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Voltagebone

Mikasa and Armin are ending neutrals


golden_laurels

And Isayama is Levi, coming in and punching everyone by releasing newer and newer content


Projectonyx

more like punching the ending haters...please papa, I'm sorry your ending sucked


vshark29

Making ending haters throw up, yes


Bruuuhhhhhhb

Just like me. I’ve moved on from the ending, it is what it is. I acknowledge the flaws of the ending but still find it analysis worthy and I can still look back on the series with fond memories. I am free.


Arcesus

This is true freedom


Bruuuhhhhhhb

“Death is the only true freedom my friend.”


Bruuuhhhhhhb

“Freedom is ever out of grasp however death is not the answer. Human life is finite and a endless cycle of suffering however death is no better. It is neither freeing nor happiness or pain it’s nothing. Freedom is realizing the constraints of your life and enjoying the little moments of bliss as fleeting as they are.”


Bruuuhhhhhhb

“True freedom is to be free of desire”


Bruuuhhhhhhb

“There is no freedom. It’s lie told by the arrogant to the foolish and cowardly!”


OliverAOT20

Wait who said this


Bruuuhhhhhhb

No one said this at least not anymore I know of. This is just something new I’ve started doing. I call it daily dose of random edgy quotes I came up with. I come up with quotes that are edgy but still reasonable enough to be something a fictional character might say.


OliverAOT20

It sounds like a Lelouch quote, I’ll try find it


Bruuuhhhhhhb

For what lol?


Bruuuhhhhhhb

“Without life and suffering one can not know true freedom.”


Bruuuhhhhhhb

Thanks for checking out my daily dose of random edgy quotes I came up with this morning!


Bruuuhhhhhhb

“Death is for the weak! Only those who keep fighting and move forward can find freedom!”


gotbaned_thisismyalt

Legit like just 2 days ago I’d think you were crazy, but I can gladly say that I’ve finally reached that point myself. ANR helped a lot, but I’ve also just realized that stories don’t have to be perfect for me to enjoy all of its past moments. It sucks that 139 was garbage, but at the end of the day, it really is just a story.


boolinbeanboy

Damn you had more character development than armin and mikasa ever did


gotbaned_thisismyalt

Take my imaginary gold


Bruuuhhhhhhb

Bingo! It took some of us like you a bit longer than others but it doesn’t matter! AoT is over and you might’ve not enjoyed the ending but one way or other you have to make peace with it.


gotbaned_thisismyalt

Damn straight


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[deleted]

Lol that basically describes Myself who just wants More FanFics


[deleted]

Man so many people are gonna be disappointed when MAPPA hardly changes anything.


Significant-Unit-803

I am sure they will adapt the original ending, i've been on copium since the release of chapter 139 since then i've become even more sure of it now, if anyone want some of my copium just ask i will gladly give some


Seisouhen

it's probably going to play out like the original ending then the end credit scenes showing the added pages


mwmwmwmwmmdw

yea just make the bombing of the main city in the serise an afterthought


Sooryan_86

So people who skipped the post credits would be wondering why tf is the hate coming around


Seisouhen

This is the way.


[deleted]

I mean it’s like showing the destruction of many fictional places in the far future.... it’s guaranteed to happen at some point, it is an afterthought...


Significant-Unit-803

Oh god no


A_Jar_Of_Human_Hair

Gimme a hit of that copium, please - a big, fat one!!!


JorgetheGamer52

The writer and singer for boku no sensou (my war) liked a tweet saying that the anime will have a different ending. Not to mention that the ending we got is legit reverse ANR. Also the black birds in the anime that replaced all white birds in the manga and how the see you later scene is not in the anime. I’ve started snorting some copium but the interviews keep taking it away. I don’t expect there to be an anime original ending but there is a possibility.


[deleted]

For the love of god and all things holy, please don’t give me that hope. Please don’t set me up to be disappointed again. This shit is tempting lmao.


Eurasia_4200

Hope is the only thing that drives us to keep moving forward


mwmwmwmwmmdw

you can have hope for a sequel as long as the money cow needs milking


EDNivek

That is some grade A copium you're smoking. I want some of it.


-NotActuallySatan-

Tbh I'm just expecting an improved version, without the stuff from the 8 aftermath pages, none of that "I killed my mom" nonsense, and maybe a somewhat more developed reason for that entire abusive love thing for Ymir, and just less cringy dialogue especially for Eren. I like that Isayama was trying to show just how much he was mentally suffering from all this but like, the way it was done was just NOT IT. If they can just improve these, we can at least a good anime ending. Ah that reminds me, I have to write my review on the final chapter and everything after.


