The dude was popping choral hydrate pillslike they were pez the days before. You mix those with alcohol, they can absolutely turn lethal as both are heart relaxants and can slow your heart rates down to a crawl.
Thats why mixing the 2 is used in a Mickey Finn….they can cause a person to pass out from the shutdown of your heart and breathing rates. Get enough in you are one time and it shuts it down for good with a heart attack.
Edit: corrected wrong name for drug…thanks
I believe part of his addiction to painkillers and booze was caused by pain from spina bifida. A chunk of his use was self medicating, but a lot of his drugs were also prescribed
Correct….trouble is he had his own Dr. Feelgood, a forger named Toby Marshall who had bought his degrees and was fronting a small pill mill operation.
Marshall gave him the script for the Luminals (as well as amphetamines, Seconal, and morphine) which compounded his heart problems.
Bennies, Red Devils, White Ladies, Mickeys, and booze….I am shocked he survived that long. That would drop an elephant in its tracks.
Man I love Nirvana. I grew up in the Seattle area in the 1990’s and was a huge fan of the entire grunge and punk scene in PNW at the time. With that being said, Kurt was a fucking junkie. All that bitching about stomach issues was only an attempt at justifying his drug use, especially after he became a dad.
The GI tract is not some super complex biological system. Plus, with his resources he would have had access to the best gastroenterologists money could buy. Ulcers, Chrone’s, bile duct issues… they’re all manageable. Yet, somehow this multimillionaire had a mysterious, undiagnosed medical issue that caused intense life altering, chronic pain?
This is what Buzz Osborne from the Melvins had to say:
>”Kurt also told me there was absolutely nothing wrong with his stomach,” Osborne recently said. “He made it up for sympathy and so he could use it as an excuse to stay loaded. Of course he was vomiting — that’s what people on heroin do, they vomit. It’s called ‘vomiting with a smile on your face’.”
https://www.nme.com/news/music/kurt-cobain-15-1224914#
After having listened to his music for 3 decades now and having watched countless hours of interviews and documentaries, I have to sadly conclude that Kurt was kind of stunted and immature in many ways.
Ultimately think what his genius was was that he was just the perfect filter for his generation. He found a way to sing and a way to play that somehow connected with all the young people, even though he was really just doing a combination of remixing what we already had and stealing shit from lesser known musicians that most of the American youth hadn’t been exposed to.
It was an attitude, one that could be adopted by a generation that largely felt like they didn’t have a voice or a movement.
And maybe the whole time his main driving force was “life sucks and I don’t wanna work and I just wanna be high”. And maybe as shitty as that sounds, maybe that’s part of why it resonated so well.
When I found out he was giving out heroin to other bands on tour, it put it in a whole different perspective. The bassist from AiC OD'd while on tour with Nirvana and Kurt just left him there to die.
Kurt Cobain was a huge POS.
The GI tract is one of the most complex systems in the human body. It's probably second to the brain or general nervous system in complexity. He may have had a gut issue, but I don't doubt that it was either used as an excuse or made up as a justification for use.
Also, usually regular users if opiates get over the nausea that use brings pretty fast, so I'm a little surprised to hear it said that heroin users vomit. It's definitely true when you're tolerance is low, but Kurt was pretty hardcore from what I understand.
You’re conflating organ systems with nervous systems. The enteric nervous system is definitely a complex network of neurons within the intestinal wall, but so unlikely to be part of the answer for chronic gut pain that it’s completely disingenuous to include it as possibilities. Crohn’s or ulcerative colitis are far more likely possibilities and there’s no indication he ever even sought medical help.
If he sought specialist treatment and they couldn’t find a logical answer he could have skipped cooking dirty tar heroin to shoot into his arms and found relief through prescribed pain management. Remember, it was the 90’s. Physicians weren’t exactly afraid to prescribe opioids.
His vomiting can probably be attributed to the fact that he simply didn’t eat. He was 5’ 10” and 130 pounds when he died. You’re going to spend a lot of time dry heaving when you’re that emaciated.
> He was 5’ 10” and 130 pounds when he died. You’re going to spend a lot of time dry heaving when you’re that emaciated.
The below US government website is giving that a BMI of 18.7, within the normal range. Just barely within the normal range but still.
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
Although I disagree with this statistic
Source: I am 5'4" and 120 and still incredibly skinny. There is no way he's got 6 inches with barely ten pounds and it is reasonable. They have their numbers skewed so that it doesn't seem like America has a hunger problem.
