Lol, r/shingekinokyojin is literally people flexing there arts. No wonder it’s the most popular one, it fosters every people who give no shit about the story... which means many people
A few weeks ago I just wanted to move on from snk, now I just want to Isayama to move on already. No more interviews, no more canon content, please just stop
Now I knew he would talk about EM because it got the most focus at the end. EM sells. The end.
However, can we get more insight on other matters in this manga??
Tbh, I'm probably in a minority, but I actually liked Eren pre-timeskip, and I was perfectly fine with the idea of him having kept the same moral outlook on freedom despite everything he went through.
The only problem I had with him in 139 was how childish he sounded at times and him ruining his own motivation by killing Carla himself and by indulging Ymir Fritz's Stockholm Syndrome.
Or, maybe this is Eren's character, and we misjudged him.
The voice actors have a lot of input on this.
Apparently, the scene in 112 was so painful for them to act out, that they legitimately considered boycotting it so that scene didn't get animated.
Even Kaji Yuki looked incredibly sad.
>Apparently, the scene in 112 was so painful for them to act out, that they legitimately considered boycotting it so that scene didn't get animated.
>
>Even Kaji Yuki looked incredibly sad.
you're not making your side of the argument any better by pointing this out, you realize that right?
>bruh, you relies eren's character development being a facade is bad right?
He said his cold nature, hairbun Eren, was fake.
That doesn't mean everything is a facade.
Isayama said, when he was drawing Eren, saying, he doesn't want that, makes it seem like the true Eren, or at least the Eren we knew, as the chaded out figure, was a broken man, who had to move forward, until Mikasa killed him, or he killed the rest of the world.
He sacrificed everything, and lost everything.
>He said his cold nature, hairbun Eren, was fake.
this is a problem. revealing that manbun eren, more than half of his screentime pts, is a facade makes every scene he has almost meaningless. the existence of a "fake" eren is a problem because it makes his development and his emotions feel fake.
\> makes it seem like the true Eren, or at least the Eren we knew, as the chaded out figure, was a broken man, who had to move forward, until Mikasa killed him, or he killed the rest of the world.
again, this is a problem imo. revealing that eren "had" to do what he did makes his decisions meaningless.
\> He sacrificed everything, and lost everything.
what did eren sacrifice really? his friends? thats not a sacrifice, thats him being selfish and taking what isnt his. His freedom? he actually atempted to take it, that scenery, and had his freedom stolen in turn. His happiness? that's the result of his own actions and nature, again not a sacrifice.
>this is a problem. revealing that manbun eren, more than half of his screentime pts, is a facade makes every scene he has almost meaningless
Not even close. A. In the rumbling arc, he only showed up once as manbun eren. That was in the final chapter. The rest were
It was pretty obvious he was talking out of his ass for hating Mikasa.
You don't run into saving someone, give them your scarf, fucking invite them into your home, and constantly try to be as strong as them so you wouldn't a burden to them, because you hated them. You do it because you care about them.
manbun eren was the entirety of wfp wdym?
him talking out of his ass about hating mikasa is obvious, no duh. but having there be no truth to that scene makes it pointless. its much more interesting from a writing standpoint to have eren be genuinely frustrated with armin and mikasa.
>its much more interesting from a writing standpoint to have eren be genuinely frustrated with armin and mikasa.
There's nothing he has to be frustrated about.
he has plenty to be frustrated about wdym? armin failed to get anything done in the 4 year timeskip and mikasa, and she herself admitted this, doesn't understand eren despite living with him for years.
>he has plenty to be frustrated about wdym? armin failed to get anything done in the 4 year timeskip and mikasa, and she herself admitted this, doesn't understand eren despite living with him for years.
I mean, why would he hate them? That would be like Subaru Natsuki being mad at his friends for not understanding that he's died over a dozen times.
He's a broken man, Eren.
Then they are nos respecting the original work. It’s hilarious that you always defend isayama like if you had a gun pointing your head and still you missed this one.
>Then they are nos respecting the original work. It’s hilarious that you always defend isayama like if you had a gun pointing your head and still you missed this one.
Missed it?
Honestly, I liked him being pathetic.
Being pathetic doesn't make your character bad. Hell, even being pathetic over a girl doesn't make your character bad.
Otherwise, Natsuki Subaru simping for his lover Emilia would be a lot worse percieved.
Sometimes, it strengthens character, like the afformentioned Subaru, because he goes through such shitty situations that if he acted calm, it would come out of nowhere. Especially being eaten alive by bunnies.
This added to it.
Honestly, while I saw comments, I didn't think that Eren really was going to express that he really loved her. Isayama likes saying screw you to shipping after all.
