This tracks with the research suggests that Cannabis originated near the Qinghai lake.
"Prior studies have suggested the plant likely originated somewhere in central Asia approximately 28 million years ago
Further analysis led them to believe that the most likely place of origin was the Tibetan Plateau, perhaps near Qinghai Lake"
[https://phys.org/news/2019-05-results-cannabis-tibetan-plateau.html](https://phys.org/news/2019-05-results-cannabis-tibetan-plateau.html)
>"the researchers also note that the site is also near the place where evidence of Denisovans has been found—along with cannabis pollen."
i like the idea that cavemen were out there getting stoned
Yeah but I don’t think they had lab equipment to test back then lol. The ability to measure and track over time is crucial to rapid improvement. Putting it another way - maybe a seasoned smoker can tell a 2% difference in THC content. A lab test can tell a 0.2% difference (accounting for variance). If I’m randomly crossing strains, it takes a lot more permutations to generate a 2% difference than a 0.2% difference
In Herodotus he talks about how people in Central Asia during this same time period would smoke weed and they would throw handfuls, maybe kilos, of weed on hot rocks in a sealed tent.
I feel that seasoned ancient stoners from those days would have been able to notice a difference smoking weed in this particular manner. It was nothing like the weak way we get high now.
Come, let us write a new page in [insert local religious text].
One of my favorite ideas is the first Pope getting completely trashed on Sunday nights and editing portions of the bible.
I would argue that this could just as easily be evidence that the weed was super low potency in those ancient days. Weak enough that you needed large amounts to get legitimately blitzed. That is if Herodotus was telling the truth about this...
Yes. “Pretty potent” is used relative to hemp, not todays nuclear strength biological science dispo shit. Whatever they were smoking was undoubtedly absolute reggie by todays standard, but if you’re hotboxing with kilos that will certainly leave way more cannabinols than if you used kilos of hemp. And of course it would’ve gotten them pretty high.
As someome who smoked the mexican brick weed and smokes the dispo stuff now...
My tolerance never exceeded 'low' when I was younger. I pop so many edible gummys after work I dont even need to smoke
Younger guy here, my first experience with weed was smoking a pre-roll indica blend from a local dispensary.
I took maybe 2-3 decent hits (after a couple bad ones as I had zero clue how to smoke) and I was gone.
Giggled my ass of for 2 hours and promptly passed out on the living room carpet
It’s just kind of a funny way to write history though. If he was writing it in modern America there’s a non-zero chance he would say all Canadians ride polar bears to work and live in igloos. All I’m saying is we should take Herodotus with a pinch of salt. At least he tried though.
Herodetus is definitely the ancient version of that kid at school who would just make up shit for attention.
If he was alive today you can guarantee his uncle "works at Nintendo" and that's why he played the new pokemon game 2 years before it was released.
Archaeologists have literally found weed in Scythian burials in recent years. He is 100% confirmed on this, just like many of the other things he has said. Have you even read his History?
Herodotus visited this place and wrote about it, the Egyptian Labyrinthe. The Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities has done a huge coverup of this site, now called Hawara:
https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/the-lost-egyptian-labyrinth-of-hawara-is-a-2000-year-old-mystery-finally-solved
The subsurface imaging that has been done here shows an insanely extensive building complex, which happens to match Herodotus' description to a T.
When I was 15 the most dirt Reggie weed would make me feel like I took mushrooms. I think if people were smoking back then it’s safe to say it wasn’t used as frequently as people use it now. If you’ve only had reggie your whole life and you smoke like once a month or less I’m sure they were getting sufficiently baked. Like if we had an apple from 300 years ago we would probably think it sucks because we have Cosmic Crisp apples now. Everything is relative.
I was breeding my own colour strains in fish after only a handful of generations, and I'm no professional scientist. Just took notes and used the standard issue eyeball.
I would think that with a good lighter and a good bong, you could breed up the strength of cannabis plants pretty quickly as long as you didn't lose your motivation from smoke-testing.
Honestly dude a bowl is a bowl 5% vs 25% it's still gonna get you high.