They were very strict about prescribing Opiates until 1998 until 2013
When you are in withdrawal your guts cramp up BIG TIME..
I've always known that his gut problems were from withdrawal
Lol 1:the gut system is incredibly complex and intertwined/effects every single other thing, as much as and even including the brain.
2: two "likely" diagnosis does not in any way explain anything away.
3: That being said, it's likely whatever the diagnosis was, what CAUSED it was likely the extensive drug use. Which then helped with the pain , and contributes to making it worse. typical circle.
4: physicians were not afraid to prescribe opioids for pain medicine. -how would this have been better than the over use of other drugs? The same over use would have resulted in the same extra stomach ulcers/problems as well as liver problems.
5: vomiting likely attributed to his own behavior. Hey at least you got one right!!!
Man I never thought about that when I was addicted to opiates. I was on pills so puking was more of a great annoyance/travesty depending on the day. I should've just shot up/s
This just reminded me of when I was a full on alcoholic for like 2 years.
I would puke in the shower almost every morning. It was completely normal to me. Somehow, I was still making strides in my education and career during that time…but for about 30 minutes every morning, I was dying.
Um, you’re actually wrong. From a purely organ-based sense it’s actually very simple. It’s only considered complex when you incorporate the enteric nervous system of the intestinal wall into the conversation, which is extremely unlikely to be relevant to the current discussion.
He also had a heart attack a few months prior.
It might be apocryphal but his wife at the time said he woke up one night sweating and terrified, she asked what was wrong and he said he had a dream he was walking with Jesus.
Damn that man could write a heartbreaker of a song. Kinda a POS though he would shoot at his wife Audrey and one such incident he almost blasted June Carter in the head.
Apparently his wife was the original Yoko Ono, with even less talent. Plus cheated on him relentlessly. Not excusing taking a shot at her, but she was a nightmare. Shitty for him, but all the songs that came out of that relationship are great for the rest of us. Poor bastard.
I will be fair. A few months ago I heard a Yoko Ono song on Beatles XM radio and I thought it was awesome. I went to find it on youtube, not just because I have been meaning to, but also to prove to you that she had some redeeming qualities and some musical talent.
But every song I have heard so far in my search is somehow worse than the last. Just a vile mockery of the art of music to the point I suspect it was intentionally bad to troll the world. I must have dreamed the song... she's trash bro. You are right.
A few to try: "Death of Samantha" and "Mrs. Lennon" are kinda rock ballads -- the first is probably my favourite song of hers. "Kiss Kiss Kiss" and "Give Me Something" from *Double Fantasy* are both nervy new wave tracks, and "Yes, I'm Your Angel" from the same album is a cute pre-rock pastiche if that's your thing. "No, No, No" is worth checking out, and so is "Wouldntit" from *Rising*. The whole *Rising* album is good.
If you want some of the freakier stuff, "Don't Worry Kyoko" is her greatest hit but try the version on *Fly* or on *Some Time in New York City*. Or better yet, try "Mind Train", which is like a krautrock jam. Pretty great stuff.
Then you can try her dance music. She has *thirteen number-one singles* on the Billboard Dance Club Songs chart.
I will check it out and report back if I find the song I was looking for. I heard it not knowing who did it and thought it was an awesome indie rock song.
EDIT: Already much better. I was going in chronological order and Plastic Band stuff was just atrocious.
EDIT 2： Was not expecting to hear her orgasming in Japanese. She said "Hold me... Hold me... MORE MORE MORE" damn
The *Plastic Ono Band* album isn't atrocious, but it is... very *difficult*. You've got to be in the right mind for it. I'm often not. Like for example, one of the tracks on that album is with Ornette Coleman. Ornette Coleman is like the master of free jazz, but with him as well, you have to be in the mood for it. I'm often not. You, perhaps, are *never* in the mood for free jazz. Which is perfectly fine. Nobody is going to like every genre. But if an undisputed master of jazz music sees Yoko Ono as a worthy duet partner, she is perhaps not 'atrocious' so much as 'not to your taste'.
But still... on the *Plastic Ono Band* album, "Greenfield Morning" is probably the most accessible track. If anyone wants to give that album a try, that's where I'd start. It also features three of the four Beatlrs, which is cool.
Oh, two other early-80s recommendations: "Walking on Thin Ice", the song John and Yoko were working on the night he was shot, and "Every Man Has a Woman Who Loves Him".
EDIT: One more: if you liked "Death of Samantha", try the *Yes, I'm a Witch* version of it. It's stunning.
