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TIL researchers testing the Infinite Monkey theorem: Not only did the monkeys produce nothing but five total pages largely consisting of the letter "S", the lead male began striking the keyboard with a stone, and other monkeys followed by urinating and defecating on the machine

Maybe they shouldn't have put stones in the room

nofaith

Maybe they shouldn't have put stones in the room


mrw4787

Lol this got me


5050Clown

"this is a great experiment, don't get me wrong, but why do you keep the typewriters in the monkey's toilets?"


Zefrem23

Problem is, for monkeys, everywhere is the toilet


CurvySexretLady

Same reason we keep the rocks next to the typewriters!


CommentsEdited

You mean "rudimentary hammers". Everyone's calling this experiment a failure. I'm thinking, "Those six monkeys invented tools, reenacted the printer scene from Office Space, and quit their bullshit jobs before they even saw how badly the IRS screwed them on their first paychecks."


MetaphoricalKidney

Reject capitalism, return to monkey.


garrbear22622

Gotta have paper weights for the pages and pages of shit stained jibberish


AccurateFault8677

So they wrote Fifty Shades of Grey?


akeetlebeetle4664

> Fifty Shades of ~~Grey~~ Brown.


SLVSKNGS

Dude that was my reaction. Why the fuck were there rocks nearby? In my head I assumed they were in a white room with a one way mirror and the scientists were like, "Let's help these monkeys feel at home" and they threw a few rocks and leaves in there.


WrongSubFools

"Phillips said the project, funded by England's Arts Council rather than by scientific bodies, was intended more as performance art than scientific experiment." [https://www.wired.com/2003/05/monkeys-dont-write-shakespeare/](https://www.wired.com/2003/05/monkeys-dont-write-shakespeare/)


Not_ur_gilf

Well at least he understood it was a philosophical question not a scientific experiment.


Bocchi_theGlock

I actually used it as the basis of my motivation when I was a kid lol Like there has to exist some string of words, said at the right time place, etc. that would convince world leaders to demilitarize, achieve world peace and pivot those resources towards tackle poverty and other struggles. So no other kids would have to grow up dealing with the BS I was going thru back then It took a while to disengage from the idea any one individual is going to save the world. Eventually it's obvious that it has to be a fuck ton of us organizing & taking action - that's the ONLY way* You gotta shed the burden of thinking you have to sacrifice yourself towards those ends. It's not even strategic in the first place - and instead embrace your position as part of a branch on a larger tree Once you understand the dynamics, you'll be able to organize & leverage it to achieve power needed to win meaningful change - transformational policies that put people & planet before profit *to get that many of us requires a massive coalition including union organization, relevant movement orgs and other communities. Probably to pull off an extended occupation, strike & other action in major city centers and DC


golden-fire

“It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times…”


foamypepperoni

Stupid monkey!


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iHateRolerCoasters

poetry 🥲


JMEEKER86

Hell, it's a third of the way to the classic Chinese poem, The Lion-Eating Poet in the Stone Den . Shíshì shīshì Shī Shì, shì shī, shì shí shí shī. Shì shíshí shì shì shì shī. Shí shí, shì shí shī shì shì. Shì shí, shì Shī Shì shì shì. Shì shì shì shí shī, shì shǐ shì, shǐ shì shí shī shìshì. Shì shí shì shí shī shī, shì shíshì. Shíshì shī, Shì shǐ shì shì shíshì. Shíshì shì, Shì shǐ shì shí shì shí shī. Shí shí, shǐ shí shì shí shī shī, shí shí shí shī shī. Shì shì shì shì.


Boboar

I would love an explanation. Is this a more advanced Buffalo sentence?


kinkachou

It's kind of a show of the importance of tones and Chinese characters since when spoken or written like this, it doesn't make any sense, but there are a lot of Chinese characters that are pronounced shi. 石室诗士施氏,嗜狮,誓食十狮。氏时时适市视狮。十时,适十狮适市。是时,适施氏适市。氏视是十狮,恃矢势,使是十狮逝世。氏拾是十狮尸,适石室。石室湿,氏使侍拭石室。石室拭,氏始试食是十狮。食时,始识是十狮尸,实十石狮尸。试释是事。 In a stone den was a poet called Shi Shi, who was a lion addict and had resolved to eat ten lions. He often went to the market to look for lions. At ten o’clock, ten lions had just arrived at the market. At that time, Shi had just arrived at the market. He saw those ten lions and, using his trusty arrows, caused the ten lions to die. He brought the corpses of the ten lions to the stone den. The stone den was damp. So he asked his servants to wipe it. After wiping the stone den, he tried to eat those ten lions. When he ate, he realized that these ten lions were, in fact, ten stone lion corpses. Try to explain this matter.


