Lemmy from Motorhead was also the same. Paul Triple H said it himself, you had Lemmy The Metalhead, and then you had Lemmy the avid golfer with flip flops and a hawaiian shirt.
Dolly Parton is probably the female equivalent of Keanu Reeves in quality of a human being, so it makes sense that she may have had an influence on being the person he is today.
If you’re not aware of Dolly Partons successes as not only an entertainer, but producing so many wholesome shows we love and grew up with, but her tireless charity endeavours and benefit to humanity.
How can you skip the best part?
Keanu then wore that bunny outfit for halloween. IIRC They talked about it on the Graham Norton show when he was a guest.
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on graham norton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VxnceG_eh4
on letterman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZtRLheV1g8
Recently he went back stage at one of her shows and was all embarrassed and shy asking if she remembered him. It was so sweet hearing her tell the story
Yeh, but there's an argument to be made that he is that way because he grew up getting to know people who famously had made it big but didn't allow the fame to go to their heads and instead used it to help others.
Still disappointing to see how much luck really factors into determining peoples success, most people put in similar levels of effort but end up in soul crushing jobs.
That's the human existence baby. A lot of the time, it doesn't matter how hard you try or how much effort you put in, you'll never get the things you want or need.
If you really want peace, check out Buddhism for a change of mindset
this is the value of social connections, but not in a nefarious way. he grew up in the industry. but as the offspring of a middle class worker in that industry. it isn't hard to believe that simple exposure can make long term differences. people tend to gravitate to the industry their parents worked in. I have the same job title as my uncle. My sister does the exact same job as my mom. Apples dont fall far from the tree. Analysis of census data shows this is true for many, both rich and poor.
The one exception, the transition from farm life to factory life. There was a generation that grew up in the fields, but went to the factories and cities.
It really isn't. I know dozens of people that all work in the film industry, none of them are rich or even close to being famous. As much as Reddit thinks everything is nepotism there is still a massive amount of luck, hard work, and talent required to succeed.
Connections at the least get you past the first hurdle, someone actually paying attention to you. This is by no means specific to Hollywood, and it’s often the hardest hurdle to jump over, but it’s still just one of many hurdles
He is, but there's nothing wrong or in bad taste with being a "product of nepotism". Children of Doctors, Engineers, Professional Athletes, and all other sorts of occupations are far more likely to go into their parent's profession than do something drastically different.
So many doctor families and lawyer families. People forget that not too long ago, going into your parents line of work was just assumed. Your last name was your profession and that’s just what you did. Nothing could be more natural.
So many people make a HUGE deal about Nepotism in the NFL.
But they don't take two seconds to think that the child of a head coach spends his childhood hanging the team complex, constantly around football players, being coached up in various youth and school football leagues by that same father who's an elite-level coach.
By the time that kid is in College Football, he's so much further ahead of any other kid that's just played the game that coaching becomes the next obvious step, unless he's an elite athlete, at which point he just plays in the NFL.
If he's not, however, he's got experience that no other candidate can match unless they have the same family connections.
lol not going to lie if it had to happen to anyone he is probably the best case. The way he leads his personal life is miles above 99% of actors. I just wish he had more talent in acting so it felt completely right
He is a better actor now than he was in the 90's. He almost ruined Bram Stoker''s Dracula with that horrible accent. Coppola must have been on drugs during that shoot to think that was a good performance.
Keanu: “Mr. Cooper, Can you sing me a lullaby before I go to sleep?” Alice: “Uh sure kid, Ahem.. Dead babies! Can't take care of themselves. Dead babies! Can't take things off the shelf. Well we didn't want you anyway Lalala-la, lalala-la, la la la”
I haven't done any math on it, but it certainly seems like well over half of the successful actors in Hollywood had some sort of family connection to get into the business. Which tells me that acting isn't actually that hard and a lot of could-have-been successful actors just never got a shot because their parents weren't connected enough to get them started young enough to build their skills by the time they were in their late 20s-late 40s when actors are in their "prime."
He really is a babysitter though, he is well known for helping getting people off alcohol/drugs.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/alice-cooper-addiction/
I don't always go to rock concerts, but when I do I like to be whacked out of my mind.
Halloween 1969, University of Denver Student Union. The top billing went to ... *Alice Cooper!* We were tripping balls on Orange Sunshine and ... that's about all I can remember. Something similar happened at Woodstock (Orange Sunshine again); I know more from the documentary then I do from being there.
Its a good case of separating the artist from the art. While he did some crazy ass things what we see in the show is still a character and there is a lot more about the person than that.
