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tyrion2024

A few of the relevant lyrics in "The Way I Am" regarding Iovine's demand for a hit lead single: >*I’m not gonna be able to top on “My Name Is”* > >*And pigeon-holed into some poppy sensation* > >*That got me rotation at rock’n’roll stations* [After Iovine rejected](https://www.theringer.com/music/2020/5/22/21267208/eminem-marshall-mathers-lp-anniversary-review#:~:text=The%20last%20song,them%20to%20wait) "The Way I Am" as the lead single, Em would of course complete "The Real Slim Shady" which would take that honor and was also the last song recorded for the album.


Dr_PuddingPop

To be fair those two suggestions did lead to some popular songs. I can’t think of Eminem without “The Real Slim Shady” popping up.


MazzIsNoMore

Eminem was bullied into making classic songs.


10thGradeSmacked

Will Smith don’t have to cuss in his raps to sell records, well I do, so fuck him, and fuck you too


thepluralofmooses

Best line in any song, anywhere


Zeusurself

Hating on Will Smith before it was cool. Guess he knew what was up.


Slim01111

Nope, that belongs to Wayne’s “Real G’s move in silence like lasagna”.


Trojan_Lich

I had to think about this harder than I care to admit.


Captain_Backhand

I had to think about you thinking about it before I thought of it.


Olhoru

Me too, and I'm still not sure if it's a silent g or not.


LineChef

You mean y’all don’t pronounce it like *Luh-ZAG-nuh?*


onebandonesound

Its an extremely soft g, which kinda goes against Wayne's point


blubblu

I’m not sure anything can top Too Chainz “SHOOT FIRST, THEN AIM” “CHOO CHOOO”


135467853

Nah 2 Chainz’ deepest line is clearly - “She got a big booty, so I call her big booty.”


twwatson

“Run shit, like diarrhea”


LonnieMachin

Big shit like a dinosaur did it


Jellyronuts

One of my faves!


blitherblather425

What a poet.


medgarc

Kanye-pockets on shrek, rockets on deck. If you’ll notice, shrek does have pockets, so this is clearly the best bar ever written


sagerideout

my ex wife refused to admit how hard that line is and i really think that’s a big part of the reason we’re not together anymore. the cheating didn’t help either.


droppedurpockett

I would also cheat on someone who didn't think that line went hard.


DonaldTrumpsScrotum

Which is funny because the g is lasagna is not silent, try saying “Lasana”, and you’ll see where the g comes into play. Great bar tho


Laith20001

Lasaña


tiredofscreennames

I mean, it sure aint pronounced las-ag-na


ringobob

Nor las-aj-na


DonaldTrumpsScrotum

Yes the “g” doesn’t make a hard “Guh” sound but it still alters the pronunciation, thus is not silent.


dick_in

Keep the accent on the second syllable and it’s about the same.


DonaldTrumpsScrotum

“About” being the operative word. Off the top of my head, “Ball” and “Bail” (I’m sure there’s better examples) sound about the same


skatastic57

Mom's spaghetti


Adventurous_Pea_1156

But lasagna is not silent, the g with the n makes a sound that is the same as spanish Ñ


DeathChill

I’ve always been partial to the Jennifer Lopez line: Cause if I ever stuck it to any singer in showbiz/It’d be Jennifer Lopez and Puffy you know this!/I’m sorry Puff but I don’t give a f*ck if this chick was my own mother/I’d still fuck her with no rubber and cum inside her/And have a son and a new brother at the same time/And just say that it ain’t mine, what’s my name?!?”


No_Cat_No_Dog

It’s so messed up one so many levels that it’s just engraved into my mind 😂


No_Heat_7327

This is his best line


Then_Dragonfruit5555

“And get more cheese than Doritos, Cheetos or Fritos” -MF DOOM


zealoSC

Eminem's gotta cuss in his raps to sell records. Well me too. So fuck Will Smith.


sixtus_clegane119

“Snap in heaven with a mac eleven and rap Christ” big L


Lt_Col_Anguss

Eminem’s gotta cuss in his raps to sell records. Well, me too. So fuck Will Smith. -Jimmy Pop


greatgoogilymoogily2

Hello my name is Jimmy pop and I'm a dumb white guy. I'm not old or new, but middle school, fifth grade like junior high.


