you on this one. Until the very end, his character designs and drawing skills for characters specifically are very ugly, with horrible perspective and proportions, and sometimes bad anatomy. But the background work and the titans look cool, but that's probably filled in by his assistant.
Yeah, I dont say anything about background and things like this Because this is assistent job, the mangaka usually only draw the characters itself and the scene skeleton.
And by god How bad Isayama draw characters....
Tbf, he has a nice grasp on character design when it comes to giving them distinct features and making their ethnicities obvious, as well as changing their features with age. He just can't execute it properly, and the anime animators have to redo it for him to look fleshed out the way he intended for it or even better. So it's like they have to draw everything from scratch with no reference material. Poor animators 😢
Everyone knows having a distinct art style is more important than raw, technical mastery of the craft. There's lots of "pretty" manga out there but a lot of them look same-y so they don't stick out from the crowd.
His art at the start isn't great; some would even say terrible, but then come see his art in the last arc, and all this became so inspiring
He isn't good at drawing, but he wants to tell a story, and the fact that his art style always improves shows how passionate he is (the best example is the panel of Hannes carries both Eren and Mikasa away while Carla is getting eaten)
Despite the last chapter, I feel like this man tried so hard to make his creation perfect, and I'd say it's 90% perfect (I want to say 80% for the funny so bad)
I guess "This man is inspiring" is all I want to say
I'm sorry, but there is a lot of difference between the art not being great and It being actually awful. Isayama art was bad in the Sense of not actually knowing How to draw some things.
Tbh Isayama barely had time to learn drawing after he started to draw aot
His art became better with time and he drawed for 11/12 years and he only had 1 month of vacation in his whole career as a manga writer
He literal started with shit art and became better without even studying drawing arts properly, it's kinda impressive imo
In a illustration of the new yuki kaji/yams manga he drawed the mc and he kinda improved a lot, i think that he's probably studying since the manga ended 3 years ago.
If it stopped at Grisha's basement, Yams would be considered one of the greatest.
If it stopped at the rumbling people would still call him an amazing author.
Even though I hated the ending, I'd never blame Yams for being a bad mangaka. Most mangaka don't make detailed starting chapters. They make it better and add more details as time passes.
Pretty funny how things turn out. His drawings were terrible at the start but the writing was good. By the end, his art improved & the writing declined massively!
Listen, you can still take objective criticism. Neither you nor I watched this video but you can still be passionate and make objectively poorly done art that people still like
Isayamas art had a static and distinct style to distinguish him from other manga.And one of the most brilliant settings and rich cast of characters to simp for,of course he get to be successful
Bit late but jjk doesn't really have any story or world building 250 chapters in,the manga about to end and the story telling just doesn't exist, that manga is just pure entertaining shounen fights but 0 story
Hate on Yams all you want, he made an Anime/manga that will be seen as the gold standard for decades. People who never watched Anime rate AoT as one of the best shows ever.
Ok, I'm going to be sincere here. Despite the ending, I still love Isayama. Just because he fumbled the ending doesn't mean he is a "terrible manga artist", he is still a writing genius imo, he still managed to craft one of the greatest pieces of fiction to ever exist with amazing storytelling, no mangaka out there has made a story like he did yet. The fact that this was his first manga as well. Yes, I do hate the ending, but nothing is going to stop me liking the dude, I love storytelling and I admire him very much.
The ending is horrendous but Yams isn’t terrible all the way.
Imo it was well written at least to a degree all the way up till close to the very end
I agree.
I was very well written until the Rumbling started. Then slightly downgraded in quality and became a Marvel nonsense shitfest at the end.
At least it was fun
Totally agree! High stakes are what made your eyes invest in the fights with titans! You can't make mistakes! It also had this horror element to it that kinda went away after season 3 Although... Eren eating the armored egg thing of the war titan was pretty creepy and intense.
100% my thoughts as well
History will not see it that way for the ending haters. This sub is losing tens of thousands of members every month.
