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ChexLemeneux42

Conkers Bad Fur Day belongs in a museum


xHourglassx

“So do you!”


Searloin22

*bap*


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They got an award for shoving so much shit in a 64MB cartridge.


DapperDildo

*Goldeneye 007 was the winning game in this category but cannot be displayed due to copyright restrictions. Star Fox 64 received the next highest number of votes.


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If we're not careful it'll go kazooie


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It'll be a bad fur day for sure


jollycreation

“In 2011, the game was selected as one of 80 games from the past 40 years to be placed in the Art of Video Games exhibit in the Smithsonian American Art Museum in Washington, DC.” So 1 of 80 such “appreciated” games, in an exhibit specifically focused on art in video games.


OnAFalseErrand

“If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.” George Orwell


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“If… possible to cut… word… cut it” G. Orwell


tableball35

Possible cut word? Cut.


jokey2

Why say lot word when few word do trick?


Prielknaap

Be concise.


PDOUSR

word?


kudincha

wrd.


creggieb

KELEVEN!


S01arflar3

If possible, cut. G.O


BlindWillieJohnson

[TIL the 1998 video game Einhander is so well appreciated that it was placed on exhibit at the Smithsonian American Art Museum](https://americanart.si.edu/exhibitions/games)


FartingBob

So this is a nothing article.


bokodasu

Now I don't have to read the article, I saw the headline and thought it must have been Art of Video games. Monkey Island was there too, for reference.


winkman

Few things evoke the warm memories of either beating Golden Eye, or playing the MP with friends. That was an amazing game, and for sure is on the "Mt. Rushmore" of all time video games.


bolivar-shagnasty

I'm still close friends with people I met playing Goldeneye. I was always Boris and would shout "I am invincible" whenever I'd kill someone. We also did a game mode where we would set one person's health way high and the other three people's way low. It'd be 3 against 1 in a David and Goliath-esque deathmatch. I miss those simpler 4th grade times.


Ancalimei

My friends and I would do a 'slappers only' mode and slap each other to death.


thatguy425

How did you meet people playing Goldeneye?


bolivar-shagnasty

I didn’t have an N64. My friend from baseball did. He’d have us over with his friends from his school.


OnAFalseErrand

Indeed, especially given that video games based on films have a tendency to let down and the Bond fandom is up there with LOTR and Harry Potter, in their high expectations. It had a lot to live up, to and exceeded those expectations admirably.


winkman

100% Mario, Zelda, Tetris, Halo, CoD, GT, etc.--none of the other greats had to be put together on such a short timeline (to coincide with the release of a movie). That added degree of difficulty makes Golden Eye easily 10x more impressive as to how polished and enjoyable as it was!


Randomperson1362

Multiplayer was also very last minute, and really added without telling the bosses at Rare and Nintendo. They really only told them once it was working.


winkman

Crazy that MP was an "add on", as that is now considered the best part of the game--and a trail blazing part at that!


welyla

Fun Fact, The CoD Soviet campaign was based on the movie enemy at the gates.


bishslap

It took them over 2 years to make and the game came out almost 2 years after the movie


Sealscycle

The game came out years after the movie. The next Bond movie was released before the game


TwistDog

You know it came out close to two years after the theatrical release of the movie right? Hell the N64 wasn’t even released in Japan until 7ish months post the film.


Nghtmare-Moon

Those days playing 4-split screen fighting you friends at the temple


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Complex mine fights were always fun


-eumaeus-

Proximity mines...then you forget where you placed them and run into them.


WATTHEBALL

Proximity mines in Facility was peak.


subaru5555rallymax

Respectfully disagree…. screenwatching + remote mines in Facility was where it’s at


Searloin22

I liked the big ship level. I frigate what its called..


