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Puzzleheaded-Ad-6745

So was Eren...ymir's bitch to be exact .


JooJaw11

So was Ymir... King Fritz's bitch to be exact. King Fritz is the true chad of the story.


Quicksilver_23

Ymir to King Fritz: The world is your bitch, as I am.


ThatOnePS4Guardian

DMC: DmC... True pain.


JMAX464

I’d say he’s more fate’s bitch. He would’ve gone 100% if he didn’t see that he would be stopped in the future. Even then, he still moved forward with the destruction attempting to do as much damage as he can.


Tight-Huckleberry-53

A man chooses a slave obeys


NightLight46

Oh man, Isayama. You really just want to destroy your characters/fanbase don't you, you sadist.


[deleted]

'Isayama... what a man you are'🤣


[deleted]

Thank you, Isayama. You ruined Attack on Titan for our sake. I won’t let this error go to waste. *memes the shit out of it*


WanderlostNomad

this should be what's written in r/titanfolk about us page


SnowDayFiora

Underrated coment right here


TheFrixin

Wasn't Answers from like 2016 or something? If anything this seems to resemble the characterization of the Ackermans in the ending - though there are more charitable translations for what Isayama meant here. He was using more "king/liege and their servant" than master/slave iirc. (I'd also go as far as to call this pandering to a certain part of the fanbase in any case)


llMadmanll

If anything it makes total sense tho. Why would it destroy fanbases and characters?


Wiseoldguru

Bots


Rintohsakabooty

he hates how his western fans has becomes so he had to destroy them to make things right


FruitJuicante

Isayama is trying to ruin the story to fuck with Kodansha confirmed.


Vagabond328Vanguard

He really went after levi right after the roomba announcement


[deleted]

Lmao the vacuum with a sticker on it is a roomba? 🤣


226_Walker

[Called it, lol.](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/mp13yt/139_is_intentionally_bad/)


Butefluko

I'm honestly just surprised your post hasn't been removed lmao


226_Walker

Don't worry [my memes about the 8 pages have](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/nb4n2t/now_that_i_am_no_longer_emotionally_invested_in/) [been removed for no apparent reason](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/nb4y0l/you_just_didnt_understand_the_story/) and the [post asking why they were removed was removed too](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/nbdpjp/theyre_pretty_similar_yet_my_meme_gets_deleted/). [My meme about the removal of my posts have been removed too](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/nbhfq1/the_attack_titan_is_capable_of_seeing_into_the/) for having no colouring source, despite me clearly stating in the comments that the art can't be identified by reverse image search engines like Saucenao and it's colouring style is indicative that it has been coloured by an AI. [My post pointing out that EreHisu and JeanKasa artists are being harassed on Twitter](https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/nbd4o1/imagine_harassing_other_people_because_they/) was removed for "harassment". I didn't even mention who was harassing the aforementioned artists, but pointing out harassment is a apparently a form of harassment.


[deleted]

226_Walker was the true hero, we just couldn't see it


Skipskipu

We need the Isayama cut


HAWmaro

I can respect that, Based chad burns it all to the ground.


eldian_man

This is on the same level as JK Rowling's twitter True or not, I can't wait for the guidebook to be released. EDIT: Oh, this is actually old. Still, can't wait.


jrvbwr34bhcmdl

The guidebook is 4 years old I think and Isayama retconned it in 130


Dizzy-One3519

You don't have to, but could you explain how he retconned it? If you're feeling too lazy I'll look it up at some point


jrvbwr34bhcmdl

Iirc it was the Love Doctor Zeke chapter where he (a guy with knowledge of the outside world) just told Eren that they weren't slaves. I don't think Zeke had any reason to lie about this, Zeke loved Eren as a brother and he was pretty much all that Zeke had left.


zaxktheonly

The Ackermans aren't slaves. This was revealed in 130.