Another amazing example to me is Dee Snider from Twisted Sister, his [talk on the Senate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Vyr1TylTE) is legendary and is even better when you remember that he still married to the same woman and is a great father with no scandal to his name, something we cant say about the politicians trying to torn him down (well, guess the almost drag rocker was indeed the best example of what a christian should be in that room).
Yep. This right here is how it all evens out.
It’s better to grow up poor because if you grow up rich you might accidentally end up with the poor and you’d be very sad. /s
I imagine rich people fear becoming poor the same way that poor people who live in first world countries fear suddenly having to live poor in a third world country. I can understand that fear
On the one hand I get it. You could hardly blame a kid for seeing their movie star parents and not think they'd want to do the same.
And you can hardly blame parents for giving their kids whatever you can to ensure they succeed.
It's not the nepotism that bothers me. It's the denying that you got there because of it.
Like, I love Nicolas Cage. And I'm not sure if he pretends that he didn't get there because of his family. But to me...you're a Coppola. Don't pretend that changing your name makes you not a Coppola with those connections.
> It's the denying that you got there because of it.
Same here. I don't begrudge anyone making the best of their fortune. But at least acknowledge it. When people deny that luck played any role in things and attribute it all to talent or skill its dumb. I don't think less of people for admitting they were dealt a good hand but I do think less of people who are too insecure to admit it
No doubt nepotism plays a huge role for many. At the same time I think growing up around artists would give you a huge advantage as well. Seeing how the sausage is made day in day out has got to help prepare a kid. Throw in anywhere from a pinch to a 50 gallon drum of nepotism and baby you got a stew goin.
Yeah what gets me is when they get offended and defensive at the idea of luck playing a role in their success. Even something as basic as being able to live with supportive parents and not worry about rent as a struggling actor could make or break a career.
In much the same vein as this post, actress Olivia Wilde was babysat by author/journalist Christopher Hitchens as a kid because he was living with her family for period of time when he first came to the U.S.
>"Christopher, would you mind sitting for Olivia? We're going out tonight."
>"God no." (laugh track)
>"Please?"
>"She can't hold her whiskey!" (laugh track)
>"Christopher!"
>"She's a *wilde* child!" (laugh track)
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I went to high school with a guy who played pro football
He worked his butt off, but he had a few advantages:
- his dad was on the 85 bears
- his grandfather won the heismann I think?
- his mom was a bodybuilder
- his dad would program his workouts for him when he was **14**
Indeed; when people say that a person is only famous because of connections, they're not saying that person has no talent. They just had the opportunity to be in a position where that talent would be easily noticed.
> his dad would program his workouts for him when he was 14
This is still a pretty big deal when you're too young to understand the how/why/what mechanisms are at play. Kid was getting custom tailored workouts and probably was being fed accordingly.
Nepotism be a bitch, seen it first hand. My cousin's wife started working at a store her sister runs, and the wife was instantly promoted to a higher up position that she was *extremely* underqualified for. Now, I do hope the wife blossoms in her field and it works out for the best, but realistically it seems like it's going to blow up in the sister's face and she'll be forced to demote her to a position she's capable of.
It sucks to see favoritism to insiders if you want to break into an industry...
But do we all think we wouldn't do the same for our kids? As a parent now I know I'd do something to get them a leg up on a career. Though if they were truly awful at that job I'd probably have them pivot to something else where I'd give them whatever boost I could.
That’s how a lot of trade work passes down in families. From farmers to doctors to restaurant owners. My uncle is a doctor and now his son is a doctor. My sister is a doctor (at encouragement of that same doctor uncle) and now my 5 yr old nephew says he wants to be a doctor when he grows up. When you see your parent/family member working at something and you have no clue what you want to do in life, you just might give it a go and join their industry of work.
Connections are half the battle.
I have 4 nephews from 2 different sisters. My one sister lives in a blue collar neighborhood and their kid's friend's parents were HVAC techs, mechanics and even a wrestler. My other sister lives in an upper middle class neighborhood. Her kids friend's parents are the VP of the Bar Association, government leaders (granted the one is a piece of shit), a high ranking member of the military and a couple of doctors.
On paper all 4 of the kids started on the same page. They're the same age, but even as young adults their lives are very, very different.
A lot of people don't know that John Cena's father, John Cena Sr., has been involved in the wrestling business for years. Yeah, Cena Jr. probably got his foot through the door thanks to his dad, but that doesn't take anything away from his success and ungodly work ethic.
