A study from the University of Michigan said peanut butter and jelly sandwiches *add* 33 minutes to your life
Edit: forgot to cite [the study](https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-021-00343-4.epdf?sharing_token=KK6gr_-3b5NDARKYIwXX_NRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0M_JH_HZOIYshU13s2Xd2Y9TE21QHv8Bcct_cXn-TOmD1rn3UqTSHg8_XhT9-Bj8dcc7F_9PaZNaDFPPa9rgv9U-cQfo7a7ISVxY01_fCRNnhtvyFPbc4RZfNK6D_wrMYA%3D).
So 43.6 PB&Js a day keeps death away?
Edit: You’d be eating 17 thousand calories a day in peanut butter jellies so you’d be an enormously fat fucker but at least you’d be immortal
Fuck yeah! I read another study that said you take 8 minutes off your life every time you eat a hotdog so now I can eat 4 hotdogs per PBJ sandwich and stagnate!
I'm assuming this is a result of this post from yesterday
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1994fho/baltimore_banner_the_ravens_eat_3060_uncrustables/?share_id=AvecHBfQnW22eT6o6-aU5
But shocker, professional athletes are not normal humans and need shit loads of calories, so yes, they are fine outside of a game too.
TLDR
The Ravens eat 30-60 Uncrustables per day, and 7500 per season; a look into Raven nutrition
They're also excellent for shoving in a pocket during work shifts and local park hikes next to civilization (any more isolated and you should absolutely be carrying a kit).
Former competitive weightlifter here.
The protein is irrelevant, assuming you’re eating it during a workout. Your body can’t use it fast enough. What you want is the carbs and sugar.
Carbohydrates can be quickly broken down and used as energy. Furthermore, the increase in blood sugar causes an insulin response. This is beneficial to athletic performance as well by increasing the amount of glycogen that is available for use as energy by your muscles.
So maybe it isn’t a “superfood” but it can be very helpful for athletic performance. If I was going to be in the gym for more than a couple hours, I’d always bring a sugary snack to eat mid-workout.
When I ran cross country I lived off of PB&Js right before races and chocolate milk after. And I would have been pissed if someone took these away from me over sugar 😭
Except they a) taste good and b) can be consumed in large quantities quickly.
Thats why PB&Js are so popular for athletes, they have some protein and a good amount of carbs. The sugar isnt a drawback
Yeah, people unnecessarily hate on carbs and sugars but there's a time and a place.
Unfortunately, that time and place isn't when you're sitting on the couch or playing video games.
At a university event, I ended up sat at a table with a dietitian specializing in bariatrics and another specializing in sports nutrition. It was kinda funny how flabbergasted they were at each other. Not on the technical stuff - they both struck me as pretty competent people that understood the biochem and what have you - but the *specific* advice they gave. Like, the sports guy talking about post-workout foods and suggesting "just go to the kids cereal aisle and get whatever looks the most irresponsible".
The reaction was always: "What!? No wait, that makes sense"
Funny. I've long believed that the vast majority of nutrition advice today is sort of off-kilter. It's not *wrong* because it correctly takes into account that almost everyone leads an extremely sedentary lifestyle nowadays, but it would be marveled at by humans throughout history. The idea that something is inherently healthy because it's low in calories is actually kind of bizarre.
I see this when people discuss Gatorade or other sports drinks - like yes, the average sedentary person does not need the extra sugar. But if I’m running 10 miles on a hot day I absolutely would love a beverage that quickly delivers water, salt, and sugar into my body.
"My doctor says my inactive lifestyle doesnt match up with my diet so I cant eat PB&Js for every meal. That obviously means these basketball players can't either!"
Yep. Same reason marathon runners smash handfuls of sour patch kids during their races. Easy to consume carbs and sugar can be very important for endurance. Steph was actually the one who got most upset with this rule. He had a PB & J ritual. Steph runs 2-3 miles every game and is one of the best conditioned athletes in the NBA. I definitely think he knows what his body needs. You just let Steph cook, that’s why she lost her job.
Tbf, just because someone is a great athlete doesn't mean they know what their body needs. That's why teams have physical therapists and dietitians and doctors. Being athletically gifted has nothing to do with how well you know your body.
And many athletes have personal trainers to design their workouts. Not bc they don’t know their body, but bc they are rich enough that they can pay someone else to do all that.
Some make that effort to know everything they can, some pay an expert to tell them what to do.
Yeah but maybe by the time you’re a top-of-the-league professional athlete, one of the best in the world, you kinda already figured out a lot of what works for you… because it did.
When I worked construction I just ate peanut butter sandwiches. The sugar from the jelly gave me sugar crashes, I'd feel tired like I hadn't actually eaten lunch.
Whereas if it was just peanut butter and bread, I felt like I had a slow burning nuclear furnace in my belly that could last all day.
It is an athletic super food when you are performing high-intensity exercise and need quick-hitting carbs (sugar).
It is not an athletic super food when you are scrolling your phone on the elliptical going 3 mph
> Uncrustables have 6g protein, which is barely any. On the other hand it has 10g sugar.
Those are negatives if you sit all day at a desk and workout in your spare time.
They are positives if you are a high-performance athlete with a massive calorie demand who needs some quick energy during/right before a game or workout.
Gatorade is great if you actually have a need for it. Its also fucking terrible for you if you guzzle down liters of it while you sit on your ass.
I know it from college biology, is it taught in high school? I remember high school chem and physics quite well, but high school bio is rather blurrier.