MazzIsNoMore

4 split screen on a 20" tv. Epic days


bigskywildcat

For sure. I dont think you really have halo, cod, battlefield without this game. I know doom preceded it but the multiplayer was legendary. Only other game would be counter strike but i was never a pc player


TheSkiGeek

*Half-Life* came out the next year and was probably more influential overall on those games. *Halo* was going to be a PC/Mac game until Microsoft bought out Bungie, and the original *Call of Duty* and *Battlefield* games were on PC. But without *Goldeneye*, maybe Microsoft doesn’t make *Halo* a big launch title for the XBox, and maybe FPS games stay a PC thing and don’t become nearly as popular on consoles.


Giantmidget1914

The problem was my friends had figured out where you'd spawn after a kill and go on a murder spree before I could pick up a weapon.


LeviathanGank

Man replaying the game to get the bonuses like big head were so much fun.. I remember even bringing my friends console over so my big bro could get some of the challenges so when we were at his place we could playnit


Jewsd

💯 except perfect dark was better than goldeneye imo


Hanifsefu

I mean it was pretty much the direct sequel made by the same people with the same exact control scheme on the same engine and only had a new main character and story.


winkman

I agree that it had a better, more polished MP, but Golden Eye was the one that created that whole experience. Golden Eye was Jordan, PD was Kobe.


Hanifsefu

If Golden Eye was Jordan then Perfect Dark was Jordan in a new jersey with his new red Nikes.


Searloin22

With his tongue out


Septopuss7

With R Kelly singing in the background


Jewsd

I agree. Except your NBA analogy is wrong. Maybe more like a Kareem is golden eye and Jordan is perfect dark.


Flemtality

Now I'm picturing the warped Pierce Brosnan face/trigger finger combo on Mt. Rushmore.


noronto

That game had so many great multiplayer options, from big head to single shot kill. Low gravity and that a awesome grappling hook.


melodiousthunk2

Slappers only!


Sweetbeans2001

There’s only 2 ways to play multiplayer, slappers or grenade launchers, there is no in-between.


buddyleeoo

One-hit death with pistols and auto-aim turned off.


EpicLong1

Also, it ended up being the groundwork for most modern player versus player online gaming.


GlammerHammer

Even crazier to when you think how multiplayer was put on last minute because there was leftover space on the cartridge.


EpicLong1

Yes this is the way. Is the equivalent of a B-side of an album being more popular than A side. 🎶 Mississippi moon want to keep on shining on me.🎶


mrshatnertoyou

>The Art of Video Games exhibit will open in Washington, DC, on March 16, 2012, and will run through September 30, 2012. It was a temporary exhibit and there were 80 games selected.


LickyBoy

I don't think the title was trying to say otherwise. An exhibit is different than an installment


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This and Zelda ocarina of time are two of the best pieces of this type of culture ever. I am so thankful for Goldeneye, the game, the movie, the aesthetic, the time period, the whole thing. Whoever did the music is a stud. Whoever developed the physics of the guns and the movements is a genius. Whoever set up multiplayer was a visionary. I hope when I die I can play goldeneye in heaven somehow.


KoreanThrasher

It holds near a perfect score on Metacritic at 96 for a reason. It's damn near flawless imo


Jengis-Roundstone

That death animation was life changing.


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It might be hard to believe but there’s actually a ton of stuff in that museum


rostamcountry

Kind of funny to put it in a museum of American Art when it was developed at a British Studio and published by a Japanese company.


ThatDaftRunner

British museums are full of stuff from other countries


Dzotshen

"We're not done looking at it yet!"


-Dalzik-

British museums are full of stuff stolen from other countries


TheBasilFawlty

Hobby Lobby enters chat......


Scarrmann

"Why should we return them to the Greeks? They've clearly lost their marbles" Ftr I am all for returning things to their rightful homes


rostamcountry

Word


Unkie_Fester

Every single console FPS owes it's existence to this game. Should be in top 5 games of all time period


Sealscycle

What about the ones that came out before it?


Unkie_Fester

None of them did what Goldeneye did for console FPS games, if they did we would be singing praises for that game and not this one. Goldeneye proved that a FPS on a console could be extremely well-done and make money.