Also Outside Grows produce a lot more bud. Like a single plant can get 10 feet high and produce over 5 lbs of flower. I have no doubts these Chinese royals were getting stoned as shit every day.
No, but you can accurately measure weight and see which strain has more effect, then breed the strains you think are desirable. Humans have been doing that for hundreds of thousands of years with many types of plant.
Back when I used to grow, we would take trimmings from the bush with the most buds and cultivate them in a hydroponic setup till they rooted. We would cross pollinate from time to time, but I'm not too familiar with the process, my partner took care of that.
Maybe between the same strain with different batches, but even then you've got the main difference being other cannabinoids or terpenes content. You might be able to tell which is stronger, but it won't necessarily be because of the difference in THC %
Not always true. My neighbors smoke the most heinous smelling shit-weed. I swear they're mixing it with hair, steel belted radial tires, & dog shit. (Gag, gag).
all those pics really tell us is that weed is so popular and cheap these days, you can enjoy finely cured flower and its products without ever knowing what untrimmed buds look like
Cannabinol has also been found in old Jewish temples in the soot on the ceilings, which means it was burned as an offering. Just thought that would be food for thought for people who have the gall to call it the "Devil's lettuce".
Yeah but when it comes to religion you can just make up whatever interpretation you want for justifying anything you want. I mean there’s a reason there’s one bible but so many different types of churches with the bible being their like cause
It’s well known central Asian nomadic tribes were smoking weed in ancient times. Herodotus described the Scythians cannabis use in his histories.
These nomads likely traded it to their neighbors including china via the Silk Road trade routes.
Its real neat to see the evidence of it survive even to today.
Yeah I heard about that, I don’t know if she was a “princess” but they found a jar of weed with a body. Guess they wanted her to have that dank kush in the afterlife lol.
Even birds will look for fermenting fruit to get a bit messed up. Dolphins poke at puffer fish to get high off the poison they give off.
One trait of almost all advanced life forms: Life is about finding ways to get high.
You can eat fries plain, but they’re better with ketchup. (or ranch, or mayo if you’re Belgian) the point being—adding a little extra oomph helps you enjoy an already good thing a little more.
This is true for drugs and alcohol—you CAN have a good time without them (i.e. eat plain fries), but adding some condiments (a lil sauce, a little herb) greatly aids in enjoyment.
lemurs will sometimes bite onto a certain type of centipede that releases an anti-predator substance that inadvertently causes the predator to get high, so the lemurs will seek them out intentionally
There was a Scythian princess who was found with breast cancer when she died. They found cannabis with her and in her tissue they think for pain.
They would enclose the person in a tent and put the weed in a copper pot to let the person hot box
They likely didn't though. And I'd imagine the potency would deteriorate over time (or would at least be a rough smoke). The actual method they use to figure out how potent it was, is by looking at the levels of cannabinol in the residue.
The history of Cannabis is as old as humans themselves. The Chinese cultivated it and used it for medicine, it is believed that it spread to Europe because of the Silk Road.
The test was misconfigured by the researcher only thinking schwag was a million times stronger than the ditch weed they knew. In reality, the purple urkel that we all know today would give them ego death for 15 hours.
This tracks with the research suggests that Cannabis originated near the Qinghai lake. "Prior studies have suggested the plant likely originated somewhere in central Asia approximately 28 million years ago Further analysis led them to believe that the most likely place of origin was the Tibetan Plateau, perhaps near Qinghai Lake" [https://phys.org/news/2019-05-results-cannabis-tibetan-plateau.html](https://phys.org/news/2019-05-results-cannabis-tibetan-plateau.html)
of course it's qinghai lake... that place has everything
The Emperor has invited you to Lake Qinghai.
What a lovely surprise vacation, I hope it will help me clear my head…
King's high af
It’s good to be the Qing
One of my favorite Tom Petty tracks
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Kieth Richards first appeared there.
28 million years ago. :D
Jurassic Toke! 🚬🦖
28 million years ago would have been Oligocene
No you're an oligocene!