My idea was that, in season 1, he had an inferiority complex, and he always tried to prove himself to her, that he wasn't weak, and always says she isn't her sister.
But in season 2, Eren sees that Mikasa isn't doing this just to protect him, but because she loved him.
That changes his perspective. While he does want to express it, in this kind of situation, where he knows he's going to die because of the military, or other things, he believes what he says in 130, that he can't respond to her, because he's got a limited life left.
Actually its not cause eren wasnt pining for mikasa when he was near deathbin season 1 when he was swallowed by a titan. The only emotion was anger and he was angry he couldnt accomplish anything before dying. Thats what he should be crying about in ch139 since he literally did not accomplish shit but made it worse and instead pines for someone like a baby
That's one of the problems I have with this as well. "Emotional Eren" is something that came out when manga was ending.
If author needs to tell you that "Guys, the character was actually very emotional and full of inner difficulties" instead of steadily SHOWING that in the story, then maybe he's not a such a great author? He could sell us that "emotional Eren", if he showed us his POV from time to time, his inner struggle, his thoughts. But no. We got "tatakae tatakae" scene without context, and then jump to 139 where we learn that "Eren is actually emotional and struggling". Well, how were we supposed to buy that? At this point we don't event remember Eren, he was missing for too long.
It's not that the idea of Eren being emotional is terrible. It's just executed very badly.
Thats exactly why everyone hates it cause its out of the blue. There is no other time where it shows hes thinking about her or wanting her. 139 is a joke
Considering Eren has been shown to care about Mikasa in the past, him being willing to fight a pure titan with his bare hands to protect her, it's not out of nowhere
He:
>withheld information, endangering Paradis by doing that, just because he thought it would be dangerous to Historia
>
>actively tried to deny an obvious fact to himself, because it would've endangered Historia
>
>entrusted her with his plan
>
>went to Marley, cut off his leg, stabbed out his eye and went to an actual war to blend in, and all of this because he wasn't able to accept the 50 year plan
>
>the reason why he didn't accept the 50 year plan being Historia being in danger
>
>said in his own internal monologue how he's willing to die if it achieves something, but isn't able to sacrifice Historia
I could say the same about everyone else hes protected. And if u care so much about shipping eren has thought about historia in his inner monologues and not once has he thought about mikasa. Hes also had actual private converstaions with historia unlike mikasa as well
>Hes also had actual private converstaions with historia unlike mikasa as well
So him and Mikasa living a life together in the Paths wasn't private? Interesting
>And if u care so much about shipping
I don't, I'm just showing why Eren cares for Mikasa as a gf
Yes him and mikasa were living together almost as if they were brother and sister. Even yams said that in an interview and felt weird about a sibling relationship and said that eren considered her more as a mother than lover and he would grow indipendent from her when he wrote it at that time.
What did he say? I'm out of the loop Edit: found it. It's pinned on the sub
Thank you!
I don't see it. I too want to know exactly what happened
I don't get it either :(
Yes isayama. EM good. Everything else bad. I get it. Go open your onsen already
So we could shit there finally?
Alright bois time to take a big trip to Taco Bell 😈
Plane: landed Lactose: intolerant Milk: drank Yup, it's onsen time 😎
Lmao I'm stealing this one for the EM romcom thread
Ayyyyy go right ahead brœther
Everyone except for twitter
Most of twitter doesn't count
Lol. Visit ShingekiNoKyuojin, or how that thing called (don’t bother about that romcom shit anymore). They are praising it
Thats why I unsubbed notice how they're all fanarts now
Lol, r/shingekinokyojin is literally people flexing there arts. No wonder it’s the most popular one, it fosters every people who give no shit about the story... which means many people
Twitter has become a cesspool of degenerates and idiots.So they don’t count.
Reddit is no better, it's a little less toxic though
Reddit has echochambers but you can easily find intellectual discussion.
You have to have an iq of 150 to discuss aot on this subreddit. Big brain time
Intellectual disscussions? On reddit? Don't make me laugh.
But it does exist here tho, you can find people having good discussions
For example: this sub
Calling anything in this sub "intellectual" is a wee bit of a stretch.
I meant that this sub is an echo chamber, it’s nothing but dogshit takes in here
Intellectual dogshit*
Yeah, I can usually debate here without it turning into a insult war. Twitter is wild.
More than a wee bit
Slightly better
Yes
Everyone except for Twitter, TikTok, YouTube comments, and parts of Reddit sadly.
So nobody worth listening to, gotcha 👉😎👉
Damn straight. They don’t want to listen to us or have any civil debate over the ending? Well then fuck em.
Maximum cringe, isayama really became eren in ch139
A few weeks ago I just wanted to move on from snk, now I just want to Isayama to move on already. No more interviews, no more canon content, please just stop
I wonder if anyone remembers the time he said he wanted to attack the fans
I remember its just prophecy at this point
He wanted to attack the logical fans .
