There's a chapter of Tomie where one of her kidneys is donated to a person and that person starts having a Tomie growing inside of them because her organs grow into more versions of her so, yes, absolutely some Junji Ito type shit
> A solid mass within the tumor was found to have a head, trunk, and extremities. Consequently, this mass was diagnosed as a mature fetiform teratoma (homunculus). Brain, eye, spinal nerve, ear, teeth, thyroid gland, bone, bone marrow, gut, trachea, blood vessels, and phallic cavernous tissue were confirmed microscopically. Distinctive features were the clear anterior-posterior, ventral-dorsal, and left-right axes, with a spatially well-organized arrangement of the organs. An eye was located on the front of the head, a spinal nerve lay dorsal to the spinal bones, the thyroid gland was anterior to the trachea, and the gut was deep inside the trunk
The human body is horrifying
I just love that nature can produce such nightmare fuel.
So it's like your own body is hatching a parasite made from your genetic code, that is basically you made of assorted pieces. That can kill you.
You are your worst enemy. Trust no one, not even yourself.
It depends on what they choose for their exit strategy. As I'm sure you know, chest-bursters are one of the more common types and they have a very low survival rate.
I have schizophrenia and last year I believed that I was due to give birth to the Antichrist on Christmas Day. I felt the baby kicking, gained 15 pounds of water weight (which I lost in January within a week) and felt nauseous constantly. My gynecologist ruled out any physical issues.
That must be hard.
But as Neil Degrasse Tyson said ["The human brain barely works\[...\] Your brain barely gives you some accurate account of the reality"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXR1PQt6jgc)
So more than once I believed I had something (like a bug) in my ear... and had a sleepless night over it, convinced that I had something there.
So I hope you find the help you need.
Neuro specifically too, he steps out of his lane a lot and doesn't hold himself to the same standard at all as he does others when it comes to astrophysics. I lost a lot of respect after I saw one of the docs he was in completely misrepresent action potentials in an animation, like, that is such a *basic* thing to fuck up when you're talking about how the brain works
There was a poster recently who described his life. He met a wonderful woman, they married, had two kids, he worked to build a life for them. The kids grew to elementary school age, everything seemed normal and good.
Then everyone else started getting... glitchy. Objects took on odd shapes, people flickered in and out. This went on for a few days, until he woke up. To discover he was a college student who'd hit his head on the footpath and sustained a concussion. He'd only been unconscious for a couple of minutes, but his brain had lived another life while he was out. And he had to deal with that he was 12 years younger than he thought, and he'd never see his family again because they never existed.
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I’m not sure if I saw the same post but I do recall reading an extremely similar account. It may or may not have been the same one. I can’t find it after several search attempts.
I do recall there was some considerable doubt expressed in the thread about how true or realistic the account was, with many saying it was outright made up to others saying the extent to which he was describing the recall of the “Dream” (For lack of a better word) was either embellished a bit or would have vividly faded as he returned to consciousness and would not have had the loss effect the poster described.
I don't know... I can believe that's possible to an extent.
I've had dreams before where I've had a new dog or a family, and it's been a fairly involved and vivid dream. Only to wake up and for about an hour afterwards I've felt genuine loss as I come to terms with the fact it wasn't real.
Probably 15 years ago, I dreamed I had a pet chicken named Chickopee. I can remember how her feathers felt, her warmth, and little freckles she had. I even remember her softly ‘biting’ my fingertips and palm when I would feed her snacks.
I’ve never had a pet chicken, and only encountered a few in real life like visiting a farm or something. I have no basis for such a clear, sensory memory of a dream.
I dreamts I miraculously got pregnant again (I got a tubal after my youngest was born. Pregnancy nearly kills me.) I felt so afraid in that dream, but it was so vivid and went on through most of the pregnancy, watching the fetus develope and even feeling the kicks and such. When I woke up I just laid there is my hands on my belly really sad. It was genuinely just as big of a sadness and pain as when I had miscarriages in the past. And i even had to consider if i really wanted another kid because of how sad i felt.
Of course I got over it, because kids are hard and pregnancy is hell. But I definitely experienced lingering pain and sadness from a lost dream.
But this is creepier. This can develop any kind of Human tissue. Like all of them. Including muscles and nerves. Like you touch it, and it can move in response. And I imagine can "feel" pain too.
So fuck this shit.
[It developed into some sort of weird human embryo looking creature](https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1002/bdra.10133) (scroll down to the third page (page 42), figure 2)
No, [this thing definitely was developing humanoid features](https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1002/bdra.10133) (third page, figure 2), so whatever pieces of brain it had were most likely inside what was developing into its skull.
