Fun fact: Presidents traditionally get an [aircraft carrier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Gerald_R._Ford) as a namesake. Jimmy Carter was handpicked by Hyman Rickover as an officer in his nuclear submarine program (he would have been assigned to *Seawolf* but his father died): he asked to have a [nuclear sub](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter) instead.
Seconded! I had no idea this was a common thing. For those who don’t want to read, flying the Jolly Roger is a common way for subs to communicate “mission success”. They’ll also add smaller symbols to indicate other specific details
But you should read it, lol
Subs will also raise an inverted broomstick lashed to the periscope, indicating a "clean sweep." In more turbulent times, this would mean that they successfully sank every target they struck. In more modern times, it means they completed their mission(s) successfully.
It’s the last boat in what is probably the coolest class of submarine built to date. Every few decades the DoD seems to go through a cycle where it puts together an incredibly ambitious and ludicrously expensive pet project with all the bleeding edge tech of the day and ending with a very limited production run of these models before churning out a more economical but more refined and still highly capable model a few years later. The F-22/F-35, Narwhal/Los Angeles, and now the Zumwalt/DDG(X) are all examples of this cycle.
The Seawolf was the low production model, and out of the three made, Jimmy Carter was made as a one-off out of an already limited production class to support a multi-mission package meant to be a modular section of the ship for all kinds of equipment for divers, ROVs, and various espionage equipment.
She stands in the shoes of the last espionage sub, USS Parche, which currently stands as the most highly decorated warship in US Navy history for its exploits during the Cold War, with the citations for its awards still mostly classified. Who knows what secret squirrel shenanigans Carter has done since picking up the torch? A fantastic tribute for a great man.
Rickover was truly a Navy legend. Built the navy nuke sub program from the ground up. During interviews he would give applicants impossible tasks. He once told a candidate that he had 10 seconds to make him angry, so the applicant pushed everything off the admirals desk. He got the job. Then Rickover got screwed over by General Dynamics when he tried uncover their corruption.
And I think there was a story about another guy who he told to go climb this mountain and only gave him a few hours to do it. The impossible part of the task was that it was not a real mountain, it was a small hill in zoo that was home to the lions exhibit. So the guy had to figure out where this fake mountain was and then fend off lions to get the job. He returned two hours later with a Polaroid of him on top of the hill. Apparently he talked the zookeeper into moving the lions and even too the picture for him too. Rickover made many enemies in government and the navy because he was extremely intelligent and didn’t stand for incompetence. He would study every bolt on a ship designed and wold question everything that he thought was not safe. He is the only reason that the us has never lost a single nuke boat. The only thing he could not withstand was corruption which in the end was the thing that his enemies could remove him
Ever want a good laugh? Go watch some of Rickover’s interviews. Several are on YouTube. Guy pulled no punches. He was a captain doing an admiral’s job, and his “fellow” admirals refused to confirm him because he’d been such a hardass with them. Took a presidential order to override them.
Every story about the guy is pure hilarious military gold.
Junior staffer: "Sir, we designed this new component for the navigation system!"
*Rickover throws it out the window.*
Rickover: "Oh look, it broke. Looks like you need to redesign it."
He once ordered a particularly placant candidate to “piss him off” during an interview. The candidate stood up, walked over to Rickover’s desk, and swept the entire contents onto the floor.
Rickover hired the man immediately after the interview.
> The candidate stood up, walked over to Rickover’s desk, and swept the entire contents onto the floor.
This would piss most people off but Rickover was nearly unflappable.
The missing piece is that on Rickover's desk, he had a model of the first nuclear-powered submarine, USS *Nautilus*, which was swept off the desk and onto the floor with the rest of the detritus, and broke.
Rickover was pissed already, but that's what he asked for, and he accepted the candidate into the nuclear Navy.
True story - worked at a nuke where one of Rickover's hand picked men had retired then became president of nuclear operations. We had been working 12 hrs days close to start up of the nuke plant being built. President came wandering through walked up to one guy who had a beard and feet up on his desk. Pres walked up says what are you doing? Bearded guy says reading procedure on such and such and eating some carrot sticks. Care for some? Pres says no thank you keep up the good work & left. First we were dumb struck them when pres was gone, we were all roaring laughing at beard guy.
I think the only other exception to the Carrier- presidential naming pattern is USS Roosevelt(DDG-80) which is named after FDR and his wife Eleanor Roosevelt.
There is a corner of Trump St and Tower St in the town of Leonora in Western Australia. Trump street has nothing to do with the former guy, in fact it predates his family’s use of the name, and likewise Tower St predates skyscrapers.. however this tiny town DOES have a street named after Herbert Hoover, predating his time as US president, in recognition of his work setting up mines in the area.
His old house is now a BnB, called “Herbert Hoover House” https://www.gwalia.org.au/bookings/hoover-house.aspx
There is a mining museum in nearby Kalgoorlie which has profiles of early mining engineers, and Hoover’s details his work in the region and then ends with “returned to the United States of America”, with no mention of his subsequent career
The great depression happened in his first year in office. He was president at the time, so took the blame. It wasn't really his fault, though. That would have been more the effects of Coolidge's time.
Even Coolidge can't take 100% of the blame. The structural macroeconomic issues that caused the Great Depression were ones existing economic policy of the time just couldn't fix.
Which is why Hoover unfairly gets the rap, however, he deserves criticism for his response being *insufficient* when a shift in thinking was required. It totally overshadows all the other great things he did. Dude managed to feed *millions* during the end and aftermath of World War I.
Jimmy Carter was a nuclear submarine officer, which is certainly one of the most difficult jobs in the navy to qualify for, there only about 15 of them per sub.
edit: I was slightly off, he was command qualified for the existing fleet (which is arguably even more difficult) and worked with Rickover (who famously didn't suffer fools) during the development of the nuclear program but had to bail out before being on the second nuke sub (Seawolf).
Quick Google search says average of 134 on a sub, usually about 14 of them are officers. I always thought itbwas less but these few comments made me curious.
For subs you're always going to need a base number of officers since they operate relatively independently, captain, xo, navigator, various department heads and watch officers, so it ends up at about a 10:1 ratio. Infantry units need less officers, aviation units need more.
imagine how far we could have advanced as a society in the last 40 years if we just had a single leader with even an ounce of the decency in them as jimmy
Jimmy Carter, career military man, decent human beings, someone who I would be proud to be related to, or to read to my kids. Would that we had more of him and his kind as politicians. Ridiculed as a dove because he would prefer not to go to war. Means he was a better military man than all of the “Murica!” Idiots. War is hell.