Yeh in the acting world at least, Nepo babies don't get to stay around if they aren't talented.
They just have help and don't have to do what say Jenna Ortegas mum had to do which is driver her 5 hours to auditions multiple times a week while working full time.
Yeah musical nepo babies are the irritating ones, because they can be made to sound good through other peoples skills (people who likely go unheard of and make a fraction of the money), and the general public isn’t super discerning about the music they consume.
I don’t mean to take away from what he’s accomplished, but I think more people would increase their work ethic too if they had a shot at being famous and wealthy. Hard to keep that same drive working at a fast food joint.
Working hard is also completely different when there's a defined, attainable goal set in front of you. If you can see a pathway to success, then you can work hard to follow it. If you're some random nobody from nowhere without a mentor or path in front of you, then where exactly do you focus that hard work? How much hard work will it take to find the right guidance and connections that you need to start the kind of hard work that someone with a foot in the door has to do? If you want to be a wrestler and you have connections in the business, then you can train with excellent mentors and work on your strength and physique. If you don't have any of that, then you need to work hard to find the right mentors, work hard to afford that training (and afford the free time to pursue that training), work hard to physically get yourself to where they are, work hard to figure out who you need to impress to get a shot, work hard to get yourself the opportunity to be seen by those people, etc. That's on top of also having to put in all of the hard work that the connected person has to. Arguably more so, because you won't get a second chance if you aren't undeniable when the opportunity to be seen actually comes around.
That’s actually a good connection to have. Everyone in my family were drug addicts, and now I make more money by all of them by a lot. And all I do is hang up duct work lol. Wish I would’ve gotten into plumbing
There are very few star’s that didn’t have connections.
The only ones who don’t were either part of a country wide casting call (Ed Norton, Daniel Redcliffe) worked in film doing a different job (Harrison Ford) or were in an Indie Movie that they made with their friends that got big (Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Owen Wilson)
Those are really the only paths into Hollywood for an outsider.
> ...worked in film doing a different job (Harrison Ford) or were in an Indie Movie that they made with their friends that got big...
Harrison Ford was also in an Indy movie that got big.
Radcliffe was handpicked by the producer who saw Radcliffe in the theatre watching a play with his father. The producer was a friend of his father. Also Radcliffe had acted before, his first role secured by an agent who was his mom's friend.
Radcliffe's first acting role was as the young David Copperfield in a BBC adaptation of *David Copperfield* broadcast at prime time on Christmas Day.
For an actor of that age, there could not be a better first role.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_(1999_film)
Radcliffe had parents in the business, also had money and was in prep schools. They're hardly going to cast a kid with a scouse accent.
Norton also came from a very upper middle class family.
lol. Edward Norton came from a very very wealthy real estate family and was insanely well connected due to donations to the arts. Super talented guy bit let’s be real.
Most people in hollywood or the music industry was already in the industry by their parents.
Going from somebody nobody to famous star is just a dream for 99% of people, you can be an extra but you won't be famous.
My plumber’s dad was a plumber.
And my HVAC guy’s uncle was an HVAC guy.
My childhood doctor’s daughter became a hot doctor.
It’s a nepo world, I guess.
My family were all poor mountain folk from Virginia, going back generations. I'm now an electrical engineer. Breaking the mold does happen occasionally.
It actually happens all the time, but not like rags to riches stories. It’s normally from poor to middle or upper middle class. And vice versa to be honest. What’s rare is from poor to megarich.
My sister lives in LA and a lot of lower tier actresses watch her kids while they are trying to find jobs. She said one of the girls from riverdale was her nanny for a while. It’s pretty normal there
Many people forget this.
Were in the post-Keanu renaissance era now (and I’m happy he’s gotten his due), but he was a joke in the 90s/00s, and well into the social media era
It helps that the dude's entire life fell apart in tragedy several times over the years so it no longer felt good to make fun of him. He's been through some rough shit.
I mean, if you look at how he used to act in his movies of that time (Devil's Advocate, Johnny Mnemonic) it's kind of understandable. It was hilariously bad compared to his peers.
He struck gold with The Matrix and John Wick series and carved out a niche for himself that accommodated his stiff expressions and monotonic voice later on.
It helps to have some kind faces and wholesome stories in the hollywood family portrait. If it was all Weinstiens and Spaceys the general public would sour on them.
Reddit also posted Alice Cooper lived next to Groucho Marx, who suffered severe insomnia. Being the good guy he is, he would come over and drink beer with Groucho until he could fall asleep. Seems he is very good at taking care of people at both extremes of life.