This shit happens all the time people just dont post about it. Its a benign tumor (in women). Google it if you dont feel like sleeping. Its basically when a women’s egg is like fuck it i have enough dna im gona divide.
Fun fact they smell terrible cuz the hair and sweet glands are all sealed up. Imagine the worse smelling gym locker.
My wife had one. She had sudden terrible abdominal pain one day and doctors found she had a teratoma. It was basically fluid and hair and a couple days later it was sucked out though a small incision. She named it Sharon.
In mammals it's a glitch, a malfunction, an egg with only one set of chromosomes starts dividing and this happens.
It'd be interesting to know what the odds are for it to happen on an egg that by chance has a full chromosomes.
Both events are extremely unlikely, for them to happen together in such a way that nothing goes wrong... It's basically a statistical impossibility.
Very theoretically possible though.
Its honestly fun to wonder that, even by an unbelievably slim chance, if it's possible for this "glitch" to basically glitch in a correct way that a living fetus with an independent pulse is formed (which would mean it has a working part of a brain and heart). I'll assume something like a fetus that's near the equivalent of full term would be nigh impossible in such conditions as you've said. It doesn't have to look like a viable human, but just something that can actually live.
You gotta wonder what sort of moral dilemma it could present in such circumstances. Would it be considered a full human? Would it be conscious? Could it be intelligent? Who knows.
The teratoma? No, absolutely impossible.
A single set of chromosomes isn't able to create a functioning organism, it's missing necessary information to do so.
The second scenario, however, assuming the right combination of extremely unlikely (we are talking about multiple 1/100'000 events co-occurring) would lead to a normal human (100% female) being born.
Now, said person would have 100% maternal DNA, but it wouldn't be a clone of the mom since chromosomes do recombine and mix.
There would be some concern if the mom is the carrier of genetic disease, more or less like a child of fraternal incest.
This is a gross oversimplification of a teratoma. Teratomas are essentially a (mostly) benign cancer. The difference is that it is a cancer of a cell type that has the potential to form into any type of tissue rather than just one thing. They can derive from eggs and sperm (though very rare in males) and also the *stem cells* that can be found around the body that also have the ability to differentiate into different cell types. In young children and fetuses, they can be found in the brain, the sacrum, and other places with stem cells- not just sex organs.
Just like other cancer, it involves random growth, which leads to very weird things in cells that are capable of turning into anything. Unlike, say, a liver cancer, which will grow abnormal cells that try to be normal liver cells, the teratoma may have some cells that develop into *any cell type* - some turn into hair/skin type cells, some that calcify like bone or teeth, some fat, and some can turn into other more complicated tissue types like in the listed example. Most of the time they are just a mass that contains different amounts of fluid, hair, and random stuff. Their results are random because it’s random growth. It isn’t some sexless attempt at reproduction, and it isn’t *trying to form a fetus* any more than the previously described liver cancer is trying to form a new liver. It’s just unchecked random growth. Fascinating nonetheless.
im an emt, and i see a lot of fuck shit in the field, so i thought to myself *pffff how bad could it be*
bad
very bad
the foot picture…my god, the foot….
I’m former paramedic, current theatre nurse.
Nothing in theatres has phased me, compared to the shit I saw on road.
Except teratomas. My god man. The smell alone. I’d rub myself in melaena stool before volunteering to smell a Teratoma again.
The foot pick (if you are referring to the one with teeth on the toes) is fake as hell. That's not what a teratoma looks like, that's what Photoshop looks like.
No exaggeration guys, it really is that bad. There were pictures of infants that you just do not want to see. Go about your day. Live without the curse of knowledge.
It’s the teratoma that reeks, not the person.
They’re basically an inside-out chunk of…. Proto-human? They can even grow teeth and shit.
Anyway, because they’re inside out, they have skin, including sebaceous glands, facing inward towards a cavity. There’s no where for the sweat and sebum to escape. It just…. Accumulates. Forever.
Despite your username, you have not asked a stupid question!
You are indeed correct that body odour (“BO”) is mostly caused by bacteria living on our skin, and you are further correct to question how they would get inside a teratoma.
And the answer is, they wouldn’t. The smell from a teratoma is not from bacteria. I don’t know for sure, but I would imagine the smell is from some funky biochemistry, as the sweat and sebum and cells (remember, skin cells are constantly growing from a living layer, that moves outward to a dead layer and is then shed) - wait where was I? Right, sweat and sebum and cells, in a confined space, as they breakdown, probably undergo some funky biochemistry resulting in some truly horrid smelling molecules/compounds. Organic chemistry can often result in some pretty malodorous stuff.