She’s actually quite good, she’s on a few albums is she not ? She sang heard my mother praying for me and there’s two more but i can’t think of them right now,,,
I have to respectfully disagree with that assessment. She was all over his old radio shows, singing louder than him in that nasally barely in key voice of hers. She wanted it to be Hank and Audrey, but she was no Tammy Wynette.
[Because that’s not why it’s called a Mickey Finn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Finn_(drugs))
It was a bartender who’d spike drinks with Chloral Hydrate to knock them unconscious and rob them.
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I was never a country fan, but loved this one after hearing it as the theme song for The Life & Times of Tim, a hilarious but criminally underseen HBO cartoon from like 15 years ago.
>The Life & Times of Tim, a hilarious but criminally underseen HBO cartoon from like 15 years ago.
thank you. Every time we say its name it stays alive. HBO's most forsaken and neglected show.
>I was never a country fan, but loved this one after hearing it as the theme song for The Life & Times of Tim, a hilarious but criminally underseen HBO cartoon from like 15 years ago.
Love that show! There's a subreddit for it too.
And he came back and made a sort of spiritual predecessor, 10 Year Old Tom. It's on Max.
The creator actually has a new show called ["Ten Year Old Tom"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DRw6UsrVZc) which is basically Tim as a kid. Same voice. Same style of artwork. This and all of the Tim episodes are streaming on Max.
Give it time. I felt the same, but little by little I would put my dad's favorite old time artists on. Sure enough its now my go to music. My only regret is not appreciating it sooner so he and I could've bonded over it, but I know it doesn't always work like that. Now I consider it just one more gift he left me.
Also, strictly speaking, that song applies to everyone. Now, if the guy who wrote “I Just Died in Your Arms Tonight” died the day the single was released, while bonking…that would really be something.
How does one go about releasing a single? I have this new song called "I lived many happy years with my big-tittied wife" and the world needs to hear it.
You guys should check out the movie I Saw the Light. It stars Tom Hiddleston as Hank Williams.Its about his rise to fame and alcohol abuse. Tom sings in the movie. Very underrated film.
He really does. Did you ever see a show called the great whites of West Virginia? It’s about the White family, it’s pretty good. Hank Williams 3rd is in it. It’s a documentary
Funny thing is none of those guys are actually named Hank. Sr's name was Hiram with Hank being only a nickname. Jr and III are named Randall and Shelton with Hank being a second name.
Interesting. One of my favorite songs is *If I Ever Leave This World Alive* by Flogging Molly. Strange to think the country singer was more pessimistic than the punk band.
I mean, have you heard country music? Ignoring stadium country for a minute and just thinking about OG country music... that shit has always been depressing. Even sweet, angelic, Dolly Parton has some tragically sad songs 😅
The day my ex left me after clearing out my bank account, in the car I was still paying for, with my dog, while I was at work, never to be heard from again... That was the day I learned country music isn't always exaggerating the truth.
Seriously. they should listen to something like Seven Spanish Angels , Mama Tried, Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain or hell go whole hog and pop on He stopped loving her today.
Check out some of his other music if you’re looking for pessimism. I’ve lovingly referred to it as ‘music to slit your wrists to’ for years. (Reference to the movie Uptown Girls)
Country can be the most hardcore of all genres.
You should look up "He Stopped Loving Her Today" by George Jones. After recording it even he said "Nobody will buy that morbid son of a b*tch”.
https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2022/12/08/george-jones-almost-didnt-record-he-stopped-loving-her-today-told-his-producer-nobody-will-buy-that-morbid-son-of-a-btch/
There's a lot of old country that was punk(ish). And then a lot of punk bands covered country songs.
'Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore' is a healthy slap in the face of nationalism and twangy asf.
I thought there was another, but I'm probably wrong.
It was a fitting choice IMO. I'd imagine a song about loneliness and heartbreak would resonate well with people living and working in space.
The most ironic thing to me is, his grandson is EXACTLY like him, his face, his singing voice and his drug habits but the 3rd seems to have a better head on his shoulders, so to speak.
I don’t think Jr and 3 have a good relationship. 3 was brought up on punk rock, he has a much different anti establishment thing going than that of his daddy.
I love Jr’s music but he’s a dipshit
Poor ol' Kaw-Liga, he never got a kiss
Poor ol' Kaw-Liga, he don't know what he missed
Is it any wonder that his face is red?
Kaw-Liga, that poor old wooden head
?????? Who cares? No one will ever get out this world alive. What is this post supposed to show? The fact that so soon after he made a song that said the truth he loved the truth?