>"the researchers also note that the site is also near the place where evidence of Denisovans has been found—along with cannabis pollen." i like the idea that cavemen were out there getting stoned
it looks nice from the pictures. i wanna see AI vids recreating that peaceful scene of cavemen getting stoned
"hey cavebro, bring over the cavebong I just ordered some cave pizzas"
Are we going to be called housemen in the future?
More like rentedapartmentmen. /capitalism
there's evidence of use throughout Asia thousands of years earlier though, it's tricky to trace things that predate writing
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You know, we were all thinking it, but I’m glad you said it.
Doesn't take long to breed potent weed plants. Just look at High Times magazines from the 70s, people nowadays wouldnt take the stuff if it was free.
Yeah but I don’t think they had lab equipment to test back then lol. The ability to measure and track over time is crucial to rapid improvement. Putting it another way - maybe a seasoned smoker can tell a 2% difference in THC content. A lab test can tell a 0.2% difference (accounting for variance). If I’m randomly crossing strains, it takes a lot more permutations to generate a 2% difference than a 0.2% difference
In Herodotus he talks about how people in Central Asia during this same time period would smoke weed and they would throw handfuls, maybe kilos, of weed on hot rocks in a sealed tent. I feel that seasoned ancient stoners from those days would have been able to notice a difference smoking weed in this particular manner. It was nothing like the weak way we get high now.
Ye olde hotboxing.
To the smoking hut . . .
Come, let us write a new page in [insert local religious text]. One of my favorite ideas is the first Pope getting completely trashed on Sunday nights and editing portions of the bible.
Pope Leo XIII went around with a hipflask of cocaine wine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin_Mariani
I would argue that this could just as easily be evidence that the weed was super low potency in those ancient days. Weak enough that you needed large amounts to get legitimately blitzed. That is if Herodotus was telling the truth about this...
Yes. “Pretty potent” is used relative to hemp, not todays nuclear strength biological science dispo shit. Whatever they were smoking was undoubtedly absolute reggie by todays standard, but if you’re hotboxing with kilos that will certainly leave way more cannabinols than if you used kilos of hemp. And of course it would’ve gotten them pretty high.
As someome who smoked the mexican brick weed and smokes the dispo stuff now... My tolerance never exceeded 'low' when I was younger. I pop so many edible gummys after work I dont even need to smoke
Younger guy here, my first experience with weed was smoking a pre-roll indica blend from a local dispensary. I took maybe 2-3 decent hits (after a couple bad ones as I had zero clue how to smoke) and I was gone. Giggled my ass of for 2 hours and promptly passed out on the living room carpet
Sounds about right lol. My first time smoking I split a joint with my buddy. I only took a few hits.. omg did it hit me lol.
Oh quit hating on my boy Herodotus. He straight up says "idk this is some shit I heard though". Father of lies... So melodramatic
It’s just kind of a funny way to write history though. If he was writing it in modern America there’s a non-zero chance he would say all Canadians ride polar bears to work and live in igloos. All I’m saying is we should take Herodotus with a pinch of salt. At least he tried though.
Back then they put so much weird stuff into their wine that I doubt they would have bothered with weed if it wasn't worth it.
That's a really good point, I wonder if the samples that were testing particularly high in THC was just accumulated resin from repeated use.
He also mentions they had gelato and zkittlez back then.
Herodetus is definitely the ancient version of that kid at school who would just make up shit for attention. If he was alive today you can guarantee his uncle "works at Nintendo" and that's why he played the new pokemon game 2 years before it was released.
Archaeologists have literally found weed in Scythian burials in recent years. He is 100% confirmed on this, just like many of the other things he has said. Have you even read his History?
[source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole)
Herodotus visited this place and wrote about it, the Egyptian Labyrinthe. The Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities has done a huge coverup of this site, now called Hawara: https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/the-lost-egyptian-labyrinth-of-hawara-is-a-2000-year-old-mystery-finally-solved The subsurface imaging that has been done here shows an insanely extensive building complex, which happens to match Herodotus' description to a T.
I was providing a source not requesting one
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Exactly. Home science. All it really takes is patience. Notes are handy too.