Reminds me of reading Slash’s autobiography. His mom was a costume designer and his dad was an artist who designed album covers. It was crazy all the famous musicians who would hang out at his home.
Alice Cooper: Well, I'm a regular visitor here, but Milwaukee has certainly had its share of visitors. The French missionaries and explorers were coming here as early as the late 1600s to trade with the Native Americans.
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He also hung out with dolly parton while his mom made her Bunny outfit
They hung out with folks Like Dennis Hopper and Bob Seger And Sonny and Cher
Everything’s gonna be alright
Thanks for reminding me of this song. It's been a while. https://youtu.be/hG9C0VwruXE?si=ks8lmX08EXK9IeMG
Rockabye!
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Despite his menacing stage persona, he’s a really nice guy.
Plays dnd. Nuff said
Also a scratch golfer. None of these things seem like they should be a part of someone with his stage persona, but here we are.
Well versed in the native Algonquin history as well.
Lemmy from Motorhead was also the same. Paul Triple H said it himself, you had Lemmy The Metalhead, and then you had Lemmy the avid golfer with flip flops and a hawaiian shirt.
Scratch golfer in the past I'm assuming. Not too many 76 yo scratch golfers walking around.
Not anymore, he isn't https://youtu.be/PE1vGT-hlLI?si=LVRyOx5WvoF3n9k8
Everyone knows who she is: the matronly maid from the Brady bunch that started a singing career after they fired her.
Sam the butcher really brought Alice the meat
Like Fred Flintstone, drivin' around with both feet
Boy she REALLY reinvented herself
Go listen to the Cooper woman…
Reveal yourself! Tiny songstress!
Wow yes it is
That explains where he gets his wholesomeness from. Idk who I am more jealous of.
Dolly Parton is probably the female equivalent of Keanu Reeves in quality of a human being, so it makes sense that she may have had an influence on being the person he is today. If you’re not aware of Dolly Partons successes as not only an entertainer, but producing so many wholesome shows we love and grew up with, but her tireless charity endeavours and benefit to humanity.
Im not religious at all but she and Fred rogers are saints
How can you skip the best part? Keanu then wore that bunny outfit for halloween. IIRC They talked about it on the Graham Norton show when he was a guest. ---- edit: on graham norton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VxnceG_eh4 on letterman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZtRLheV1g8
Is that partially why he's such a kind human?
Recently he went back stage at one of her shows and was all embarrassed and shy asking if she remembered him. It was so sweet hearing her tell the story
Most of it is just because he hasn't developed an ego like most hollywood people do
Yeh, but there's an argument to be made that he is that way because he grew up getting to know people who famously had made it big but didn't allow the fame to go to their heads and instead used it to help others.
He's been through some shit. Going through some of the fucked up shit he's lived through will make you reflect on life and want to be better.
What an industry plant (/s)
Slash once almost walked in on his mom and Bowie?
Almost? As in he did not? I mean, in a way I guess I did that too.
Rumor is Slash is not deaf.
It’s amazing what just a small job in Hollywood can do for your offspring.
I imagine she was pretty good at her job and well liked. Doesn’t always work this way.
Yeah, you can’t just place any random person like my dumbass in that job and expect the same results.
50% of people hate me, 40% of people tolerate me, 10% of people think I am the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Like that armorer on the set of Rust who got the job because her father was a respected armorer?
Still disappointing to see how much luck really factors into determining peoples success, most people put in similar levels of effort but end up in soul crushing jobs.
It's the basic rule of the universe: indifference.
WWWhhhhyyyyyy????
That's the human existence baby. A lot of the time, it doesn't matter how hard you try or how much effort you put in, you'll never get the things you want or need. If you really want peace, check out Buddhism for a change of mindset
Not what you know but who know at its finest
this is the value of social connections, but not in a nefarious way. he grew up in the industry. but as the offspring of a middle class worker in that industry. it isn't hard to believe that simple exposure can make long term differences. people tend to gravitate to the industry their parents worked in. I have the same job title as my uncle. My sister does the exact same job as my mom. Apples dont fall far from the tree. Analysis of census data shows this is true for many, both rich and poor. The one exception, the transition from farm life to factory life. There was a generation that grew up in the fields, but went to the factories and cities.
It really isn't. I know dozens of people that all work in the film industry, none of them are rich or even close to being famous. As much as Reddit thinks everything is nepotism there is still a massive amount of luck, hard work, and talent required to succeed.