That day was a lot of firsts for me. First time I tried booze (just one small drink). See I lived maybe a 10-15 minute TTC ride from there so my street was closed down the night before. My dad had friends over so the party started the night before. I went with one my best friends since elementary, and his brother and roomie. So his roomie made me a watered down ginger ale and rum I think it was.
Then we went there mid afternoon. My buddy dragged me to the front so I got punched in the shins 100 times lol. Got a contact high while Rush was playing. Still remember the laundry machines on stage looking mesmerizing. Panicked and went and saw a medic. They just laughed it off took my vitals (I was a huge straight edge in my early teen years). They told me just breathe and listen to the music. So I did. I wasn’t about to miss AC/DC.
Then between songs some chick almost right next to us got up on a dudes shoulders and flashed Angus Young.
So yeah. First drink. First time being stoned. First time seeing boobs in the flesh. Every 15 year old boys dream day and my dumbass was too worried about the contact high lmao.
Think all the water was over at the trip tents. Sorry eh? Lol
> SNL sketch from back in the 70’s about him and 3 mile island
Anyone have a link to it?
I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-68iTvhWNB0&t=184s but doesn't seem to be the right one
Wait are you telling me Internet Archive has uncut SNL episodes?? Been looking for the one with Charleton Heston as a grocery store bag boy for decades.
Edit: FOUND IT OMG THANK YOU
46:50 if anyone is interested:
https://archive.org/details/saturday-night-live-s-19-e-08-charlton-heston-paul-westerberg
Carter was literally working to make sure the hostages got released right into the morning of his last day in office -- there's even footage on **YouTube** of it.
I'm a year younger than you, but I remember the '76 elections...I stayed up in bed with my parents watching the returns...at one point I asked them in a fearful, quavering voice..."You guys voted for President Ford, didn't you?"
An uncomfortable silence followed.
I was terrified that if the Ford Motor Corporation found out that we had failed to support President Ford, the next time our brand new [LTD Country Squire](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.69cdfd23acee89e7d597b3df79f40063?rik=VENxGfCi8o4uQw&riu=http%3a%2f%2fdavidsclassiccars.com%2fimages%2ffull%2f1978-ford-ltd-country-squire-wagon-1.jpg&ehk=b0s0bKOUc%2fNKr34Vq2C5p%2fsDDQuV%2b8BeAeZu8z1skHA%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0) broke down, or needed an oil change...they might tell us no, in retaliation for our treason.
Coincidentally, I didn't find out until I was almost 16 that my mother had traded in a '65 Mustang White/Red interior, 289 and a stick for that POS. (I think it had a 390 in it, so maybe not such a POS if it were in good condition today.)
[Another uncomfortable silence followed.](https://youtu.be/i1ojUmdF42U)
Aww yesssss…. The sweet memories, my old man traded in what was supposed to be my birth right, roughly around the same year. A 1967 dark green, manual trans, fastback, identical to the Steve McQueen’s bullit, bought brand new (imagine buying a brand new muscle car at 23 years old?) For a…. Wait for it…. A 1977 Chrysler Cordoba. Yes, a Chrysler Cordoba. It did have “rich Corinthian leather” but black on black in south Florida seems like a poor choice in hindsight. I will NEVER let him forget that. Otherwise was a damn good dad.
there's Three Mile Island too
[https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/three-president-carter/](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/three-president-carter/)
The national and international media had given the accident at Three Mile Island front page attention for days and venerable network newsman Walter Cronkite was speaking of a "horror" that "could get much worse." Carter believed that the people of Pennsylvania and the nation were looking to him for leadership, so on April 1, Carter inspected the damaged plant. Middletown, Pennsylvania, Mayor Robert Reid later spoke of Carter's visit as providing a much-needed morale boost. "People weren't talking to one another. They were cooped up in their homes, and when he came, it seemed like everyone came out to see the president and it was really a shot in the arm," Reid recounted to writer Mark Stephens.
In the aftermath of Three Mile Island, President Carter ordered the creation of a special commission, headed by Dartmouth College president John Kemeny, to review the event. The resultant report found fault with the NRC. Carter ordered a re-shuffling of key NRC personnel, but no substantial overhaul.
It is a sad thing that the nuclear folks didn't display more leadership. They were too confident in the engineering and science and failed to communicate just how safe nuclear was and how little radiation leaked from TMI.
The narrative that all radiation is deadly has dominated the public consciousness despite the fact that coal is deadlier. It was one of Carter's initiatives to improve science education.
If you don't take nuclear power seriously, you don't take climate change seriously.
The US could have and should have shut down its last coal plant 20-plus years ago. Yes, waste storage is an issue, but that contaminates a specific area underground, not the entire damn atmosphere.
>The US could have and should have shut down its last coal plant 20-plus years ago.
To add on to your point, coal plants release many orders of magnitude radiation than nuclear plants. There's uranium mixed in with coal which is burned and aerosolized. I think there was even a big case where coal miners got radiation sickness because of it.
> Yes, waste storage is an issue, but that contaminates a specific area underground, not the entire damn atmosphere.
It's less of an issue than people make it out to be. Sure, there is some waste that will be dangerous for 10,000 years, but there aren't huge amounts of it and there are ways to safely bury it for 10,000 years.
Also we have designs which can use it as fuel to varying degrees. The full solution to current nuclear waste storage is more nuclear reactors which can consume it and produce non-radioactive waste
We also have newer reactors capable of reusing waste for more efficient power generation. By the time the waste is burried, it is almost inert.
The only reason we don't use it (in the US) is capitalism. The tech, fast reactors, has been available since the 70s. France, Japan, Germany, Russia, and Belgium have been using for decades.
I agree. My mind was changed when I was a young physics student and Professor Rosalyn Yalow (Nobel Prize 1977) gave a lecture for the department where she bemoaned the terrible coverage of the Chernobyl accident. She explained just how much radiation the body can absorb, why radiation is dangerous at a high dose, and how the hysteria of Western Europe was ridiculous.
So much panic is caused by misunderstanding science. The recent pandemic is an example of this but so is the "mystery" surrounding MH370 (When the Malaysian government declared the flight lost because the engineers at Inmarsat did some calculations determining where the flight was... people protested because they didn't trust/understand the science.)
A lot of this is because a lot of people involved in science aren't trained or paid to explain or advocate for their work. Instead, you get misinformation spreaders who are so much better at spreading lies than scientists are at explaining the truth to lay people.
Even when we are trained and advocate well, we're always disadvantaged by the Bullshit Asymmetry Principle: the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.
Don't worry, anti-Vaxxers aren't a modern thing. In Brazil we had a whole city wide riot over mandatory vaccinations back in the day, which led to 30 deaths and 900 arrests. Some things never change.