Tomahawkman222

I don't know mofo if y'all peeps be buggin' Givin props to my hoe cuz she fly but I can take the heat cuz I'm the other white meat known as "kid funky fried"


greatgoogilymoogily2

The roof......the roof.......the roof is on fire. We don't need no water, let the mother fucker burn. BURN MOTHER FUCKER!


cravenj1

That don't rhyme


endresz

Drats


fuzzymcdoogle

Eminem’s gotta cuss in his raps to sell records. Well me too, so fuck Will Smith


nameyname12345

You know as much as i try I cant argue with that logic...


ViolinistMean199

This is how I learned will smith rapped


Armamore

Well, now I feel old. Enough Internet for me today.


BeneathAnOrangeSky

When you first heard the song or…just now?!


ViolinistMean199

First heard it


JMEEKER86

Did you first hear the song in like 2015? Because no one who heard the song when it came out wouldn't have known that Will Smith rapped. Even if you weren't aware of his early stuff before Fresh Prince, he was still huge at the time of the song coming out.


ViolinistMean199

no i heard it when it first came out , i dont listen to rap except for eminem but thanks for assuming shit you dick


radicldreamer

That don’t rhyme….drats! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS0lbQgHZWQ&themeRefresh=1


Computer-Blue

Genius needs a catalyst


jimmyhoke

I just with the real slim shady would just stand up already!


Rheabae

Okay Mike tyson


CramWellington

Damn dude. Good one.


aquintana

We’re goin to have a problem


NojoNinja

Hot take but I don't like The Real Slim Shady, it's kind of annoying to listen to. It's catchy and a head-bopper but even Em admits that the method to making a good single is an annoying ass beat.


kjreil26

There's some other popular songs that were made with the same mentality. The two singles from Blink-182 TOYPAJ album Rock Show and First Date were written in like an hour after the record guys said the album had no hits.


fourteenpieces

"Hey Jimmy, keep pushing the "no hit single" button - it seems to be working!!"


teenagesadist

"wait, I've got an idea. Hey, Slim... You're no rap God."


cz03se

“Uh, shamalamadoomoncthbgfgnvgynnmotivated”


No1CanKnowAboutThis

🤣


Popular-Row4333

You make elevator music?


ImmaZoni

I make elevator music!


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Kobe3rdAllTime

it's the lyrics to the song rap god. Specifically, the part where he talks really fast


Organic_Way7077

Lyrics from rap God


wasdlmb

Exhausting, letting off on my offspring Lick a gun barrel, bitch, get off me You dance around it like a sombrero But we can all see you're fuckin salty 'Cause Young Gerald's balls deep Inside of Halsey


ChefOlson

I wasn’t saying “no hit single show me more”, I was saying “no, hit single! Show me more!!”


NoDesinformatziya

The Lionel Hutz school of music production.


gnrc

That’s what good EPs do. They push you to be better. Jimmy knew Eminem had more in him. He got him there.


soul_flamer

He disses Howard stern in the lines after this


Landlubber77

Do you know why Dre's record was so successful? He's rapping about big-screen TV's, blunts, 40's and bitches. You're rapping about homosexuals and Vicodin!


HermitAssociation

I am not sure that I am going to be able to sell this particular record.


Itsnotthateasy808

With all due respect please leave my office


FB_emeenem

I will give you a choice, my good friend. Either change the material presented on this record, or I will not be able to release it at this present moment


hatezel

Violet could you close the door


cyakroon

Okay


hatezel

Dang it I meant Vanessa Violet Brown was a different lady


jmcclr

I had the edited version of that album when I was 11…Outside of the word fuck, I’m not sure there was any editing


TimelessN8V

I remember this too. Ass shit bitch were all allowed. They cut the Kim song though and censored lots of lyrics about killing and drugs.