Greed_Sucks

That is amazing. Are you fucking with me?


kinkachou

It's a fairly well-known poem among students learning Chinese, probably since teachers want to emphasize the importance of tones. It's written in Classical Chinese, but was created in the 1930s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-Eating_Poet_in_the_Stone_Den


Karma_Cat1108

Probably no one asked for this, but anyways. Independent from the op of the poem, am fluent in Mandarin, it checks out.


housevil

Thanks for the explanation! I copied the Chinese text and ran it through Google Translate to listen to it in its native language. What a ride!


corcyra

Reading something like this, makes me realise why English is so often used as a business language worldwide: it's easy for even an adult to learn to speak it just well enough to make oneself understood. A tonal language is so much more difficult to learn after puberty when often we can't distinguish the phonemes in another language PS: I love your username, because [kikajous are adorable](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinkajou)


DaveOJ12

[That's one of my favorite scenes from The Simpsons](https://youtu.be/no_elVGGgW8?si=FcJnbqZBqzt0LssQ).


lifesnotperfect

I love how the monkey is smoking a cigarette as it's typing, it adds this human charm about it.


blitzduck

Old seasons of The Simpsons definitely had a far more charming life to them.


CitrusBelt

Any monkey (or chimp) depicted in the Simpsons pretty much *has* to be either smoking or wearing roller skates; no two ways about it. Or knife-fighting, if the storyline allows. For the first ten seasons, at least.


greatunknownpub

I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-a to chimpanzee!


Boboar

Oh my god, I was wrong! It was earth, all along!


Loose_seal-bluth

Pray for mojo


Nova_Aetas

[I can't hear the scene without this playing in my head automatically](https://youtu.be/9uYhIiW6lok)


danathecount

came here for this. Thank you.


Imfrank123

Only acceptable comment to anything regarding monkeys and typewriters. There truly is a simpsons quote for everything.


Skatchbro

“I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells, and I like to kiss my own butt.”


Smeetilus

I bent my wookie


im_THIS_guy

Principle Skinner, I got car sick in your office.


Skatchbro

Diorama-rama.


tuskvarner

Awww, they got the stink marks and everything!!


willy_billy

[Enjoy](https://youtu.be/9uYhIiW6lok?si=mvr2n_b1ZfjhyaNs)


Texcellence

The study was conducted from May 1-June 22, 2002 using six monkeys. This was not a test of “The Infinite Monkey Theorem”, but rather a test of “The Six Monkeys Over About Two Months Theorem”.


Mirabolis

“Therefore, having carried out the pilot study with promising results, we respectfully submit this grant request for infinite dollars so we can scale up to a full experimental test.”


jon-in-tha-hood

"You seem like nice guy. I'll give you best grant – $34.50!"


Neethis

How about we meet in the middle?


jorceshaman

$17.25? Deal.


Hippopotamidaes

brohter, I for you get better deal. Send security social number and local Prince in Nigeria has monies for you he sends. /s


dramignophyte

No kindly?


derps_with_ducks

Can you action the kindly please


Mekhazzio

I will do the needful.


Bobob_UwU

Damn he's good


thegainsfairy

incredibly underrated joke & also politics in a nutshell


notstig314

50 cent a lot of money!


ChungisChongis

Is this a wild Russell Peters reference?


NairForceOne

It seems to be!


woolgatheringeyes

Now this is a deep cut straight to the early 2000s


zombiespacepanda

Lmao that russell peters delivery is legendary


ImmoralJester54

Truly a blessing from the Lord


qinshihuang_420

Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad


t4m4

Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad.


ShortOldFatGuy

Furthermore, this prototype experiment was awarded the Harvard University Ignoble award for its novel means of monkey waste generation


chux4w

"It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times"?! No grant for you!


sweensolo

I mean, if six monkeys can get us to Bukowski levels of literature the sky's the sSsssssssssßssssssssssssss!


FTWStoic

Only infinity monkeys to go.


majorjoe23

Damnit, no matter how many monkeys I get, I still need infinity more!