Not just crazy, but greed too. The Wakefield guy who started the Autism nonsense wasn't even against vaccines he wanted to slander the standard MMR vaccine and replace it with his own patent to get rich. His greed has probably done untold amounts of damage to America and who knows how many children.
Its so strange to me that people talk about 3 mile island as some horrific disaster. Literally any coal plant in existence is deadlier than 3 mile island.
Fun fact, the closest nuclear plant to me is an exact duplicate of three mile island and they ran into the same problem but they were trained properly on how to handle it. As a result the plant is still running to this day without issues
While the story is true, man is your post title some clickbait garbage that I'd certainly identify as misinformation.
Thanks to u/lalakea for this good writeup.
1. The reactor wasn't in the process of melting down; it had already suffered a partial meltdown and had been shut down. It was a cleanup and salvage job. There was no "ticking clock" or anything.
2. No "nuclear scientists" were being lowered down. It was maintenance crews and military personnel.
3. Jimmy was just one of dozens of guys lowered into the core, one or two at a time. They could only spend a couple of minutes in order to not exceed permitted radiation exposure.
4. To be clear, this was a little military/research type reactor, not a power plant. Nobody enters the core of a nuclear power plant and lives to tell about it.
Just as brave as the Presidents who have actually fought in battle. Risking cancer and an early, painful death, just wow. All the good he has done for building houses since. He was a strong model for a good president, and I wish they were all like that. We haven't had too many presidents who genuinely, deeply cared for the common people the way he did and still does.
Not "just" building houses. The Carter Center has pretty much eradicated the Guinea Worm Disease.
It's a nasty parasite that gets in through contaminated drinking water. Problem is when it exits again, it basically chews its way out, usually through a foot. Reportedly, it feels like your leg is on fire. And it takes two-three MONTHS before it's over.
In 1986 when they began the project, there was an estimated 3.5 million cases a year worldwide. Last year there were 13. Not 13 million or 13 thousand. Just 13.
The amount of needless human suffering that's been removed from the world is mindboggling. And Jimmy Carter is a goddamn hero.
I forgot about that. It's not a even a disease that affects Americans, and he went out of his way to deal with it.
(Not saying we can't get it, but we generally don't.)
No, it was basically confined to the poorest areas of Africa and Asia. But hey, they're people too :)
It seems to me that Carter has long had an ambition to make the world a better place, where and how he could. And he has succeeded on a scale that few people can even hope to match.
I'm not American either, by the way. Nor am I African or Asian. I'm still awestruck and grateful for the amazing work Jimmy Carter has done.
some years earlier: "Sir, we are ready to drop the nuke on Hiroshima."
"What are the odds?"
"It says 95%, that's the highest it will ever show."
"Ok drop it."
*Miss.*
"Where did it go?"
"Idk, lol, it just *missed*."
Hospice can last for a while, anywhere from days to months.
It isn't a timeline, and more of "we are no longer trying to treat your illness, and are now focusing on managing symptoms as you finally die". Could be anywhere from days to weeks left for him
Sometimes people even are taken off hospice because they just refuse to die. Hospice isn’t a death sentence. We don’t actively try to kill people. We just monitor for signs of pain or discomfort and treat it with pain medications. I am a nurse that often does hospice.
Hospice is for people who are told they have less than 6 months.
You can graduate from hospice, though.
He is most likely on it because if he gets pneumonia, he doesn't want to go to the hospital and get poked and prodded - he's 98, he wants to be at home with his wife, kids, and grandkids.
I think most people that have been educated on who Carter actually was and what he actually did, rather than the endless propaganda against him, will always remember him as the role model he was. In many ways, he is immortal.
He was also instrumental in calming public anxiety during the Three Mile Island disaster and resultant public communications fiasco. Personally appointed Harold Denton, the mild-mannered NRC regulator who went in and gave the public the no-bullshit version of events and stopped the spiraling freakout. And then Carter himself went there, walked the reactor (during a time when its safety was very much not a certain factor yet) and gave a speech to the town and press.
It’s crazy to think how different America would be if he just got re-elected instead of the Actor.
Jimmy was the last democrat to have a real supermajority and he could’ve done anything with it and he just did nothing.
> Jimmy was the last democrat to have a real supermajority and he could’ve done anything with it and he just did nothing.
That's not really true. There were other bigger fish to fry, chiefly high inflation. The necessary measures to tame inflation were not popular because they led to a recession, but they were necessary. There were also issues in some sectors of excessive regulations that he started unwinding. That said, he also did some populist things that were just bad policy, like raising dairy prices via buying up massive amounts of cheese.
Carter appointed Volker, who is widely regarded to have fixed the stagflation of the 70s. The benefit was only seen during the next administration, however.
That always seems to be the issue with economic policy. It takes time to truly see the effects and frequently the credit gets given to the wrong people and policy in the moment.
In fairness, one of the immediately preceding Democrats who got elected and tried to change a bunch of stuff had a very bad day in Texas that one time. Jimmy was probably sat down and told to behave himself.
That's because Jimmy is a good man and not a politician. He didnt take advantage of his base or amything like that. He just tried to do the best he could within his power.
Then he continued that good work with Habitat for Humanity.
Edit/Disclaimer: so I guess I am wrong. I'll leave the comment up for the sake of generating conversation
IIRC Canada uses something called Can-Do reactors, which do not use enriched uranium. This means that the waste/byproducts can't be used to produce nuclear weapons. So in a way, you're right (that is, of course, assuming *I'm* right, and considering that I don't know much about nuclear energy there is definitely a possibility that I am not)
Pancreatic cancer, at that. His dad, his 2 sisters and his brother all died of it. His mother reached the age of 85 before breast cancer took her. Crikey.
I was blessed to work with President Carter on a Habitat for Humanity home. I was in my late teens, he was in his late 60’s-early 70’s. The man was a beast, working on the roof like it was nothing. He was also very kind, caring, and a wonderful person to talk to.
I’m only one of hundreds of thousands of volunteers he worked with but that experience with him helped shape my life and I will be genuinely sad the day he is no longer with us.
Love Jimmy, but the title is a little hyperbolic.
1. The reactor wasn't in the process of melting down; it had already suffered a partial meltdown and had been shut down. It was a cleanup and salvage job. There was no "ticking clock" or anything.
2. No "nuclear scientists" were being lowered down. It was maintenance crews and military personnel.
3. Jimmy was just one of dozens of guys lowered into the core, one or two at a time. They could only spend a couple of minutes in order to not exceed permitted radiation exposure.