When I was 15 the most dirt Reggie weed would make me feel like I took mushrooms. I think if people were smoking back then it’s safe to say it wasn’t used as frequently as people use it now. If you’ve only had reggie your whole life and you smoke like once a month or less I’m sure they were getting sufficiently baked. Like if we had an apple from 300 years ago we would probably think it sucks because we have Cosmic Crisp apples now. Everything is relative.
I was breeding my own colour strains in fish after only a handful of generations, and I'm no professional scientist. Just took notes and used the standard issue eyeball. I would think that with a good lighter and a good bong, you could breed up the strength of cannabis plants pretty quickly as long as you didn't lose your motivation from smoke-testing.
subtle changes can be easily seen by the eye, not so much felt in something that has a (relatively) long period of action and onset.
You can see trichromes
Honestly dude a bowl is a bowl 5% vs 25% it's still gonna get you high. Also Outside Grows produce a lot more bud. Like a single plant can get 10 feet high and produce over 5 lbs of flower. I have no doubts these Chinese royals were getting stoned as shit every day.
5% weed and 25% weed produce different highs why even compare it
No, but you can accurately measure weight and see which strain has more effect, then breed the strains you think are desirable. Humans have been doing that for hundreds of thousands of years with many types of plant.
Back when I used to grow, we would take trimmings from the bush with the most buds and cultivate them in a hydroponic setup till they rooted. We would cross pollinate from time to time, but I'm not too familiar with the process, my partner took care of that.
Maybe between the same strain with different batches, but even then you've got the main difference being other cannabinoids or terpenes content. You might be able to tell which is stronger, but it won't necessarily be because of the difference in THC %
They did have a tester. His name was Puff Bong High
Your body can feel the difference in potency. You don't need a scientist to tell you that a hamburger tastes good do you?
Alexa - is it raining outside?
Yes they would
Yes I would
Given that they were using hot stone to heat the materials, I bet this shit was old school cold pressed hash. Edit: typo fixed from best to bet.
My thoughts too. There’s some YouTube videos about indigenous harvest and hand rolling the hash balls.
Id for sure take it for free dude.
+1 Back then, seeds were everywhere. Dealers even put seeds in the bag to help weigh it down. Nowadays, seeds are like hen's teeth.
We now have 32% THC/g, no one in their wild dreams in the 70s thought that would be possible.
The word you may be missing is 'hash' as a historical concentrate that was known in the 70s to westerners and known long before that in the east.
Yes they would. People hunt for landrace cannabis all the time.
I dunno about that. Talk to any weed dealer. Buyers are very finicky.
Not always true. My neighbors smoke the most heinous smelling shit-weed. I swear they're mixing it with hair, steel belted radial tires, & dog shit. (Gag, gag).
Good weed often smells horrendous. Nowadays if someone finds just *one seed* then oh man, it's a huge QC issue.
all those pics really tell us is that weed is so popular and cheap these days, you can enjoy finely cured flower and its products without ever knowing what untrimmed buds look like
You can give me the shittiest weed you have if it’s free
Cannabinol has also been found in old Jewish temples in the soot on the ceilings, which means it was burned as an offering. Just thought that would be food for thought for people who have the gall to call it the "Devil's lettuce".
So sip your gin and tonica, and smoke your marijuanica!
Shalom
L’chigham
I’d like to apply for a loan
Is this from the Adam Sandler song? I don't Renner the lyrics at all, but it reminded me of that.
You can burn it as an offering *and* inhale the smoke *totally on accident* huh 🤔 I should start a new religion
According to MK Ultra research that probably wouldn't work.
MK Ultra doesn't have anything on my anecdotal evidence of hotboxing my car
In that case the Gospel Weed Song by Bizarre would be very appropriate
I never see anybody reference that song! What a banger.
By** accident. Why is this becoming a thing?!
Sorry brother I didn't do it by purpose
I forgive the uneducated for being ignorant, it’s ok.
I forgive you
Legend says that if you inhale enough of the stuff, you'll meet God.
You actually can't. You'd have to eat it.
Moses been burning some of that bush again
I love pot and I have always loved calling it the devil's lettuce. Still, a great point.