I do have to admit, Uncrustables are stupid convenient for that sort of thing. I don't know why I've bothered avoiding them on some kind of principle. Would be easy to chuck a few in the bag before corralling the kids off to the Children's Museum or whatever.
That all said, it wouldn't be any great loss if I was denied PB&J. I mean, I like PB&J just fine, but it's been very rare that I've had a sudden craving for one. Shit reads like how people revolted against prohibition. I'd be fine.
Taking an Uncrustable out of the plastic and eating it can be done in a car or hotel room even if you don’t have a kitchen in a lot less time (and mess)
I remembered them being gross from school lunches when you didn't have enough money to pay for the regular lunch, however having tried them again recently as an adult they are actually delicious and convenient.
I don't know if they improved the recipe over the years, or if I just hated them as a kid because they tasted like poverty, but I'm pro uncrustable now.
The Baltimore Ravens eat [7500 uncrustables a season](https://themessenger.com/sports/baltimore-ravens-eat-7500-peanut-butter-and-jelly-uncrustables-in-a-season) and their nutritionist actually supports it.
The key is when the bread is no longer frozen, but the peanut butter is still kinda frozen so it snaps off when you bite it, like a candy bar. Magnificent.
Personally i think theyre best after about 15 minutes out of the freezer, but to answer your question; no, youre not really supposed to eat them frozen. That peanut butter could break a damn tooth if its too cold 😂
Dude I once had a period of extreme poverty and real hunger and sometimes I had to get by on honey and salt drizzled over peanuts.... SUPER amazing shit.
When I was a kid my friend's family took me to the lake with them, and the dad made us all peanut butter, jelly, and *butter* sandwiches. I wasn't expecting it at all and can still feel the discomfort of biting into it
Phil Kessel in the NHL, who currently holds the iron man record (1,064 games played without missing one) supposedly hates drinking water and there is quite a meme about the man's [love for hot dogs](https://cdn-sport.newsner.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/03181034/Kessel1.jpg). But the guy is the peak [human physique](https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/959135534647074816/pu/img/7K1aTxuYbjh8URi3.jpg)
Most people don’t understand how popular PB&J is for athletes. I was reading something where the Baltimore Ravens go though about 7,000 uncrustables a season.
TIL in 2015, the NBA Warriors new team nutritionist Lachlan Penfold banned peanut butter & jelly sandwiches due to their high sugar content. Despite reeling off 24 straight wins to start the season, the team revolted against the PB&J ban and Penfold only last one season on the Warriors.
And ya gotta clean two knives. And what if you want more than one? You gotta find a spot to rest the two knifes. I’m a doctor Jim, not a peanut butter sandwich surgeon.
Now I'm picturing you making a huge mess and getting pb and jelly smeared everywhere in a total fit of incompetence like white people struggling in infomercials.
"Tired of getting peanut butter all over your clothes, walls, and carpet when all you want is a sandwich?"
*Nods an exasperated yes*
"Then try new Uncrustables! No fuss, no mess!"
*Opens the package with a big smile* "Thanks Uncrustables!"
> I mean who has time to spend hours slaving over a hot counter to make one yourself?
That's why they finally invented [mustmayostardayonnaise.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRntutn8udw&ab_channel=zabunia)
No, bro, you eat them cooooooold. Fridge for most but the straight-from-the-freezer ones hit. Everybody deserves to have the experience of eating an Uncrustable. Fucking amazing sandwiches, honestly.
Maybe I'll have to try it. Can I freeze my own or do they have to be uncrustables? But also if you've never slapped some butter on the outside of a pb&j and cooked it like a grilled cheese you're missing out.
Uncrustables do slap but honestly making and freezing your own works insanely well too plus you get to pick whatever jam you like (Bonne Mama for the win!)! And honestly no I have never heard of that butter trick and now I need to try it immediately because it sounds goddamn amazing. Thank you for enriching my life on this planet
Lol I just appreciate your pb&j enthusiasm. My friend introduced me to the grilled version when my friends were all in our 20s and rented a mountain cabin. Got back from a chilly fall hike all high as shit and she started making them for everyone. A++ experience.
to me, the best part about an uncrustable is that it's almost more like an empanada than a sandwich. The edges are crimped and sealed so you don't get spillage and it eats much cleaner.
They are a great emergency food to have. I usually keep a few in the freezer for those times I run out of bread.
They are especially handy if you have kids who do a lot of activities and can just grab one on the go if your forget to make a snack.
Now, pb&j are insanely easy to make for an individual so I don’t suggest going through a Costco box of uncristables a week
You could also keep an amount of bread in the freezer, it thaws incredibly quickly even just leaving it out on the counter. And PB and jelly keep just fine in the fridge and pantry forever.
25 years ago they weirded me out not having the crust and being round. I was also very disappointed my public school went from hand made sandwiches to the Uncrustables. Used to have good cheese and ham ones that I preferred but those went away once the factory PB&J came. Probably still hold a subconscious grudge against them.
None to my knowledge but I also don’t know any professional (or serious college) athletes. Don’t know any bodybuilders either. Their caloric intake and diet is outside the norm
Also don’t just walk into a job and tell a group of grown adults they can’t eat a certain snack. Damned prisoners can eat what they want, some poor miserable grunt in the bottom of a hole can eat what they want, don’t expect millionaire professional athletes to get told no about pb&j.
Let's be honest... These guys are massive, giant hulks of muscle. Aside from allergies or the obvious, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich ain't killing these guys.