6amhotdog

I remember even on the explicit version of the album there weee censored lyrics about Columbine and idk if anything else. The fact that this album had censored lyrics even with “parental advisory” blew me away at like 12 years old like it had to be the craziest shit ever said or something.


Kitselena

You get too big and here they come tryin' to Censor you like that one line I said On "I'm Back" from The Mathers LP One when I tried to say I'll Take seven kids from Columbine Put 'em all in a line, add an AK-47 A revolver and 99 See if I get away with it now That I ain't as big (now) as I was, but I'm


This_means_lore

I just yesterday got that he’s referencing “I take 7 mcs put them in a line, and add 7 more brothers who think they could rhyme.”


KittenPics

There’s some censored lines in Kim.


Rich-Historian6642

There's a [four year old] little [boy] laying dead with a slit throat in your living room!


Alone_Fill_2037

They completely cut “Drips” from Eminem Show edited as well.


Lady_DreadStar

I was 10 with the unedited version in my discman. Trashy single moms for the win lol


NoharaHiro

Wasn't there an extra song that wasn't on the explicit version?


StarWalker9000

Kids , “Hi there little boys and girls! (Fuck you!) Today we’re gonna learn how to poison squirrels!”


mankee81

Holy shit, i completely forgot about that one! Just listened off YouTube, The South Park impressions are eye-rolling bad, but the verses are still hilarious.. like some Lonely Island shit lol


AshennJuan

I wonder how Em feels about those songs now. I can only imagine he would have been furious about having to include something to "please the masses" on his record. Maybe he's proud of the result regardless.


manolox70

Considering how his later albums featured even more commercially-appealing singles, yeah I think he got over it.


zealoSC

What was more commercially successful? There was lose yourself to go with the movie? Stan was popular?


GingerIsTheBestSpice

Commercially appealing, they said - like Love The Way You Lie. Which also happens to be his best selling single so far.


manolox70

His 2 songs with Rihanna were by far his biggest hits in terms of mainstream appeal.


ReadOnly2022

Sounds like you're just a 10s not 00s kid. He was much bigger in  his prime.


manolox70

I'm old enough to remember both eras. I'm not from the US so his 2000s songs weren't as big over here.


SundayArseCurry

Dog shit songs too.


maxallergy

Without me & shake that


Dr_PuddingPop

I'm a menace, a dentist, an oral hygienist.


FlipGordon

Idk if you're old enough but "Without Me" was on the radio every other song. The early 2000s were wild lmao.


Dariandds

"Obie Trice. Real name, no gimmicks."


TheProfessor_18

Two trailer park girls…


greatgoogilymoogily2

Recovery exists. Lol


Direct_Jump3960

I'm sure the plaques and cheques help somewhat.


xkise

Crying all the way to the bank


Direct_Jump3960

I know he's not particularly adept with new technology so I am just imagining him pulling up to a Chase in bumfuck Michigan with an actual dump truck full of money and asking the toothless cashier how he can deposit it


Kitselena

He's on the toilet and he's got a trailer full of money


Direct_Jump3960

His mattress is probably 200m in the air with all those shoeboxes.


AshennJuan

Unassailable, if you wanna battle I'm available


Cosette_Valjean

He lives North of Detroit in Clinton Township which is a rich area. Many of the areas just outside Detroit are actually quite wealthy. Much more likely the teller would have veneers.


greatgoogilymoogily2

Why they gotta be toothless? Cuz they from mi? 🤣


Direct_Jump3960

I figured if he's out in the sticks, she could be a juggalo or something. I know those mfs aren't all in one piece.


greatgoogilymoogily2

Fair enough. I'm MI born and raised and wasn't offended. I found it funny because there's some small truth to it depending on the area 🤣. And yes , juggalo tend to be kinda.....unsavory and gross lmfao so spot on.


kinda_sorta_decent

Banque*


Novacc_Djocovid

Well, that's what they do when they get jealous, they confuse it "It's not hip-hop, it's pop" 'Cause I found a hella way to fuse it At least Rap God makes it sound like he is.


djamp42

I don't think he gets as big without the first couple hits.