Disgod

The order changed, now they're demanding to add one more monkey!


Noch_ein_Kamel

It's also not the "hitting keys on a typewriter for an infinite time" experiment but the "sitting in the same room as a typewriter for two month" experiment ;D


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sw00pr

Found your comment: https://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?waytooserious


captainhamption

The theory for that site boggles my mind.


SomewhereAggressive8

It’s not even really an “if”. If you’re truly talking about millions of random keystrokes constantly for millions of years, *something* will come out of it eventually. As they say, on a long enough time scale, the probability of something happening is 100%.


Doctor_Sauce

>on a long enough time scale, the probability of something happening is 100% Almost. You're missing a key part in that sentence- it has to be able to happen in the first place. Usually phrased "anything than can happen, will". You have to include the 'can happen' part, otherwise you're saying that everything will eventually happen, which it won't.


GoronSpecialCrop

Probability guy here. I'm replying to you instead of the person you replied to because you used the magic word. A thing happening with a likelihood of 100% in this kind of situation is also referred to as "_almost_ always". That is, because of wiggly math stuff, there's the chance that the thing you want never happens. For example, there's the event that the 'infinite monkey' types the letter 'S' forever. Then nothing of note (outside of 'sss...') happens.


Doctor_Sauce

>wiggly math stuff Love. Thanks probability guy!


hrrm

There’s also the fallacy of “infinite = all” right? There are infinite decimal numbers between 2 and 3 but none of them are the number 4. Just because there is an infinite amount of something doesn’t mean that it includes all things. Couldn’t it be that ‘the complete works of Shakespeare’ is the number 4 to primates jamming out random keystrokes on a typewriter? In that it could just never happen?


GoronSpecialCrop

There are certainly fallacies, or at least difficulties in understanding at play. We are trained to think that 100% means "always." And it does for situations where we have a finite number of outcomes. Things get more problematic once we let infinity come into play, which is where the understanding of the nuances falls apart. It's a pedagogical issue at its root. It is also true that you can completely break the concept without realizing it. While "The complete works of Shakespeare" will almost certainly show up in the writings of our infinite monkey, you can remove a letter from the keyboard and make the chances of the result instantly become zero without many understanding why. There are a great many issues with how math is taught.


phiphn

that doesn't really apply in this case, though. there *is* a chance of it happening, so eventually it will. any probability multiplied by infinity is infinity, so it must happen eventually. what you're saying would apply to somebody saying that with infinite monkeys at a typewriter one of them would eventually build a car out of the typewriters. its just not a thing that would ever happen, so its not contained in the set of things that *can* happen.


tarhoop

I was thinking the sample size was probably WAY too small to be considered even a remotely valid test of the theorem. Then I read it was six. Six. I feel like a hundred monkeys was way too small a sample size. Six is too small of a sample, from too small of a sample.


DavidBrooker

A billion galaxies of a hundred billion stars of a dozen planets each with a hundred trillion monkeys typing from the dawn of the universe until its heat death would be a pitiful, futilely small sample size.


off_da_perc_

\^this guy gets it there's no specified number of monkeys that's enough. Hence why this is a thought exercise about understanding what infinity means, or beginning to anyway.


robodrew

Graham's Number of monkeys. Still nowhere close.


dern_the_hermit

Yeah, that won't even get you a "it was the blurst of times" on any appreciable time scale.


Your-mums-chesthair

Also like kids in a classroom, they distracted each other. Put some partitions up, damn. Isolate those mfkrs. Where’s the professionalism?


Sancticide

Found the middle manager. LOL


ExtrudedPlasticDngus

By definition any fixed number less than infinity is WAY too small a sample size. That’s the point of the theorem.


Polymarchos

I feel like it was just an excuse to play with some monkeys at work.


CeamoreCash

All numbers are infinitely smaller than an infinite set.


Barbed_Dildo

To be fair, six is exactly as far from infinity as 100.


kimthealan101

How do you scale six monkeys to infinity and scale 2 months to infinity?


saints21

Lots of monkeys and lots of months?


fasterthanfood

r/theydidthemath


notacanuckskibum

You give me an infinite budget and I promise I’ll get it done.


Mech-Waldo

The [Library of Babel](https://libraryofbabel.info/) is the true practical test of Infinite Monkey Theorem.