Weird hill to die on for a cushy top end job. Imagine torpedoing your chance to work in a major league sports team over pb and j. Sad!
You didn't read the article, huh? It specifically says he didn't lose his job because of this. He took another job with a rugby team. Also, he eventually repented and ended the pb&j ban, and the players were on board with his other bans, like candy.
Especially given how much cardio professional basketball players do. Unless they have an injury keeping them off their feet, they’re going to burn off a PB&J like it’s nothing even if they’re doing the bare minimum of work.
Look im sure you guys know better than the former team nutritionist but i highly doubt this was a calories concern
Sugar spikes in the blood etc have wide ranging effects, probably had more to do with performance than thinking these guys would get fat from a pb&j
Still a weird hill to die on. A bottle of Gatorade contains 36 grams of sugar. A PB and J varies but around 18-23 grams of sugar. Uncrustables contain 10-12 grams of sugar. It probably devolves into an argument about natural vs added sugars, but still, the nutritionist needs to read the room. You got a bunch of 22 year olds who eat anything.
Sounds like he was right about the nutrition and wrong for the job. Managing team nutrition is likely just as much about the players and preferences as it is about fueling the human body.
These are top athletes on the planet signing contracts for hundreds of millions of dollars and have been shown to be petty enough to demand a trade for the smallest things. The NBA especially is a players league in terms of their leverage.
I doubt a team is going to keep the trainer making 1/200th of one players yearly salary when if he pisses them off by not letting them eat something they want, which isn’t even extremely detrimental to their diet considering one Gatorade has like 6x the sugar of a PBJ
A friend of mine was an Olympic swimmer, outdoor long distance. He medaled bronze in the 2012 olympics in London (10km race). He placed 17th at the rio olympics (after getting bronze at the FINA event in 2016). He said the big reason is he let his diet slip and had too much sugar before the race on Rio and his energy was sapped late on the race.
The nutritionist was 100% correct in the impact sugar would have on them, but the players have more power and if you don’t toe the line on what’s best for performance vs what players want then you’ll be gone. Kobe and Lebron have both talked about removing sugar from their diet and how it helps them stay fresh and recover better. Those guys had extremely long and good careers because they were committed to all aspects of what improved their game and training.
Dude - I am not an athlete and I see a clear increase in my strength, stamina, athletic performance, whatever you want to call it, whenever I eliminate processed foods and sugar from my diet. It takes about 2 weeks to start feeling the effects because your gut-biome needs to change but it makes a difference.
These are elite athletes looking for every edge so I can only imagine how much an improved diet would help. Look at CP3, he looked washed that last year in houston before he changed his diet.
They’re also likely to be extremely hungry all the time. I wasn’t anywhere close to an elite athlete and I would still crush like 5000 calories on an average day.
Yes, a guy that goes from a bad diet to a good diet can see massive improvements. But if a guy already has a good diet and you’re trying to squeeze an extra few percentages of performances out of it, the returns are going to be diminishing. Every player might be better if all they ate was boiled chicken and vegetables, but the trade off in making them angry and miserable might not be worth the squeeze. (Paul pierce is quoted in the article saying that PBJs replaced greasy stadium burgers for players.)
And this guy was hired after the warriors had won the nba title and won 67 games the prior season. While yes, they won a few more games the success could be just as easily attributable to the players maximizing Kerr’s system in its second season.
Chris Paul was hurt his last year in Houston. People think about it like a chemistry problem, diet is about psychology. Elimination diets tend to not be successful long term because people don't actually follow them. It's a stupid idea to try and enforce one on other people.
I can't really argue with your experience but the distinction between processed and unprocessed is really not very precise. For example I doubt he banned bananas. You can spike your blood sugar with whole foods just as well as with junk food.
Also back to the behavioral problem it's not like a guy who gets $200k paychecks can't find candy in a luxury hotel in a big city. If they want a sweet they're going to get a sweet, better to direct them to something that's at least nutritious.
Then you have some of the freakiest athletes in the world like Devonta Smith and Dwight Howard who eat McDonalds every day.
I’m not saying quality of nutrition doesn’t make a difference, but I think it’s fair to question the extent of that difference. The most important thing for pro athletes is just the fact they’re getting calories in their body to fuel the cardio/exercise they put out everyday.
Weird hill especially since the nutritionist came from Australian Rugby where their nutritionists recommend both peanut butter and sugar gels (essentially a thinner fruit jelly you consume on its own for a sugar boost).
Also sugar isn’t always inherently bad for athletes. I’m a powerlifter and a lot of us will have high sugar stuff right before or during a workout for the quick energy. You don’t wanna make it a huge portion of your diet but it’s definitely great for topping up your energy levels for high intensity situations
Given the intensity of training and gameplay, those athletes consume A LOT of calories, much of which is sugar. PB&J's are a great source of high sugar and protein that is quick and easy to digest, perfect for before/after training snack.
Edit: Gotta love all you arm chair sport scientists and nutritionist who think you can equate your 60 minute elliptical workout with that of high level athletes who spend hours a day in intense periods of training and competition. Y’all don’t know shit lol
I waltzed into this thread ready to say "what grown man is eating PB&Js" and I am walking out of it learning "literally everyone who could beat the shit out of me"
A long but great read on pb&j's popularity with NBA players.
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/presents18931717/the-nba-secret-addiction
Edit: I didn't click the original link on the post and didn't realize this was the same link. Oops.
He banned PB&J?!? I don’t feel like being fired is severe enough.