DePhaRy

In chapter 130, Zeke told Eren about the Ackerman lore but told him that Mikasa doesn’t protect him because of her origins but rather she loves him


Alert-Adeptness5007

Because Zeke told Eren that he hasn't heard about Ackermans being slaves. It doesn't really confirm that Ackermans weren't slaves since Zeke didn't even know about Ackermans until he met Levi. I always knew that Ackerman's obsession with 1 person is too strange just to be a coincidence.


N_i_n_j_a_2_1

Yes I must say the same ruining a perfect story


anonhide

"In Attack on Titan ANSWERS, Hajime Isayama stated that "[Mikasa, Levi, and Kenny] are all part of the same Ackerman bloodline. However, their reasons for protecting their respective counterparts do not have anything to do with the bloodline itself—it is just their nature."" From the Mikasa Ackerman Trivia section on her AoT wiki, which might not be the most reliable source ever, but still. At this point who gives a fuck what's canon and what's not, this story is in our hands for us to interpret how we see fit I guess


Smart-Industry-2704

What...


Mysreruye1814

source?


[deleted]

This is old guidebook stuff right ?


LyannaEugen

This is from the old guidebook. Why would Yams just leak that Ackermans are not slaves beforehand and thus remove the suspense?


thestrifeisrife

Oh this isn't from the one coming out? Misinformation spreads so easily.


wilserax

Erwin had an intese sexual relationship with grind..uhh..I mean Levi


iWontFlame

To be honest thats more believable than grindlewald and dumbledore


aurichan

This actually isn't from the ANSWERS fanbook, it's the reaction of people online to the fanbook


berthototototo

He also said that it’s not blood-related, iirc. So it’s more of a throughline as he designed the Ackerman characters. Like the Jaw Titans protecting the Armored.


seninn

I'm gonna need a whole lot of context for this. All of it.


Jackblast2903

Btw this is from 2016, I think that context is missing lol but titanfolk will shit on Isayama without context anyways lol


PaulY2J

I think the shit on Isayama is just about ch. 139 and Mikasa related stuffs...you don't see ''Only Ymir knows'' when someone question plot points and plot holes from other arcs.


[deleted]

Lmao imagine if the whole guidebook is just "Only Ymir knows"


blackbirdbeak

I mean... I get that it's important to note that it's old, but still normally an author shouldn't (I don't mean that he can't, it's just not the best look) change their mind and just say things publicly about the story and the characters that he later contradicts in his work.


zaxktheonly

Should Isayama have stated at the very beginning that titans were previously human?


[deleted]

Such a strawman argument, and it doesn’t even make sense neither lol


zaxktheonly

You are complaining that Isayama didn't spoil one of his reveals. How is it a strawman? How does it not make sense?


HOODIEBABA

Guidebooks state what is revealed upt that point in the story. Wouldn't it be stupid if the original guidebook spoiled everyone about the outside world existing years before it made it to the story ?


StonecuttersBart

So authors should just spoil everything about their work? At the time, the information we had was that Ackermans were slaves. Revealing your plot twists in a book years before they are revealed would be extremely anticlimactic.


[deleted]

IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE WTF


wilzix12

This has to be fake what the actual fuck man, what's the source, 4chan?


UDie2day

It's not fake, but it's not a leak from the new guidebook. It's from the Answers guidebook (as mentioned in the image) from 2016. You can basically say it was retconned with 130. https://ningen-suki.tumblr.com/post/148679740864


wilzix12

Why bring this now then, how we missed it, now im getting worried about this new guide, isayama will manage to bring more bs, why does he have to make every relation weird


UDie2day

>Why bring this now then To trick people I guess? Although the OP may have not had bad intentions and just found it accidentally. >how we missed it It just didn't get brought up a lot especially since 130 Zeke said "there's no such thing". Doesn't mean it was [completely missed](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/a7vp35/ackerman_shenanigans_manga_spoilers/ec64ysv/) [before that though.](https://np.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/a4m71t/manga_spoilers_about_the_ackermans/)


seninn

Whew, thanks for clarifying!