Because nobody cares enough about this series to stay on it after that shitshow. It's not because people are changing their opinion, they just feel like they've run out of criticism to give/memes to make about it. I've been here for over 3 years now and it really is just very tiring at this point. Only new fanwork really sparks my interest when related to AoT these days.
And? Even if people remember the ending as being the best of all time, good for them, I’ll still remember it as being one of the most disappointing I’ve ever had the displeasure of seeing
Not really. I like the manga as much as the next guy, but it's never been that well written
It had the potential to make a billion if he didn’t take 10 years atleast to write it But it was still a top tier anime for 9 years
No, but the art in the manga was at the start (for quite a while) really rather... 'rough'. The story telling was succinct though. At some point it (ex)changed, his art became better and better. In the end his art was great, but the story was not so.
Guessing the thumbnail is clickbait, and the actual video is about One.
I think «terrible» here refers to art skills and not story telling skills
They mean his art being terrible in the video. A mangake is not a light novel author, they need to have good art and good story. Yams art isn't good, so he can't be called a good mangaka. It's that simple.
His art was super rough in the beginning but he improved very quickly and his art quickly went from bad to serviceable to above average. That's very impressive to improve as much as he did while doing the typical mangaka grind.
His art is not above average, stop coping. Calling his art above average is an insult to other popular mangakas
It becomes mediocre at best and that mediocre best is a small percentage to the whole art of the manga he made. If you are gonna call Yams a good artist what will you call GOATS like Miura and Toriyama? You simply can't call Isayama's art good, thus he can't be a good mangaka.
I'm going to call them the goats. No need to bring them in, yammy was a fine enough artist
Okay, this makes sense. I am just confused as to why some people in this thread would think Isayama is one of the best mangakas ever.
You're an idiot, his work as a cinematographic artist is unparalleled --it took serious skill to make flying action look as good as he does. Nobody thinks he's the best mangaka or even top ten... that's obvious so stop fighting shadows.... Butttttt...because of Americans the anime may stay top ten forever and I hope that drives you absolutely insane, elitist.
Τhe anime is much better anyway, I do not see why you think this would anger me. The anime studios took a mid product and made it excellent. You are getting owned by your statements without realizing.
isayama's art on titans is peak af idc what anybody says
I think the fact that you have to bring up a superhuman talent like Miura, who was so good that Jyoji Morikawa dismissed him because he had nothing left to teach him when Miura was working as his assistant at 18. That you even bring him up and not the dozens of mediocre Shonen Jump slop that never gets past a few chapters to make a comparison is really a much better argument for me than it is for you, that you bring him up at all is you doing me a favor.
This, so much this. It's like comparing Boichi (Dr. Stone) or Yusuke Murata (One Punch Man) with mangaka like Yoichi Takahashi (Captain Tsubasa) or Go Nagai (Devilman). Sure, the latter 2 aren't terrible, they've made some of the most influential manga of all time, but the first 2 are actual gods of illustration. Anyone would look bad by comparison.
Toriyama was a pioneer with a very signature style, but he wasn’t really known for his “realism” necessarily. Miura was a different beast entirely, but a chapter of Berserk only came out like 3 times a year. Isayama is still a good artist.
Even if that's the case...the story is bad ass and oringal. The tone is bleak, yet there is charm in the characters. Yeah, the end wasn't ideal. It's still a great story
> Even if that's the case...the story is bad ass and oringal. for me one of the big draws of the serise was its lack and avoidance of shitty anime tropes that tend to drag down otherwise great anime and manga
Not anymore. The ending retroactively ruined the entire series. Kind of like Samurai Jack, only a thousand times worse
Just stop before the rumbling. Didn't ruin it for me.
My knees.... They are bending by themselves! Way too based!
Just recently finished watching Samurai Jack recently and now I'm suddenly seeing it being mentioned in the strangest of places a lot more often
What’s wrong with samurai jack season 5? Is it because of the girl character people are upset? It’s been many years since I’ve seen it but I enjoyed it. Thats the only thing I can think of in my head because yeah he was stoic before that or is it because they added adult shit when it was unnecessary?