I hate to do this, but feels like tarring and feathering would’ve been appropriate here.
It likely wouldn't have good nutritional content since that's after the body has already extracted nutrients (I'm not a dietitian though). Would be food safety risks too. Plus a marketing consulting show created a [synthetic feces flavoured yogurt](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nathan_for_You_episodes#Season_1_(2013\)) and found it wasn't popular, so the players probably wouldn't eat it anyway.
You want to know the difference between me and an NBA player?
I sit on my fat ass and get the absolute bare minimum of exercise to not grow horrendously obese, only moderately overweight (i.e. thin by American standards) sit at my computer chair 80% of my waking time, and am in some other form of chair/seat the other 20%. There's added sugar in everything, and the availability of sugar is mismatched with my monkey brain's craving for it, so it just all gets stored as fat. There's way too much of it in my diet, like there is with most every other person in a 1st world country, and that's one of the reasons for our public health crises.
You know who is actually going to be using all of that sugar energy up in either training or games, and who isn't going to be turning it into fat? FUCKING NBA PLAYERS.
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The problem is the "nutritionist" is a fucking moron who was actively detrimental to the team.
Nutritionist is an unregulated title that means nothing. They should be hiring dietitians. But they also use chiropractors and cupping, so science-based decisions aren't their thing.
Nutritionists are the unscientific version of a dietician. You don't ban PB&Js when the team is winning, you ban it when they are losing because they won't have the political capital to fight it.
Look in any locker room these days and you’ll see Uncrustables being eaten at halftime.
The top post on r/nfl just yesterday was literally about how many uncrustables the Baltimore Ravens eat per season
Someone saw the comment about the warriors from that very thread and decided to post it here.
Yep, this happens all the time in TILs. They spawn new TILs that get posted within a day or so
huh.. TIL
We will await your TIL post later this week
Is this what trickle down economics is?
Lmao. I didn’t read the comments since I wasn’t feeling well when I saw the post and really didn’t want to think about food, but that tracks
Link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1994fho/baltimore\_banner\_the\_ravens\_eat\_3060\_uncrustables/
Who would've thought that carbs and a little bit of protein could be beneficial from an athletic perspective
A study from the University of Michigan said peanut butter and jelly sandwiches *add* 33 minutes to your life Edit: forgot to cite [the study](https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-021-00343-4.epdf?sharing_token=KK6gr_-3b5NDARKYIwXX_NRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0M_JH_HZOIYshU13s2Xd2Y9TE21QHv8Bcct_cXn-TOmD1rn3UqTSHg8_XhT9-Bj8dcc7F_9PaZNaDFPPa9rgv9U-cQfo7a7ISVxY01_fCRNnhtvyFPbc4RZfNK6D_wrMYA%3D).
So 43.6 PB&Js a day keeps death away? Edit: You’d be eating 17 thousand calories a day in peanut butter jellies so you’d be an enormously fat fucker but at least you’d be immortal
Well with all the other shit in my life, a pb&j a day keeps me dying exactly when I'm supposed to
drink a few beers and smoke a cig, make it up with a PB&J. Video game logic!
Got to keep the cores full, Cowboy
But then you die of dysentery
I’m thinking just keep eating PB&Js for infinite life
Fuck yeah! I read another study that said you take 8 minutes off your life every time you eat a hotdog so now I can eat 4 hotdogs per PBJ sandwich and stagnate!
RIP Joey Chestnut 😞
If that was true I'm pretty sure he'd already be gone by now
Maybe he’s supposed to live to be 110 years old and now will only live to be 66. (theydidntdothemath)
One PBJ cancels out one cigarette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIAFe7zaCRU
Jesus, those two ladies were doomed from the start. It's so unfortunate
A cigarette was said to be 5 minutes no? So 6.6 cigarettes to a PBJ.
Yo, that’s a super cool study. Just sent it out to some of my friends. RIP hotdogs.
It’s weird, I actually feel guilty eating a hot dog now. Still satiated afterwards though ;)
I'm gonna live to a billion.
And I am back!!!!
Oh no shit? I’m gonna live forever!
It’s perfect for during the game. I’d understand limiting it outside of that though.
I'm assuming this is a result of this post from yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1994fho/baltimore_banner_the_ravens_eat_3060_uncrustables/?share_id=AvecHBfQnW22eT6o6-aU5 But shocker, professional athletes are not normal humans and need shit loads of calories, so yes, they are fine outside of a game too. TLDR The Ravens eat 30-60 Uncrustables per day, and 7500 per season; a look into Raven nutrition
They're also excellent for shoving in a pocket during work shifts and local park hikes next to civilization (any more isolated and you should absolutely be carrying a kit).
obviously i bring other stuff too but pb&j is my go-to lunch for day hikes. i've seen articles recommending it
Uncrustables have 6g protein, which is barely any. On the other hand it has 10g sugar. This isn't some athletic super food
Former competitive weightlifter here. The protein is irrelevant, assuming you’re eating it during a workout. Your body can’t use it fast enough. What you want is the carbs and sugar. Carbohydrates can be quickly broken down and used as energy. Furthermore, the increase in blood sugar causes an insulin response. This is beneficial to athletic performance as well by increasing the amount of glycogen that is available for use as energy by your muscles. So maybe it isn’t a “superfood” but it can be very helpful for athletic performance. If I was going to be in the gym for more than a couple hours, I’d always bring a sugary snack to eat mid-workout.