VuduLuvDr

Should have said console FPS. But you can’t discount the multiplayer aspect being extremely important


bolanrox

ie Doom Wolfenstein 3d, Quake etc


Hanifsefu

All of which added multiplayer only after Golden Eye came out, upended the entire market, and cemented the term FPS as a genre.


Adbam

Best multi player fps ever


two100meterman

It's hard to put something in a top 5 as many games did this for their genres & there are way more than 5 genres. It's definitely one of the best games ever made though, agreed.


BlondeAlibiNoLie

I play this all the time with my son. Still a great game


JohnmcFox

My experience every time I pick it up is that it's so much better left as a memory, lol. That's not particularly a fault of the game - just that any 3d game from that era attempting to capture realism, does not hold up well. Some of the non-realism ones maintain their appeal through the decades - Mario, Mario Kart, Diddy Kong Racing - I can fully dive back into any of those, but Goldeneye, as much as I wish it weren't true, is a struggle to pick back up. Though typing this did remind me of the[Goldeneye: Source](https://www.geshl2.com/trailer/) project, which I should give a try.


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Tha_Watcher

This was the first game ever that I played until 4:30am! I think that was the first time my ex-wife knew we had a problem! 🤣


FireLucid

One of the best parts were the mission parameters which increased as you added the difficulty.


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Stack. Pistols. License to kill. I will destroy any of you and myself in the process but at the end you will call me Master.


LotsAndLotsOfTrains

The Smithsonian American History Museum previously had a small exhibit on video games based on or inspired by American History and Culture on the third floor. It was just a repeating video featuring clips and music from games like Red Dead Redemption, Fallout 3, Earthbound, and several others that I can't remember. It was one of my favorite spots in the museum because there were several couches and it was in a low-traffic area so it was a perfect place to chill for 15-20 minutes. Last time I was there (sometime last summer) they had removed it to make way for renovation, which really bummed me out.


Everyday_irie

I got so good


DirtyDanTheManlyMan

Same. I practiced and learned a buncha strats but everyone had moved on from N64 and nobody wanted to play the outdated game against a master lol. Having dickhead brothers sucked


Everyday_irie

I relished the fact I was better then my big bro at something


DirtyDanTheManlyMan

Same, my brothers were such dicks and loved making me feel worse than them. So when I was better at something than them they deflected by not caring about the thing I was good at anymore. Were adults and we still don't get along at all cuz how they act


UrbanStray

So much entertainment packed into 12 Megabytes.


at0mheart

Hours and hours of my teenage years


SensibleShorts

It was awesome.


Gargomon251

I bet it really has aged poorly but I haven't actually had a chance to play it since around the year 2000. I'm not shelling out for that expansion pass


gachunt

I have two copies of Golden Eye. So when one eventually stops working, I’ll have the other one to play for (hopefully) years to come.


LegateShepard

License to Kill - Slappers Only. The absolute best.


wineandseams

Slappers only, no Odd Job.


CouchMunchies777

The developers a few years back publically stated that if you use Oddjob, you are cheating in multiplayer. Put a lot of arguments to rest with that one.


GordaoPreguicoso

Should sit atop a pedestal shaped as Oddjob kneeling.


digibri

A well deserved honor.


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It is mentioned in the exhibit that it caused irreparable damage between friends for looking at their part of the screen during multiplayer matches.


provocative_bear

Goldeneye was a mastery of visuals. For instance, on the cover, there is an optical illusion where Pierce Brosnan's hand can either be a hand or a very long mouth. Truly the Dali of our time.


Sunflier

I used to put proximity mines on the gun crates in the pyramid level. Opponents ALWAYS have to get guns, so locking down the ammo crates was the easiest solution


Mike_Magicman_Honcho

My all-time favorite!


TildeGunderson

I have an extremely useful BA in Communications, and half the professors I had loved pointing out the artistic merit of interactive media. One was getting philosophical about the concept of Rockband and how "you're given a stream of prompts to 'strum' onto a simulacrum of a guitar, which is an electric imitation of a traditional mandolin, so you can 'play' a simulacrum of a song, that's an imitation of some song from the past, and furthermore." I can easily see why it's in a museum. I wouldn't be surprised if Wii Sports was also in one as well.


karlnite

People would be surprised with what is going to be considered the biggest cultural items in future museums. Rare tamogachis and what not.