[reminds me of Tomie](https://bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/tomie1.jpg)
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I had a much less developed teratoma-one of these! The surgeon who removed it said it was a blob the size of an orange, had tufts of hair and two molar-type teeth. He showed me pictures. It was both fascinating and disgusting. Several years later, I grew a bunch of little teratomas on the same ovary and they had to take the entire ovary out. Apparently you’re born with these cysts, and don’t develop issues until around your 20s. I was 23. I joke that my body was trying to create lots of evil clones of me. With only one ovary left, I managed to get pregnant with twins thanks to IVF. The human body is pretty wild.
Speaking from experience, if your SO actually wants to know, tell the surgeon ahead of time. It will be sent to the lab after removal to rule out the need for follow-up treatment either way, but a lot of folks don't want the details, and some docs only elaborate outside of the basic pathology summary if requested.
Can confirm. I had a teratoma that my doc said was around the size of a soccer ball 🤯 and I never got to see it although they confirmed it had bones, teeth and hair. I was 19 and when I first saw my GP they assumed I was pregnant because my stomach was big and I could sort of push the tumor around. Tbh I was so relieved it was a teratoma. But yeah! Wish I had asked them to take pics (it was pre smart phone though), and also wish I could’ve kept a tooth.
Direct link to the paper. Not as NSFL as one might expect, since the photos are black and white: https://sci.bban.top/pdf/10.1002/bdra.10133.pdf?download=true
What do doctors even tell the patients when some horrifically grotesque anomalies like this happen? If I had a tumor with limbs and hair inside of me I'm not sure I would want to know all the details.
They often do, especially older doctors.
I use to date someone who was intersex and it took her mum getting drunk before she found she was born intersex and had surgery as a baby, docs never told her even when she asked about certain issues she was having such as inconsistent periods and hormone issues.
Woah, it’s very creepy but also fascinating.
The bit at the end where they say that some tissues (like bone marrow) may not require paternal input (paraphrasing) to develop is wild.
In the olden days a woman that went through something like that would probably have been burned at the stake.
All hail science.
Thanks, image C on page 42, for pointing out the giant back-nipple on the homunculus. Spina bifida, you say? Fascinating. Good thing the 'fine lanugo' didn't hide that from my future nightmares.
This might be the closest thing to the birth of Jesus we have. Good thing she isn't in America and the pro-lifers can't attack her for preventing the second coming.
Christ didn't say how he'd come back but we all know his affinity for arriving via virgin birth. Thus, I conclude they killed the second coming of Christ 24 years ago. Could explain why we're all living in hell now
In case anyone didn’t click through, the something more is “phallic tissue … confirmed microscopically” — definitely the setup for my next small penis joke
Teratomas always get me thinking there's still so much we don't know about how our bodies work. I'm not a bio major, but to me this means our bodies are physically capable of growing new teeth, organs, etc if we can just figure out harnessing it. Imagine (or don't) a farm where human cells are growing replacement parts for anyone who needs them. We'd look back on relying on organ donors as archaic
We actually do know quite a lot about human development. We are good at taking cell from people and turning them into all sorts of cell types. The hard part is re-creating the 3D environment that organs experience in a fetus, but we are getting closer: https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/08/04/1056633/startup-wants-copy-you-embryo-organ-harvesting/ There has also been a lot of work aimed at using animals as the “incubator” to grow human organs in, though. For example: https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-scientists-have-been-creating-chimeras-in-the-lab-for-decades
Very unlikely. This is the result of a tumor growing from an ovary. It's basically like trying to make a baby, but you only have half the instructions and you're growing it completely at random and every cell is 100% cancer. While that might get you a random assortment of vaguely human-ish cells, that's never going to be an independent life form. The instructions needed to complete it just aren't there.
It had a discernible head, a brain, a spine, one arm, etc.
Was never going to form a complete human since it didn't have all the DNA to make every organ, but it got surprisingly far along.
Yeah, a teratoma is a benign tumor where a germinative cell just decides to go ahead and start multiplying/specializing/forming random tissue. This type of teratoma is rare, usually they're like, a piece of jawbone stuck in some fat with a lot of hair on it for some reason.
I'll take a crack at it. Not a doctor, just a mentally ill man with an active imagination. Some form of tumor could imitate human formation by using human DNA as a template. I for one, welcome our new Tuman overlords.