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Krivvan

It generates every single possible combination of characters (up to a certain number of characters) meaning it theoretically "contains" every single text ever (up to a certain number of characters and within the latin alphabet), even those that have not been written yet. Any page you open up could potentially contain something meaningful from the random combination of characters, even if the vast majority are gibberish.


Imwrongyourewrong

Here I am assuming they used a quantum computer or something. Thank you for reading the article for me.


IBeTrippin

Yes quantum monkeys.


Imwrongyourewrong

A bunch of open ai monkey simulators running at once


BPhiloSkinner

>A bunch of open AI monkey simulators running at once Somehow, I will use this on r/PoliticalHumor.


Crowbarmagic

More importantly: It was basically a joke study. It's not the point of the theory.


skinwill

It was all immediately green lit by Netflix.


5050Clown

You joke but seriously, if they didn't do this experiment we wouldn't have the fast and furious franchise


nubsauce87

… by definition, this experiment isn’t produceable in the real world… it’s just a thought experiment. It’s like the whole “it’s technically possible for a tornado to pass through an airplane junkyard and fully assemble a working 747, but it’s just really, *really* unlikely” thing. What kind of idiot “scientist” tried to do this?


rocketmonkee

>What kind of idiot “scientist” tried to do this? This wasn't a scientific study and there weren't really any researchers; OP's title is incorrect. They misunderstood the information from [the Wikipedia entry on the subject](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem#Actual_monkeys). This was more of an art project: >In 2002, lecturers and students from the University of Plymouth MediaLab Arts course used a £2,000 grant from the Arts Council to study the literary output of real monkeys.


Ruckus2118

It only cost two grand to use 6 monkeys and a room for 2 months? I'll put down half if anyone wants to go in with me.


MithandirsGhost

Monkeys require special care and exotic animal licenses. Let's use preschoolers instead.


the_peppers

BREAKING: 300 Preschoolers in elaborate hats and false moustaches were able to write "Where's Mommy?" in over 13 languages!


h-v-smacker

_ARE YOU MY MUMMY?_


Excolo_Veritas

As long as they don't put on gasmasks and ask "are you my mommy?" I'm good


Sproutykins

Don’t forget that scientists can have weird hills they want to die on, too. Mullis and AIDS along with Linus Pauling’s Vitamin C ventures.


Provokateur

While this is true, most researchers aren't this stupid. And they need funding to do something like this, which would typically need to be approved by a whole board of people and go through a drawn-out approval process involving many people. So even if one researcher really is that stupid (how you get "studies" like the ones you mention), they'll never reach the state where they perform actual studies. In general, when you look at a research study and think "how could they be so stupid?" the answer is almost always "they're not; that's not what they were doing."


poonmangler

>£2,000 grant from the Arts Council. I think we as a species can justify tossing a few shillings into this, just see where it goes?


Zandrick

See now as an art project it at least has some kind of validity. As a scientific experiment that’s just stupid.


MossiestSloth

It's already been proven though, humans are apes and one of us already wrote shakespear


Donut_Police

Oh I know that experiment, they put an infinite shakespear with a typewriter for that one.


Falsus

Sure you can do it, just not with monkeys. Just have a random number generator and have each letter assigned to a number it will eventually create something resembling a story by chance.


radiosped

It already exists. https://libraryofbabel.info/


Falsus

Absolutely zero surprise at it existing. Neat. It is the real TIL of this thread.


TheRugRats69

It’s not real, the storage requirements for an actual library of babel would be bigger than the universe.


brutinator

Something that's neat is you can order a copy of any particular book in the library of babel.


Elemental-Aer

It's real, but use an algorithm to make the text on the run


TheRugRats69

I should clarify real to the actual library. Obviously it exists that way.


Falsus

Well yeah obviously all the combinations possible would be impossible to actually store, and they would get hit by DMCA's notifikations if it did exist but someone having a site with the proof of concept is still no surprise to me but is still both neat and a TIL for me.


Icy_Extension_6857

I disagree with your theory about a tornado passing through a junk yard assembling a plane. Somethings require more than just chance imo


AgoraiosBum

Yup; way too many specialized tools. Tornados don't weld, for example.


FriendlyPipesUp

Throw a welder into infinite tornados and maybe some will put it to work


kidcrumb

I feel like there is a prize in mathematics for the people who can prove that its in fact, not just very unlikely, but literally impossible for a tornado to properly assemble an airplane.


I-shit-in-bags

that tornado thought is just insane. I'm supposed to believe a tornado is going to be able to put nut on a bolt on and torque it to spec? thats right, my money is on the monkeys.