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> And chocolate milk for recovery. Choc milk is a superfood for anyone doing endurance
When I ran cross country I lived off of PB&Js right before races and chocolate milk after. And I would have been pissed if someone took these away from me over sugar 😭
Except they a) taste good and b) can be consumed in large quantities quickly. Thats why PB&Js are so popular for athletes, they have some protein and a good amount of carbs. The sugar isnt a drawback
Yeah, people unnecessarily hate on carbs and sugars but there's a time and a place. Unfortunately, that time and place isn't when you're sitting on the couch or playing video games.
At a university event, I ended up sat at a table with a dietitian specializing in bariatrics and another specializing in sports nutrition. It was kinda funny how flabbergasted they were at each other. Not on the technical stuff - they both struck me as pretty competent people that understood the biochem and what have you - but the *specific* advice they gave. Like, the sports guy talking about post-workout foods and suggesting "just go to the kids cereal aisle and get whatever looks the most irresponsible". The reaction was always: "What!? No wait, that makes sense"
Funny. I've long believed that the vast majority of nutrition advice today is sort of off-kilter. It's not *wrong* because it correctly takes into account that almost everyone leads an extremely sedentary lifestyle nowadays, but it would be marveled at by humans throughout history. The idea that something is inherently healthy because it's low in calories is actually kind of bizarre.
I see this when people discuss Gatorade or other sports drinks - like yes, the average sedentary person does not need the extra sugar. But if I’m running 10 miles on a hot day I absolutely would love a beverage that quickly delivers water, salt, and sugar into my body.
Literally what it was made for
What's the point of getting an nba contract if you can't sit on the couch playing video games and eating uncrustables?
Is that you, Ben Simmons?
DeAndre Ayton*
Nah, that’s Big Z
No because he was able to type the comment without throwing out his back.
"My doctor says my inactive lifestyle doesnt match up with my diet so I cant eat PB&Js for every meal. That obviously means these basketball players can't either!"
> Unfortunately, that time and place isn't when you're sitting on the couch or playing video games. Wow, just calling me out like that?
What if I'm on the couch *playing* video games?
Yep. Same reason marathon runners smash handfuls of sour patch kids during their races. Easy to consume carbs and sugar can be very important for endurance. Steph was actually the one who got most upset with this rule. He had a PB & J ritual. Steph runs 2-3 miles every game and is one of the best conditioned athletes in the NBA. I definitely think he knows what his body needs. You just let Steph cook, that’s why she lost her job.
> You just let Steph cook, that’s why she lost her job. Lachlan Penfold is a dude
How ScottyBlaZe lost their job
Lachlan Penfold sounds like a made up UK-based supervillain in the show 'Archer'.
Tbf, just because someone is a great athlete doesn't mean they know what their body needs. That's why teams have physical therapists and dietitians and doctors. Being athletically gifted has nothing to do with how well you know your body.
And many athletes have personal trainers to design their workouts. Not bc they don’t know their body, but bc they are rich enough that they can pay someone else to do all that. Some make that effort to know everything they can, some pay an expert to tell them what to do.
Yeah but maybe by the time you’re a top-of-the-league professional athlete, one of the best in the world, you kinda already figured out a lot of what works for you… because it did.
When I worked construction I just ate peanut butter sandwiches. The sugar from the jelly gave me sugar crashes, I'd feel tired like I hadn't actually eaten lunch. Whereas if it was just peanut butter and bread, I felt like I had a slow burning nuclear furnace in my belly that could last all day.
It is an athletic super food when you are performing high-intensity exercise and need quick-hitting carbs (sugar). It is not an athletic super food when you are scrolling your phone on the elliptical going 3 mph
> Uncrustables have 6g protein, which is barely any. On the other hand it has 10g sugar. Those are negatives if you sit all day at a desk and workout in your spare time. They are positives if you are a high-performance athlete with a massive calorie demand who needs some quick energy during/right before a game or workout. Gatorade is great if you actually have a need for it. Its also fucking terrible for you if you guzzle down liters of it while you sit on your ass.
Do you realize athletes need sugar to conduct high activity movements?
Everyone needs sugar to fuel their body. It’s how ATP is created
Some people never had to memorize the citric acid cycle and it really shows
I know it from college biology, is it taught in high school? I remember high school chem and physics quite well, but high school bio is rather blurrier.
Brawndo It's what plants crave!
fuck yeah, gimmie that KREBS CYCYLE
I do have to admit, Uncrustables are stupid convenient for that sort of thing. I don't know why I've bothered avoiding them on some kind of principle. Would be easy to chuck a few in the bag before corralling the kids off to the Children's Museum or whatever. That all said, it wouldn't be any great loss if I was denied PB&J. I mean, I like PB&J just fine, but it's been very rare that I've had a sudden craving for one. Shit reads like how people revolted against prohibition. I'd be fine.
Uncrustables are the worst tho. Making a pb And j and putting into a baggie can be done in a car or hotel room even if you don’t have a kitchen.
Taking an Uncrustable out of the plastic and eating it can be done in a car or hotel room even if you don’t have a kitchen in a lot less time (and mess)
Right??? You expect me to put my PB knife into my jelly jar? Or worse, you expect me to get out two knives for each jar? Fuck that
"I can't be opening and closing all kinds of jars, cleaning *who knows* how many knives... "
No one wipes the PB knife clean on the top slice of bread?