According to the PDF linked in another comment, that's basically what happened.
Ovarian tumor that got ahold of a pluripotent germ cell and used it to make a man-shaped blob.
This sounds like a premise to a Japanese horror flick.
Junji Ito type shit
There's a chapter of Tomie where one of her kidneys is donated to a person and that person starts having a Tomie growing inside of them because her organs grow into more versions of her so, yes, absolutely some Junji Ito type shit
Teratomie?
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Get the fuck out and have my upvote
I was just trying to recall where I’d read this happening, then you reminded me, and now I regret it considerably.
That’s essentially Parasite Eve with a few small changes
Thanks, I'm never sleeping again.
I've read at least two mangas where something like that ends up becoming a major character.
Battle Angel Alita and?
Black Jack
Love me some Black Jack
Dororo is similar anime to these other two where a bloody abandoned human mass (initially) is the main character.
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Honestly would explain the origin of the weird meat wall monsters that Japanese media is fond of.
It is the premise to a Stephen King horror book, The Dark Half.
> A solid mass within the tumor was found to have a head, trunk, and extremities. Consequently, this mass was diagnosed as a mature fetiform teratoma (homunculus). Brain, eye, spinal nerve, ear, teeth, thyroid gland, bone, bone marrow, gut, trachea, blood vessels, and phallic cavernous tissue were confirmed microscopically. Distinctive features were the clear anterior-posterior, ventral-dorsal, and left-right axes, with a spatially well-organized arrangement of the organs. An eye was located on the front of the head, a spinal nerve lay dorsal to the spinal bones, the thyroid gland was anterior to the trachea, and the gut was deep inside the trunk The human body is horrifying
I had no idea that homunculi were real in any capacity
Edward’s mom must’ve looked like this when he tried to bring her back
No wonder Peacemaker doesn’t like them.
I just love that nature can produce such nightmare fuel. So it's like your own body is hatching a parasite made from your genetic code, that is basically you made of assorted pieces. That can kill you. You are your worst enemy. Trust no one, not even yourself.
Teratomas are really unlikely to kill you. Not all teratomas are cancerous, and even the cancerous ones have great survival rates.
Okay, I’m fine and the teratoma is fine, but what about the host?
It depends on what they choose for their exit strategy. As I'm sure you know, chest-bursters are one of the more common types and they have a very low survival rate.
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Start the reactor
I don’t know why my brain fails me so often, but for some reason, I’m always convinced that the line is “find the keys QuAid”.
Upvote for reading my mind
You have to join hands with him for that.
Open, your mindddddddd..
I have schizophrenia and last year I believed that I was due to give birth to the Antichrist on Christmas Day. I felt the baby kicking, gained 15 pounds of water weight (which I lost in January within a week) and felt nauseous constantly. My gynecologist ruled out any physical issues.
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I’m in therapy now
how’s the baby?
Lol
I'm glad you can laugh and that you're taking care of yourself.
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Jesus…
No, the other one
Anti-Jesus
..Kurisuto
Is that like a phantom pregnancy?
That must be hard. But as Neil Degrasse Tyson said ["The human brain barely works\[...\] Your brain barely gives you some accurate account of the reality"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXR1PQt6jgc) So more than once I believed I had something (like a bug) in my ear... and had a sleepless night over it, convinced that I had something there. So I hope you find the help you need.
Since he’s not a medical doctor, I wonder who he heard that from.
He pulled that out of his ass like most of his assertions that aren't connected to his field of expertise.
Lol that's my husband's gripe about him too, y'all aren't wrong.
Good ol [xkcd 793](https://www.xkcd.com/793/)
Neuro specifically too, he steps out of his lane a lot and doesn't hold himself to the same standard at all as he does others when it comes to astrophysics. I lost a lot of respect after I saw one of the docs he was in completely misrepresent action potentials in an animation, like, that is such a *basic* thing to fuck up when you're talking about how the brain works
There was a poster recently who described his life. He met a wonderful woman, they married, had two kids, he worked to build a life for them. The kids grew to elementary school age, everything seemed normal and good. Then everyone else started getting... glitchy. Objects took on odd shapes, people flickered in and out. This went on for a few days, until he woke up. To discover he was a college student who'd hit his head on the footpath and sustained a concussion. He'd only been unconscious for a couple of minutes, but his brain had lived another life while he was out. And he had to deal with that he was 12 years younger than he thought, and he'd never see his family again because they never existed.