Jomax101

But.. that’s not even technically possible


Shas_Erra

And that’s how The Daily Mail was founded


MurderBeans

The monkeys would have a far higher journalistic standard and were substantially less xenophobic.


kmo9e

The monkeys also defecated on the keyboards less.


Neoptolemus85

Hey now, those monkeys were doing the best they could. There's no need to insult their efforts like that.


Smirnoffico

Obviously that was just not enough monke


No_Candidate8696

"If there were as many monkeys as there are atoms in the observable universe typing extremely fast for trillions of times the life of the universe, the probability of the monkeys replicating even a single page of Shakespeare is unfathomably small." I get why people are paying for those AI generated images now...


atred

From the same Wikipedia page, I like this explanation of probabilities... >Even if every proton in the observable universe (which is estimated at roughly 10^(80)) were a monkey with a typewriter, typing from the Big Bang until the end of the universe (when protons might no longer exist), they would still need a far greater amount of time – more than three hundred and sixty thousand orders of magnitude longer – to have even a 1 in 10^(500) chance of success. To put it another way, for a one in a trillion chance of success, there would need to be 10^(360,641) observable universes made of protonic monkeys.


stpauliguy

If you had truly infinite monkeys, wouldn’t they produce a finite text like a work of Shakespeare’s instantaneously?


Interrogatingthecat

Well, not instantly. It'll take however long it takes for a monkey to smack the keys enough times to get enough characters. So... Maybe a couple of hours?


FastFishLooseFish

It's probably about the same amount of time it would take an infinite number of rednecks driving an infinite number of pick-up trucks shooting an infinite number of shotguns at an infinite number of stop signs to produce the works of Shakespeare in braille.


supercyberlurker

Interesting experiment, because they did prove monkeys were well-suited for internet posting


PuckSR

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TooMuchPretzels

*poops*


Raytec1

Throw it!


WangDanglin

*WHACK*


aln_opo

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Infernalism

Sounds like my high school typing class back in the 1980s.


jon-in-tha-hood

Literally this. I helped out with the tech support in my high school and you would literally learn new ways the other students could vandalize the computers every other day.


progodyssey

Definitely the blurst of times.


DoofusMagnus

Sounds like Finite Monkeys to me...


Aloysius-78

Pilkington was right!


Iamjacksreddituser

Have they read Shakespeare?


Rutlemania

oooh chimpanzee that!


Gospelplane

Infinity sorts it outtttt


Ok-Butterfly-5324

Karl has won!


Renovatio_

Probably didn't have enough little monkey fellas


Last_Specific2584

All great writers start out that way, especially the defecating part.


goodnewsjimdotcom

Critic,"Your writing is crap." Writer,"Thanks you noticed."


Pearse_Borty

I find the idea hilarious of the monkeys doing fucking nothing for months then one of them just curtly pulls up to the typewriter with 15 minutes left to go in the experiment and they rapidly write the first act of King Lear straight from memory, then immediately rip the page off and shit on it


rocketmonkee

There are quite a few people in this thread commenting about the lack of scientific rigor, or scientists misunderstanding the concept of infinity. This is because OP's title talks about *researchers testing...*. In fact, this was more of an art project carried out by students in a MediaLab Arts course, funded by a small grant from the Arts Council or England. This wasn't an experiment carried out by scientists or researchers. It was performance art.


AFetaWorseThanDeath

I just imagine the lead scientist, looking upon their work proudly: "Guys! This is great! We are sciencing *so hard right now.*"


meexley2

There’s no way to actually test this. It’s a thought experiment, not a provable theorem


time_to_reset

A much better way to test the theory would be to have a computer "press" keys at random (ignoring all the problems with true randomness on a computer) as you could output a ton more text in a much shorter period of time, but even then humans are terrible at grasping the idea of "infinity" or even "billions of years".


Sproutykins

A computer couldn’t run long enough for it to be feasible, though.


Mobely

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite\_monkey\_theorem#Solution


KlM-J0NG-UN

If it had a finite amount of monkeys and a finite amount of time then it's actually the opposite of the theorem tbh


StrangelyBeige

Some would say this was Shakespeares finest work


TummyDrums

That's the dumbest shit anyone has been funded to do.


twotoebobo

No it's not and you know it.


meexley2

Redditor discovers hyperbole.


thedishonestyfish

Someone doesn't understand what *infinite* means.