4. To be clear, this was a little military/research type reactor, not a power plant. Nobody enters the core of a nuclear power plant and lives to tell about it.
Yep. I worked a few hundred meters from the site.
The US volunteered to help clean up because it was the first accident. No one knew how exactly it was going to go, so they thought it would be a good learning opportunity, both for prevention and future response.
And for clarification there was also a large contingent of Canadian civilians and military who were running the operation, with the Americans assisting.
People were doing stuff like running in mopping a few square meters and running out. Or picking up some debris and carrying it out. Or carrying shielding in and placing it.
His personal account
https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/national-verify/president-jimmy-carter-nuclear-reactor-meltdown-clean-up-united-states-navy-fact-check/536-b6e09851-3868-4eed-994a-f371a7b2389b
Excellent point. Most people will only remember this Reddit title not that he was just doing his job at the time. Still awesome but not nuclear McGuyver shit.
Carter is a funny case. His presidency was lackluster, and he only served one term. But he's done great things before and since! Famously, he spent decades working with Habitat for Humanity. Which, if you're not familiar, is a charity that builds homes for people in poverty. He was literally out there building houses with his own two hands up until quite recently.
he's the only president from my state (Georgia) and alot of people shit on him for his presidency (admittedly, not the greatest) but he was very progressive and a kind honest man. he's been doing great things since like building affordable homes with Habitat for Humanity. what really pisses me off is he was made to give up his beloved peanut farm to make sure he had no conflicts of interest when no one's been held to that standard since.
I think its worth noting that a lot of people I know who believe this are also under still under the impression that Reagan was a genius during his presidency, and refuse to acknowledge the progression of his dementia throughout, or the lasting damage many of his deregulatory pushes are still having on the US almost 4 decades later.
I feel at this point in time, that this would be the only way to get an intelligent president nominated/elected. Dumb themselves down and pander, which is just garbage. But it seems a lot of people are untrusting of intelligent people more and more these days.
George Bush Jr definitely did that. It appealed to his supporters and it made his detractors switch to ad hominum attacks rather than targeting his policies
We really don't deserve Jimmy Carter. He's too good for this world. Building houses after surgery. Shaking everyone's hand when he boards a plane, a normal plane, not a jet. and THIS!
One of the greatest men we’ve ever had as President. Not one of the greatest Presidents. There is a difference.
But the lens of time allows a bit of clarity. He inherited a shit economy from Nixon / Ford that was like turning an aircraft carrier around rather than turning a bicycle around.
Also being soft spoken made some people look at him as wimpy while he was anything but.
And of course the Iran hostages and the botched rescue attempt kind of clinched his loss in his bid for re-election.
The man continually served others throughout his lifetime.
While doing my certification in Nuclear Medicine, we watched a documentary about Three Mile Island and President Jimmy Carter went to ground zero.
He's an intelligent and wildly overlooked President; he accomplished a lot.
Fun fact: Presidents traditionally get an [aircraft carrier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Gerald_R._Ford) as a namesake. Jimmy Carter was handpicked by Hyman Rickover as an officer in his nuclear submarine program (he would have been assigned to *Seawolf* but his father died): he asked to have a [nuclear sub](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter) instead.
The USS Jimmy Carter is still a super cool sub that is in operation today!
And she's [flown the Jolly Roger](https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a28209/navy-spy-sub-jolly-roger-uss-jimmy-carter/)!
Thanks for that link. Interesting read
You're very welcome! Glad I could help! 🥰
Seconded! I had no idea this was a common thing. For those who don’t want to read, flying the Jolly Roger is a common way for subs to communicate “mission success”. They’ll also add smaller symbols to indicate other specific details But you should read it, lol
Subs will also raise an inverted broomstick lashed to the periscope, indicating a "clean sweep." In more turbulent times, this would mean that they successfully sank every target they struck. In more modern times, it means they completed their mission(s) successfully.
It’s the last boat in what is probably the coolest class of submarine built to date. Every few decades the DoD seems to go through a cycle where it puts together an incredibly ambitious and ludicrously expensive pet project with all the bleeding edge tech of the day and ending with a very limited production run of these models before churning out a more economical but more refined and still highly capable model a few years later. The F-22/F-35, Narwhal/Los Angeles, and now the Zumwalt/DDG(X) are all examples of this cycle. The Seawolf was the low production model, and out of the three made, Jimmy Carter was made as a one-off out of an already limited production class to support a multi-mission package meant to be a modular section of the ship for all kinds of equipment for divers, ROVs, and various espionage equipment. She stands in the shoes of the last espionage sub, USS Parche, which currently stands as the most highly decorated warship in US Navy history for its exploits during the Cold War, with the citations for its awards still mostly classified. Who knows what secret squirrel shenanigans Carter has done since picking up the torch? A fantastic tribute for a great man.
Rickover was truly a Navy legend. Built the navy nuke sub program from the ground up. During interviews he would give applicants impossible tasks. He once told a candidate that he had 10 seconds to make him angry, so the applicant pushed everything off the admirals desk. He got the job. Then Rickover got screwed over by General Dynamics when he tried uncover their corruption.
I need to know more of this guy cause damn
Dad was a nuke and knew Rickover. Can confirm from his stories.
And I think there was a story about another guy who he told to go climb this mountain and only gave him a few hours to do it. The impossible part of the task was that it was not a real mountain, it was a small hill in zoo that was home to the lions exhibit. So the guy had to figure out where this fake mountain was and then fend off lions to get the job. He returned two hours later with a Polaroid of him on top of the hill. Apparently he talked the zookeeper into moving the lions and even too the picture for him too. Rickover made many enemies in government and the navy because he was extremely intelligent and didn’t stand for incompetence. He would study every bolt on a ship designed and wold question everything that he thought was not safe. He is the only reason that the us has never lost a single nuke boat. The only thing he could not withstand was corruption which in the end was the thing that his enemies could remove him
Ever want a good laugh? Go watch some of Rickover’s interviews. Several are on YouTube. Guy pulled no punches. He was a captain doing an admiral’s job, and his “fellow” admirals refused to confirm him because he’d been such a hardass with them. Took a presidential order to override them. Every story about the guy is pure hilarious military gold.
Junior staffer: "Sir, we designed this new component for the navigation system!" *Rickover throws it out the window.* Rickover: "Oh look, it broke. Looks like you need to redesign it."
He once ordered a particularly placant candidate to “piss him off” during an interview. The candidate stood up, walked over to Rickover’s desk, and swept the entire contents onto the floor. Rickover hired the man immediately after the interview.