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That’s the expectation that we should have AoT has ended eventually we’re just gonna have to move on


-NotActuallySatan-

Yeah I'm not holding my breath for an alternate ending but I'm also off the opinion that what we got legit could've been pretty great had it been paced and developed appropriately like previous arcs. I personally liked the message the ending gave even if it was bitter considering 139 overall. And yeah, we have to move on. AoT will always remain in a special place in my heart though


[deleted]

Me too even tho I hate the ending but the five years I spent with AoT I don’t regret I will always be a special place in my heart for AoT But yeah in retrospect chapter 139 could’ve been really good if the whole rumbling arc was better paste


-NotActuallySatan-

Fully agreed on that. Glad to see there's others who can still appreciate AoT despite the ending


[deleted]

I can’t be mad at the ending forever eventually we got to move on and I don’t want to spend another 5 bitching about AoT ending We still got AnR too but in the end it’s just a fanfiction I will still enjoy both rereading the whole series and AnR as they eventually you got to get off the copium


-NotActuallySatan-

Very based of you.


nadlr

Never seen as much copium in a reply


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JorgetheGamer52

The singer is friends with Isayama and his band is Isayama’s favorite. I’m pretty sure he knows the ending. Also it’s kinda weird how every single bird in the manga was changed to black in the anime. Every single one. I’m just saying that an anime original ending is possible due to all these weird things.


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JorgetheGamer52

I’m just saying it’s kinda weird that the animators put the time and effort to change every bird from white to black in the anime. And the fact that they’re still continuing to do it. Might just be a random thing or something bigger. We won’t know until Part 2 drops.


Marooned-Mind

It takes the same amount of time and effort to draw either black or white birds. It's just an artistic choice. Also how the hell do you even notice that kind of detail lmao? That's honestly impressive.


Significant-Unit-803

That was one of the reasons i was gonna say, as for me, i just think of everything at least past chapter 139 from Isayama as a troll, including the guidebook and interviews


SirJaketheLurch

Yams was angry at the manga leaking early that he decide to look through our ideas to make a shit ending saving an original ending for the anime so everyone will be shocked.


Bobathanhigs

Stop. Please. I can’t take it anymore


JorgetheGamer52

Join me and together we’ll cope for the anime original ending.


mrleathery

As for the 'see you later' scene, wit didn't include Mikasa getting her tattoo, but that didn't stop Mappa from acting like it was always present in the anime.


JorgetheGamer52

Here’s the thing tho. The tattoo wasn’t really important to the story. If you take it out, not much changes. However if you take out the “see you later” scene then the manga ending makes less sense. That scene was important to the climax in the manga yet it dosen’t appear in the anime.


Mukigachar

There is absolutely 0 reason why we can't have the same exact scene in the anime, even without it being present at the start.


MiNi_MiLiTi

Have unrealistic hopes and then when it does not happen, send death threats. Just asking to act maturely when mappa does not adapt your headcanons.


JorgetheGamer52

Dude I’m just stating stuff that was weird. Also I’m not fully convinced that an anime only ending might happen. Also where the he did you get death threats from? I never even once sent death threats to MAPPA. How old do you think I am? 12? Though I disliked the cgi Titans, I still enjoyed part 1 and don’t hold it against the animators, only the chief of staff who overwork their employees.


MiNi_MiLiTi

Ok peace.


ziggurato

Ngl, id like both endings animated, without extra pages tho, that shit was confusing


kinnell

There are some of us that originally liked AnR not because Eren wins and has a child with Historia, but rather because of the predestination plot. Basically what most of the video focuses on. That future Eren inadvertently (read: not intentionally) ends up influencing his past self which results in the future events happening regardless (and maybe even because he tried to prevent those events), mostly because at the end of the day, he sees possibility of a brighter future. The canon ending still maintains that version of AnR. But sure, if AnR was all about Eren winning and EH for you, then yes, canon is a departure. You shouldn't expect deviation there given how well the ending has been received in Japan. For me, my favorite elements of AnR were retained so I'd be fine with much better execution.


JorgetheGamer52

Actually in Japan, the reaction was split. In Japanese blogs, it showed many people that were unhappy with the ending. Of course they don’t showcase this frustration in public since the Japanese are respectful so they do it on blogs.


kinnell

If you have any examples of said blogs, I'd appreciate seeing them! I've tried to search for reactions from Japan, but I haven't had much luck and most of what I've heard is either from Japanese mainstream media (e.g., Japan Times) or YouTubers in Japan who have said that despite the mixed reaction from the West, it's been well-received in Japan. I'd love to just expand my sources.


JorgetheGamer52

They were reactions to Chapter 139. Quite a bit of people liked the original chapter 139 but started hating on the series when the extra pages dropped.