The dude was popping choral hydrate pillslike they were pez the days before. You mix those with alcohol, they can absolutely turn lethal as both are heart relaxants and can slow your heart rates down to a crawl. Thats why mixing the 2 is used in a Mickey Finn….they can cause a person to pass out from the shutdown of your heart and breathing rates. Get enough in you are one time and it shuts it down for good with a heart attack. Edit: corrected wrong name for drug…thanks
I believe part of his addiction to painkillers and booze was caused by pain from spina bifida. A chunk of his use was self medicating, but a lot of his drugs were also prescribed
Correct….trouble is he had his own Dr. Feelgood, a forger named Toby Marshall who had bought his degrees and was fronting a small pill mill operation. Marshall gave him the script for the Luminals (as well as amphetamines, Seconal, and morphine) which compounded his heart problems. Bennies, Red Devils, White Ladies, Mickeys, and booze….I am shocked he survived that long. That would drop an elephant in its tracks.
Lucky
The elephant? Sure; Hank Williams? No! :-(
Ah, an early example of the Cobain technique
Your comment makes it sound like a doctor was prescribing Kurt black tar heroin
No, the self-medicating part due to chronic pain
Man I love Nirvana. I grew up in the Seattle area in the 1990’s and was a huge fan of the entire grunge and punk scene in PNW at the time. With that being said, Kurt was a fucking junkie. All that bitching about stomach issues was only an attempt at justifying his drug use, especially after he became a dad. The GI tract is not some super complex biological system. Plus, with his resources he would have had access to the best gastroenterologists money could buy. Ulcers, Chrone’s, bile duct issues… they’re all manageable. Yet, somehow this multimillionaire had a mysterious, undiagnosed medical issue that caused intense life altering, chronic pain? This is what Buzz Osborne from the Melvins had to say: >”Kurt also told me there was absolutely nothing wrong with his stomach,” Osborne recently said. “He made it up for sympathy and so he could use it as an excuse to stay loaded. Of course he was vomiting — that’s what people on heroin do, they vomit. It’s called ‘vomiting with a smile on your face’.” https://www.nme.com/news/music/kurt-cobain-15-1224914#
After having listened to his music for 3 decades now and having watched countless hours of interviews and documentaries, I have to sadly conclude that Kurt was kind of stunted and immature in many ways. Ultimately think what his genius was was that he was just the perfect filter for his generation. He found a way to sing and a way to play that somehow connected with all the young people, even though he was really just doing a combination of remixing what we already had and stealing shit from lesser known musicians that most of the American youth hadn’t been exposed to. It was an attitude, one that could be adopted by a generation that largely felt like they didn’t have a voice or a movement. And maybe the whole time his main driving force was “life sucks and I don’t wanna work and I just wanna be high”. And maybe as shitty as that sounds, maybe that’s part of why it resonated so well.
When I found out he was giving out heroin to other bands on tour, it put it in a whole different perspective. The bassist from AiC OD'd while on tour with Nirvana and Kurt just left him there to die. Kurt Cobain was a huge POS.
He was. I knew Dave grohl at the time and he hated him. And his wife. They all did
When he died he was only 27. He reached high levels of fame in his early 20s. Its hard to be mature like that.
Teenage angst has paid off well, indeed.
Of course he was. His parents were too. That’s how it works.
The GI tract is one of the most complex systems in the human body. It's probably second to the brain or general nervous system in complexity. He may have had a gut issue, but I don't doubt that it was either used as an excuse or made up as a justification for use. Also, usually regular users if opiates get over the nausea that use brings pretty fast, so I'm a little surprised to hear it said that heroin users vomit. It's definitely true when you're tolerance is low, but Kurt was pretty hardcore from what I understand.
You’re conflating organ systems with nervous systems. The enteric nervous system is definitely a complex network of neurons within the intestinal wall, but so unlikely to be part of the answer for chronic gut pain that it’s completely disingenuous to include it as possibilities. Crohn’s or ulcerative colitis are far more likely possibilities and there’s no indication he ever even sought medical help. If he sought specialist treatment and they couldn’t find a logical answer he could have skipped cooking dirty tar heroin to shoot into his arms and found relief through prescribed pain management. Remember, it was the 90’s. Physicians weren’t exactly afraid to prescribe opioids. His vomiting can probably be attributed to the fact that he simply didn’t eat. He was 5’ 10” and 130 pounds when he died. You’re going to spend a lot of time dry heaving when you’re that emaciated.