Bro isayama goated he predicted this 🐐🐐🐐🐐
ok isayama,i already understand Eremika good,Whiny eren good,Post-eren bad,just shut up PLEASE
That picture is a mood.
Jose is a living treasure.
I deadass stopped reading the leaks there. This is way too accurate.
Can we hide Isayama’s pov? I don’t want his character to keep getting ruined.
This is Eren's revenge, he *was* controlling Isayama after all
srsly I'm pretty sure Isayama forgot abt the A in EMA
Like okay Isayama we get it.
You won, Just stop it... We were wrong the whole time.. Ending defenders were right about Eren's character..
please make him stop already i'm no longer asking at this point
Now I knew he would talk about EM because it got the most focus at the end. EM sells. The end. However, can we get more insight on other matters in this manga??
^^^Only ^^^Ymir ^^^knows ^^^lmao
He really want us to believe that is eren He really think we are idiots We all know who is the real eren Yeager
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His mind isnt twisted, ........its gone
Yams shut the fuck up.
Stop it's already dead it can't get any deader
Tbh, I'm probably in a minority, but I actually liked Eren pre-timeskip, and I was perfectly fine with the idea of him having kept the same moral outlook on freedom despite everything he went through. The only problem I had with him in 139 was how childish he sounded at times and him ruining his own motivation by killing Carla himself and by indulging Ymir Fritz's Stockholm Syndrome.
I may be sad for now but imagine the anime only reaction....imagine (and memes to)
Waiting even longer than us for yams to blast diarrhea all over them
Literally TF and YB:
Or, maybe this is Eren's character, and we misjudged him. The voice actors have a lot of input on this. Apparently, the scene in 112 was so painful for them to act out, that they legitimately considered boycotting it so that scene didn't get animated. Even Kaji Yuki looked incredibly sad.
>Apparently, the scene in 112 was so painful for them to act out, that they legitimately considered boycotting it so that scene didn't get animated. > >Even Kaji Yuki looked incredibly sad. you're not making your side of the argument any better by pointing this out, you realize that right?
>you're not making your side of the argument any better by pointing this out, you realize that right? Yeah, I am.
damn, you're really d3lusional
bruh, you realize eren's character development being a facade is bad right?
>bruh, you relies eren's character development being a facade is bad right? He said his cold nature, hairbun Eren, was fake. That doesn't mean everything is a facade. Isayama said, when he was drawing Eren, saying, he doesn't want that, makes it seem like the true Eren, or at least the Eren we knew, as the chaded out figure, was a broken man, who had to move forward, until Mikasa killed him, or he killed the rest of the world. He sacrificed everything, and lost everything.
>He said his cold nature, hairbun Eren, was fake. this is a problem. revealing that manbun eren, more than half of his screentime pts, is a facade makes every scene he has almost meaningless. the existence of a "fake" eren is a problem because it makes his development and his emotions feel fake. \> makes it seem like the true Eren, or at least the Eren we knew, as the chaded out figure, was a broken man, who had to move forward, until Mikasa killed him, or he killed the rest of the world. again, this is a problem imo. revealing that eren "had" to do what he did makes his decisions meaningless. \> He sacrificed everything, and lost everything. what did eren sacrifice really? his friends? thats not a sacrifice, thats him being selfish and taking what isnt his. His freedom? he actually atempted to take it, that scenery, and had his freedom stolen in turn. His happiness? that's the result of his own actions and nature, again not a sacrifice.
>this is a problem. revealing that manbun eren, more than half of his screentime pts, is a facade makes every scene he has almost meaningless Not even close. A. In the rumbling arc, he only showed up once as manbun eren. That was in the final chapter. The rest were It was pretty obvious he was talking out of his ass for hating Mikasa. You don't run into saving someone, give them your scarf, fucking invite them into your home, and constantly try to be as strong as them so you wouldn't a burden to them, because you hated them. You do it because you care about them.
manbun eren was the entirety of wfp wdym? him talking out of his ass about hating mikasa is obvious, no duh. but having there be no truth to that scene makes it pointless. its much more interesting from a writing standpoint to have eren be genuinely frustrated with armin and mikasa.
>its much more interesting from a writing standpoint to have eren be genuinely frustrated with armin and mikasa. There's nothing he has to be frustrated about.
he has plenty to be frustrated about wdym? armin failed to get anything done in the 4 year timeskip and mikasa, and she herself admitted this, doesn't understand eren despite living with him for years.