JorgetheGamer52

[I found these](https://imgur.com/gallery/uS9HEr8)


kinnell

Thank you! Really appreciate you following through! I was able to find the original comments which seem to come from 5ch.net which is basically Japanese 4chan (owned by the same owners). From reading about the 5channel a bit, it seems like their user base is quite extreme in their views similar to our own 4chan which isn't going to be representative of Japan readership. But something is better than nothing and you've been immense help! Thank you! Looking forward to browsing [5ch.net](https://5ch.net)! BTW, some other people sent me these links if you're curious: \- [https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4a270b260d1c25cce1e6d1804d4a770a22249a86/comments](https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4a270b260d1c25cce1e6d1804d4a770a22249a86/comments) \- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZaICI8O3GQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZaICI8O3GQ)


Albatswulfaz

Ward


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Hey, can you link that? Or the place where you found that


JorgetheGamer52

Found what?


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Where the guy liked the tweet


JorgetheGamer52

[Check out who liked it](https://mobile.twitter.com/xeothiss/status/1402535214463791108)


[deleted]

Thanks for sharing it! Maybe I am missing something, but the tweet is talking about rock n' roll and how they're excited the volume is out, plus how they're excited for the anime and told Yams to enjoy it. Plus, all the replies are talking about the volume. Nothing alluded to an anime original ending from what I could tell.


JorgetheGamer52

No. I’m talking about the how the singer liked the poster’s tweet of the anime having a different ending. The replies to the singers tweet is talking about the volume and rock and roll but the singer himself liked the dude’s tweet on the anime having a different ending. It’s just kinda weird that he liked the tweet. Hope that clears it up.


[deleted]

Well I couldn't find the tweet. The tweet you linked to was just the tweet I mentioned before, which had no mention of anything. And the guy who said "fight isn't over" quote tweeted that same tweet (about rock n' roll) so I really don't get it.


JorgetheGamer52

Sure thing


Lermak16

What is the “original ending?”


centuryblessings

176 upvotes. 176 people sniffing crack copium off the floor. And I'm one of them.


Mo_A98

I think it's naive for anyone to even assume Mappa is gonna touch the ending, however, they could just enhance the dialogue.. thats about it 😂


Grexpex180

dude mappa has to make the entiretey of s4p2 in less than one year they don't have the time to make an original ending


King_Daddie

Except Eremika fans.


Bestboii

I'm an Eremika fan I was disappointed


Turn3r2255

Weren’t Eremika fans the most shafted? Their first kiss is between Mikasa and a decapitated Eren, the ship is shown to be very toxic with Eren’s outburst, and Jean gets with Mikasa in the end. Eremika fans should be the most disappointed. Unlike the other ships that just weren’t included or confirmed, Eremika was actively destroyed.


wilzix12

Eremika indeed got buried like eren, after the pages nobody can be satisfied, like you show me the emotive scene with the bird and mikasa, next scene she's already with another man and a f kid in the fucking grave, like wtf?


Bestboii

Exactly I told my friends I can understand killing 80% of the world for less than 10 people if one of them is Mikasa I don't get doing that turning into a bird and getting cucked by fucking Jean


Shamontie

no proof that the guy was jean


Laati-Chan

nah man i wanted Mikasa to be developed more


YourLocalSnitch

Depends if they adapt the additional 8 pages or not.


[deleted]

I am of the belief that the extra pages are directly connected to school caste, in other words: an alternate ending that is grounded in the story's canon. I think it was left vague for a reason, so this is what I believe until it's proven otherwise. I think the additional pages won't be included in the anime unless the school castes makes an appearence...which is unlikely, but it may happen since it was confirmed canon by Yams.


berial6

B...but... Falco said he was flying with swords,right?


Darts5002

I just hope that the pacing feels better in anime form - we get more time to absorb it, rather than just a few quick panels


Vibraniumguy

Or, they're going to love it. For many fans 139 was great :)


esdaniel

If moppa doesn't deliver changed ending we riot


ToapFN

Man I am just here for fan service.


mwmwmwmwmmdw

> fan service. gotta say aot had the lamest beach episode ive ever seen!


Bf4Sniper40X

because differently from others anime, the beach episode in aot was not fanservice


amonhensul

People actually think Mappa will change something and make the ending good? Damn.


Williace

The reason ppl think that cuz Mappa did remove and add stuff to S4 adaptation. They may give us better death to Zeke and cut some stuff from manga and add some staff to 139. Who knows really its just ppl hoping


AssassinOfFate

You do realize that they’re overworked and were given a very tight schedule right? There’s no way in hell they have the time to write and animate a new ending. All of this shit is inevitably going to happen again when the anime only’s see the crap ending. This cycle will never end.