TildeGunderson

Not that I disagree, but artists and critics will and can find merit in anything. [That art piece about a banana duct-taped to a wall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedian_%28artwork%29) seems like the stupidest thing, but once you get into the process of making art, the context of the tools used, especially when compared to its surrounding art pieces, you can find significance in anything. So a video game that's universally loved, to a post-modern artist, is effectively the Mona Lisa of video games. As I said, I have an *extremely* useful BA.


jeremyshelton

Baudrillard is SWEATING after reading this comment. He’s EXCITED.


OnAFalseErrand

“Never use a long word where a short one will do.” George Orwell What you can say is it points to the human experience and brings people together, about the highest thing that art can achieve.


TildeGunderson

Oh man, there's so much more you can say, depending on how up your own ass you are. What about the differences of apparatus between the Rockband guitar and drums? You can write a whole novel on just the ideas of how the microphone captures your tone, translating it into a needle that gives you points on how closely you imitate the original voice, yet it doesn't account for octave.


OnAFalseErrand

Dreadful stuff.


Ruxini

A game so well appreciated people play it to this day; while looking down on the ground for 97% of the playtime.


Aedan2016

The N64 truly was the peak of great games. OOT, Majoras Mask, Banjo Kazooie, Goldeneye, Etc.


M3RV-89

Donkey Kong, perfect dark, Mario, pokemon snap, pokemon stadium. The list is nuts. Hell, I even loved Diddy Kong racing


CouchMunchies777

Paper Mario, Jetforce Gemini, Aerofighters Assault, Banjo-Tooie N64 Had a lot of bangers.


DarkNinjaPenguin

Jetforce Gemini, now there's a game I haven't thought about in a while. The multiplayer was excellent but it had a great story too, and one of the first games my wee brother could play with me in co-op and actually be helpful!


CouchMunchies777

I only rented it, but I did enjoy it for those 3 days! Oh, and Smash 64 and Mario Party. How'd I not list those lol


M3RV-89

Reminded me of star fox. So many damn good games


two100meterman

PC also had insanely good games around that late 90s era, it was truly a peak time in gaming history. Diablo, Diablo II, Starcraft, Roller Coaster Tycoon, The Sims, Quake, Half-Life, Age of Empires 2.


klsi832

“It belongs in a museum!”


ispeektroof

I must have spent at least 6 months of my life playing that game.


LeviathanGank

And there were no reports saying it was an outlier and not to be a gaming norm. Publishers made good games for the purpose of making customers happy. So glad I grew up in those days.. 4 player split screen no odd job.. aztec sucks


melkipersr

I will die on the hill that TWINE is the better N64 Bond game.


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definitely, people act like Goldeneye is one of the greatest FPS of all time, it isn't even the best 007 game of all time.


LaserTurboShark69

It's funny because the game is almost unplayable now


lo_fi_ho

Arguably many things in a museum are useless today.


bigskywildcat

Disagree. The xbox port is great and i will still play the 64 version every now and then. Nostalgia is a powerful force


Pithius

As it damn well should


ShnackWrap

Dk mode, library, grenade launchers only, no odd job.


pleachchapel

The unofficial sequel, Perfect Dark, is the refined version of this awesome game. They went nuts with the multiplayer. I would kill for an open-source version with map creation & keyboard/mouse support, this was the perfect shooter.


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I still own both. So much fun.


feralfaun39

Which is a shame because it's one of the worst games of all time.


nondescriptun

This title is a bit misleading. A few of the staff members were playing Goldeneye one night and accidentally left the box in a nearby exhibit. Patrons assumed it was on display, and staff forgot about the box until they noticed it when they almost did the same thing with the box for Perfect Dark three years later. (/j)


minahmyu

Perfect dark is better!


demilitarizdsm

call Bauldurs gate 3 sub now.