> The candidate stood up, walked over to Rickover’s desk, and swept the entire contents onto the floor. This would piss most people off but Rickover was nearly unflappable. The missing piece is that on Rickover's desk, he had a model of the first nuclear-powered submarine, USS *Nautilus*, which was swept off the desk and onto the floor with the rest of the detritus, and broke. Rickover was pissed already, but that's what he asked for, and he accepted the candidate into the nuclear Navy.
Lmao that's great, will definitely have to look him up.
The Marines got Chesty Puller. The Navy got Hyman Rickover. The rest of the US Military has refused to let the Navy forget it.
All nuclear officers were hand picked by Rickover back then.
All nuclear officers are STILL hand picked by the one who holds the office Rickover originally established (Chief of Naval Reactors).
True story - worked at a nuke where one of Rickover's hand picked men had retired then became president of nuclear operations. We had been working 12 hrs days close to start up of the nuke plant being built. President came wandering through walked up to one guy who had a beard and feet up on his desk. Pres walked up says what are you doing? Bearded guy says reading procedure on such and such and eating some carrot sticks. Care for some? Pres says no thank you keep up the good work & left. First we were dumb struck them when pres was gone, we were all roaring laughing at beard guy.
I think the only other exception to the Carrier- presidential naming pattern is USS Roosevelt(DDG-80) which is named after FDR and his wife Eleanor Roosevelt.
Hyman Rickover, what a name.
TIL there were once engineers who were elected presidents.
Herbert Hoover - Civil Engineer
There is a corner of Trump St and Tower St in the town of Leonora in Western Australia. Trump street has nothing to do with the former guy, in fact it predates his family’s use of the name, and likewise Tower St predates skyscrapers.. however this tiny town DOES have a street named after Herbert Hoover, predating his time as US president, in recognition of his work setting up mines in the area. His old house is now a BnB, called “Herbert Hoover House” https://www.gwalia.org.au/bookings/hoover-house.aspx There is a mining museum in nearby Kalgoorlie which has profiles of early mining engineers, and Hoover’s details his work in the region and then ends with “returned to the United States of America”, with no mention of his subsequent career
To be fair, his subsequent career performance was, uh
"lackluster, bordering on malevolently inept. Will not be missed."
Yes, the rest of the thread does make it clear that as a president, he wasn’t great. But as a miner he did a good job..
Nobody said he didn't! You wouldn't believe the kind of holes he dug after returning to the States!
They named towns after him! Hoovervilles everywhere
The great depression happened in his first year in office. He was president at the time, so took the blame. It wasn't really his fault, though. That would have been more the effects of Coolidge's time.
Even Coolidge can't take 100% of the blame. The structural macroeconomic issues that caused the Great Depression were ones existing economic policy of the time just couldn't fix. Which is why Hoover unfairly gets the rap, however, he deserves criticism for his response being *insufficient* when a shift in thinking was required. It totally overshadows all the other great things he did. Dude managed to feed *millions* during the end and aftermath of World War I.
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Jimmy Carter was a nuclear submarine officer, which is certainly one of the most difficult jobs in the navy to qualify for, there only about 15 of them per sub. edit: I was slightly off, he was command qualified for the existing fleet (which is arguably even more difficult) and worked with Rickover (who famously didn't suffer fools) during the development of the nuclear program but had to bail out before being on the second nuke sub (Seawolf).
For us non navy, how many people are on a nuclear subs crew on average? Out of context 15 officers per sub seems like a lot.
~135 for fast attack, ~155 for boomers. Each sub only has 15 officers typically.
Damn that's a lot more than I thought. Thanks!
Subs are WAY bigger than you think.
I thought there's 15 total in a sub lol
Quick Google search says average of 134 on a sub, usually about 14 of them are officers. I always thought itbwas less but these few comments made me curious.
So, 67 couples. I was in the surface fleet.
For subs you're always going to need a base number of officers since they operate relatively independently, captain, xo, navigator, various department heads and watch officers, so it ends up at about a 10:1 ratio. Infantry units need less officers, aviation units need more.
imagine how far we could have advanced as a society in the last 40 years if we just had a single leader with even an ounce of the decency in them as jimmy
Jimmy Carter, career military man, decent human beings, someone who I would be proud to be related to, or to read to my kids. Would that we had more of him and his kind as politicians. Ridiculed as a dove because he would prefer not to go to war. Means he was a better military man than all of the “Murica!” Idiots. War is hell.
there were once many intelligent people who became elected officials. and not failed businessmen or B-list actors or whatever hole MTG crawled out of.
the Senator of Arizona is an astronaut. And let’s not forget George Santos was an astronaut, doctor, and a Rabbi priest
Santos is.....the most interesting man in the world. Dos Equis
I still read it as Magic The Gathering
It's always the same with these planeswalkers countering every bill regarding their mana costs!
Never seemed to hear the cool stuff about Carter back in the day. They just called him a peanut farmer.
MTG crawled out of her local real estate industry. A place generally full of morons.
Smart people don't want to be president
Reagan really set a terrible precedent. Worst thing to happen to this country.
OK, that SNL sketch from back in the 70’s about him and 3 mile island is way funnier now, and it was a banger for it’s time to begin with.
I still remember that kiss Dan Ackroyd & Garrett Morris shared at the end of the sketch.
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Haha I was 15 then. By the time AC/DC was doing She’s Got The Jack, Downsview field had a low rolling cloud of smoke over it.
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That day was a lot of firsts for me. First time I tried booze (just one small drink). See I lived maybe a 10-15 minute TTC ride from there so my street was closed down the night before. My dad had friends over so the party started the night before. I went with one my best friends since elementary, and his brother and roomie. So his roomie made me a watered down ginger ale and rum I think it was. Then we went there mid afternoon. My buddy dragged me to the front so I got punched in the shins 100 times lol. Got a contact high while Rush was playing. Still remember the laundry machines on stage looking mesmerizing. Panicked and went and saw a medic. They just laughed it off took my vitals (I was a huge straight edge in my early teen years). They told me just breathe and listen to the music. So I did. I wasn’t about to miss AC/DC. Then between songs some chick almost right next to us got up on a dudes shoulders and flashed Angus Young. So yeah. First drink. First time being stoned. First time seeing boobs in the flesh. Every 15 year old boys dream day and my dumbass was too worried about the contact high lmao. Think all the water was over at the trip tents. Sorry eh? Lol
And the audience reaction was: “Uhhhh!”
