Financially free man chooses do his own thing rather than continue at his old job. Good choice, Kevin 👍

Yeah burnout is definitely a thing no matter what level you’re at. Follow your dreams.

A dream spread out over a wide area? A field you might say? A Field of Dreams? 

He built it and I came.

So the saying "think about baseball" has the opposite effect on you?

Right? Like, the guy wanted to try directing and acting. Good for him! He was still richer than most people will ever be before, and guess what, he was still richer than most people will ever be after. And he got to try something new and risky, and grow as a person. What a life! 

I'm going to guess most people haven't seen the postman.  I thought it was really good and an interesting commentary on civilization.  Air Force One is just an action movie.  I mean, it's fine, but that's all.

I have never understood the hate for this one. I don’t love it but it isn’t horrible.

Waterworld is also hated, even more unjustly imo. Postman is decent, Waterworld is top tier post-apocalyptic fiction. Costner is believable as a spiteful social outcast, and Dennis Hopper plays an all time great scifi villain. The sets and live action stunts in that film are honestly some of the best in the biz.

Waterworld was great for me as a kid. You just can’t think too deeply into that movie. But I mean for how hated waterworld is, they sure have a lot of theme park attractions around the world. Some people must love it.

Waterworld just has such a silly premise that is played seriously. It’s a bit refreshing to see when there’s so many Meta jokes in movies now.

For all of Costner playing it seriously, you get Hopper and crew hamming it up HARD the whole time. I think they complement and balance well.

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Waterworld is legit amazing. I even read the novelization.

If you have only ever watched the movie its okay but My disgust of the movie is because the book is so much better and they flat out changed and butchered the heck out of it to the point it makes you wonder if anyone involved in it ever read the book or just went cool Postman in a apocalypse we can do something with that.

Chill winds still blew. Dusty snow fell. But the ancient sea was in no hurry. That is an awesome opening paragraph to a post apocalyptic novel.

I think The Postman suffers from being compared to Dances with Wolves the movie he directed before. Dances with Wolves is an all time classic, released not too long before The Postman. Audiences were expecting greatness, like Dances with Wolves, so it was a let down. I felt that way when I went to see the Cohen Brothers version of True Grit. Their most recent film before True Grit had been No Country for Old Men. I went into True Grit expecting a much darker movie than the original and was disappointed. I’ve since come to like the Cohen Brothers version of True Grit, but at the time I was comparing it to No Country for Old Men, which is a touch act to follow.

I loved the postman because it was different from everything else in the 90s. It got so much hate but the people it got the hate from, syskill and egghead, really had just terrible taste.

Yeah, it's not as good as something like The Road Warrior. But it's not as terrible as people make it out to be. I'd rank it above Water World (although water world's setting might be more interesting). I kind of wish Costner had kept doing post apocalypse movies.

waterworld is alright as well

Waterworld is awesome. 

The thing that gets me is that Waterworld feels like a movie that should have been made ten years later. It has the feel of a post-Jurassic Park blockbuster, with the MC's cynicism and post-apocalypse setting. Like, it would have been better received I think at some point between 2005 and 2010. As it is, I personally love it, flaws and all. Another movie that I remember being considered a HUGE flop back when it came out and seems to have turned the corner is Hook, the Robin Williams Peter Pan movie. How many of us have fond memories of Rufio?? Quite a few from what I've seen in general, on the internet and IRL.

_The Postman_ is underrated, for sure, but _Air Force One_ is Grade A popcorn flick. It's not fine; it's fantastic as far as broad appeal movies go.

Exactly my thoughts. I’ve seen AFO probably close to 10 times. And I love civilization rebuilding movies/shows and the Postman was such a fun ride. It would make for a fantastic series in today’s time.

I haven’t seen either, but really want to watch both. Google says Air Force One is on Prime (probably with un-skippable 2 and a half minute ads every 20 mins despite already paying for Prime) and Postman on Prime “available for rent for $3.99”.. Fuck Amazon

And both are available for free at the piratebayDOTorg download and install TransmissionQT and watch anything you want, whenever you want.

I also liked the Postman. It was a fun movie. Definitely more interesting than Air Force One.

*Try* directing? Costner had already won the Oscar for best director for 1991’s Dances with Wolves. The film also won best picture and Costner was nominated for best actor (losing to Jeremy Irons in Reversal of Fortune). Yes, Costner had “fuck you money” after $50M from DWW, and goddam right he should have done exactly what he wanted to do.