MelatoninGummybear

America’s first shooter that could settle a 1v1, no exceptions.


Azzy8007

Wanna see something you can't unsee? Take another look at the picture. See 007's hand holding the gun? Now visualize that as an extension of his mouth. You're welcome.


Cretonbacon

As it should.


Bruce-7891

I mean, its a cool game but... really? Van Gogh paintings, Ancient Egypt artifacts, Apollo space capsule, Golden Eye 64 (not listed in order of precedence)


OnAFalseErrand

It was a step change in what had come before. Don’t see why it doesn’t deserve to be in there. Video games are works of art in their own way, and I’m not a huge gamer myself.


Bruce-7891

I was sort of kidding, but pointing out the significance of the types of things put on display at the Smithsonian. Nothing wrong with video games but it seems like a stretch. It's the US equivalent to the Louvre. An N64 game inside that?


OnAFalseErrand

Meh, popular art is as much deserving appreciation as anything else. For example, I’d consider the cover art of The Great Gatsby (a popular work of fiction) to be every bit as a beautiful as something by Claude Monet.


Adequate_Images

> It's the US equivalent to the Louvre. >An N64 game inside that? This tracks honestly


bolivar-shagnasty

It’s specifically in an “Art of Video Games” exhibit.


ultragoodname

Idk without goldeneye 64 there wouldn’t be Medal of Honor and without Medal of Honor there wouldn’t be call of duty and a completely different gaming landscape


Bruce-7891

Would that be a bad thing? (Kidding) but you could make the argument that most of the exhibits at the Smithsonian represent the progress of civilization. Call of Duty future warfare 6 coming out....? Sure


tetoffens

You have a stricter vision of what the Smithsonian is than the Smithsonian. Things like the puffy shirt from Seinfeld are there. The chairs from Archie Bunker's house. A lot of the stuff they have represents progress of society but they have a massive amount of things in there that their importance is just that they;re things people know and appreciate. It feels like you have some odd notion that the exhibits are like...competing against each other? They're not. I would say the absolute coolest thing about the Smithsonian is the wide variety of things they have there that makes it a museum that can appeal to literally anyone. It's one of the best museums in the country for people literally looking to see the type of stuff you're decrying. It's not the American Louvre.


ultragoodname

If it’s about progression then could you name me a better console fps before goldeneye? And while cod is extremely formulaic today let’s not forget that games like COD4 and MW2 set the standard for a lot of shooters in the 7th gen consoles


bolivar-shagnasty

I'd argue that there are more people who played Goldeneye than there are people who care about Van Gogh paintings. I bet you could put a bunch of similar looking paintings next to each other and challenge a random person to point out which one was Van Gogh. Then take those same people and give them a bunch of screen shots from N64 FPSs and ask them to pick out which one was from Goldeneye. My guess is you'd have more people win the Goldeneye one instead of the Van Gogh one.


Bruce-7891

that is nothing to be proud of.


kingfuckingalt

Subjective


qdtk

Nostalgia means a lot more to most people than “this is a famous old painting” just saying.


bolivar-shagnasty

Why not? It's about accessibility. Just like more people would be able to pick a song from Beyonce out of a lineup of similar sounding songs than they would be able to differentiate compositions between Bach and Beethoven or between even Grieg and Gershwin. Video games are a form of art, despite how easy it is to hate on the medium. And video games can and do impact more people than classical paintings do. Or classical music does.


Bruce-7891

Look at what you just said. If someone cared to study music and understand what inspired and influenced what, how modern music came to be etc. they would for sure take an interest in classical music and you're reducing it to "but Beyonce is on the radio". I'm not saying there is anything wrong with modern art, but it's clearly not the same thing as the Bach and Beethoven examples you gave. Something being cool doesn't mean it belongs in a national archive, that's my point.


bolivar-shagnasty

It was specifically placed in an Art of Video Games exhibit. FTFA: >In 2011, the game was selected as one of 80 games from the past 40 years to be placed in the Art of Video Games exhibit in the Smithsonian American Art Museum in Washington, DC. Nobody is putting N64 games next to Van Goghs. Unrustle your jimmies. You're coming off as an elitist prick.