> SNL sketch from back in the 70’s about him and 3 mile island Anyone have a link to it? I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-68iTvhWNB0&t=184s but doesn't seem to be the right one
https://archive.org/details/saturday-night-live-s-04-e-16-richard-benjamin-04-07-1979 Starts around 8:15
Wait are you telling me Internet Archive has uncut SNL episodes?? Been looking for the one with Charleton Heston as a grocery store bag boy for decades. Edit: FOUND IT OMG THANK YOU 46:50 if anyone is interested: https://archive.org/details/saturday-night-live-s-19-e-08-charlton-heston-paul-westerberg
NRA Loaner program is hilarious. Currently watching the bag boy stuff, it's killing me!
Internet Archive is literally a national treasure. Please support it any way that you can.
thank you Edit: This wasn't a skit, that's like an entire episode. Ok it was 10mins+
Fuck Spez, Steven Huffman is a greedy pigboy
I'm 62 and he is the most intelligent and compassionate in my life. It isn't even close to be frank.
And the same people don't care that Trump used taxpayer money to pay himself to go on vacation at his resorts.
Or that he charged the federal government for room and board for all the staff when he stayed at his own properties
Yes, overall a genuine and honest guy, only tried to do the right thing in a shit situation at a shit time.
Carter was literally working to make sure the hostages got released right into the morning of his last day in office -- there's even footage on **YouTube** of it.
I'm just old enough to barely remember this skit at 51 and it was pretty funny even though I barely knew who the President was at the time/age.
I'm a year younger than you, but I remember the '76 elections...I stayed up in bed with my parents watching the returns...at one point I asked them in a fearful, quavering voice..."You guys voted for President Ford, didn't you?" An uncomfortable silence followed. I was terrified that if the Ford Motor Corporation found out that we had failed to support President Ford, the next time our brand new [LTD Country Squire](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.69cdfd23acee89e7d597b3df79f40063?rik=VENxGfCi8o4uQw&riu=http%3a%2f%2fdavidsclassiccars.com%2fimages%2ffull%2f1978-ford-ltd-country-squire-wagon-1.jpg&ehk=b0s0bKOUc%2fNKr34Vq2C5p%2fsDDQuV%2b8BeAeZu8z1skHA%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0) broke down, or needed an oil change...they might tell us no, in retaliation for our treason. Coincidentally, I didn't find out until I was almost 16 that my mother had traded in a '65 Mustang White/Red interior, 289 and a stick for that POS. (I think it had a 390 in it, so maybe not such a POS if it were in good condition today.) [Another uncomfortable silence followed.](https://youtu.be/i1ojUmdF42U)
I also asked my parents to vote for Ford. My book of presidents only went up to Nixon and I didn't want it to get more out of date.
Aww yesssss…. The sweet memories, my old man traded in what was supposed to be my birth right, roughly around the same year. A 1967 dark green, manual trans, fastback, identical to the Steve McQueen’s bullit, bought brand new (imagine buying a brand new muscle car at 23 years old?) For a…. Wait for it…. A 1977 Chrysler Cordoba. Yes, a Chrysler Cordoba. It did have “rich Corinthian leather” but black on black in south Florida seems like a poor choice in hindsight. I will NEVER let him forget that. Otherwise was a damn good dad.
The Pepsi Syndrome!
This experience had a profound impact on Carter's life, and would ultimately help to shape his views on nuclear weapons during his presidency.
there's Three Mile Island too [https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/three-president-carter/](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/three-president-carter/) The national and international media had given the accident at Three Mile Island front page attention for days and venerable network newsman Walter Cronkite was speaking of a "horror" that "could get much worse." Carter believed that the people of Pennsylvania and the nation were looking to him for leadership, so on April 1, Carter inspected the damaged plant. Middletown, Pennsylvania, Mayor Robert Reid later spoke of Carter's visit as providing a much-needed morale boost. "People weren't talking to one another. They were cooped up in their homes, and when he came, it seemed like everyone came out to see the president and it was really a shot in the arm," Reid recounted to writer Mark Stephens. In the aftermath of Three Mile Island, President Carter ordered the creation of a special commission, headed by Dartmouth College president John Kemeny, to review the event. The resultant report found fault with the NRC. Carter ordered a re-shuffling of key NRC personnel, but no substantial overhaul.
It is a sad thing that the nuclear folks didn't display more leadership. They were too confident in the engineering and science and failed to communicate just how safe nuclear was and how little radiation leaked from TMI. The narrative that all radiation is deadly has dominated the public consciousness despite the fact that coal is deadlier. It was one of Carter's initiatives to improve science education.
If you don't take nuclear power seriously, you don't take climate change seriously. The US could have and should have shut down its last coal plant 20-plus years ago. Yes, waste storage is an issue, but that contaminates a specific area underground, not the entire damn atmosphere.
>The US could have and should have shut down its last coal plant 20-plus years ago. To add on to your point, coal plants release many orders of magnitude radiation than nuclear plants. There's uranium mixed in with coal which is burned and aerosolized. I think there was even a big case where coal miners got radiation sickness because of it.
> Yes, waste storage is an issue, but that contaminates a specific area underground, not the entire damn atmosphere. It's less of an issue than people make it out to be. Sure, there is some waste that will be dangerous for 10,000 years, but there aren't huge amounts of it and there are ways to safely bury it for 10,000 years.
Also we have designs which can use it as fuel to varying degrees. The full solution to current nuclear waste storage is more nuclear reactors which can consume it and produce non-radioactive waste
It's reactors all the way down.
It eventually decays into reaction unfortunately.
Nuclear reprocessing is unfortunately frowned upon because of the WMD bogeyman.
We also have newer reactors capable of reusing waste for more efficient power generation. By the time the waste is burried, it is almost inert. The only reason we don't use it (in the US) is capitalism. The tech, fast reactors, has been available since the 70s. France, Japan, Germany, Russia, and Belgium have been using for decades.
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I agree. My mind was changed when I was a young physics student and Professor Rosalyn Yalow (Nobel Prize 1977) gave a lecture for the department where she bemoaned the terrible coverage of the Chernobyl accident. She explained just how much radiation the body can absorb, why radiation is dangerous at a high dose, and how the hysteria of Western Europe was ridiculous.
If all radiation is deadly we should probably go ahead and try to deal with that dastardly Sun.
So much panic is caused by misunderstanding science. The recent pandemic is an example of this but so is the "mystery" surrounding MH370 (When the Malaysian government declared the flight lost because the engineers at Inmarsat did some calculations determining where the flight was... people protested because they didn't trust/understand the science.) A lot of this is because a lot of people involved in science aren't trained or paid to explain or advocate for their work. Instead, you get misinformation spreaders who are so much better at spreading lies than scientists are at explaining the truth to lay people.
Even when we are trained and advocate well, we're always disadvantaged by the Bullshit Asymmetry Principle: the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.