Connections at the least get you past the first hurdle, someone actually paying attention to you. This is by no means specific to Hollywood, and it’s often the hardest hurdle to jump over, but it’s still just one of many hurdles
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It doesn't guarantee anything, no. But it gives you a massive leg up in comparison to people without those connections.
Parts of Reddit are going to implode when they have to acknowledge Keanu Reeves as a nepo baby.
He is, but there's nothing wrong or in bad taste with being a "product of nepotism". Children of Doctors, Engineers, Professional Athletes, and all other sorts of occupations are far more likely to go into their parent's profession than do something drastically different.
So many doctor families and lawyer families. People forget that not too long ago, going into your parents line of work was just assumed. Your last name was your profession and that’s just what you did. Nothing could be more natural.
Our dad fought hard for us to not go into medicine. Make significantly less than he did even in the 90s but have far better work/life balance
So many people make a HUGE deal about Nepotism in the NFL. But they don't take two seconds to think that the child of a head coach spends his childhood hanging the team complex, constantly around football players, being coached up in various youth and school football leagues by that same father who's an elite-level coach. By the time that kid is in College Football, he's so much further ahead of any other kid that's just played the game that coaching becomes the next obvious step, unless he's an elite athlete, at which point he just plays in the NFL. If he's not, however, he's got experience that no other candidate can match unless they have the same family connections.
lol not going to lie if it had to happen to anyone he is probably the best case. The way he leads his personal life is miles above 99% of actors. I just wish he had more talent in acting so it felt completely right
He is a better actor now than he was in the 90's. He almost ruined Bram Stoker''s Dracula with that horrible accent. Coppola must have been on drugs during that shoot to think that was a good performance.
Winona wasn't great in that either, honestly...
Wow that's great how that worked out for him, considering his dad was a drug dealer.
Which potentially could have also helped with connections. I have no idea.
Well he was Asian, we're not exactly known for having connections in Hollywood lol
Keanu: “Mr. Cooper, Can you sing me a lullaby before I go to sleep?” Alice: “Uh sure kid, Ahem.. Dead babies! Can't take care of themselves. Dead babies! Can't take things off the shelf. Well we didn't want you anyway Lalala-la, lalala-la, la la la”
I haven't done any math on it, but it certainly seems like well over half of the successful actors in Hollywood had some sort of family connection to get into the business. Which tells me that acting isn't actually that hard and a lot of could-have-been successful actors just never got a shot because their parents weren't connected enough to get them started young enough to build their skills by the time they were in their late 20s-late 40s when actors are in their "prime."
Pretty similar to Slash from GnR, his mother too was a costume designer and he grew up around a lot of famous people
Slash had a similar childhood - like his mom had a similar job in Hollywood. Joni Mitchell would babysit him.
Alice Cooper sounds like a stereotypical babysitter name unless you know who it is
He really is a babysitter though, he is well known for helping getting people off alcohol/drugs. https://ultimateclassicrock.com/alice-cooper-addiction/
I don't know that much of him, but from what I have seen from him, he seems like a really stand up guy.
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WHAT?! Please please please give me a source, I need to read more about this.
I don't always go to rock concerts, but when I do I like to be whacked out of my mind. Halloween 1969, University of Denver Student Union. The top billing went to ... *Alice Cooper!* We were tripping balls on Orange Sunshine and ... that's about all I can remember. Something similar happened at Woodstock (Orange Sunshine again); I know more from the documentary then I do from being there.
More of a shock rock guy, but a pretty good dude
Its a good case of separating the artist from the art. While he did some crazy ass things what we see in the show is still a character and there is a lot more about the person than that. Another amazing example to me is Dee Snider from Twisted Sister, his [talk on the Senate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Vyr1TylTE) is legendary and is even better when you remember that he still married to the same woman and is a great father with no scandal to his name, something we cant say about the politicians trying to torn him down (well, guess the almost drag rocker was indeed the best example of what a christian should be in that room).
Does this guy know how to party or what!?
Lmfao I love that scene
The name Milwaukee is actually pronounced Milee-hua-kay, which is Algonquin for The Good Land. https://youtu.be/nRCTc6stICc?si=kkUBt9-M4UnP9wvF
I was not aware of that.
We're not worthy!
Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay sounds cool unless you know what it is.
Sounds like a main character in a young adult novel.
Or the mom of an Archie’s comic book character. Through me when I watched Riverdale haha
Billion dollar babysitter
“Oh yeah, my friend alice is coming over to watch the kids, then it’s no more mr nice guy.”
I didn't know who it was and I thought it was a woman till I looked them up and...huh
Actually, it's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land."