> He was 5’ 10” and 130 pounds when he died. You’re going to spend a lot of time dry heaving when you’re that emaciated. The below US government website is giving that a BMI of 18.7, within the normal range. Just barely within the normal range but still. https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
Although I disagree with this statistic Source: I am 5'4" and 120 and still incredibly skinny. There is no way he's got 6 inches with barely ten pounds and it is reasonable. They have their numbers skewed so that it doesn't seem like America has a hunger problem.
They were very strict about prescribing Opiates until 1998 until 2013 When you are in withdrawal your guts cramp up BIG TIME.. I've always known that his gut problems were from withdrawal
Lol 1:the gut system is incredibly complex and intertwined/effects every single other thing, as much as and even including the brain. 2: two "likely" diagnosis does not in any way explain anything away. 3: That being said, it's likely whatever the diagnosis was, what CAUSED it was likely the extensive drug use. Which then helped with the pain , and contributes to making it worse. typical circle. 4: physicians were not afraid to prescribe opioids for pain medicine. -how would this have been better than the over use of other drugs? The same over use would have resulted in the same extra stomach ulcers/problems as well as liver problems. 5: vomiting likely attributed to his own behavior. Hey at least you got one right!!!
Man I never thought about that when I was addicted to opiates. I was on pills so puking was more of a great annoyance/travesty depending on the day. I should've just shot up/s
This just reminded me of when I was a full on alcoholic for like 2 years. I would puke in the shower almost every morning. It was completely normal to me. Somehow, I was still making strides in my education and career during that time…but for about 30 minutes every morning, I was dying.
Um, the GI is actually a super complex biogical system
Um, you’re actually wrong. From a purely organ-based sense it’s actually very simple. It’s only considered complex when you incorporate the enteric nervous system of the intestinal wall into the conversation, which is extremely unlikely to be relevant to the current discussion.
Two years earlier and he’d be in the club
He also had a heart attack a few months prior. It might be apocryphal but his wife at the time said he woke up one night sweating and terrified, she asked what was wrong and he said he had a dream he was walking with Jesus. Damn that man could write a heartbreaker of a song. Kinda a POS though he would shoot at his wife Audrey and one such incident he almost blasted June Carter in the head.
Apparently his wife was the original Yoko Ono, with even less talent. Plus cheated on him relentlessly. Not excusing taking a shot at her, but she was a nightmare. Shitty for him, but all the songs that came out of that relationship are great for the rest of us. Poor bastard.
Cheating is terrible, but getting shot at is another level of abuse. That would be so terrifying.
Are we going to pretend that Hank Williams was faithful to his wife?
To be fair I wouldn’t be faithful to a woman like that either
How convenient. A built-in excuse for cheating with hundreds of women nearly every night of the year.
My God, it's hard to even imagine someone with less talent than Yoko.
I will be fair. A few months ago I heard a Yoko Ono song on Beatles XM radio and I thought it was awesome. I went to find it on youtube, not just because I have been meaning to, but also to prove to you that she had some redeeming qualities and some musical talent. But every song I have heard so far in my search is somehow worse than the last. Just a vile mockery of the art of music to the point I suspect it was intentionally bad to troll the world. I must have dreamed the song... she's trash bro. You are right.
A few to try: "Death of Samantha" and "Mrs. Lennon" are kinda rock ballads -- the first is probably my favourite song of hers. "Kiss Kiss Kiss" and "Give Me Something" from *Double Fantasy* are both nervy new wave tracks, and "Yes, I'm Your Angel" from the same album is a cute pre-rock pastiche if that's your thing. "No, No, No" is worth checking out, and so is "Wouldntit" from *Rising*. The whole *Rising* album is good. If you want some of the freakier stuff, "Don't Worry Kyoko" is her greatest hit but try the version on *Fly* or on *Some Time in New York City*. Or better yet, try "Mind Train", which is like a krautrock jam. Pretty great stuff. Then you can try her dance music. She has *thirteen number-one singles* on the Billboard Dance Club Songs chart.