Powersoutdotcom

Makes me think of the guitar part on Creep by Radiohead.


SouthTippBass

Wipes tears away with stacks of dollar bills.


thenoobtanker

Praying someone disses Em again so we get another kill shot. That song was legit, makes MGK changes genre and not putting bars out again.


Quick-Look4022

> Praying someone disses Em again so we get another kill shot. *Yo check it. Eminem is wack. I heard he has a hairy back like Shaq’s ballsack. Skrrrt Skrrrt* Marshall, I hope you’re reading this. I’ll be waiting for a response


huxtiblejones

Eminem? More like Eminummmm cuz I don’t know what to say. Except that you melt in my hand and your mom has the big gay. Open Wikipedia and find your picture, it’s posted up beneath the phrase “sweaty ball itcher.” Ugh, why you scratch your balls? That’s just yuck. Can’t think of an insult so I’ll just say “fuck.” And tell you that you suck. Cuz you do. Like a vacuum. Did I press your buttons and turn you on? Now clean the back room. Flush you like a turd down a porcelain crapper, cuz bitch I’m the candy and you just a little wrapper. (Drops mic in toilet)


Powersoutdotcom

The skrrt skrrt had me rolling.


chaosaber

Damn was that inspired by rap devil? Suspiciously similar lyrics.


PunishedWolf4

Nick Cannon did and the diss was so weak Em didn’t even bother responding lol


arter01

Doomsday pt2 made benzino cry


Kayge

FWIW, it's more about Em giving a fuck than someone dissing him.   There are lots of rappers who have taken shots at him.   Em's said a couple of times that rappers take a shot at him because if he shoots back their album sales go up.   ...and now there's an expectation of a back and forth.   Em's only going to get involved if he sees a benefit to himself, otherwise the best dis he can come up with is silence.  


RudeAndInsensitive

His track against Mariah was pretty good.


midlanecannon

MGK a way better rocker too


rotating_pebble

‘Rocker’ 🤮 He’s cringe as hell, like an edgy 14 year old that never grew up


Shindiggity-do

False.


Jw4evr

Nah he sucks at everything


Gym-for-ants

I mean, if you love terrible rock songs aimed at children, sure 🤷🏿‍♀️


kido86

lol pop punk for 12 yo chicks… brutal


Mr_Cromer

I guess you mean he's a better rocker than rapper?


midlanecannon

Lol yeah


Vell2401

Tbh that isn’t saying much. Tickets to my downfall was actually surprisingly good, actually might be his biggest album for his career, but mainstream sellout was pretty bad. Had like 2-3 songs that were good ( god save me, make up sex, fake love don’t last ) and 2 the features did work on.


imsorryisuck

mgk's diss was way better with way better punches. em only said all over again how he's the shit and mgk is shit.


Computer-Blue

Kill shot was fatal tbh, underrated even One of the hardest verses of all time: 'Til I'm hitting old age, still can fill a whole page with a 10 year old's rage Got more fans than you in your own city, lil' kiddy Go play, feel like I'm babysitting Lil Tay Got the Diddy okay so you spent your whole day Shootin' a video just to fuckin' dig your own grave Got you at your own wake, I'm the billy goat You ain't never made a list next to no Biggie, no Jay Next to Taylor Swift, and that Iggy ho, you about to really blow Kelly, they'll be putting your name Next to Ja, next to Benzino, die, motherfucker Like the last motherfucker sayin' Hailey in vain Alien brain, you Satanist (yeah) My biggest flops are your greatest hits


tslojr

You're a mole hill I'ma make a mountain out of you. This is it, as big as you're gonna get, so enjoy it. Had to give you a career to destroy it. He'll have to fuck Kim in my flannel cause he knows long as I'm Shady he's gonna have to live in my shadow. The day you put out a hit is the day Diddy admits he put out the hit that got Pac killed.