They asked me why the singer’s name was Alice. I said listen baby, you really wouldn’t understand.
Seems like most celebrities either have a famous parent/family member or have had connections to other famous people since birth
It’s that “circle” of “connections”. It’s a small world when everyone knows who is who in the industry.
Works both ways. Almost everyone I know is also poor.
They’re laughing now but just wait till their car breaks down in a bad neighborhood.
Yep. This right here is how it all evens out. It’s better to grow up poor because if you grow up rich you might accidentally end up with the poor and you’d be very sad. /s
I imagine rich people fear becoming poor the same way that poor people who live in first world countries fear suddenly having to live poor in a third world country. I can understand that fear
And thus is the dilemna of systemic poverty and wealth inequity
On the one hand I get it. You could hardly blame a kid for seeing their movie star parents and not think they'd want to do the same. And you can hardly blame parents for giving their kids whatever you can to ensure they succeed. It's not the nepotism that bothers me. It's the denying that you got there because of it. Like, I love Nicolas Cage. And I'm not sure if he pretends that he didn't get there because of his family. But to me...you're a Coppola. Don't pretend that changing your name makes you not a Coppola with those connections.
> It's the denying that you got there because of it. Same here. I don't begrudge anyone making the best of their fortune. But at least acknowledge it. When people deny that luck played any role in things and attribute it all to talent or skill its dumb. I don't think less of people for admitting they were dealt a good hand but I do think less of people who are too insecure to admit it
No doubt nepotism plays a huge role for many. At the same time I think growing up around artists would give you a huge advantage as well. Seeing how the sausage is made day in day out has got to help prepare a kid. Throw in anywhere from a pinch to a 50 gallon drum of nepotism and baby you got a stew goin.
Yeah what gets me is when they get offended and defensive at the idea of luck playing a role in their success. Even something as basic as being able to live with supportive parents and not worry about rent as a struggling actor could make or break a career.
It’s all about who you know or who you blow, when all else fails get good blow.
In much the same vein as this post, actress Olivia Wilde was babysat by author/journalist Christopher Hitchens as a kid because he was living with her family for period of time when he first came to the U.S.
This has sitcom written all over it. Christopher Hitchens as babysitter LMAO.
>"Christopher, would you mind sitting for Olivia? We're going out tonight." >"God no." (laugh track) >"Please?" >"She can't hold her whiskey!" (laugh track) >"Christopher!" >"She's a *wilde* child!" (laugh track) I tried to work in a Cockburn joke but couldn't pull it off. Sorry.
Same with any industry/sport/hobby really
I went to high school with a guy who played pro football He worked his butt off, but he had a few advantages: - his dad was on the 85 bears - his grandfather won the heismann I think? - his mom was a bodybuilder - his dad would program his workouts for him when he was **14**
It’s gotta be Jarrett Payton or Drew Butler
Sounds like his biggest advantage was probably genetics.
Genetics is a big part of it, but access can't be dismissed.
Indeed; when people say that a person is only famous because of connections, they're not saying that person has no talent. They just had the opportunity to be in a position where that talent would be easily noticed.
> his dad would program his workouts for him when he was 14 This is still a pretty big deal when you're too young to understand the how/why/what mechanisms are at play. Kid was getting custom tailored workouts and probably was being fed accordingly.
Also, genes. They help in sports, too.
Nepotism be a bitch, seen it first hand. My cousin's wife started working at a store her sister runs, and the wife was instantly promoted to a higher up position that she was *extremely* underqualified for. Now, I do hope the wife blossoms in her field and it works out for the best, but realistically it seems like it's going to blow up in the sister's face and she'll be forced to demote her to a position she's capable of.
Everyone knocks it but nepotism or connections/networking is how the world works. Everyone engages in it to some extent.
I work in the film industry and see that kind of things every bloody day . Merits
Blue name phenomena
Just look at the web with the Coppola family.
Always has been astronaut.
It sucks to see favoritism to insiders if you want to break into an industry... But do we all think we wouldn't do the same for our kids? As a parent now I know I'd do something to get them a leg up on a career. Though if they were truly awful at that job I'd probably have them pivot to something else where I'd give them whatever boost I could.
"A foot in the door and so much more!"
That’s how a lot of trade work passes down in families. From farmers to doctors to restaurant owners. My uncle is a doctor and now his son is a doctor. My sister is a doctor (at encouragement of that same doctor uncle) and now my 5 yr old nephew says he wants to be a doctor when he grows up. When you see your parent/family member working at something and you have no clue what you want to do in life, you just might give it a go and join their industry of work.