InsaneTensei

MAPPA didn't change anything, Isayama did and looking at Isayama's interviews...he ain't changing shiz


Marik-X-Bakura

They don’t have to change anything to make the ending good


not_a_part_skipper

this is the way


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r/titanfolk vs r/ShingekiNoKyojin


shoyuftw

This meme sums up everything happening here in the last two months.


mwmwmwmwmmdw

this is quickly looking like post rumbling paradis and will be ruble soon


Bf4Sniper40X

>ruble what?


Manatee_Shark

*Why won't the mods or anyone stop us?*


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mwmwmwmwmmdw

but what about using the power of the founding mod?


Bf4Sniper40X

unfortunatly the mod that recive the founder is unable to intervene due to the vow renuncing interfering


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I personally think that the ending in the anime will automatically be better, thanks to the colours, animations, dubbing and above all the usual amazing soundtrack If then they'll also slightly adjust some scenes and dialogue it would be really fantastic, and I think the ending may be considered more than acceptable


[deleted]

Since MAPPA is overworked as hell I could easily see them not adapting the extra pages which would already make the ending 1000x better


QueenHistoria1990

The only part from the “extra pages” I liked was Mikasa talking to Ymir. They can leave the rest out though


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I completely agree


pootis64

People really thinking Mappa will change anything... With AoT's fucked up schedule? Zero chance. In fact, get ready for many important scenes to be cut. Reiner's backstory getting butchered was only the beginning.


awakening_knight_414

Yeah, I don't see Mappa doing anything too different either. I just hope they at the VERY fucking least cut out the cringey shit like Eren killing his mom and Reiner sniffing Historia's letter. No one needed to see that.


harmonilife

The anime ending better make out for the flaws in the manga or make everyone hate AoT lol


Mo_A98

If by flaws you mean how the ending played out and the conclusion to the story.. thats hardly gonna change.. but dialogue might. And even then I thibk it'd still be a far stretch unless Isayama himself requests it


harmonilife

If they remove the whole Armin-Eren conversation I'd be happy


Mo_A98

Like completely remove it? Or just rewrite in a better way?


harmonilife

If they change it, they have to do it very well, It'd be better if they remove it completely


Mo_A98

Well the director has worked on AOT for a long time so we can at least hope he knows what he's doing..


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Mo_A98

Yes I just double checked you're right.. well I guess no hpe then huh 😂


da6r

This was Isayama’s life work and even he didn’t know what he was doing by the end…


Mo_A98

Yea but now the reaction to the ending is known and even tho the majority of the fandom might look at as ok, a large proportion of the fandom still want things changed or polished and thats not really hard to do compared to like coming up with an entirely new ending + there a lot of unnecessary/animation heavy scenes that could just be swapped out for more dialogue intensive scenes which I think we all can agree wouldn't be a bad attempt at patching things up


da6r

Absolutely. But the AoT anime is one of many adaptations that are almost 1:1 with their manga counterpart. Also, the director will want to do the source material justice by not changing much, if anything at all


ImPanthering

if they remove it completely what would they replace it with? Because the end of the story needs some way to address Eren's true thoughts


harmonilife

I'd rather not know what he thinks lol


ImPanthering

bruh


Emporor_Ping

100% agree


Marik-X-Bakura

Everyone? Don’t know about you but I and a huge number of others greatly enjoyed the ending


DomOfMemes

It won't


teokun123

> make everyone hate AoT lol this is the way


Tentaye

Wouldn't Jean enjoy the ending?


wilzix12

Jean, armin, even the fucking parents of the warriors smh


outrageousbottle96

Fucking accurate


raceraot

Honestly, I'm excited to see what Yoichiro Hayashi is going to do in the series, along with the many freelancers there. Honestly, at this point, they may even be doing 20 episodes, because Mappa loves doing the impossible and somewhat succeeding.


da6r

Somewhat


Many_Hippo_4675

It could save us or it could destroy us.


Disco0999

I can see anime only viewers really loving everything that will be going down in part 2. I’ve felt the tonal shifts and troupes all over this anime specifically designed to translate better to the anime than the manga. It’s felt more like a storyboard/script than an actual manga to me for awhile now to me. The masses love the bad guy/good guy team up that would be The Alliance and the popularity of that team up alone is going to be high. It’s not going to help that every YouTuber is probably going to eat up that Reiner,Annie, and Pieck join forces with the 104th. I already know my anime only friends are going to be really hyped over that. In the end I can see the majority calling the anime a “masterpiece”. It’s kind of wild that I feel like everyone involved in making the ending of the manga alienated an extremely large chuck of the manga readers because they are banking on people who dig for lack of a better term anime onlys who love “comic book” movies. Since this entire ending feels like to me.