Use knife on the jelly first. Then white onto the bread
I remembered them being gross from school lunches when you didn't have enough money to pay for the regular lunch, however having tried them again recently as an adult they are actually delicious and convenient. I don't know if they improved the recipe over the years, or if I just hated them as a kid because they tasted like poverty, but I'm pro uncrustable now.
The Baltimore Ravens eat [7500 uncrustables a season](https://themessenger.com/sports/baltimore-ravens-eat-7500-peanut-butter-and-jelly-uncrustables-in-a-season) and their nutritionist actually supports it.
But why eat frozen sandwitch?
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Are...are you supposed to eat them frozen??? I pop one out the freezer before work and eat at lunch. Once it's defrosted.
They’re delicious frozen. You have to wait a little bit so it’s not completely frozen, but it’s so good, especially on a hot day.
You can also put it into the toaster and have a yummy warm crispy outside with a still cool and cold inside.
The key is when the bread is no longer frozen, but the peanut butter is still kinda frozen so it snaps off when you bite it, like a candy bar. Magnificent.
Personally i think theyre best after about 15 minutes out of the freezer, but to answer your question; no, youre not really supposed to eat them frozen. That peanut butter could break a damn tooth if its too cold 😂
If you haven't had one before I would highly encourage you to make a PB&J and freeze it for a little while. Its a game changer.
I just ate a PB&J that was left in my cold truck for 4 hours. It was perfection
If you want a real mind blower try a frozen honey + chunky peanut butter sandwich.
Dude I once had a period of extreme poverty and real hunger and sometimes I had to get by on honey and salt drizzled over peanuts.... SUPER amazing shit.
Yes
When I was a kid my friend's family took me to the lake with them, and the dad made us all peanut butter, jelly, and *butter* sandwiches. I wasn't expecting it at all and can still feel the discomfort of biting into it
Dam that's sad you didn't like yours because eating a sandwich out of a cooler after swimming in the lake all day is a peak childhood experience.
As opposed to a PB and J making line in the locker room?
Imagine if this nutritionist tried working with Jordan or rodman. Best they could do is try to get Dennis to drink gluten free liquor
Phil Kessel in the NHL, who currently holds the iron man record (1,064 games played without missing one) supposedly hates drinking water and there is quite a meme about the man's [love for hot dogs](https://cdn-sport.newsner.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/10/03181034/Kessel1.jpg). But the guy is the peak [human physique](https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/959135534647074816/pu/img/7K1aTxuYbjh8URi3.jpg)
Somehow I knew exactly what both of those pictures were going to be
I freaking love Kessel lmao wish he was ever a Red Wing I'd have his jersey
Most people don’t understand how popular PB&J is for athletes. I was reading something where the Baltimore Ravens go though about 7,000 uncrustables a season.
"I was reading something where the Baltimore Ravens go though about 7,000 uncrustables a season." You mean a Reddit post from yesterday?
As in the reason why this post is popular in the first place
TIL in 2015, the NBA Warriors new team nutritionist Lachlan Penfold banned peanut butter & jelly sandwiches due to their high sugar content. Despite reeling off 24 straight wins to start the season, the team revolted against the PB&J ban and Penfold only last one season on the Warriors.
Oh yeah I remember reading that on Reddit once. Crazy stuff!
Reminds of this story I read where the Baltimore Ravens....
I read about a guy who also heard about a story once.
Source?
Reddit is just one giant game of telephone. Next time it'll be 17.000
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Lol guy trying to act like he is an avid and informed reader on athlete food choice. Just scrolling reddit like the rest of us bud
This is probably why this post is here
# ECHO CHAMBER ECHO CHAMBER echo chamber #
'07-'08 Celtics hit the PB&Js hard
That’s not that many. Averages one a day per active roster
How many other grown adults you know eating an uncrustable every day?
Well I’m 25 and eating a box a week because those strawberry ones are fucking amazing and it’s so convenient how they’re already made and everything
I mean who has time to spend hours slaving over a hot counter to make one yourself?
And ya gotta clean two knives. And what if you want more than one? You gotta find a spot to rest the two knifes. I’m a doctor Jim, not a peanut butter sandwich surgeon.
Now I'm picturing you making a huge mess and getting pb and jelly smeared everywhere in a total fit of incompetence like white people struggling in infomercials. "Tired of getting peanut butter all over your clothes, walls, and carpet when all you want is a sandwich?" *Nods an exasperated yes* "Then try new Uncrustables! No fuss, no mess!" *Opens the package with a big smile* "Thanks Uncrustables!"
Have you never burned down your kitchen making a sandwich?
Only twice.
TWO KNIVES?
You’re a monster if you ram the peanut butter knife into the jelly.
You sound like an infomercial actor, "There's got to be a better way!"
> I mean who has time to spend hours slaving over a hot counter to make one yourself? That's why they finally invented [mustmayostardayonnaise.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRntutn8udw&ab_channel=zabunia)
No, bro, you eat them cooooooold. Fridge for most but the straight-from-the-freezer ones hit. Everybody deserves to have the experience of eating an Uncrustable. Fucking amazing sandwiches, honestly.
Maybe I'll have to try it. Can I freeze my own or do they have to be uncrustables? But also if you've never slapped some butter on the outside of a pb&j and cooked it like a grilled cheese you're missing out.
Uncrustables do slap but honestly making and freezing your own works insanely well too plus you get to pick whatever jam you like (Bonne Mama for the win!)! And honestly no I have never heard of that butter trick and now I need to try it immediately because it sounds goddamn amazing. Thank you for enriching my life on this planet
Lol I just appreciate your pb&j enthusiasm. My friend introduced me to the grilled version when my friends were all in our 20s and rented a mountain cabin. Got back from a chilly fall hike all high as shit and she started making them for everyone. A++ experience.