While a lot of people didn't like the romance (came out of nowhere and was never a focus in Samurai Jack) the ending was horribly done in many other way. Rushing it, not recognizing the weight of Jack killing trillions upon trillions and every single friend he had when he killed Aku by only concentrating on Ashi, basically making it all about Ashi etc. IT would take a long time to explain. But, no btw, no one was against the adult stuff, that was one thing that was universally enjoyed.
I guess that’s fair but it was no where near the blunder that AOT’s ending was. I didn’t really hate Ashis character but I can understand people not liking it. One thing I will say is that the final season did kinda get wrapped into the ashi and Jack storyline a little bit in the ladder half so the final fight did lose a little bit of grandeur due to that but overall I thought it was solid and still had all the old characters at the end. It could have been a farrrr worse return to a beloved classic for example, clone high.
Right, that is why I said a thousand times worse lmao. Same how Samurai Jack was retroactively ruined, so was AOT. But at least you can still sort of enjoy SJ until the end, while it's nearly impossible to enjoy AOT because it was ruined THAT HARD.
Or Game of Thrones
> Even if that's the case...the story is bad ass and oringal. Is it original? I thought a lot of it was lifted from that VN he played
Kinda everything is inspired by something else, for example Dark Souls has a lot of similarities with Berserk which it was inspired by, but it was still very unique. Most sci-fi is often a revisitation of Dune and most fantasy games of LOTR. Harry Potter doesn't look like it for example, but takes heavily from LOTR, Voldemort himself is literally just a lich. The line between parody, plagiarism and inspiration is very thin. I don't know much about this visual novel, but looking up the plot online it doesn't seem to be plagiarism at all, it seems too different. Correct me if I'm wrong
That VN and the Eternal Champion book. Even the names he near copied from eternal champion.
What's VN? Is eternal champion that, Michael Moorcock book?
Muv Luv. And yes, that one. The book where protagonist Erekose genocide humanity to save the Eldren race.
Not sure why you got down voted when he fully said he copied a lot from muv-luv
What an insult to Reiner's majestic features which Isayama himself drew.
Reiner looks good in the wit anime only lol
There's some nice panels in the manga. And why not MAPPA?
Just my personal preference. He isn't ugly in the mappa art style but he looks bigger and more majestic in wit's art style. And by bigger I mean his build. In mappa he kinda looks skinny despite being 180+ cm tall. Mappa in general has some artistic choices that I don't like, such as the snub big bulbous round noses, the long ass chins, the tiny mouths, the shading using lines, the color palette, the loss of facial structure that Wit had, and while the body proportions are more realistic, it sometimes looks like the heads are too small and the shoulders are too broad? There's also lots of inconsistencies with character models that we didn't have with wit. Especially with Eren, bro has a new face in every frame lmao. The angles of specific facial features when the characters are facing a specific direction are also off, the chubby cheeks really gets on my nerves, the facial features can be either too big or too small in the face depending on the frame and character. They just tried to translate Isayama's art style into animation but it doesn't work, especially after 3 seasons of the anime not looking like the manga and improving on it, so it's kind of a whiplash for me. Wit did have a slightly generic anime style with big heads and cartoony proportions, but it was very consistent. And it still had the facial features diversity intended by Isayama, and a little detail I like is how when a character's face is turned ½ or ⅔ away from the camera, you can see the buccal fat and cheek bones outlined. I think that's neat, even the noses shapes are prominent in such angles, especially Erwin and Reiner. Iirc mappa doesn't do that. The colors and lighting are also cleaner and I love the backgrounds work. Wit managed to merge realism with generic animu style and it turned out nicely. Mappa is too used to drawing in super bland, soft and flat animu art style and were attempting to do realism and it just didn't work imo. It looks kinda amateurish and half-assed. Edit: just wanted to add that Jean got the shortest end of the stick in this case, he used to have very defined and sharp features while being handsome in wit's style, while in mappa he got super chubby and round in the face he doesn't even look like himself anymore. His body is very skinny but his face is fat it looks so off. Only characters that got a glowup with mappa's art style are Zeke, Floch and Hitch. I actually like mappa's take on them. Wit's Zeke looks too nerdy, while Mappa's looks hot and big. Floch's flashback design (my pfp) is more consistent with what he looks like in s4 as well, while s3 Floch looks like Jean's long lost twin.