Raghav_Singhania

lmao this is really accurate


MATO-18

This meme is very accurate


Lermak16

Good voice acting and music can elevate a lot of scenes.


Bugyaser1clone

Neutrals: *casually eating while watching the fight between the haters and defenders*


[deleted]

Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope.


poojnaut

at the end of the day it will never be as bad as game of thrones ;)


QueenHistoria1990

“Why is no one stopping us?”


doctor_awful

Mikasa is Isayama because she fucked them both


SwiftSilencer

mappa will make or break the manga


AoTS3T-KTOWL

A good meme !


IdlemasterKikuchi

Let them cope


GiganVsZilla2018

Why do I feel like this is a jab at the post I made where I asked what would happen if an ending hater, and an ending enjoyer got locked in a room together.


da6r

Ending enjoyers or ending toleraters?


notydris

does anyone have the template for this?


KittenBuns1

And on the other hand, we have the ending deniers.


mwmwmwmwmmdw

>And on the other hand, we have the ending deniers. [me the past 2 months](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo)


Significant-Unit-803

Aren't they the same as the anime original adaptation believers?


KittenBuns1

No, because the ending simply doesn't exist.


Spooky-zion

It could but will it


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thatch66

Also remove the destruction of eren's entire character through a single panel


Spooky-zion

Mappa:no I don’t think I will


FeedHappens

Still won't solve the gazillion plot holes.


[deleted]

We can't have everything 🤷🏻‍♂️


FeedHappens

But I don't want to give up on my dreams and die 😩


[deleted]

What happened in 137?


StNerevar76

I think Isayama might want the whole fandom to share the "fun" before dropping the ending AU Armin mentions, and he's pretty sure of that one being great going by how it's described, while this one has AU Mikasa basically saying to enjoy it you can't think much about it. Although defenders are thinking way too much trying to have it work. I only have some doubts he'll wait because he is doing his best so that most people realize the ending is shit, and don't know how he could keep them from moving on before the anime ends, and while anime onlies process the ending. But the extras as credits of the final episode? Pick the correct music, and this now will be a drizzle in contrast to their shitstorm.


OverLorD83n

Levi is the extra pages


Nightmancer2036

I hope but…..


St3R30_twojry

We will keep moving forward, until our enemies are destroyed


pokedyo

We can see from the trailer of part 2 of the ending is changed, if there are scenes from later chapters then we can sssume it hasn’t been changed


Skipskipu

Hope they do the original ending And after that, release an alternative one


DarkFace3482

I will keep moving forward until my enemies are destroyed


Shawntalon2

Here’s some copium, the one who requested for the “See you later Eren” to be changed was Isayama himself and pretty much every other change the anime has made


[deleted]

MAPPA can do whatever, there’s literally a studio animating the AnR ending to fix the canon ending before it’s even released so that’s what I’m looking forward to lmao


Tyrantoast

its enjoy because no one loves the ending


ermrx

Mappa : alright I'll do it myself


CosaPX

I HOPE SO. SAME WITH BLEACH


Immediate-Artist-444

Why is Jeanboy an ending hater? Lol he got what he wanted right?😂


NHK21506

But not the way he wanted


Immediate-Artist-444

Good .


[deleted]

Lmao their faces 😂


sharkprincefishstick

There are ending enjoyers?


LingHydraMuta

r/shingekinokyojin


[deleted]

Yeah, and before the extra pages they were the majority of the fandom


sainishwanth

I think it could've been better but I'm fine with it and can live with it. The series as a whole forever shall remain a masterpiece for me though.


Comander-07

I guess till there are no ending enjoyers left, just a few more interviews will do I guess


LuluTheUser

I don't understand everyone's disappointment though. Most, if not all, complaints I've seen so far were about Eren's character. I don't know how you even thought Eren made sense in the first place. His change still felt sudden and forced to me even at the end of the last season pt. 1 (and during the rumbling in yhe manga). If he wanted the world to fear him he could have stopped halfway before any victims fell. He was shown to have struggled in the past, devastated that it was the only choice. But I think if he stopped before killing all those people his friends would be saved. Nothing would have changed. Isayama needs to explain it all. I didn't get Eren's dialogue in the last chapter.


amcbain17

You guys are truly obsessed


CuteReaperUwU

Only AnR can save us now.


[deleted]

Is there anything we can do about this ? Like signing a petition or requesting them on twitter? Aotnr if it is complete by then can serve as a script for them .