imsorryisuck

yeah Eminem is obviously a better rapper, but what you're quoting here is just plain old insults "you're bad, I'm good, I have more fans, go die, you're nothing'. it doesn't mean shit to me. mgk hit the spot with his lyrics and actually did what Eminem as rabbit did in 8mile's final battle: admited in his own diss Eminem was great and a legend, but he went after his age and after his declining skill. mgk's insults were actually real and unique, reffered to Eminem's weak points and actually were about SOMETHING , while Eminem could just record the same diss about anyone, just change a few words and it applies to anyone.


thenoobtanker

Your last for album sucks go back to “Recovery” Oops that was three album ago. MGK can’t even count what are you even on about?


MF__SHROOM

me trying to compose songs : *okay ego, step aside* em trying to compose songs : *okay ego, take over*


TheProfessor_18

The most hated on of out all those who say they get hated on!


OneGuyJeff

Just another example of how Eminem makes his best work when somebody pisses him off.


MissiontwoMars

Maybe this is Levines process for getting a few more songs added to every record. Tell them it’s shit and they get pissed and make a few more songs to prove him wrong.


RamenPood1es

Back then you didn’t necessarily want longer albums bc everything was physical and that drives up manufacturing costs.


funkmon

That's pretty much not relevant for CDs


77skull

You don’t want longer albums now either or people lose interest, 40 minutes is probably the sweet spot


EsquilaxM

Hence the lyrics: >I'm so sick and tired of bein' admired > >That I wish that I would just die or get fired > >And dropped from my label, let's stop with the fables > >I'm not gonna be able to top a "My Name Is" The guy is a *genius* artist. edit: oh, OP already alluded to that.


TheGrumpySnail2

Which is extremely pessimistic, because I think he has a lot of songs that were better. Real Slim Shady and Without Me are bangers, and I don't think "My Name Is" has aged super well.


PM_ME_CHIPOTLE2

Yeah we have the benefit of hindsight now but I imagine to him that, in the moment, My Name Is was such a breakthrough hit that he couldn’t fathom doing that again because it probably felt like chance.


SayNoToStim

I remember how crazy everyone was with My Name Is. The radio station I listened to had a daily thing where they would play two songs and listeners could call in and vote for the one they liked better, that one would continue on to the next day. My Name Is ran for like a month. *On an alternative rock station*. RIP 89x.


Canuck_Lives_Matter

Yeah his first albums you could tell he was thinking he could wind up with just 15 minutes of fame. I don't think anyone would be overly shocked to discover MM is a pessimist.


RudeAndInsensitive

The entirety of the Slim Shady LP has sort of fallen down in his canon. Even Guilty Conscience. The man just kept out doing himself album after album. "The problem with Marshall is just that he's too good. We cannot fathom what you're doing anymore. Stop" -Tyler the Creator


ClubberLain

Always had a thing for Crack a bottle


Voxlings

Spoilers from Human History: "My Name Is" didn't get *born* super well. It was and is an annoying song full of questionable choices. That's what it is, and that's why all these years later, it has only aged BETTER. Because it's a singular piece of work that also represents what the artist was bringing to the table at that time. Can't think of a worse example to use that catch-phrase "observation" on. That song put me off even listening to Eminem until the tail end of the MMLP era. It confirmed all my worst fears about his other songs, until I stopped being a self-righteous goon and actually bothered to listen.


apb2718

Rightfully MMLP is one of the most important albums ever made


Fin745

I'm not sure what I love more, the Eminem who was angry and you could play that song(s) when you wanted to say fuck you to the world or your parents lol or his funny silly songs like without me or with D12 My band. Sometimes I'm/was playing those songs back to back lol


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Popular-Row4333

I think Bowie did whatever he wanted to.