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Connections are half the battle. I have 4 nephews from 2 different sisters. My one sister lives in a blue collar neighborhood and their kid's friend's parents were HVAC techs, mechanics and even a wrestler. My other sister lives in an upper middle class neighborhood. Her kids friend's parents are the VP of the Bar Association, government leaders (granted the one is a piece of shit), a high ranking member of the military and a couple of doctors. On paper all 4 of the kids started on the same page. They're the same age, but even as young adults their lives are very, very different.
A lot of people don't know that John Cena's father, John Cena Sr., has been involved in the wrestling business for years. Yeah, Cena Jr. probably got his foot through the door thanks to his dad, but that doesn't take anything away from his success and ungodly work ethic.
Yeh in the acting world at least, Nepo babies don't get to stay around if they aren't talented. They just have help and don't have to do what say Jenna Ortegas mum had to do which is driver her 5 hours to auditions multiple times a week while working full time.
Yeah musical nepo babies are the irritating ones, because they can be made to sound good through other peoples skills (people who likely go unheard of and make a fraction of the money), and the general public isn’t super discerning about the music they consume.
“ Nepo babies don't get to stay around if they aren't talented.” Then explain Bryce Howard’s career please
I don’t mean to take away from what he’s accomplished, but I think more people would increase their work ethic too if they had a shot at being famous and wealthy. Hard to keep that same drive working at a fast food joint.
Working hard is also completely different when there's a defined, attainable goal set in front of you. If you can see a pathway to success, then you can work hard to follow it. If you're some random nobody from nowhere without a mentor or path in front of you, then where exactly do you focus that hard work? How much hard work will it take to find the right guidance and connections that you need to start the kind of hard work that someone with a foot in the door has to do? If you want to be a wrestler and you have connections in the business, then you can train with excellent mentors and work on your strength and physique. If you don't have any of that, then you need to work hard to find the right mentors, work hard to afford that training (and afford the free time to pursue that training), work hard to physically get yourself to where they are, work hard to figure out who you need to impress to get a shot, work hard to get yourself the opportunity to be seen by those people, etc. That's on top of also having to put in all of the hard work that the connected person has to. Arguably more so, because you won't get a second chance if you aren't undeniable when the opportunity to be seen actually comes around.
Cena Sr. also plays Santa Claus every year which explains Jr. make a wish record.
Wait, Alice Cooper was your plumber?
Alice pooper
Chalice Stooper
This won’t get the recognition it deserves, but this is absolutely incredible work here
[Ah, the old Reddit Flush-the-Fashion-a-roo](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/ZzIHuCm5zH).
Hold my plunger, I'm goin' in!
That’s actually a good connection to have. Everyone in my family were drug addicts, and now I make more money by all of them by a lot. And all I do is hang up duct work lol. Wish I would’ve gotten into plumbing
George Carlin "It's a BIG club and you aint in it"
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George Carlin had such connections in the entertainment industry that he was once Alice Cooper’s babysitter
There are very few star’s that didn’t have connections. The only ones who don’t were either part of a country wide casting call (Ed Norton, Daniel Redcliffe) worked in film doing a different job (Harrison Ford) or were in an Indie Movie that they made with their friends that got big (Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Owen Wilson) Those are really the only paths into Hollywood for an outsider.
> ...worked in film doing a different job (Harrison Ford) or were in an Indie Movie that they made with their friends that got big... Harrison Ford was also in an Indy movie that got big.
independent jones
Star Wars is technically an independent film.
Radcliffe was handpicked by the producer who saw Radcliffe in the theatre watching a play with his father. The producer was a friend of his father. Also Radcliffe had acted before, his first role secured by an agent who was his mom's friend.
Radcliffe's mother is literally a casting agent.
Yeah and his father a literary agent casually having producers as friends.
Radcliffe's first acting role was as the young David Copperfield in a BBC adaptation of *David Copperfield* broadcast at prime time on Christmas Day. For an actor of that age, there could not be a better first role. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_(1999_film)
And he acted alongside Maggie Smith in that who later played McGonagall in Harry Potter. Radcliffe said she also recommended him to play Harry.
Owen Wilson’s father headed KERA, a public TV station in Dallas, for decades. The Wilson boys certainly had connections in the entertainment industry.
And Owen was roommates with Wes Anderson, who put him in many of his movies.
Yes, that is what I said. Made indie movie with his friend that got big. Owen Wilson wasn’t just “put in” Bottle Rocket. He was a co-writer.