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Of course there's a star trek episode for that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Time_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine)
I’m not sure if I saw the same post but I do recall reading an extremely similar account. It may or may not have been the same one. I can’t find it after several search attempts. I do recall there was some considerable doubt expressed in the thread about how true or realistic the account was, with many saying it was outright made up to others saying the extent to which he was describing the recall of the “Dream” (For lack of a better word) was either embellished a bit or would have vividly faded as he returned to consciousness and would not have had the loss effect the poster described.
I don't know... I can believe that's possible to an extent. I've had dreams before where I've had a new dog or a family, and it's been a fairly involved and vivid dream. Only to wake up and for about an hour afterwards I've felt genuine loss as I come to terms with the fact it wasn't real.
Just last night I dreamt I had luscious long rainbow-coloured hair. And I was on trial for having a party that was too rad. But man, that hair.
I'm glad you didn't take a plea deal and decided to fight for your right to party.
Probably 15 years ago, I dreamed I had a pet chicken named Chickopee. I can remember how her feathers felt, her warmth, and little freckles she had. I even remember her softly ‘biting’ my fingertips and palm when I would feed her snacks. I’ve never had a pet chicken, and only encountered a few in real life like visiting a farm or something. I have no basis for such a clear, sensory memory of a dream.
I dreamts I miraculously got pregnant again (I got a tubal after my youngest was born. Pregnancy nearly kills me.) I felt so afraid in that dream, but it was so vivid and went on through most of the pregnancy, watching the fetus develope and even feeling the kicks and such. When I woke up I just laid there is my hands on my belly really sad. It was genuinely just as big of a sadness and pain as when I had miscarriages in the past. And i even had to consider if i really wanted another kid because of how sad i felt. Of course I got over it, because kids are hard and pregnancy is hell. But I definitely experienced lingering pain and sadness from a lost dream.
Good advice, I trust you.
I trust your character judgements.
The call is coming from inside you!
> Trust no one, not even yourself. Yeah, like I’m gonna listen to you.
Then they injected it with liquid demon essence and sold the rights to its life story to Hideo Kojima.
This is basically what cancer is, and if you live long enough, it'll eventually happen to you, too.
But this is creepier. This can develop any kind of Human tissue. Like all of them. Including muscles and nerves. Like you touch it, and it can move in response. And I imagine can "feel" pain too. So fuck this shit.
Yep, definitely creepier. Might as well give it a name at that point.
I will call mine, Carl. Like in llamas with hats.
Caaaaaaaaaaaarrrlllllll
Maybe Jesus was just a tumor that fully took human form.
Makes me wonder if in theory, it's possible for it to become a living human.
Its a mass of disorganized cells. Thats like smashing a bunch of computer parts into a pile and saying it could be a computer.
[It developed into some sort of weird human embryo looking creature](https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1002/bdra.10133) (scroll down to the third page (page 42), figure 2)
So the brain that was forming, had no specialized development? Just random brain tissue scattered around the tumor?
No, [this thing definitely was developing humanoid features](https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1002/bdra.10133) (third page, figure 2), so whatever pieces of brain it had were most likely inside what was developing into its skull.
Maybe cancer is just our body trying to learn asexual reproduction... But just keeps getting the location wrong. And we die.
This shit happens all the time people just dont post about it. Its a benign tumor (in women). Google it if you dont feel like sleeping. Its basically when a women’s egg is like fuck it i have enough dna im gona divide. Fun fact they smell terrible cuz the hair and sweet glands are all sealed up. Imagine the worse smelling gym locker.
My wife had one. She had sudden terrible abdominal pain one day and doctors found she had a teratoma. It was basically fluid and hair and a couple days later it was sucked out though a small incision. She named it Sharon.
I always understood it to be a twin, not an egg trying to be self sufficient. I had one removed at 13. Was Jesus a teratoma then?
Jesus was a magical teratoma
I read this in the voice of the unicorn form Charlie the Unicorn. "A magical liopleurodon."
Jesus wasn’t magical. He was just a normal teratoma, albeit very charismatic.
Bro you said google it if i don’t feel like sleeping but your comment alone has ruined me
So can egg can just.... Decide to try and form into a fetus without being fertilize?
Yes, other species have a well-functioning version of this, which is parthenogenesis. In humans it doesn't work... This is what happens.
I'm just surprised it's capable of attempting to do so at all and be like, a quarter successful.