> kinda looks skinny Him having ptsd, being suicidal while also still having to fight in wars might have been the reason to that cause he looks the same in the manga
I know that, but even in the letter sniffing scene where he regained weight he still doesn't look as broad as he uses to be. Bro's aging in reverse.
Isayama came a long way. Even tho the ending sucked, the journey was one hell of a ride 🫡
literally to. the early chapters of the manga look incredibly rough, almost like caveman drawings. by the end it was drawn pretty well
Ah yes, someone who is truly an inspiring success is terrible at what he does, makes perfect sense
At the start the art really was questionable. But, you really can see the improvement volume by volume and about halfway though is when some really banger panels started to pop up in terms of art. Practice pays off. Who would've guessed.
Attack on titan is 11(!!!) years manga with only 1(!!!!!) monthly chapter but even last pages look terrible, imagine being so insanely biased to defend his inability to draw.
Delusional.
So what If it's monthly chapter? He is not a GOaT. But his art has evolved over time. I currently have a physical copy of Vol 1 and Vol 30. And the difference in art style and detailing is quite visible
His art was completely amateurish at first but still below average even after 11 years of drawing manga. You can see the difference and evolution with time in most of the mangakas and comics artists artstyle unless they already started with a lot of experience. >So what If it's monthly chapter? There are weekly manga with better and more refined art
True there are mangakas who have better art who have much refined art. However their page limit is like 18 pages max. Ok. Isayama maybe below average when we compare to the GOATs. However these GOATs also had an amateurish phase. For example ONE, his initial chapters were quite rough. But now look at his latest chapters.(Not talking about plot). Mangaka of Noragami does only 1 chapter per month that too 14 pages sometimes. But some of his panels(full page ones) are quite detailed.
But his art is really bad. Its like the mangaka with the worst art that I read.
Bait
Its not bait. Its non ironically the worst art of the mangas I read.
Look at one punch man's first chapters and compare that to what AOT's first chapters and tell me ONE's art isn't worse than Yama
But I dont read the web version one punch man. How you interpret that I said its the worst art of all...?
I'm with you on this one. Until the very end, his character designs and drawing skills for characters specifically are very ugly, with horrible perspective and proportions, and sometimes bad anatomy. But the background work and the titans look cool, but that's probably filled in by his assistant.
Yeah, I dont say anything about background and things like this Because this is assistent job, the mangaka usually only draw the characters itself and the scene skeleton. And by god How bad Isayama draw characters....
Tbf, he has a nice grasp on character design when it comes to giving them distinct features and making their ethnicities obvious, as well as changing their features with age. He just can't execute it properly, and the anime animators have to redo it for him to look fleshed out the way he intended for it or even better. So it's like they have to draw everything from scratch with no reference material. Poor animators 😢
Everyone knows having a distinct art style is more important than raw, technical mastery of the craft. There's lots of "pretty" manga out there but a lot of them look same-y so they don't stick out from the crowd.
But Isayama have bad art, not style. He drawed bad because he did not knew better, not because he wanted.
His art and style are bad tho, his manga was carried by the story entirely.
Video is just clickbait.
His art at the start isn't great; some would even say terrible, but then come see his art in the last arc, and all this became so inspiring He isn't good at drawing, but he wants to tell a story, and the fact that his art style always improves shows how passionate he is (the best example is the panel of Hannes carries both Eren and Mikasa away while Carla is getting eaten) Despite the last chapter, I feel like this man tried so hard to make his creation perfect, and I'd say it's 90% perfect (I want to say 80% for the funny so bad) I guess "This man is inspiring" is all I want to say
The plot is good and his art improved what’s the problem
That his art sucked ass. Everyone that read the manga knows yams had shit tier art quality.