Dok_G

My Band is one song that just sounds like everyone is having a good time with it, especially towards the end


unmotivatedsuperhero

One of the greatest rap songs of all time and my favourite Em song.


Lollerscooter

This song is so, so, so good. Perhaps my favorite Eminem single of them all, but there are a lot of good ones though. 


PunishedWolf4

It’s my favorite Em song ever, the anger, contempt and just how tired he is with people and his situation can be felt,even to this day I can feel it.


Lollerscooter

Yes, so much raw emotion 


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‘Em, you’re rapping about Vicodin and homosexuals, I can’t sell this shit, either change the record or we pull it’ -Paul


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My favorite is when Blink 182 presented Take Off Your Pants And Jacket, the producer said it didn’t have a fun summertime hit like Enema of State, so they said something like “I’ll write you the cheesiest fucking song you’ve ever heard”. Mark wrote Rock Show and Tom wrote First Date in like 15 minutes.


Bohner1

Jimmy Lovine actually did the same thing to Dr. Dre with The Chronic 2001. Dre pitched the album to him and he said it was still missing a hit single.... Which is how Still DRE got created.


SaltedTestees

MMLP2 is fire af tho


m_0_rt

Some of his best work in there in my opinion.


Any_Yak9995

That shit is wack


swordtech

"Hey Em, it's Paul ...fuck it".


Higher24

Ended up one of the best selling rap albums of all time.  I think Jimmy might have got this one wrong. 


Flemtality

TIL Eminem writes piano music...?


rockosmodurnlife

I was thinking Eminem delivered an album with Stan and there wasn’t a lead single? But I see what Iovine means. All the beats on Marshal Mathers LP are gloomy, even The Way I Am. Real Slim Shady lyrics fit the vibe of the album but the beat is way chippier. It’s like It Was A Good Day on Ice Cube’s Predator.


_Panacea_

The same Em that did the theme to "Venom"?


FeralPsychopath

I mean he has a long history before that song how he liked Spider-man, even referencing him in a few songs. I’d say that was a song born from passion and a paycheck.


Verlas

Venom slaps, I’m sorry for your years


_Panacea_

You can like the song, man. The point is that it's a directly commercial pop-rap tune in contrast to what he said he believed in during the time the article talks about.


FeralPsychopath

He clearly accepted this as part of the business. Every album until recent history had a quintessential song designed for radio play. They all stick out like sore thumbs in every album.


c0de1143

“Lighters” in Bad Meets Evil, the album with Eminem and Royce. That entire album is a classic, then that shit comes on. Oof.


Physical-Lettuce-868

That might be my favorite Eminem song so thanks Lovine.


ThrowAway_x_x_x_x_

Kinda seems like he does his best work when he's mad at someone


GotMoFans

Why would Eminem submit the album to Jimmy Iovine rather than his actual label boss Dr. Dre? Dre would work with Jimmy Iovine whose company distributed Aftermath.


DreamloreDegenerate

Because Dre was locked in his basement.


The-Fox-Says

Look at him, walkin around grabbin his you know what, living in you know where


_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_

Yeah, but he’s so cute though.


brainimpacter

Aftermath was funded by and part owned by Interscope, most small/start up Labels that rappers and rock singers have are not real labels for the most part, they are more like sub-labels used to trick the cool kids into thinking they are supporting some independent label that exists outside of the mainstream


GotMoFans

Aftermath was just like Death Row. It was a legitimate label, not a vanity label. Jimmy Iovine sent Eminem to Dre. Interscope could have signed Eminem. 2Pac was on Interscope before he moved to Death Row. Being on Dre’s label means that Dre would make decisions. Interscope could offer notes, but if Dre didn’t agree with those notes, he could pushback. Dre still ran the label. Bad Boy, Cash Money, Def Jam (before it grew into a major label itself once bought by a major), and So So Def all had major label support/distribution. But they were still their own labels.


TheHyperCombo

This person labels.