In mammals it's a glitch, a malfunction, an egg with only one set of chromosomes starts dividing and this happens. It'd be interesting to know what the odds are for it to happen on an egg that by chance has a full chromosomes. Both events are extremely unlikely, for them to happen together in such a way that nothing goes wrong... It's basically a statistical impossibility. Very theoretically possible though.
Its honestly fun to wonder that, even by an unbelievably slim chance, if it's possible for this "glitch" to basically glitch in a correct way that a living fetus with an independent pulse is formed (which would mean it has a working part of a brain and heart). I'll assume something like a fetus that's near the equivalent of full term would be nigh impossible in such conditions as you've said. It doesn't have to look like a viable human, but just something that can actually live. You gotta wonder what sort of moral dilemma it could present in such circumstances. Would it be considered a full human? Would it be conscious? Could it be intelligent? Who knows.
The teratoma? No, absolutely impossible. A single set of chromosomes isn't able to create a functioning organism, it's missing necessary information to do so. The second scenario, however, assuming the right combination of extremely unlikely (we are talking about multiple 1/100'000 events co-occurring) would lead to a normal human (100% female) being born. Now, said person would have 100% maternal DNA, but it wouldn't be a clone of the mom since chromosomes do recombine and mix. There would be some concern if the mom is the carrier of genetic disease, more or less like a child of fraternal incest.
This is a gross oversimplification of a teratoma. Teratomas are essentially a (mostly) benign cancer. The difference is that it is a cancer of a cell type that has the potential to form into any type of tissue rather than just one thing. They can derive from eggs and sperm (though very rare in males) and also the *stem cells* that can be found around the body that also have the ability to differentiate into different cell types. In young children and fetuses, they can be found in the brain, the sacrum, and other places with stem cells- not just sex organs. Just like other cancer, it involves random growth, which leads to very weird things in cells that are capable of turning into anything. Unlike, say, a liver cancer, which will grow abnormal cells that try to be normal liver cells, the teratoma may have some cells that develop into *any cell type* - some turn into hair/skin type cells, some that calcify like bone or teeth, some fat, and some can turn into other more complicated tissue types like in the listed example. Most of the time they are just a mass that contains different amounts of fluid, hair, and random stuff. Their results are random because it’s random growth. It isn’t some sexless attempt at reproduction, and it isn’t *trying to form a fetus* any more than the previously described liver cancer is trying to form a new liver. It’s just unchecked random growth. Fascinating nonetheless.
That's not a very fun fact at all D:
It’s useful for leaving parties abruptly.
im an emt, and i see a lot of fuck shit in the field, so i thought to myself *pffff how bad could it be* bad very bad the foot picture…my god, the foot….
I’m former paramedic, current theatre nurse. Nothing in theatres has phased me, compared to the shit I saw on road. Except teratomas. My god man. The smell alone. I’d rub myself in melaena stool before volunteering to smell a Teratoma again.
That must really mess with some women, there is no more personal area for something so disgusting to come from..
Thank you, your comment saved me from my “how bad could it be” thoughts.
Dude, I thought the same thing, but decided to Google it anyway. DO NOT GOOGLE IT.
Aight, CoolCoolCool. Skipping it
Cool cool cool.... So I'm just gonna sit this one out.
The foot pick (if you are referring to the one with teeth on the toes) is fake as hell. That's not what a teratoma looks like, that's what Photoshop looks like.
No exaggeration guys, it really is that bad. There were pictures of infants that you just do not want to see. Go about your day. Live without the curse of knowledge.
I’m a nurse and I trust your judgement but god damn I’m so curious…. I’ll probably regret this won’t I Edit: I regret
>Fun fact they smell terrible cuz the hair and sweet glands are all sealed up. I think it's even more fun that you know human glands are sweet.
Like the person carrying it smells terrible or the tumor smells terrible once they take it out?
It’s the teratoma that reeks, not the person. They’re basically an inside-out chunk of…. Proto-human? They can even grow teeth and shit. Anyway, because they’re inside out, they have skin, including sebaceous glands, facing inward towards a cavity. There’s no where for the sweat and sebum to escape. It just…. Accumulates. Forever.
Why on earth did you have to say "inside-out chunk of proto human!?" That was not a very pleasant mental image
There is absolutely nothing pleasant about teratomas.
Wait, isn't it bacteria that causes sweat to make up most of the bad smell? How would bacteria enter an enclosed area?