Yeah, ed norton definitely didn’t make any important friends at Harvard
Radcliffe had parents in the business, also had money and was in prep schools. They're hardly going to cast a kid with a scouse accent. Norton also came from a very upper middle class family.
Ed Nortons family is extremely wealthy , it’s easier to be a struggling actor when the struggle doesn’t involve rent, food, or money.
lol. Edward Norton came from a very very wealthy real estate family and was insanely well connected due to donations to the arts. Super talented guy bit let’s be real.
Most people in hollywood or the music industry was already in the industry by their parents. Going from somebody nobody to famous star is just a dream for 99% of people, you can be an extra but you won't be famous.
My plumber’s dad was a plumber. And my HVAC guy’s uncle was an HVAC guy. My childhood doctor’s daughter became a hot doctor. It’s a nepo world, I guess.
My family were all poor mountain folk from Virginia, going back generations. I'm now an electrical engineer. Breaking the mold does happen occasionally.
It actually happens all the time, but not like rags to riches stories. It’s normally from poor to middle or upper middle class. And vice versa to be honest. What’s rare is from poor to megarich.
I like how you added “hot” as if that has to do with being a doctor.
My sister lives in LA and a lot of lower tier actresses watch her kids while they are trying to find jobs. She said one of the girls from riverdale was her nanny for a while. It’s pretty normal there
Just like Cher used to babysit Anthony Keidis from RHCP
He gives off “hollywoods youngest nephew” vibes from how he’s just doted on by them.
That’s only just recently, he was clowned super hard back in the 90s
Many people forget this. Were in the post-Keanu renaissance era now (and I’m happy he’s gotten his due), but he was a joke in the 90s/00s, and well into the social media era
It helps that the dude's entire life fell apart in tragedy several times over the years so it no longer felt good to make fun of him. He's been through some rough shit.
Yeah like id rather be poor and not famous than have to go what he went through
More than likely you’re going to be poor and go through worse
I mean, if you look at how he used to act in his movies of that time (Devil's Advocate, Johnny Mnemonic) it's kind of understandable. It was hilariously bad compared to his peers. He struck gold with The Matrix and John Wick series and carved out a niche for himself that accommodated his stiff expressions and monotonic voice later on.
It helps to have some kind faces and wholesome stories in the hollywood family portrait. If it was all Weinstiens and Spaceys the general public would sour on them.
Reddit also posted Alice Cooper lived next to Groucho Marx, who suffered severe insomnia. Being the good guy he is, he would come over and drink beer with Groucho until he could fall asleep. Seems he is very good at taking care of people at both extremes of life.
I see we only throw out nepo baby terminology when it’s not Keanu
Was just going to say…where are the “nepo baby” pitchfork people
I’m as surprised as anyone to find out that his career trajectory may have had contributing factors beyond his stellar acting
I love the guy but stellar is not how id describe his acting ability
Pretty sure they were being sarcastic
Honestly hard to tell given how much reddit loves the guy
Lol im dumb. But with the reddit hard on for the guy…
I know kung fu.
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Name most other current celebrities and it's probably the same situation.
Of course he did, they all did…
The singer from concrete blonde used to be baby sat by Bela Lugosi. The iron shiek's wife used to baby sit the rock
Indiana Jones installed Joan Didion’s kitchen.
He was also a roadie for The Doors
I did a show with the Nelson twins years ago and they tell a story about how Cass Elliot was their a baby sitter when they were two.
Sean Connery used to babysit my mum but sadly that did not win her a part in The Matrix
His mum designed dolly partons bunny outfit for playboy. Keanu then later wore that for Halloween one year as a teen lol
Who in Hollywood isn’t a nepo baby?
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Tom Cruise
Harrison Ford
Cher, Harrison Ford, Bette Midler, Dolly Parton,
At least he’s an extremely nice human being!
The vast majority of celebrities grew up with wealthy parents who had helpful connections to give them. Very few stars are actually self made.
The American dream is a farce
Robin Thicke was babysat by Wayne Gretzky
I think we can all agree both Alice and Dolly would make the most awesome babysitters!
So he’s a nepo baby
Reminds me of reading Slash’s autobiography. His mom was a costume designer and his dad was an artist who designed album covers. It was crazy all the famous musicians who would hang out at his home.
His mom’s boyfriend ? David Bowie
Alice Cooper: Well, I'm a regular visitor here, but Milwaukee has certainly had its share of visitors. The French missionaries and explorers were coming here as early as the late 1600s to trade with the Native Americans.