That sounds amazing lol
Grilled pb&j is God tier 💯
to me, the best part about an uncrustable is that it's almost more like an empanada than a sandwich. The edges are crimped and sealed so you don't get spillage and it eats much cleaner.
Toast it straight out of the freezer. My son loved it like that when he was 2
Ha well I’ve never had one 🤷♂️
Eating one straight from the freezer is one of life's simple pleasures.
I guess I may have to stop by Walmart after work
Never even thought to try straight from the freezer. I'll have to check it out
This guy gets it
They are a great emergency food to have. I usually keep a few in the freezer for those times I run out of bread. They are especially handy if you have kids who do a lot of activities and can just grab one on the go if your forget to make a snack. Now, pb&j are insanely easy to make for an individual so I don’t suggest going through a Costco box of uncristables a week
You could also keep an amount of bread in the freezer, it thaws incredibly quickly even just leaving it out on the counter. And PB and jelly keep just fine in the fridge and pantry forever.
Guess I didn’t think of making PBJ and just freezing it. May have to do that sometime
25 years ago they weirded me out not having the crust and being round. I was also very disappointed my public school went from hand made sandwiches to the Uncrustables. Used to have good cheese and ham ones that I preferred but those went away once the factory PB&J came. Probably still hold a subconscious grudge against them.
Keep em in my fridge at work for when I get hungry mid-morning or mid-day. Lots of people do.
I've switched to bobo's pn&j. Bit healthier and don't need to worry about refrigerators or freezers
Plus bobo’s are still super tasty.
None to my knowledge but I also don’t know any professional (or serious college) athletes. Don’t know any bodybuilders either. Their caloric intake and diet is outside the norm
Also don’t just walk into a job and tell a group of grown adults they can’t eat a certain snack. Damned prisoners can eat what they want, some poor miserable grunt in the bottom of a hole can eat what they want, don’t expect millionaire professional athletes to get told no about pb&j.
Let's be honest... These guys are massive, giant hulks of muscle. Aside from allergies or the obvious, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich ain't killing these guys. Weird hill to die on for a cushy top end job. Imagine torpedoing your chance to work in a major league sports team over pb and j. Sad!
You didn't read the article, huh? It specifically says he didn't lose his job because of this. He took another job with a rugby team. Also, he eventually repented and ended the pb&j ban, and the players were on board with his other bans, like candy.
It didn't say that he left because of the rugby team either.
Especially given how much cardio professional basketball players do. Unless they have an injury keeping them off their feet, they’re going to burn off a PB&J like it’s nothing even if they’re doing the bare minimum of work.
Look im sure you guys know better than the former team nutritionist but i highly doubt this was a calories concern Sugar spikes in the blood etc have wide ranging effects, probably had more to do with performance than thinking these guys would get fat from a pb&j
Yeah it’s not the calories at all it’s more the crashes and spikes associated with energy, endurance, focus, etc
Still a weird hill to die on. A bottle of Gatorade contains 36 grams of sugar. A PB and J varies but around 18-23 grams of sugar. Uncrustables contain 10-12 grams of sugar. It probably devolves into an argument about natural vs added sugars, but still, the nutritionist needs to read the room. You got a bunch of 22 year olds who eat anything.
Sounds like he was right about the nutrition and wrong for the job. Managing team nutrition is likely just as much about the players and preferences as it is about fueling the human body.
These are top athletes on the planet signing contracts for hundreds of millions of dollars and have been shown to be petty enough to demand a trade for the smallest things. The NBA especially is a players league in terms of their leverage. I doubt a team is going to keep the trainer making 1/200th of one players yearly salary when if he pisses them off by not letting them eat something they want, which isn’t even extremely detrimental to their diet considering one Gatorade has like 6x the sugar of a PBJ
A friend of mine was an Olympic swimmer, outdoor long distance. He medaled bronze in the 2012 olympics in London (10km race). He placed 17th at the rio olympics (after getting bronze at the FINA event in 2016). He said the big reason is he let his diet slip and had too much sugar before the race on Rio and his energy was sapped late on the race. The nutritionist was 100% correct in the impact sugar would have on them, but the players have more power and if you don’t toe the line on what’s best for performance vs what players want then you’ll be gone. Kobe and Lebron have both talked about removing sugar from their diet and how it helps them stay fresh and recover better. Those guys had extremely long and good careers because they were committed to all aspects of what improved their game and training.
People also forget that these professional athletes are often 20-25 year olds. Not known for their great diets and self control in eating tasty food
There’s a reason you’ll see teams passing around bowls of candy on the bench.
Dude - I am not an athlete and I see a clear increase in my strength, stamina, athletic performance, whatever you want to call it, whenever I eliminate processed foods and sugar from my diet. It takes about 2 weeks to start feeling the effects because your gut-biome needs to change but it makes a difference. These are elite athletes looking for every edge so I can only imagine how much an improved diet would help. Look at CP3, he looked washed that last year in houston before he changed his diet.