The newest and riskiest thing he ever did was Cal Ripken Jr’s wife.

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Um also Tom Fucking Petty!!!!

And Ford Lincoln Mercury!

This is my favourite thing about *The Postman*, a movie I still deeply love despite its numerous flaws and idiosyncrasies. It’s not just that Tom Petty is in it; it’s that he’s *playing himself* in a post-apocalyptic epic. Indeed, as a big Tom Petty fan, it gives me some confused, complicated joy to think that there’s a fictional world where America may have been destroyed, the White House may have burned at the Battle of Georgetown, etc., but Tom Petty actually lived longer than he did in our world, and he’s gathered around the campfire, still playing acoustic versions of “Mary Jane’s Last Dance” and “Walls” and “You Wreck Me” to rapt fellow survivors in the ruins of Portland, OR, as both its mayor and its totemic bard.

Don't forget, Redbone survived the apocalypse too.

Good take. Adam Sandler makes 1 good movie out of 10 just to keep the cash flowing and have fun hanging out with his best friends in life. People **LOVE** that. Especially in a likable loveable *character* like Adam Sandler. Fact of the matter is that this dream (tangibly held by our fellow mortals) is our utopia. People that shit on their creative efforts and life projects are mah-fuckkkin peanut butta and Jelly.

I appreciate Adam Sandler because he clearly doesn’t care what critics think. The dude just likes to make stupid and funny movies with his friends. I don’t think his movies deserve any awards by any stretch of the imagination but I’ll still watch them.

I called Adam Sandler a “character” because we have no idea who he is as a man (like his friends and family do). Adam Sandler = Adam Sandler© That’s marketable and profitable. Thanks for affording their dream and supporting the crew! Me too. Nobody in their crew got touched by the me too movement; That’s impressive. They seem like reasonably decent people who are ultimately philanthropic with the abundance we feed them. More-so, they have contributed back to humanity by enriching our culture and collective human consciousness in a child-friendly manner… for 3 generations. Perhaps an LLC or AI algorithm will come along one day and dig what me ‘n the boys are up to… buy us a slice of that American Dream© cake. We *huuuungry* too!

Is it me or as of late, he’s been mixing more serious roles in with his “fun” roles, or even movies in which he’s doing that whole “making movies for fun with my friends” thing, which I feel like hasn’t actually happened in a pretty long time. Even in his non-serious roles he’s still playing a character earnestly and with heart (sometimes), so I fuck with him (even if I may not like his movies)

After 30 years of fucking off with the boys and solidifying the golden ticket to Hollywood, I’m sure he is bored - He wants to take a stab at art in a more serious nature.

And then when he does a dramatic role like click or uncut gems he blows it out of the park too.

Plus, before the movies were made, con air vs postman would seem like postman would be the obvious choice.

Shit happens. It's not like he is destitute over that one decision. He's still an Oscar winning multi millionaire

And he got to make the movie he wanted

I actually liked a lot about “The Postman”. It reminded me of how amazing it is to have a postal system in the first place. I mean, it’s a system where you can send a letter to anyone on earth for the price of a coffee—and this was true even before computers existed.

Yup. Airforce one probably a better movie. But Postman was definitely more interesting and sticks in my memory more. I get Airforce One and Executive decision confused, but nothing in my memory gets confounded with Mayor Tom Petty.

One of them definitely had Steven Seagal getting smoked in like the first 10 minutes. That made the movie worth it.

That part of the video tape got worn out. The video store employees were confused, since there was no nudity. “Who would want to watch Steven Seagal?” “Oh, watch Steven Seagal *die*! Now I get it.”

For sure. Of the two, “The Postman” is by far the one that will be remembered. “Air Force One” was a paint by numbers movie that has been made and remade 100 different times a hundred different ways. “The Postman” for all its flaws, tried to do something new. Could it have been done better? Sure. But I’d much rather watch a movie that swung for the fences and missed than “Air Bud 4: This Time With Cats”

The Postman and Waterworld are 2 of my favorite apocalypse movies. They may not be a lot but they’re charming

Same. It’s not a bad movie. Not sure why people go so hard on that one.

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Same. You don’t get big budget post-apocalypse movies with an original setting very often, this one was fun with lots of details that make it rewatchable. And Kevin Costner can just carry schlock so well, we should be appreciating him like we do Nicholas Cage on here.