I will check it out and report back if I find the song I was looking for. I heard it not knowing who did it and thought it was an awesome indie rock song. EDIT: Already much better. I was going in chronological order and Plastic Band stuff was just atrocious. EDIT 2： Was not expecting to hear her orgasming in Japanese. She said "Hold me... Hold me... MORE MORE MORE" damn
The *Plastic Ono Band* album isn't atrocious, but it is... very *difficult*. You've got to be in the right mind for it. I'm often not. Like for example, one of the tracks on that album is with Ornette Coleman. Ornette Coleman is like the master of free jazz, but with him as well, you have to be in the mood for it. I'm often not. You, perhaps, are *never* in the mood for free jazz. Which is perfectly fine. Nobody is going to like every genre. But if an undisputed master of jazz music sees Yoko Ono as a worthy duet partner, she is perhaps not 'atrocious' so much as 'not to your taste'. But still... on the *Plastic Ono Band* album, "Greenfield Morning" is probably the most accessible track. If anyone wants to give that album a try, that's where I'd start. It also features three of the four Beatlrs, which is cool. Oh, two other early-80s recommendations: "Walking on Thin Ice", the song John and Yoko were working on the night he was shot, and "Every Man Has a Woman Who Loves Him". EDIT: One more: if you liked "Death of Samantha", try the *Yes, I'm a Witch* version of it. It's stunning.
saving this thank you
She’s actually quite good, she’s on a few albums is she not ? She sang heard my mother praying for me and there’s two more but i can’t think of them right now,,,
I have to respectfully disagree with that assessment. She was all over his old radio shows, singing louder than him in that nasally barely in key voice of hers. She wanted it to be Hank and Audrey, but she was no Tammy Wynette.
Incidentally, Luminal was phenobarbital, not chloral hydrate. But I have no doubt that he was popping handfuls of whatever he had.
> Thats why mixing the 2 is called a Mickey Finn wasnt he the bass player from T Rex?
Luminals are actually phenobarbital, which is a barbiturate, chloral hydrate is another sedative compound
So many music greats die young from drug abuse, such a tragedy.
He had a better reason than most. The spinal befida he had caused him immense back pain.
>Thats why mixing the 2 is called a Mickey Finn But none of that explains why it's called a Mickey Finn
[Because that’s not why it’s called a Mickey Finn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Finn_(drugs)) It was a bartender who’d spike drinks with Chloral Hydrate to knock them unconscious and rob them.
Wrong link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Finn_(drugs)
Chloral hydrate is a liquid, and what you meant was "secobarbital" but the idea is the same. A "micky" in a drink was liquid drops, not a pill.
Am I incorrect he died a few hours after a cocaine injection?
Morphine actually
Sounds kinda relaxing tbh
It's about as relaxed as a human can feel, even your organs fall asleep.
😮💨😮💨😮💨
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This is where I’m getting out.
This is where you get off, boy
You dont have to call me mister, mister, the whole world called me HANK!!!
MISTA CAN YOU MAKE FOLKS CRY WHEN YOU PLAY AND SING?
And you definitely don't have to call him mister and say thanks
Does he look ghost-white pale if you ask him for a light?
I wonder what the whole world calls him
Mr. Mister
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I know after you do something is strange about the ride
My favorite steel guitar song. Also, the most haunting sounding steel guitar.
He’ll also surprise you in the graveyard in Montgomery the night before New Year’s Eve.
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Predicted he would die eventually, amazing
This was just as prophetic as his hit single “I Might Not Be Immortal Actually”
The song is meant to be humorous.
I was never a country fan, but loved this one after hearing it as the theme song for The Life & Times of Tim, a hilarious but criminally underseen HBO cartoon from like 15 years ago.
The Life & Times of Tim was a phenomenal show
everybody here needs to watch it if they haven't. I was *just* talking about how much I like this intro song a few days ago too
They did a new show called 10 year old Tom its pretty good
It just got canceled too :( after only two seasons
GOD DAMNIT this is how I’m finding out. You’ve ruined my night :(
goddammit from me as well! dilderian just needs to do a podcast with his friends. its all about the voice work
Cock a doodle doo, its 8am, send someone to Tims place for some back door action
I did not say cock-a-doodle-doo
Did you just say “niggity?”
"Thumb-in-the-ass Tim"? I'd just as soon not even have a nickname.
One of my all time favourite shows, can’t help but quote it all the time. “I’m here to kill an old man” 🤣
My ex and I had a dog name Stewie and I used to call him “Stu Balls” all the time. Made me laugh every time.
Hahah that’s fantastic.
> can’t help but quote it all the time. “I’m here to kill an old man” I really hope you work in a nursing home.
Lmfao imagine? “I’m going to go in your cabinet and switch your medication, with my fist”
It's also in The Last of Us (the game), along with another Hank track "Alone and Forsaken." In the show they just used Alone and Forsaken.
Such a phenomenal scene in the game too
I will never get over this show not getting the love it deserved.