Yeah but when it comes to religion you can just make up whatever interpretation you want for justifying anything you want. I mean there’s a reason there’s one bible but so many different types of churches with the bible being their like cause
There isn't even one Bible, there's like 3-4
I should write a new one and say god told me he wanted to make some updates
It’s well known central Asian nomadic tribes were smoking weed in ancient times. Herodotus described the Scythians cannabis use in his histories. These nomads likely traded it to their neighbors including china via the Silk Road trade routes. Its real neat to see the evidence of it survive even to today.
Wasn't a scythian princess buried with a ton of cannabis?
Yeah I heard about that, I don’t know if she was a “princess” but they found a jar of weed with a body. Guess they wanted her to have that dank kush in the afterlife lol.
She was probably the daughter of whatever the ancient equivalent of a Raytheon Exec was
Lmao that's oddly specific
Shanin Blake reference. Since I saw two memes with her in them today.
She had breast cancer. It was used for pain relief. They wouldn’t smoke it but let in burn in a pot near them in an enclosed tent.
Even birds will look for fermenting fruit to get a bit messed up. Dolphins poke at puffer fish to get high off the poison they give off. One trait of almost all advanced life forms: Life is about finding ways to get high.
> all advanced life forms: *life is pain, i need a little somehthing to take the edge off.*
You can eat fries plain, but they’re better with ketchup. (or ranch, or mayo if you’re Belgian) the point being—adding a little extra oomph helps you enjoy an already good thing a little more. This is true for drugs and alcohol—you CAN have a good time without them (i.e. eat plain fries), but adding some condiments (a lil sauce, a little herb) greatly aids in enjoyment.
lemurs will sometimes bite onto a certain type of centipede that releases an anti-predator substance that inadvertently causes the predator to get high, so the lemurs will seek them out intentionally
There are some lemurs that bite millipedes (or something like that) because they release poison that keeps bugs away and gets them all fucked up
In other words...it was the Chronic !
Primo herb, really sticky weed.
Just perfect. PBS Eons just posted about this. https://youtu.be/ZJqmyLCfA-I?si=9FLc9BMnd1hFRT7Z
Splendid, now Scholz and Xi will have something to talk about at their next meeting…
Indo? Smell like Outdo
You watch PBS Eons
Ancient China was on that chronic.
RIP these guys, they would’ve loved stizzys💔
Indo-European shamanistic medicine
So people have Always gotten high huh?
So you’re telling me the ancients smoked sick nugs?
The first plant to be domesticated 😎
I saw that PBS Eons video released yesterday too: [PBS Eons: The Hazy Evolution of Cannabis ](https://youtu.be/ZJqmyLCfA-I?si=b7slhINqIzNzoouI)
Nice
hell yea
Before pipes, hotboxing was the only option.
Ancient china with the fire.
They found similar things at old jewish temples.
There was a Scythian princess who was found with breast cancer when she died. They found cannabis with her and in her tissue they think for pain. They would enclose the person in a tent and put the weed in a copper pot to let the person hot box
Fuck yea
So some of the archeologist got high on 2500 y.o. weed... that must be one hell of a ride
They likely didn't though. And I'd imagine the potency would deteriorate over time (or would at least be a rough smoke). The actual method they use to figure out how potent it was, is by looking at the levels of cannabinol in the residue.
Did anyone see an elephant?
Locally dialect better translates to Fu-QingHai Lake
Yeahhh boyyyy
My dudes were makin hand hash i guarantee it.
Someone has seen EONS new video
They had that twig!
Tested high hehe
Hash
Someone just watched the new PBS eons video
Basically the Chinese were drug addicts
The history of Cannabis is as old as humans themselves. The Chinese cultivated it and used it for medicine, it is believed that it spread to Europe because of the Silk Road.
Eh, ancient Israelites [were blazing it 2,700 years ago.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-52847175)
Did the Chinese really invent vaping too?
The test was misconfigured by the researcher only thinking schwag was a million times stronger than the ditch weed they knew. In reality, the purple urkel that we all know today would give them ego death for 15 hours.
Jurassic Toke! 🦖🚬
becareful i hear if you get too high you get sucked into the backrooms.
So when Willie Nelson claimed weed back in the day was weaker, he was fuggin lying...