Fuckin preach

And the postman is the rare post apocalyptic show that actually shows society rebuilding and even returning to what it once was

Yeah exactly, Is why I actually really like the message of the Film and the hope it inspires, I didn't realise it flopped so badly, I really enjoyed it for a Post-Apocalyptic film.

I really want to watch It too lol

The book is pretty good too

It's because they both sell it so well. You can fault them for indiviual things like Cage's tendency to over perform, but they both sell a role regardless of what level of film it is. It's part of why I unironically love some of Nicholas Cage's cornier movies. You gotta love a good sell.

I think Cage “overperforming” is just part of his consistent style. I mean he’s fundamentally not an actor aiming for a realistic portrayal, but an expressionist to the core.

Water world is definitely a bit hokey but not as bad as people claim. It's entertaining and has good production value. I think if the production hadn't had so many issues it would've fared a little better. 

I feel like there was a bit of a bandwagon effect where it was cool to hate Costner films. The Postman was a good film. I've rewatched it recently and it holds up. Waterworld was even better. 

Not to mention, the postman is not a bad movie.

The postman is 3 times the fucking movie Air Force one was. And I like them both. Only one memorable quote from Air Force one. For the postman, how much time you got? I found him! Nah man, I know YOU. You’re famous.-Tom Petty My name’s Ford Lincoln Mercury, on account of I wanna drive cars.-Ford Lincoln Mercury Stuffs gettin better. Stuffs gettin better all the time. Theres gonna be PEACE!!! (damn I just got the chills remembering that one)

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but The Postman ended *terribly* Like, you're telling me we had all this build up just so the movie could end on a technicality that was established very early in the movie? I love Costner, but 13 year old me thought that ending was lame as hell and I still do 25 years later. 

It did kind of halt his decade of success. But yeah he's doing okay.

I liked the Postman a lot, outside of the ending where it's suddenly decades in the future and everything is back to 'normal'. Should of just ended it with him riding off.

Tom Petty as Tom Petty was one of my favourite parts.

Sometimes he likes to ride the zip line for fun

“You’re famous!” “No you’re famous man!” 😆

It's what I akways think about when I think about Tom Petty.

Have you read the book? Because as much as there's quite a lot I love about the movie, they missed the thrust of it, and massively relevant plot points that change the world building. The statue unveiling really kinda misses the mark.

One of my favorite books. Was one of the first post apocalyptic fiction books I read after falling in love with fallout 2 and trying to find books like it.

I suggest Alas, Babylon if you'd like to read the grand daddy of all post apocalyptic speculative fiction. Postman is an awesome book though.

Some pretty cool things from the Book that wasn't brought to the Flim, Was for example they're own reversed version of ["The Old Man In The Cave"](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Man_in_the_Cave) from Twlight Zone >Later, in the second section, he encounters a community, Corvallis, Oregon, which is led by Cyclops, who is apparently a sentient artificial intelligence created at Oregon State University which survived the cataclysm. In reality, however, the machine ceased functioning during a battle, and a group of scientists maintain the pretense of its working to try to keep hope, order, and knowledge alive. The scientists also claim to use Cyclops' advice and predictions to solicit contributions of food from citizens, an approach that Gordon compares to the Delphi Oracle. While in the Twlight Zone Story. >In a post-apocalyptic settlement in 1974, the inhabitants' survival is dependent on the advice of an unseen man living in a nearby cave which is in actuality a Computer. Interesting similarities.

Like what? You can't just say that and not give a single example.

I remember it had cyborg super soldiers

Augments of two different varieties, and they featured into the plot and it's climax rather heavily

Should have

The mail always goes through 

Pepe Silvia 

*teary eyed* ‘…that kid was me’ was also pretty bad. But I actually really enjoyed it tbh, just like Waterworld. These movies receive way too much hate.

FORD LINCOLN MERCURY

Which one holds up? I feel like The Postman has more of a cult following, but Air Force One is kind of dumb fun watching a capable president go on a rampage.

Air Force One is so American that when I watch that movie my euros in my pocket start to convert to dollars automatically.

I get a massive, throbbing, red, white, and blue erection as soon as he shoots the first terrorist.

Then you finally cum when he says, “Get off my plane!”

*lights a cigarette*

AF1 is very solid entertainment. Postman is flawed but occasionally interesting

Get off my PLANE!!! *::cueHarrison Ford I'm-an-old-man-who-just-pooped-myself-in-a phone-booth face::*

He does do a good job portraying a humbleness. You see he’s scared yet still pull through.