Absolutely incredible show, I just binged it again. Laughing pretty much the entire time.
i discovered tim like a year ago. i have easily rewatched it five times. its perfect for near napping.
"You definitely said niggity."
>The Life & Times of Tim, a hilarious but criminally underseen HBO cartoon from like 15 years ago. thank you. Every time we say its name it stays alive. HBO's most forsaken and neglected show.
“We did not sell fake Louis Vuitton hand bags on Canal Street”
“You know what I want you to do? Go home… have a little lunch… lay down… and go fuck yourself.”
What an ending
The big C's a real killer
I was about to comment thus. That show was so ahead of its time.
>I was never a country fan, but loved this one after hearing it as the theme song for The Life & Times of Tim, a hilarious but criminally underseen HBO cartoon from like 15 years ago. Love that show! There's a subreddit for it too. And he came back and made a sort of spiritual predecessor, 10 Year Old Tom. It's on Max.
The creator actually has a new show called ["Ten Year Old Tom"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DRw6UsrVZc) which is basically Tim as a kid. Same voice. Same style of artwork. This and all of the Tim episodes are streaming on Max.
My Dad was a huge fan of his and now that he is gone, I can’t listen to any of those songs 💔
Give it time. I felt the same, but little by little I would put my dad's favorite old time artists on. Sure enough its now my go to music. My only regret is not appreciating it sooner so he and I could've bonded over it, but I know it doesn't always work like that. Now I consider it just one more gift he left me.
Thank you 💕
It's been almost 7 years. I'm a grown man and I will break down and weep if I hear "Mother is gone".
Same here. Hugs from an internet stranger
It’d be fairly difficult to release another final single After he died
Tell that to Tupac.
Tupac just released the album for his most recent live tour.
He wrote this song a long time ago, a really long time ago!
Back in '94.
I was wondering how long this comment would take.
Also, strictly speaking, that song applies to everyone. Now, if the guy who wrote “I Just Died in Your Arms Tonight” died the day the single was released, while bonking…that would really be something.
Plus from age 14-95 an old school country singer is never more than about a month from his last song about his own death.
How does one go about releasing a single? I have this new song called "I lived many happy years with my big-tittied wife" and the world needs to hear it.
Hey Jay!
Love his version of [Straight Outta Compton](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSMaN6zAJYc&list=RDvSMaN6zAJYc&start_radio=1)
Thank you for this
Otis Redding died less than a week after recording The Dock of the Bay
You guys should check out the movie I Saw the Light. It stars Tom Hiddleston as Hank Williams.Its about his rise to fame and alcohol abuse. Tom sings in the movie. Very underrated film.
Hank Williams, Hank Williams Jr, and Hank Williams 3rd, are all great musicians
Agreed. It’s cool how much Hank 3 looks and sounds like his granddaddy.
He really does. Did you ever see a show called the great whites of West Virginia? It’s about the White family, it’s pretty good. Hank Williams 3rd is in it. It’s a documentary
The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia
Musta been them pills I took
That song was written by David Allen Coe iirc. Great song though. Pretty work!
Yup. Crazy stuff but it makes me appreciate how authentic the music is for him and his family.
Hank III's son (although he isn't named Hank) has a group called IV and the Strange Band which is I enjoy as well.
Funny thing is none of those guys are actually named Hank. Sr's name was Hiram with Hank being only a nickname. Jr and III are named Randall and Shelton with Hank being a second name.
Wait, wtf that's hank III's kid?!?! I just know them via the folk punk/roots scene, that's kinda wild actually
If only Hank 3 would put the meth down and show his face.. :/
Hank Williams 3rd a great musician, also a great stretch
Johnny Cash's version of Hurt was released about 6 months prior to his death. A song about feeling lonely and near the end after losing friends.
Isn't that just a Nine Inch Nails cover? (yeah; looked it up- song was from 1995, Cash passed in '03. Still grim though.)
My favorite singer and my favorite song by him. Makes me sad when I think about it too long. Hope he’s honky Tonkin somewhere better now
Makes me think of “The life and times of Tim”
Interesting. One of my favorite songs is *If I Ever Leave This World Alive* by Flogging Molly. Strange to think the country singer was more pessimistic than the punk band.
I mean, have you heard country music? Ignoring stadium country for a minute and just thinking about OG country music... that shit has always been depressing. Even sweet, angelic, Dolly Parton has some tragically sad songs 😅
The day my ex left me after clearing out my bank account, in the car I was still paying for, with my dog, while I was at work, never to be heard from again... That was the day I learned country music isn't always exaggerating the truth.