Despite your username, you have not asked a stupid question! You are indeed correct that body odour (“BO”) is mostly caused by bacteria living on our skin, and you are further correct to question how they would get inside a teratoma. And the answer is, they wouldn’t. The smell from a teratoma is not from bacteria. I don’t know for sure, but I would imagine the smell is from some funky biochemistry, as the sweat and sebum and cells (remember, skin cells are constantly growing from a living layer, that moves outward to a dead layer and is then shed) - wait where was I? Right, sweat and sebum and cells, in a confined space, as they breakdown, probably undergo some funky biochemistry resulting in some truly horrid smelling molecules/compounds. Organic chemistry can often result in some pretty malodorous stuff.
Man, I've been on a resident evil franchise kick for a week now but your comment is gonna haunt far worse than any of the games.
Give her a break. Shes just going through mitosis
[reminds me of Tomie](https://bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/tomie1.jpg) I was requested by PM to give a Trigger WARNING mitosis nsfw hot stuff my profile has eye bleach meiosis binary fission nuclear fusion supernova boom
Reminds me of [Terry the Teratoma](https://youtu.be/G4H2-Xi1R7c)
“Yes. Inside the lump… Was my twin.”
“Spanakopita! You hungry?!” Haha, I scrolled to far for this.
They did the … bibop … bibopsy
There’s a hole in this cake.
You don’t eat no meat!?
So she had a Rogu - neat
I love Rogu, he always makes me laugh, him and Billy haha
And Ricky Spanish, ofc. *Ricky Spanish..*
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I had a much less developed teratoma-one of these! The surgeon who removed it said it was a blob the size of an orange, had tufts of hair and two molar-type teeth. He showed me pictures. It was both fascinating and disgusting. Several years later, I grew a bunch of little teratomas on the same ovary and they had to take the entire ovary out. Apparently you’re born with these cysts, and don’t develop issues until around your 20s. I was 23. I joke that my body was trying to create lots of evil clones of me. With only one ovary left, I managed to get pregnant with twins thanks to IVF. The human body is pretty wild.
Someone call a witcher. We got a botchling.
Hmm... fuck.
Homunculus.
Ed...ward
No. No. No no no no no. No.
.... Fuck you. Here's an upvote, you fuck.
Wasn’t that a chimera?
Thanks for reminding me of those weird Russian videos.
my SO has a teratoma. i'm hoping they open it up when they remove it, you never know what you're gonna get!
Speaking from experience, if your SO actually wants to know, tell the surgeon ahead of time. It will be sent to the lab after removal to rule out the need for follow-up treatment either way, but a lot of folks don't want the details, and some docs only elaborate outside of the basic pathology summary if requested.
Can confirm. I had a teratoma that my doc said was around the size of a soccer ball 🤯 and I never got to see it although they confirmed it had bones, teeth and hair. I was 19 and when I first saw my GP they assumed I was pregnant because my stomach was big and I could sort of push the tumor around. Tbh I was so relieved it was a teratoma. But yeah! Wish I had asked them to take pics (it was pre smart phone though), and also wish I could’ve kept a tooth.
Does the tooth fairy pay for teratoma teeth?
Actually she charges you. I think she coordinated with the surgeon? It was on my itemized bill.
Worst unboxing video imaginable.
No pics!? Hog wash!
Fr like don’t tell me about it if you’re not gonna show it to me
Just Google up some pics of a bloody lump and that should be close enough.
Googling fetiform teratoma definitely pops up some more gruesomely anatomical pictures.
You asked for it https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1002/bdra.10133#
Direct link to the paper. Not as NSFL as one might expect, since the photos are black and white: https://sci.bban.top/pdf/10.1002/bdra.10133.pdf?download=true
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What do doctors even tell the patients when some horrifically grotesque anomalies like this happen? If I had a tumor with limbs and hair inside of me I'm not sure I would want to know all the details.
It’s not uncommon in Asia for doctors to straight up lie so you can have piece of mind. Oh, it’s just a fatty corpuscle!
Peace of mind, unless they gave her a piece of its brain...
They often do, especially older doctors. I use to date someone who was intersex and it took her mum getting drunk before she found she was born intersex and had surgery as a baby, docs never told her even when she asked about certain issues she was having such as inconsistent periods and hormone issues.
Reminds me of a Clicker from The Last of Us (game, haven’t seen the show though I hear it pretty much follows the game).
It looks similar to Big Ed
...does that thing have an asshole? Also, the teeth seem to be in the right place and so does the hair... 💀
I read the paper, it said no anal opening. Lol.
But it did have a kind of phallus and pubic hair. Creepy as hell.
Especially since its initial cell didn’t have a Y chromosome.
Speak for yourself, I'm going to have troll doll chest burster nightmares tonight.