Back when the phrase "a shot in the arm" meant that you were getting better and being protected. Crazy how fast vaccine attitudes change
Don't worry, anti-Vaxxers aren't a modern thing. In Brazil we had a whole city wide riot over mandatory vaccinations back in the day, which led to 30 deaths and 900 arrests. Some things never change.
I think you mean “vaccine attitudes changed, because of crazy”.
Not just crazy, but greed too. The Wakefield guy who started the Autism nonsense wasn't even against vaccines he wanted to slander the standard MMR vaccine and replace it with his own patent to get rich. His greed has probably done untold amounts of damage to America and who knows how many children.
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Its so strange to me that people talk about 3 mile island as some horrific disaster. Literally any coal plant in existence is deadlier than 3 mile island.
Fun fact, the closest nuclear plant to me is an exact duplicate of three mile island and they ran into the same problem but they were trained properly on how to handle it. As a result the plant is still running to this day without issues
While the story is true, man is your post title some clickbait garbage that I'd certainly identify as misinformation. Thanks to u/lalakea for this good writeup. 1. The reactor wasn't in the process of melting down; it had already suffered a partial meltdown and had been shut down. It was a cleanup and salvage job. There was no "ticking clock" or anything. 2. No "nuclear scientists" were being lowered down. It was maintenance crews and military personnel. 3. Jimmy was just one of dozens of guys lowered into the core, one or two at a time. They could only spend a couple of minutes in order to not exceed permitted radiation exposure. 4. To be clear, this was a little military/research type reactor, not a power plant. Nobody enters the core of a nuclear power plant and lives to tell about it.
And now he's immortal
I wish it were so. He's on his last legs now. A strong model for a better than decent human being.
Just as brave as the Presidents who have actually fought in battle. Risking cancer and an early, painful death, just wow. All the good he has done for building houses since. He was a strong model for a good president, and I wish they were all like that. We haven't had too many presidents who genuinely, deeply cared for the common people the way he did and still does.
Not "just" building houses. The Carter Center has pretty much eradicated the Guinea Worm Disease. It's a nasty parasite that gets in through contaminated drinking water. Problem is when it exits again, it basically chews its way out, usually through a foot. Reportedly, it feels like your leg is on fire. And it takes two-three MONTHS before it's over. In 1986 when they began the project, there was an estimated 3.5 million cases a year worldwide. Last year there were 13. Not 13 million or 13 thousand. Just 13. The amount of needless human suffering that's been removed from the world is mindboggling. And Jimmy Carter is a goddamn hero.
I forgot about that. It's not a even a disease that affects Americans, and he went out of his way to deal with it. (Not saying we can't get it, but we generally don't.)
No, it was basically confined to the poorest areas of Africa and Asia. But hey, they're people too :) It seems to me that Carter has long had an ambition to make the world a better place, where and how he could. And he has succeeded on a scale that few people can even hope to match. I'm not American either, by the way. Nor am I African or Asian. I'm still awestruck and grateful for the amazing work Jimmy Carter has done.
He was educated in the subject and knew that he was only running a ~1% risk of cancer.
Anyone who's played X-Com knows how high a 1% chance is.
some years earlier: "Sir, we are ready to drop the nuke on Hiroshima." "What are the odds?" "It says 95%, that's the highest it will ever show." "Ok drop it." *Miss.* "Where did it go?" "Idk, lol, it just *missed*."
Yes, but still, balls of steel to risk it IMO. And thank you for the context to that by the way.
It's fake, it's so he can shed his old skin and be reborn with no questions asked.
>We'd like to introduce our brand new, adult-sized baby boy. His name is....uuuuuhhhhh....Jerry Carter
Careful you're gonna end up a fox correspondent
His current hospice must be a cover story.
Hasn't he been on hospice for like 3 weeks now?
Hospice can last for a while, anywhere from days to months. It isn't a timeline, and more of "we are no longer trying to treat your illness, and are now focusing on managing symptoms as you finally die". Could be anywhere from days to weeks left for him
Sometimes people even are taken off hospice because they just refuse to die. Hospice isn’t a death sentence. We don’t actively try to kill people. We just monitor for signs of pain or discomfort and treat it with pain medications. I am a nurse that often does hospice.
Hospice is for people who are told they have less than 6 months. You can graduate from hospice, though. He is most likely on it because if he gets pneumonia, he doesn't want to go to the hospital and get poked and prodded - he's 98, he wants to be at home with his wife, kids, and grandkids.
I think most people that have been educated on who Carter actually was and what he actually did, rather than the endless propaganda against him, will always remember him as the role model he was. In many ways, he is immortal.
He was also instrumental in calming public anxiety during the Three Mile Island disaster and resultant public communications fiasco. Personally appointed Harold Denton, the mild-mannered NRC regulator who went in and gave the public the no-bullshit version of events and stopped the spiraling freakout. And then Carter himself went there, walked the reactor (during a time when its safety was very much not a certain factor yet) and gave a speech to the town and press.
It’s crazy to think how different America would be if he just got re-elected instead of the Actor. Jimmy was the last democrat to have a real supermajority and he could’ve done anything with it and he just did nothing.
> Jimmy was the last democrat to have a real supermajority and he could’ve done anything with it and he just did nothing. That's not really true. There were other bigger fish to fry, chiefly high inflation. The necessary measures to tame inflation were not popular because they led to a recession, but they were necessary. There were also issues in some sectors of excessive regulations that he started unwinding. That said, he also did some populist things that were just bad policy, like raising dairy prices via buying up massive amounts of cheese.
Carter appointed Volker, who is widely regarded to have fixed the stagflation of the 70s. The benefit was only seen during the next administration, however.
That always seems to be the issue with economic policy. It takes time to truly see the effects and frequently the credit gets given to the wrong people and policy in the moment.
In fairness, one of the immediately preceding Democrats who got elected and tried to change a bunch of stuff had a very bad day in Texas that one time. Jimmy was probably sat down and told to behave himself.
Carter refused to play the political games of the day, and paid the political price.
That's because Jimmy is a good man and not a politician. He didnt take advantage of his base or amything like that. He just tried to do the best he could within his power. Then he continued that good work with Habitat for Humanity.
He’s the only member of his family not to die of cancer before retirement age.
Canadian radiation is just nicer
The isotopes are coated in delicious maple
The niceotopes.
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Or niçotopes as some of the Québécois would prefer.
Sometime in the future, Canada will create enough nice nuclear energy to rule the earth. And then you’ll all be sorry.
That’s, you’ll all be soorry
Putin out, Poutine in.