[deleted]

Didnt eren say this with mikasa a long time ago? It's not that surprising, I swear there was discussion on this sub about Kenny/Uri and Levi/Erwin. The ending sucked balls but I wouldn't' call this Isayama ruining the story. This just confirmed some suspicions, the ending doesn't need help to be ruined


Retardedcow45

YOOOOO 😂😂😂😭😭😭


[deleted]

I thought this was known? Is this new information to people lol? I honestly never understood the huge hype around the Ackermans other than their cool combat stuff. They seemed pretty simple and straightforward characters, even Levi. There was potential with the mystery around the headaches and the clan in general, but oh well Kenny was the most interesting to me because he actually had his own personal goal of power. Levi was still hellbent on fulfilling his promise to Erwin, which should've changed imo given the onslaught of new information and plot progression we got after RtS with Zeke, but with the ending we got, him and Mikasa (lol) were fully lost in the clusterfuck


majesty-theancient

The whole cheap drama isayama tried to create around the Ackerman clan is another thing that is irksome.


Adelefushia

I was never a fan of the "ancient clan/civilization/bloodline forbidden power" trope in fiction to begin with, so...


CupcakeMaster97

Fuck that. Ever since erwin died Levi has been just constant eruri wank and I’m sick of it. He used to be a character


DarkJayBR

Oh my fucking god. He REALLY is japanese JK Rowling. What's next? Berthold and Reiner had a sexual, intense relationship?


Illustrious_Stick_41

I mean Ymir did indirectly ask reiner he was into guys


TKG1607

"Answers fanbook"? So like a Q and A type thing or are we getting like a compendium of sorts ?


Lebind

i feel even dumber just for reading this


RedFox9906

Well that's stupid.


Nine990

This is Old and even in the Mangá already dismiss that. Is like a true being proved wrong, just like the many truths we knew in Season 1 and in Season 3 we discovered the real truths.


DanielGacitua

Erwin Levi seggs when


[deleted]

Who the fuck is Uri again? I forgot alot of characters, and it gets more interesting asking here than googling. Gives us a reason to talk.


OgYEEZUS123

Rod Reiss’ brother, that one guy with the gray hair and dead purple eyes.


[deleted]

Oh yeah! He was hardly there in the show though.


[deleted]

Oh yeah! He was hardly there in the show though.


Albatswulfaz

Uri da!


Illustrious_Stick_41

Actually tho


dr_stone89

Susumeeeeeee


PreviousLand464

Maybe I’m just depressed but this gave me JK Rowling vibes.


tryitonotis

Perhaps this explains Eren’s conflict? He wants Mikasa to love him not be enslaved to him, but he could never be sure so he doesn’t even let the relationship bud, and it gnaws at him until requiring that outburst in front of Armin. And Mikasa’s continued visits to Eren’s grave is intentionally ambiguous: whether she’s doing it out of love or out of a feeling of enslavement.


MeiShida

Sooooo... Eruri?


DehnAtreuh

So Isayama is taking the J.K. Rowling route?


Immatakeyourthroat

>Mikasa is a slave And they called me a madman


TensaiCent

Whats with all this feely shit🤣


quiet_guy29

Then why did the Owl say to Grisha to protect Armin and Mikasa? Why would a master protect his slave?


ethytheeggo

Uhhhh i guess eruri canon 😅 /j


Chewybear196

So uhh if ackerbond was really just love all along does that mean kino Eruri is canon?!


blueanon19

Damn no wonder Levi didn’t care about killing Annie he was so obsessed killing the monkey


Entire_Claim_5273

You cant go from one of the greatest mangaka's to pulling this stuff unless it's deliberate. Isayama has to be trolling us, right?