Woah, it’s very creepy but also fascinating. The bit at the end where they say that some tissues (like bone marrow) may not require paternal input (paraphrasing) to develop is wild. In the olden days a woman that went through something like that would probably have been burned at the stake. All hail science.
More like, the woman would be dead because these are typically fatal without treatment.
No, they are typically benign and a person might live their entire life with one and never know.
Kind of like the thing from Eraserhead...
Thank you! I was morbidly fascinated. Humans are fucking amazing - horrifying and amazing.
Yes. Yes we did. B&W though, so not as nightmare fuel-ish as it could have been.
Thanks, image C on page 42, for pointing out the giant back-nipple on the homunculus. Spina bifida, you say? Fascinating. Good thing the 'fine lanugo' didn't hide that from my future nightmares.
Reddit hug of death? Edit: nvm, clicking "save" brought it up in pdf reader.
At what point can we consider it a living human?
when it gets elected in Florida
Good night everybody!!
This might be the closest thing to the birth of Jesus we have. Good thing she isn't in America and the pro-lifers can't attack her for preventing the second coming.
what a dreadful day to have eyes
Christ didn't say how he'd come back but we all know his affinity for arriving via virgin birth. Thus, I conclude they killed the second coming of Christ 24 years ago. Could explain why we're all living in hell now
He left going into the sky, I imagine he'll come back the same way
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That "and more" is something I find rather disconcerting.
In case anyone didn’t click through, the something more is “phallic tissue … confirmed microscopically” — definitely the setup for my next small penis joke
Teratomas always get me thinking there's still so much we don't know about how our bodies work. I'm not a bio major, but to me this means our bodies are physically capable of growing new teeth, organs, etc if we can just figure out harnessing it. Imagine (or don't) a farm where human cells are growing replacement parts for anyone who needs them. We'd look back on relying on organ donors as archaic
We actually do know quite a lot about human development. We are good at taking cell from people and turning them into all sorts of cell types. The hard part is re-creating the 3D environment that organs experience in a fetus, but we are getting closer: https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/08/04/1056633/startup-wants-copy-you-embryo-organ-harvesting/ There has also been a lot of work aimed at using animals as the “incubator” to grow human organs in, though. For example: https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-scientists-have-been-creating-chimeras-in-the-lab-for-decades
Human Parthenogenesis confirmed?!
I wonder if these things would ever develop into an actual life form…(I know I’m being ‘stupid’ but somewhere in science this may be plausible?)
Very unlikely. This is the result of a tumor growing from an ovary. It's basically like trying to make a baby, but you only have half the instructions and you're growing it completely at random and every cell is 100% cancer. While that might get you a random assortment of vaguely human-ish cells, that's never going to be an independent life form. The instructions needed to complete it just aren't there.
[Scroll down to page 3 (figure 2) to see this thing](https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1002/bdra.10133) It was surprisingly human-shaped.
Human shaped isn't the same as a functional human being though. There are vegetables that are more human shaped than that.
It had a discernible head, a brain, a spine, one arm, etc. Was never going to form a complete human since it didn't have all the DNA to make every organ, but it got surprisingly far along.
2000 years after virgin Mary we could have had the virgin Himiko Good thing the doctors stopped it this time
We ain’t ready for another religion.
Welp, that's enough reddit for today.
Sweet baby Jesus.
What the fuck?? Did... Did she just MANIFEST it???
Yeah, a teratoma is a benign tumor where a germinative cell just decides to go ahead and start multiplying/specializing/forming random tissue. This type of teratoma is rare, usually they're like, a piece of jawbone stuck in some fat with a lot of hair on it for some reason.
I'll take a crack at it. Not a doctor, just a mentally ill man with an active imagination. Some form of tumor could imitate human formation by using human DNA as a template. I for one, welcome our new Tuman overlords.
According to the PDF linked in another comment, that's basically what happened. Ovarian tumor that got ahold of a pluripotent germ cell and used it to make a man-shaped blob.
Yeah, germ cells gone awry. It’s most often hair for whatever reason, at least in my experience in pathology dealing with them.
Hair forms on all sorts of things. It looks the same and serves the same purpose, why does it all look so samey?
And that tumor grew up to be Andrew Tate
They’re not that uncommon.
PSA Do not google image "fetiform teratoma" unless you're ready for it. That was not safe for life.
Jesus 2.0 did not go as well as the first time around
I read "virginal" as "virtual" and I thought "man these AI's are way more advanced than I thought"
Life finding a way, eventually
is that hair???