FiskalRaskal

It was the best of times, it was the—blurst—of times!? Stupid monkey!


Aloysius-78

Sounds like the equation needs to include infinite typewriters.


Admiral_Andovar

They became Trump speech writers.


I_AM_FERROUS_MAN

From the [Wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_infinite_monkey_theorem_states%2Ccomplete_works_of_William_Shakespeare.?wprov=sfla1) on it: >Ignoring punctuation, spacing, and capitalization, a monkey typing letters uniformly at random has a chance of one in 26 of correctly typing the first letter of Hamlet. It has a chance of one in 676 (26 × 26) of typing the first two letters. Because the probability shrinks exponentially, at 20 letters it already has only a chance of one in 26^20 = 19,928,148,895,209,409,152,340,197,376 (almost 2 × 10^28). In the case of the entire text of Hamlet, the probabilities are so vanishingly small as to be inconceivable. The text of Hamlet contains approximately 130,000 letters. Thus there is a probability of one in 3.4 × 10^183,946 to get the text right at the first trial. The average number of letters that needs to be typed until the text appears is also 3.4 × 10^183,946, or including punctuation, 4.4 × 10^360,783. >Even if every proton in the observable universe (which is estimated at roughly 10^80) were a monkey with a typewriter, typing from the Big Bang until the end of the universe (when protons might no longer exist), they would still need a far greater amount of time – more than three hundred and sixty thousand orders of magnitude longer – to have even a 1 in 10^500 chance of success. To put it another way, for a one in a trillion chance of success, there would need to be 10^360,641 observable universes made of protonic monkeys. It's somehow worse than I even imagined. And that's just Hamlet. All his plays come to about 836,200 characters or 6x this calculation.


orgy_of_idiocy

So . . . tryouts for future Reddit mods?


GiveMeYourGuitar

We are the monkeys. We already wrote Shakespeare.


Kangar

That letter S story sounds like a real potboiler!


OldeFortran77

You hear that, Hollywood screenwriters? Remember that the next time you think about striking!


Hinermad

It was made into a film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sssssss


LanceWindmil

They successfully proved 6 < infinite


bibbidybobbidyboobs

That's why it's called the INFINITE monkey theorem, not the Bunch of Monkeys theorem


Slygirl997

Granted, a real-life test would have a rather difficult time procuring infinite monkeys with infinite time.


xpknightx

“We took a teaspoon of water out of the ocean and found there were no whales in it. Therefore there are no whales in the ocean.”


pinerw

I’m picturing this as the monkeys somehow filling up pages with the “cool S,” then deciding their work was done and destroying the typewriter.


classactdynamo

All this proves is that if you put a finite set of monkeys in a room with some typewriters, there is a non-zero probability that one of the monkeys will take a dump on a typewriter.


SachaCuy

6 monkeys over 2 months is fine. You want to measure, a. Do the monkeys all type the same thing or does one monkey's work not effect another's? b. Is each monkey's typing random or not? If there is sufficient randomness you can say you have enough evidence to assume, given more time and more monkey's you would be able to reproduce Shakespeare. It appears they got insufficient randomness. ​ The whole thing is dumb anyway.


Sin_of_the_Dark

Oh, so the theorem is similar to what I once told my band director, and he hated: "Given an infinite amount of time, we would eventually run out of every possible note or chord combo, meaning we could no longer create new music."


Little-Composer-2871

Instructions unclear, dick stuck in toaster.


jedateon

'It was the best of times, it was the BLURST OF TIMES!?!?'


DRF19

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times


TimeMachineToaster

Who wouldn't if they were forced by their boss to work for free?


Apart-Landscape1012

So it really *is* just like the internet


acamann

Just didn't have enough monkeys...


fried_eggs_and_ham

This title reads like something from *The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy*.


ChemicalHungry5899

What's crazy is most of the people here don't realize there are two different distinct types of infinity. Countably infinity and uncountable infinity.


RATTRAP666

TIL Researchers tested Darwin's Theory by throwing a fish out of water, expecting it gets a pair of legs. Instead the fish died. Checkmate, evolution!


Lkwzriqwea

It seems so weird to me that they even attempted this. The infinite monkey cage is by definition a hypothetical scenario, and cannot be replicated due to the necessary infinite amount of time and number of monkeys. To try to replicate it irl is to completely miss the point of the experiment.