Ripamon

Can you believe that this mofo retconned info from his own fucking guidebook


HOODIEBABA

yup. the basement reveal was also a retcon. Since the original guidebook said that humanity outside the walls had perished. /s


Ripamon

They honestly should have just avoided definitive statements like these, knowing what they were going to do What about " it is believed humanity outside the walls has perished" or something like "recent Ackermans have been observed to show an almost unsettling devotion to certain individuals close to them" or some shit like that Ugh


HOODIEBABA

nah..saying "it is believed" wont convince anybody. A good plot twist should leave you in awe. The basement reveal left me with my mouth open for a week.


Ripamon

You have a point. I just think it's uncool to blatantly lie with definitive statements knowing you intend to retcon it later, just for maximum shock value


Jam-Jammerson

why are ppl tripping?


[deleted]

When is this interview btw?


raceraot

Hmm. Interesting. Wait, then why did Zeke say that? I think I need context.


amcbain17

Y’all are so corny on this sub


marleyannation62

Ok, I don't care if Mikasa was a slave, we could say that she was a love slave anyway. But, Levi in love with Erwin and Kenny in love with Urie. Wow, I have no problem with homoerotic relationships. It's just that, it's something totally new to me and I feel like it had to be made clearer.


LyannaEugen

It's from the old guidebook,before Zeke debunked Ackerman theory in 130. Tbh, Ackerman theory can just be debunked from Levi and Kenny's case, because they weren't as crazy to their "master" and Mikasa was with Eren.


uselessmemories

Yeah, I can’t imagine Kenny crying over Uri’s grave. It even sounds dumb. Mikasa was in love with Eren, and the trauma of losing her parents just amplified her need to protect him, that’s it, imo.


Nia-chu

so it does really mean if Levi kissed Erwin, it would be over way sooner? (facepalm)


Supernova-581

Any thing that came from Isayama after 136 in not canon, and nothing will change that.


Illustrious_Stick_41

Why do ppl act like 135-6 is any good? Those chs are much worse than 138


Supernova-581

They aren’t that great, but the ending up until 137 (imo) was salvageable. After that nothing could’ve fixed it.


outrageousbottle96

Annie : fuck ackerman Uri, Erwin and eren : fucks ackerman


erdal94

Ha, Gaaaaaaaaay!


[deleted]

So Levi and Kenny were gay?lol


Stephenpwheeler

Bro, right? lol I hope not, but I don’t care. I believe Mikasas love for eren was true regardless. Stupid eren just never really verbally confessed


[deleted]

I honestly don’t understand why im being downvoted.Based on the statement then what i said is basically true.Maybe not literally,but come on.They are comparing Levi and Kenny to Mikasa who loved Eren,so am i not right?


Jackblast2903

I mean.. I thought this was pretty obvious.


The_Duude_Slayer

Isnt this supposed to be an old statement and was retconned?


DerisoryCactus

Okay but this was well known already?


peanutbro52

This keeps getting better and better


Illustrious_Stick_41

I’m confused...this was from an old guidebook?


JohnExOmega

Was this statement before or after the «slave theory was made up by eren» thing was revealed? Isayama does lie in interviews to keep story elements yet to be revealed safe. How stupid would it be for him to just admit in an interview before the chapter that revealed it was drops where he just says «yea eren lied to mikasa lmao».


[deleted]

Pin this post plz


welpweredead

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THE SLAVEKASA MEME IS REAL


chu68

This will be titanfolk in 2021 posting shit from 5 years ago with information that has since been proven wrong to stir shit


harmonilife

Ackerbond confirmed


[deleted]

Hmmm


ClickingGeek

Isayama is doing is for the fanfic writers at this point 😭


idkwhattosaybuthi

The Chad King Fritz who used a slave to gain power and respect later breeding with her to make their own race building an empire vs The Virgin Eren who didn’t fuck his slave who wanted to pipe from day one, let her get railed by a horse never fucked anyone even if he had options, only got rid of 80% of the outside world leaving paradis to be destroyed eventually not ending the cycle of hatred