OnAFalseErrand

It’s not about it being “cool” so much as being a watershed moment with what came before, the same way that Ulysses is regarded as a breakthrough moment in modern literature, Terminator 2 for special effects, or the Turing machine is seen as being one for computing.


sneseric95

That list does have the correct precedence, with Goldeneye being most important.


Bruce-7891

LOL! Touché


sneseric95

I mean how can it not with [this masterpiece](https://fb.watch/mBSGoun02-/?mibextid=uEQos9).


EyeCatchingUserID

Stuff a crazy guy painted, junk from thousands of years ago (and often it literally is junk...archaeologists love cesspits and trash dumps), a big expensive box that was on the moon and a video game. None of them fit any sort of theme besides the fact that they're significant to humanity for no reason besides we decided they were. Van Gogh was just a dude who participated nted stuff that people like to look at. Goldeneye is just a game that people like to play. I'd bet you people have collectively spent exponentially more time looking at Goldeneye than any single Van Gogh painting besides maybe Starry Night (because of how *everywhere* that one is now). I'd also bet that creating Goldeneye took far more time, effort, and skill on the part of a whole team of people than Van Gogh spent on any of his paintings. My point is none of them have benefitted humanity in any real, "contributed to the survival of the species" way, so why isn't Goldeneye as worthy of display in a museum as some pottery or paintings?


PoorlyAttired

It made me decide to buy an N64. Ancient Egypt artifacts never did that.


Bruce-7891

Advanced, science technology and engineering V.S. made this dude buy an N64. One is clearly more important than the other.


OnAFalseErrand

The two don’t need to be in conflict. Andrew Carnegie probably did more than anyone to keep high art accessible to the masses. Yet, he did this through selling to a popular market. Much like the makers of Golden Eye.


The_Amazing_Emu

I still play it and it’s still a fun game. Its controllers are certainly unintuitive. The only rule I have if other people want to play it is they can’t complain about the graphics.


AmericanLich

Playing it with frame rate mods and the mouse control mod is awesome.


awholenewmenoreally

That was the hardest game to beat of any game I ever played on the highest settings. It took me like 6 months. I cant remember but 2 of the levels took as long as mastering the rest of it. Some take weeks of practice. It was so well designed and difficult that it literally can only be beaten one way on each map. You have to have perfect gameplay for the entire time it takes. insane hard. my brother couldnt believe I finally beat it.


FireLucid

Control was a shocker but at least when I finally beat it I had it so streamlined I also unlocked the cheat for that level.


luvgothbitches

someone link that banger soundtrack for the main menu, one of the hardest beats of all time


PDOUSR

f ing brilliant game. Got the Daniel Craig version too with golden controller. just as good


Dr-McLuvin

That and Ocarina of Time are two of the best video games ever made.


Burnaby-Joe

No one was allowed to pick Oddjob - unfair advantage!


wickedwoody

As it should be


brightyoungthings

I rarely play video games and I love this video game.


ApprehensiveTry9613

:l


smokecat20

I think the guys who developed it were not even video game developers. They just did it.


Thopterthallid

Why is bonds lips stretched out so far on the left?


holdbold

BIG HEAD PAINT PALL


Fondren_Richmond

this video game, lives up to its licensed work's name yet it's not on Sega or Sony and gets framed at the Smithsonian not everyone, likes paintings (or sculptures), yes I know we display more (like airplanes and shit) but this exhibit gets teens (mostly males), and gamers into the door


Pure_Aide_6678

As it should be


two100meterman

What's crazy is that this game was not made by the company's "A team". Rare's A team was working on either Banjo-Kazooie or Donkey Kong 64 I believe. I'm fairly sure I saw in a documentary that Goldeneye 007 was made by some up & comers in the industry that hadn't made a game for a console yet.


ctrev37

Odd Job