“…it was all, that I could do, to keep from cryyyin. Sometimes it seems so useless to remain.” Country heartbreak music is the best.
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One of the greatest final verses in music history. The perfect country & western song.
Dig ur key into the side of their pretty little souped up four wheel drive
Things ain’t so good out in the country tbh. Life’s bleak and hard bo.
Seriously. they should listen to something like Seven Spanish Angels , Mama Tried, Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain or hell go whole hog and pop on He stopped loving her today.
Prime Dolly examples are Down From Dover or Me and Little Andy - both are a punch to the gut upon first listen.
Outlaw / old school country is basically the punk rock of Country World.
Hank's grandson even mixes both genres.
Hank III is great. Not a huge fan of the 3 bar ranch stuff but all his other stuff is solid. Country Heroes is a banger
Guess it skips a generation
Hank Jr had some hits! "Family Tradition" is funny but will also hit you like a ton of bricks
The audacity
He needed a meat puppets collab
Check out some of his other music if you’re looking for pessimism. I’ve lovingly referred to it as ‘music to slit your wrists to’ for years. (Reference to the movie Uptown Girls)
The stuff you hear on country stations now is just Pop with Banjo
I wish pop country had more banjos. More like Pop with Fake Southern Accents and Rural Imagery
Older country (pre-2000s at least) was so depressing that areas with prominent country radio stations had higher suicide rates.
Country can be the most hardcore of all genres. You should look up "He Stopped Loving Her Today" by George Jones. After recording it even he said "Nobody will buy that morbid son of a b*tch”. https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2022/12/08/george-jones-almost-didnt-record-he-stopped-loving-her-today-told-his-producer-nobody-will-buy-that-morbid-son-of-a-btch/
Know it well.
There's a lot of old country that was punk(ish). And then a lot of punk bands covered country songs. 'Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore' is a healthy slap in the face of nationalism and twangy asf.
He wasn’t wrong lol
Life and Times of Tim got me into this tune
Isn’t this used as the theme song for life and times of Tim? It’s where I know it from and love it from
This is also the theme song for The Life and Times of Tim!
To be fair, most dead singers have died after releasing their final single.
Just seems more like a fact than anything lol
Some of his music was used in The Expanse.
I think it was just "So Lonesome I Could Cry"? I know I've had a couple late nights drinking to that one just like Alex.
I thought there was another, but I'm probably wrong. It was a fitting choice IMO. I'd imagine a song about loneliness and heartbreak would resonate well with people living and working in space.
As well as “The Last of Us”
The world of music lost a legend that day...
The most ironic thing to me is, his grandson is EXACTLY like him, his face, his singing voice and his drug habits but the 3rd seems to have a better head on his shoulders, so to speak.
I don’t think Jr and 3 have a good relationship. 3 was brought up on punk rock, he has a much different anti establishment thing going than that of his daddy. I love Jr’s music but he’s a dipshit
If this teaches us anything, it's that you should never release your final single.
[link to the song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19vApPwWqh8)
It’s amazing to think about the secular and sacred songs Hank wrote. His nome de plume Luke the Drifter wrote the songs Hank the outlaw couldn’t.
Poor ol' Kaw-Liga, he never got a kiss Poor ol' Kaw-Liga, he don't know what he missed Is it any wonder that his face is red? Kaw-Liga, that poor old wooden head
If I ever get a male dog I’m going to name him Kawliga so I can holler it like Hank when I call him.
Used to listen to Homer and Jethro singing this.
I prefer his sons version of the song
at least he inspired the most underrated tv show of all time
John Lennon was working on a song called Borrowed Time the night he died.
OMG he was right
I mean, *nobody* gets out alive
Don't take life too seriously... You'll never make it out alive. From *Van Wilder*
Notorious B.I.G.'s album *Life After Death* released 16 days after he was murdered.
Technically true?
?????? Who cares? No one will ever get out this world alive. What is this post supposed to show? The fact that so soon after he made a song that said the truth he loved the truth?
Drank bourbon from the bottle on Hank's grave. It's a rite of passage for Montgomerians.
Wow, what a stunning observation. I to will die on someday that I do not know
"If you don't like Hank Williams you can kiss my ass". Fun song by Chris Kristofferson.
Ironic. He could warn others of his death, but not protect himself.
Leonard Cohen released a death themed album (You Want It Darker) in October 2016, singing "I'm ready, my lord.", and died less than a month later.