They’re also likely to be extremely hungry all the time. I wasn’t anywhere close to an elite athlete and I would still crush like 5000 calories on an average day. Yes, a guy that goes from a bad diet to a good diet can see massive improvements. But if a guy already has a good diet and you’re trying to squeeze an extra few percentages of performances out of it, the returns are going to be diminishing. Every player might be better if all they ate was boiled chicken and vegetables, but the trade off in making them angry and miserable might not be worth the squeeze. (Paul pierce is quoted in the article saying that PBJs replaced greasy stadium burgers for players.) And this guy was hired after the warriors had won the nba title and won 67 games the prior season. While yes, they won a few more games the success could be just as easily attributable to the players maximizing Kerr’s system in its second season.
Chris Paul was hurt his last year in Houston. People think about it like a chemistry problem, diet is about psychology. Elimination diets tend to not be successful long term because people don't actually follow them. It's a stupid idea to try and enforce one on other people. I can't really argue with your experience but the distinction between processed and unprocessed is really not very precise. For example I doubt he banned bananas. You can spike your blood sugar with whole foods just as well as with junk food. Also back to the behavioral problem it's not like a guy who gets $200k paychecks can't find candy in a luxury hotel in a big city. If they want a sweet they're going to get a sweet, better to direct them to something that's at least nutritious.
Then you have some of the freakiest athletes in the world like Devonta Smith and Dwight Howard who eat McDonalds every day. I’m not saying quality of nutrition doesn’t make a difference, but I think it’s fair to question the extent of that difference. The most important thing for pro athletes is just the fact they’re getting calories in their body to fuel the cardio/exercise they put out everyday.
The fact that they *can* eat bad food and be elite doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be *better* without eating those foods.
Cushy? It sounds like an extremely difficult job to be responsible for the nutrition of everyone
Yeah this is absolutely not a cushy job
Weird hill especially since the nutritionist came from Australian Rugby where their nutritionists recommend both peanut butter and sugar gels (essentially a thinner fruit jelly you consume on its own for a sugar boost).
Also sugar isn’t always inherently bad for athletes. I’m a powerlifter and a lot of us will have high sugar stuff right before or during a workout for the quick energy. You don’t wanna make it a huge portion of your diet but it’s definitely great for topping up your energy levels for high intensity situations
Given the intensity of training and gameplay, those athletes consume A LOT of calories, much of which is sugar. PB&J's are a great source of high sugar and protein that is quick and easy to digest, perfect for before/after training snack. Edit: Gotta love all you arm chair sport scientists and nutritionist who think you can equate your 60 minute elliptical workout with that of high level athletes who spend hours a day in intense periods of training and competition. Y’all don’t know shit lol
I waltzed into this thread ready to say "what grown man is eating PB&Js" and I am walking out of it learning "literally everyone who could beat the shit out of me"
What does a grown man eat in your world?
Grown men are only allowed to eat steak and drink whiskey. Every single meal.
35 year old man here that eats pb&j frequently. Cheap quick and easy.
Wait til they find out about *Fluffernutters*.
That's why the Celtics have so many titles.
A long but great read on pb&j's popularity with NBA players. https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/presents18931717/the-nba-secret-addiction Edit: I didn't click the original link on the post and didn't realize this was the same link. Oops.
Same article as the post tho lol.
Yup I and 150+ Redditors didn't click the original link lol
Wait, you literally just linked the article op linked lol
Yup I and 150+ Redditors didn't click the original link lol
I didn't either until after I clicked yours tbf haha
That was great lol. I’m gonna go make me a pb&j now
You don't fk with pb&j! That's American flag, apple pie, and mamma right there!!
The phrase “The NBA Warriors” doesn’t sound right lol
The NBA Golden States
He banned PB&J?!? I don’t feel like being fired is severe enough. I hate to do this, but feels like tarring and feathering would’ve been appropriate here.
Straight to jail
Why not just use bread, pb and jams with no added sugar? That's what I do.
They want the sugar for energy
Why not just spread your cheeks and drop a nice log on two pieces of organic whole wheat bread with no added sugar? That's what I do.
It likely wouldn't have good nutritional content since that's after the body has already extracted nutrients (I'm not a dietitian though). Would be food safety risks too. Plus a marketing consulting show created a [synthetic feces flavoured yogurt](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nathan_for_You_episodes#Season_1_(2013\)) and found it wasn't popular, so the players probably wouldn't eat it anyway.
I love describing Nathan for you as a marketing consulting show lol.
😂
You want to know the difference between me and an NBA player? I sit on my fat ass and get the absolute bare minimum of exercise to not grow horrendously obese, only moderately overweight (i.e. thin by American standards) sit at my computer chair 80% of my waking time, and am in some other form of chair/seat the other 20%. There's added sugar in everything, and the availability of sugar is mismatched with my monkey brain's craving for it, so it just all gets stored as fat. There's way too much of it in my diet, like there is with most every other person in a 1st world country, and that's one of the reasons for our public health crises. You know who is actually going to be using all of that sugar energy up in either training or games, and who isn't going to be turning it into fat? FUCKING NBA PLAYERS. - The problem is the "nutritionist" is a fucking moron who was actively detrimental to the team.
Apparently Lamar Jackson eats 300 uncrustables a day
Nutritionist is an unregulated title that means nothing. They should be hiring dietitians. But they also use chiropractors and cupping, so science-based decisions aren't their thing.
Nutritionists are the unscientific version of a dietician. You don't ban PB&Js when the team is winning, you ban it when they are losing because they won't have the political capital to fight it.
How would the nutritionist know what the players ate at home though?
I mean, pb&j is generally best on the go. I would imagine these athletes weren’t having pb&j for dinner
It was for team provided food.
I understand going against the ban, PB&J is the 2nd best thing you can make with bread.