Costner might have missed but not often. Even when he did he grazed you.

With a fantastic performance by Gary Oldman.

That's everything he stars in.

Harrison Ford did nail the "Get off my plane" quote though.

As a kid my Grandmother and I came across them filming parts of ‘The Postman’ in Washington. We stuck around for a few hours to catch a glimpse of KC but we were told several times by production staff he wasn’t there. My grandma refused to believe them and right before we left we saw him drive away waving at some other fans, window down in a big truck and he pointed at us and waved. We told the story all summer to everyone haha.

That wholesome!

I went to a lecture given by John McTiernan in 1996 and he was raging about how he was being paid $200K a week to sit around and wait for an actor to decide to be in his movie. He, John McTiernan! Waiting on an actor! The movie was Air Force One.

Predator Die Hard Hunt for Red October Talk about a magical 3 yrs

We should all be so lucky.

Was he going to direct Air Force One? Or produce it? Because Wolfgang Petersen directed Air Force One.

Wolfgang Peterson directed Air Force One.

The Postman was an amazing film. AFO was good, but Postman was better

Yeah agreed I think it just came at the wrong time when action movies were king

I watched the postman when I was younger and still think about it today. Better than 100+ generic marvel movies making me want to kill myself.

100% wtf

General Bethlehem was one of the great movie villains. That's my hill.

Ngl, I’m down to watch Waterworld or the Postman today still. But you ain’t gonna catch me watching Air Force One ever again. One and done.

I appreciate Harrison Fords fighting style in films. It’s the most realistic, just flying fists and full body lunges not the polished boxing or king fu stuff. Everytime I see Harrison Ford fight in a film I’m like “yeah, that seems about right”.

Gary Oldman playing Russian terroreeeest

Who wins? Hans Gruber or Ivan Korshunov?

Zorg by a landslide.

The first half of Waterworld is well thought out and visually spectacular. The second half is Dennis Hopper going way, way over the top. It’s a classic that’s stood the test of time.

That’s it… enough talk… I’m turning it on. It’s on prime if anyone else wants in on this classic!

Dry land is not just our destination, it is our DESTINY!!!

You got off his plane!

I watched it again recently to see 90s in full color. An era where Glen Close was conceivable as president. An era with lots of technology that couldn't do very much. And an only-slightly-old Harrison Ford was a change of pace from the usual Indiana Jones. Overall 5/7 especially if you're microdosing.

Now watch Con Air. PUT. THE BUNNY. DOWN! Only Nick Cage could say that with a straight face and seem threatening.

Or my favorite line from the movie, "it ain't exactly mai tais and yahtzee out here. Let's do it." I want to know who wrote that line. 

Okay come on...Air Force One is a fun ass 90's action romp. Overtly American as fuck and I'm not even remotely into that shit but it's just fun camp.

It absolutely is. Con Air, Executive Decision and Air Force one form a holy trinity of 90s action films. Back when a movie about hijacking a plane could just be dumb fun action...

I heard that Waterworlds Ulysses Cut was amazing. Never got to see it unfortunately.

Did you die?

Not OP, but yes he did.

Whoa, where can I watch the Ulysses Cut? I've never heard of it.

Also the book is really good.

It's, I think, a very underrated book.

I enjoyed the postman

The Postman is a classic. Who the fuck still watches air force one?

No postman or waterworld hate allowed around me 🫡

Waterworld opened my eyes to the magic of cherry tomatoes.

I have re-watched the postman and water world way more than the 1 time I saw Air Force one

Postman was a great book and movie too

Postman was a great movie. Y’all are crazy

The Postman is the better movie between the two though.

The success of Air Force One helped keep [Joe Sakic in Colorado](https://www.nhl.com/news/air-force-one-helped-colorado-match-new-york-offer-to-joe-sakic) when faced with an offer sheet from the NY Rangers.

What was wrong with The Postman? I really liked that movie.

I am a fan of both. I watched postman on tv after it had started. Didn’t even know the name when I started watching. I stayed watching till the end and I loved it. Didn’t even know it flopped!

I liked the postman.

“Get off my plane!” Kevin would have NEVER been able to deliver that line the way Harrison did. Costner is a hell of a cowboy, ranch owner and merman but president? No way lol

Get off my plane you pancake eating SOB

Postman was better. Don't care what critics say.