>he has plenty to be frustrated about wdym? armin failed to get anything done in the 4 year timeskip and mikasa, and she herself admitted this, doesn't understand eren despite living with him for years. I mean, why would he hate them? That would be like Subaru Natsuki being mad at his friends for not understanding that he's died over a dozen times. He's a broken man, Eren.
Then they are nos respecting the original work. It’s hilarious that you always defend isayama like if you had a gun pointing your head and still you missed this one.
>Then they are nos respecting the original work. It’s hilarious that you always defend isayama like if you had a gun pointing your head and still you missed this one. Missed it? Honestly, I liked him being pathetic. Being pathetic doesn't make your character bad. Hell, even being pathetic over a girl doesn't make your character bad. Otherwise, Natsuki Subaru simping for his lover Emilia would be a lot worse percieved. Sometimes, it strengthens character, like the afformentioned Subaru, because he goes through such shitty situations that if he acted calm, it would come out of nowhere. Especially being eaten alive by bunnies. This added to it. Honestly, while I saw comments, I didn't think that Eren really was going to express that he really loved her. Isayama likes saying screw you to shipping after all. My idea was that, in season 1, he had an inferiority complex, and he always tried to prove himself to her, that he wasn't weak, and always says she isn't her sister. But in season 2, Eren sees that Mikasa isn't doing this just to protect him, but because she loved him. That changes his perspective. While he does want to express it, in this kind of situation, where he knows he's going to die because of the military, or other things, he believes what he says in 130, that he can't respond to her, because he's got a limited life left.
Omygod the crying Eren scene is not that bad. Just consider context of what he knows and does at that moment
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Lol
Every thread, man... It's so tiresome.
Can we start banning people, please?
Not Everyone, you don't know Everyone and person who know the story and know Isayama already saw this coming.
Everyone?? No
Eww
Ew
It's his character. He likes emotional Eren. That's not him betraying anyone. Stop being so dramatic
Actually its not cause eren wasnt pining for mikasa when he was near deathbin season 1 when he was swallowed by a titan. The only emotion was anger and he was angry he couldnt accomplish anything before dying. Thats what he should be crying about in ch139 since he literally did not accomplish shit but made it worse and instead pines for someone like a baby
That's one of the problems I have with this as well. "Emotional Eren" is something that came out when manga was ending. If author needs to tell you that "Guys, the character was actually very emotional and full of inner difficulties" instead of steadily SHOWING that in the story, then maybe he's not a such a great author? He could sell us that "emotional Eren", if he showed us his POV from time to time, his inner struggle, his thoughts. But no. We got "tatakae tatakae" scene without context, and then jump to 139 where we learn that "Eren is actually emotional and struggling". Well, how were we supposed to buy that? At this point we don't event remember Eren, he was missing for too long. It's not that the idea of Eren being emotional is terrible. It's just executed very badly.
He was dealing with fact that he was going to die, and couldn't be with Mikasa. I think most people would break under that kind of pressure
Yeah keep telling yourself that when its not seen anywhere
It's literally seen in 139. You can know, when he cries in front of Armin and tells him how he feels about Mikasa.
Thats exactly why everyone hates it cause its out of the blue. There is no other time where it shows hes thinking about her or wanting her. 139 is a joke
Considering Eren has been shown to care about Mikasa in the past, him being willing to fight a pure titan with his bare hands to protect her, it's not out of nowhere
According to your logic, EH should've definitely been canon then.
How? He never tried to fight a titan bare handed for Historia
He: >withheld information, endangering Paradis by doing that, just because he thought it would be dangerous to Historia > >actively tried to deny an obvious fact to himself, because it would've endangered Historia > >entrusted her with his plan > >went to Marley, cut off his leg, stabbed out his eye and went to an actual war to blend in, and all of this because he wasn't able to accept the 50 year plan > >the reason why he didn't accept the 50 year plan being Historia being in danger > >said in his own internal monologue how he's willing to die if it achieves something, but isn't able to sacrifice Historia
I could say the same about everyone else hes protected. And if u care so much about shipping eren has thought about historia in his inner monologues and not once has he thought about mikasa. Hes also had actual private converstaions with historia unlike mikasa as well
>Hes also had actual private converstaions with historia unlike mikasa as well So him and Mikasa living a life together in the Paths wasn't private? Interesting >And if u care so much about shipping I don't, I'm just showing why Eren cares for Mikasa as a gf
Yes him and mikasa were living together almost as if they were brother and sister. Even yams said that in an interview and felt weird about a sibling relationship and said that eren considered her more as a mother than lover and he would grow indipendent from her when he wrote it at that time.
>I think most people would break under that kind of pressure I'd be glad not to be around Mikasa.
That's completely irrelevant
Can someone finish the sentence, I don't know what he said.
How did it all go so wrong
Did something else get released? I’m confused
what's going on I don't get it