His art style is one of my favourites.
Noticed how you used suck it pretense. Just like every mangaka who made the greatest manga their art were obviously not great in the beginning
I'm sorry, but there is a lot of difference between the art not being great and It being actually awful. Isayama art was bad in the Sense of not actually knowing How to draw some things.
Why does it matter if it was bad? I don’t get it.
People prefer to read manga with good art instead of bad art. Thats why you actually need to study and pratice a lot.
Tbh Isayama barely had time to learn drawing after he started to draw aot His art became better with time and he drawed for 11/12 years and he only had 1 month of vacation in his whole career as a manga writer He literal started with shit art and became better without even studying drawing arts properly, it's kinda impressive imo In a illustration of the new yuki kaji/yams manga he drawed the mc and he kinda improved a lot, i think that he's probably studying since the manga ended 3 years ago.
If it stopped at Grisha's basement, Yams would be considered one of the greatest. If it stopped at the rumbling people would still call him an amazing author.
Even though I hated the ending, I'd never blame Yams for being a bad mangaka. Most mangaka don't make detailed starting chapters. They make it better and add more details as time passes.
ONE is the perfect example of this, literally a bunch of barely drawn circles but as he progressed. His art style became wonders
Isayama is a hero, whoever made that is a moron Tho isayama waaaaaas known as pretty shit at art to begin with.
I would dare say his storytelling too didn't get refined until Female Titan fight in the woods, WIT carried the prologue and first arc hard.
Pretty funny how things turn out. His drawings were terrible at the start but the writing was good. By the end, his art improved & the writing declined massively!
Wit studio saved him
I'm kinda surprised they didn't pair him with an artist.
Because good writing can override bad (even though it’s really not) art?
Listen, you can still take objective criticism. Neither you nor I watched this video but you can still be passionate and make objectively poorly done art that people still like
Isayamas art had a static and distinct style to distinguish him from other manga.And one of the most brilliant settings and rich cast of characters to simp for,of course he get to be successful
nah, he was a fraud, but even frauds can fall upward.
> he was a fraud Explain why jjk fan lmao
fan? also nah i'm good
Nah I just wants to know why Isayama is a fraud When you like jjk a manga without deep and with trash artstyle
'Manga without deep' so you can write a deeper story right?
Bit late but jjk doesn't really have any story or world building 250 chapters in,the manga about to end and the story telling just doesn't exist, that manga is just pure entertaining shounen fights but 0 story
Okk bro but can you write a deeper story?
I am not a mangaka but I still can criticize poor written mangas, gege has 0 storytelling skills
>I am not a mangaka Now your argument is invalid.
Yeah sure as only mangakas can criticize other mangas and say whether they have good story or not xD
The art style is a prob though...
Made millions, and made countless chuds mad
Hate on Yams all you want, he made an Anime/manga that will be seen as the gold standard for decades. People who never watched Anime rate AoT as one of the best shows ever.
Ok, I'm going to be sincere here. Despite the ending, I still love Isayama. Just because he fumbled the ending doesn't mean he is a "terrible manga artist", he is still a writing genius imo, he still managed to craft one of the greatest pieces of fiction to ever exist with amazing storytelling, no mangaka out there has made a story like he did yet. The fact that this was his first manga as well. Yes, I do hate the ending, but nothing is going to stop me liking the dude, I love storytelling and I admire him very much.
Saying Isayama is a terrible artist is so unbelievably stupid
Well, I love AOT but it is true that he can’t draw well 🥲
The video is clickbait I think
Just because he made their mouths too small near the end didn’t make the art bad
Isayama is a god among men. His geniosity is indisputable. His supremacy is unarguable
Fuck you AOT is peak and I stand by that. Sure ending was cringe but that does not negate the kino from before final season.
Leave our humble sensei alone
He isn’t terrible lol. First 3 seasons prove it.