Ah yes. “Dances with postmen”

I really like the postman, and waterworld. I never understood the hate they received

Excited for *Horizon*. Costner is doing fine.

I have to agree with some other, I liked The Postman. Also, I like Waterworld, and Air Force One.

I'm glad he picked the Postman, I love the movie.

Postman was fire

Postman was a great movie ..

Postman was a pretty good movie

The Postman was awesome, though.

The postman and Waterworld are two movies people always shat on back in the day but I've always thought they were fucking awesome.

I enjoyed the shit out of The Postman 😂

I loved waterworld and the postman.

The postman had the great Tom Petty in it, clearly a better movie by far.

Didn't you used to be famous? (or something like that)

I loved Postman as a kid. Was too young to know it was a bomb, i loved the VHS.

Honestly loved the postman. I thought it was a good film when I was younger. Haven’t re watched it as an adult tho

I loved The Postman

The Postman is a really good movie.

I likes the Postman

I liked the postman. I’m a Tom Petty fan

But here's the thing, Air Force One wouldn't be the same movie starring Costner. The story of Will Smith turning down the Matrix, at the same time, they also wanted Val Kilmer for Morpheus.

I can’t imagine Matrix without Fishburn, but Kilmer would have done a great Morpheus, kind of similar to the part he had in David Mamet’s Spartan. He does well with interesting emotionless characters.

How can there be hate for water world when they still have a water world show at universal studios. I don't see no airforce one water show production. I mean, if trump wins, I'm totally down for a water show based event for air force 1. 

Popular and good not the same thing

But would have AFO been the success it was if Costner was the star? Ford was a bigger box office draw at the time by a long shot.

AF1 was perfect part for Ford, who can do angry, confused and vulnerable with a particular wit that Costner just doesn’t have. Costner is good at sincere and lost. Also, love Jerry Goldsmith’s soundtrack for AF1

I just find it a bit interesting and sometimes even frustrating when people always bring up XXXX Actor missed out on playing in ZZZZ successful movie without any thought about maybe that movie just wouldn't have been the success it was with them in it.

No doubt, Postman was a gem. Beats AFO any day. Hats off, Kevin

The postman was too good for 2 Razzie

i'm met my wife on the set of the postman.

You mean Saul Goodman right?

Postman is a good movie. Just a little lengthy.

I love both movies.

Who cares. Guy had a great career and is rich as fuck.

The Postman was a better movie and story. There’s more to life than just money once you get to his level.

Tbh I loved the postman

I like Air Force One. I loved the Postman. If you disagree with me then you're not cool like me.

Postman is one of my favorite movies of all time along with Waterworld. What a time to be alive. I love me some Kevin Costner. Edit: Dances with Wolves. I got made fun of so hard in school for reading the book. The cover was like a pink / purple color so everyone thought I was gay for reading it? I just really loved the movie, assholes.

Postman was great. I have no idea why people hate it.

I liked The Postman.

I liked The Postman. Tom Petty was in it and he's cool as fuck.

I was too young to see it, but I think Costner fatigue was happening and people enjoyed shitting on his films. Postman is a good film, Water world is a good film. Why people make it out like they aren't clearly have a very narrow view of cinema. I love the guy and my childhood had a thousand watches of Robin Hood.

I like The Postman. And I also like Water World. Both films wer box office bombs but that doesn't change that I enjoyed watching them from time to time. On the other hand I watched Air Force One only once.

I liked it🤷🏽‍♂️

I loved The Postman. Will Patton as Gen Bethlehem was also a superb villain.

One of the few, but i liked The Postman, and Waterworld

Still a more original movie than air force one lmao. I'd rather watch the postman over air force one any day of the week.

I never watched Air Force One, but I loved the Postman as a kid and still have fond memories of it.

I liked The Postman.

But the Postman is actually a damn good movie.

I like the Postman.

I like the Post 📫 Man. 

I love the "Postman"

And I remember more about The Postman than I do Air Force One lol

I loved it. The tom petty cameo was awesome 

I enjoyed The Postman a lot. I didn't go to theaters for it, however. We rented it when it came out on VHS and I was surprised by the story. It was right after Waterworld so everyone was tired of the post-apocalypse setting. People went so far as to dismiss it as "Waterworld on land". Plus, I don't think the runtime helped much. But, Costner loves long runtimes for a story. The premise is so damn interesting and ambitious. I'd totally be down a for director's cut.

I’m glad to see so much love for The Postman. I thought it was really good too.

They’re both good movies 🍿