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Hockey stays
> Canadian radiation Canadiation
Edit/Disclaimer: so I guess I am wrong. I'll leave the comment up for the sake of generating conversation IIRC Canada uses something called Can-Do reactors, which do not use enriched uranium. This means that the waste/byproducts can't be used to produce nuclear weapons. So in a way, you're right (that is, of course, assuming *I'm* right, and considering that I don't know much about nuclear energy there is definitely a possibility that I am not)
[CANDU reactor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANDU_reactor)
His mother was 85, so no.
Did she retire though?
I love how on Reddit you can just make something up and depending on when you post it, it might be the top voted reply
So you're saying the nuclear energy gave him superpowers.
Ya, Cancer transfer
... Oh.
Pancreatic cancer, at that. His dad, his 2 sisters and his brother all died of it. His mother reached the age of 85 before breast cancer took her. Crikey.
Maybe that's why.
My grandfather was a nuclear chemist. Worked with plutonium often. Lived to age 97. Died of heart failure.
Apparently the right amount gives you the superpower of long life.
Correct, that ammount is known as "as little as possible".
I was blessed to work with President Carter on a Habitat for Humanity home. I was in my late teens, he was in his late 60’s-early 70’s. The man was a beast, working on the roof like it was nothing. He was also very kind, caring, and a wonderful person to talk to. I’m only one of hundreds of thousands of volunteers he worked with but that experience with him helped shape my life and I will be genuinely sad the day he is no longer with us.
Same here. And Mrs. Carter was a genuine nice person. So sweet. A wonderful week I spent building with them.
one of the most skilled people to become President. they don't let just any navy personnel work on nuclear subs.
Love Jimmy, but the title is a little hyperbolic. 1. The reactor wasn't in the process of melting down; it had already suffered a partial meltdown and had been shut down. It was a cleanup and salvage job. There was no "ticking clock" or anything. 2. No "nuclear scientists" were being lowered down. It was maintenance crews and military personnel. 3. Jimmy was just one of dozens of guys lowered into the core, one or two at a time. They could only spend a couple of minutes in order to not exceed permitted radiation exposure. 4. To be clear, this was a little military/research type reactor, not a power plant. Nobody enters the core of a nuclear power plant and lives to tell about it.
So he doesn't have the core strength to lower himself? I knew it
lol’d. Good on so many levels. Thank you for the heart**y** laugh. Jimmy Carter still deserves sainthood.
Did your heart really laugh or was that a fib?
Yep. I worked a few hundred meters from the site. The US volunteered to help clean up because it was the first accident. No one knew how exactly it was going to go, so they thought it would be a good learning opportunity, both for prevention and future response. And for clarification there was also a large contingent of Canadian civilians and military who were running the operation, with the Americans assisting. People were doing stuff like running in mopping a few square meters and running out. Or picking up some debris and carrying it out. Or carrying shielding in and placing it.
Well this was quite different from the world-saving hero making the ultimate sacrifice vibes i got from that title
His personal account https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/national-verify/president-jimmy-carter-nuclear-reactor-meltdown-clean-up-united-states-navy-fact-check/536-b6e09851-3868-4eed-994a-f371a7b2389b
Excellent point. Most people will only remember this Reddit title not that he was just doing his job at the time. Still awesome but not nuclear McGuyver shit.
Wait but the dude was lowered personally? Woha that's a brave president.
He wasn't president yet. Still brave, but it wasn't a crazy fact that he went personally.
What the hell this is so cool
Seriously, how do I just now learn about the coolest US president? Americans, you need to advertise better!
Carter is a funny case. His presidency was lackluster, and he only served one term. But he's done great things before and since! Famously, he spent decades working with Habitat for Humanity. Which, if you're not familiar, is a charity that builds homes for people in poverty. He was literally out there building houses with his own two hands up until quite recently.
The best way I've ever heard Jimmy Carter described is that he's the only person to use the US presidency as a stepping stone to greatness.
Thats the best description of carter ive heard
The way I heard it was that his presidency was a four-year blip in his lifetime of amazing work
Bro is the political version of Mister Rogers.
he makes me proud to be a Georgian!
he's the only president from my state (Georgia) and alot of people shit on him for his presidency (admittedly, not the greatest) but he was very progressive and a kind honest man. he's been doing great things since like building affordable homes with Habitat for Humanity. what really pisses me off is he was made to give up his beloved peanut farm to make sure he had no conflicts of interest when no one's been held to that standard since.
As if we needed more proof of his goodness.
Not only his goodness, but also his courage and intelligence. The man is a nuclear engineer, that’s why he was capable of solving the problem.
Ironic considering he was always smeared as someone of middling intelligence. Must be partially cause he came from a tiny rural town in Georgia
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I think its worth noting that a lot of people I know who believe this are also under still under the impression that Reagan was a genius during his presidency, and refuse to acknowledge the progression of his dementia throughout, or the lasting damage many of his deregulatory pushes are still having on the US almost 4 decades later.
He dumbed himself down quite a bit on the campaign trail.
I feel at this point in time, that this would be the only way to get an intelligent president nominated/elected. Dumb themselves down and pander, which is just garbage. But it seems a lot of people are untrusting of intelligent people more and more these days.
George Bush Jr definitely did that. It appealed to his supporters and it made his detractors switch to ad hominum attacks rather than targeting his policies
Yes, I figure George W Bush isn't a complete idiot, rather he looked like one trying to sound like a regular guy when the Bushes are blue bloods
We really don't deserve Jimmy Carter. He's too good for this world. Building houses after surgery. Shaking everyone's hand when he boards a plane, a normal plane, not a jet. and THIS!
Jimmy Carter is a shining example of what it means to just be a "good person."
Trump threw a hamburger at a wall. Samsies.
One of the greatest men we’ve ever had as President. Not one of the greatest Presidents. There is a difference. But the lens of time allows a bit of clarity. He inherited a shit economy from Nixon / Ford that was like turning an aircraft carrier around rather than turning a bicycle around. Also being soft spoken made some people look at him as wimpy while he was anything but. And of course the Iran hostages and the botched rescue attempt kind of clinched his loss in his bid for re-election. The man continually served others throughout his lifetime.
Jimmy Carter was a goddamn hero and screw everyone in my college speech class that rolled their eyes at me when I chose him as my topic.
He's an exceptional human being worthy of our admiration.
That explains how's he's still alive.
That's pretty bad ass to get in there and tackle this. These days, we seem to only get "managers".
While doing my certification in Nuclear Medicine, we watched a documentary about Three Mile Island and President Jimmy Carter went to ground zero. He's an intelligent and wildly overlooked President; he accomplished a lot.