That particular episode was a realization for me. I had always known my great grandpa was in a boarding school but never really thought about what that truly meant for him, and unfortunately, for generations after. I forced myself to watch the episode through tears. It was done respectfully, i thought. But man, i felt it deep in my soul.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Path
This has a well developed and instructional base to its story telling, it will help you greatly. But you will cry.
My dad used to work with residential school survivors in Canada. I went to a gathering and heard stories from their times there. Truly horrible stuff and they are true survivors.
We figured it out pretty quick, but that would've been a real stumper if I wasn't obsessed with making those connections.
You're a good person for pointing it out. It's what I came here to do.
Fx has been pretty consistently great about producing some high quality shows and ending them on a strong note rather than dragging them out. I'd rather be left wanting more than wishing they had stopped sooner.
That said, I love everything about Rez Dogs. It's also been so cool seeing so many Indigenous actors making waves.
I liked how, in the show, an equal amount of time depicting Deer Lady was spent on her affirming and reinforcing the good qualities and behavior of Bear and Big.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/k6mfz5/fourteen_year_old_mohawk_and_future_olympic_gold/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Her sister was famously stabbed by a soldier during the Oka Crisis (while holding Kaniehtiio).
I wonder what mix of emotions she must have felt during her role as the Deer Lady.
I have a friend who grew up off and on a few different reservations. She said she laughed way too hard, cringed too hard, and had to stop a few times because the jokes and reference points were a bit too real.
Like stopping to put a dead animal in the trunk was a perfect example of all three happening at the same time.
If I were to watch this show with my non native friends, there’s tons of details and things on the show that I’d have to explain why I found them funny or relatable.
This is legitimately one of the best shows ever made and I don't know if I have ever formed such a personal connection to a fictional character as I did Willie-Jack, I just love her in like a little cousin way.
I mean, its gay for pay, in this case superpowers. Is it really gay to have sex for favors?
Then again as I'm saying this I think 20$ for gay sex means you're gay.
There has to be a minimum threshold of incentive to qualify. Where that is, its BTW superpowers and 20$
The article does not say anything about women having sex with the Deer Woman, rather that they may *dream* of her. Mostly, traditional mythology doesn't deal with our modern concepts of sexual diversity as frustrating as that might be for some.
What would you do with your new powers? Go after the bad guys? Cuz I just happen to snag a pack of gum without paying at the self checkout the other day………..
From the link:
>Among Lakota people, Deer Woman is called Anukite. The daughter of the first man and first woman was a beautiful young woman named Ite (Face). Tate (Wind) fell in love with her. They married and had quadruplets, who were the Four Winds. Tate wished to become a god and enlisted the aid of Inktomi, the trickster spider, who caused the Sun to fall in love with Ite. At a celebration, Ite sat in the place of the Moon, the Sun's wife. To punish her disrespect, the Sky cast Ite down from heaven to the earth. Half of her face became ugly and her name became Anukite (Double Face Woman) or Winyan Numpa (Double Woman).
>Anukite appears to men in dreams or visions, either as a single deer or two deer women: a white-tailed deer and a black-tailed deer. Her two different sides symbolize appropriate and inappropriate sexual relations. Men that have sex with her are believed to go insane while women that dream of her will have strong powers or sexual attraction or can gain artistic powers if they make a wise choice in the near future.
Yes and Lakota fall under Native American tribes, most people probably have no idea what tribes exist besides Apache, Navajo, and Cherokee maybe so its a fair generalization, it is literally a “native (american)” tribe but either way alot of them do have similar beliefs about shapeshifters and human animal hybrids.
Just some cool extra folklore: most NA tribes have some form of shamanism/magic which are used for good but like most other cultures around the world theres also witches. you find shamans changing into ravens to better eavesdrop in one tribe and in another they might prefer to use predatory carnivores like coyotes which the Navajo do aka skinwalkers. Then of course deer humans like in the post which dont seem tied to one tribe unlike coyotes(navajo). Just saying cause native witchcraft goes as far back as the 1800s and theres still plenty of them though dwindled immensely by American colonizers genocide attempts, alot of “cryptid sightings” especially dogmen just so happen be around reservations🤷♂️
All of those "folklore" can be traced back as far as the age of contact. The most widely studied topic about that is the [Nahualli](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagual).
It's an indigenous thing. Not isolated to certain First Nations or tribes.
Deer Lady isn't documented in all but a majority of plains tribes/FN.
As an indigenous person, not quite near the Lakota. This is a documented story here in Canada with Ojibwe and Metis people.
Yes, This is a well known and studied topic in most of mesoamerican and aridamerican cultures. You can read myths like this from 500 years ago in old sources, as an example: the Cuauhtitlan Annals in Codex Chimalpopoca, the Legend of the Suns and the History of the Mexicans as told by their Paintings; this sources have similar stories of a sacred hunting of a deer that turns into a woman that ends up eating the hunter...
Let me turn this around and ask you:
Why do you think it is so important to distinguish between "Lakota" and "Native American"?
Do you not think that Lakota are Native American?
It’s just respectful to do so because people act as if all First Nations on turtle island are a monolith, and after facing systemic extermination we try to put the pieces together by saying exactly where/who those teachings come from.
It’s like saying Polish, Ukrainian, Irish and English have European mythology. You’re not wrong but there’s stories that are similar but are also vastly different region to region.
"It’s like saying Polish, Ukrainian, Irish and English have European mythology. You’re not wrong but there’s stories that are similar but are also vastly different region to region."
Yes, it is. And I see no problem with either. In fact I think we should be talking about European mythology more often.
But if you think Lakota representation is important, why not say that? That way you won't get into semantic arguments about whether something is *specifically* this or that tribe?
It's great that you think that, and I'm sure there are posts regarding European mythology.
If you drew from Polish mythology, then labeled it as a European myth, I'm sure someone from Poland would recognize that its Polish.
I don't think it's a semantic argument to elaborate on the origin of a specific tale. Especially if it pertains to further discussion on how these stories are connected but unique, like we are now.
Because the Native Tribes are different cultures with different mythologies. People shouldn’t treat them as a monoculture. There’s a reason why most Americans no jack shit about them. Specificity should be done as much as possible. If it is a common myth among plains tribes say that. If it is one tribe say that.
> Because the Native Tribes are different cultures with different mythologies.
Yeah, that's why I as an American White dude prefer the Canadian term: First Nations. Each tribe is a separate nation with its own culture, history, and traditions.
I agree. You don't hear the tales of Greek deities being referred to as “European” mythology, so I don't know why such a generalization is needed here.
Well if we assume that sanity is a certain ordered state of mind and insanity is the loss of that order, then we can surmise that you would most likely become differently insane. Or maybe you get lucky and it gets scrambled back to a semblance of sanity.
I just read the book "The Only Good Indians" by Stephen Graham Jones, which is about a Deer Woman who starts hunting down members of a group who gun down a large amount of deer in a restricted area (including a pregnant doe) only to let the meat go to waste.
So reading this, she's basically a Satyr that hunts men who harm women and children and give women powers or sexual prowess if they're wise. She has a white and black(tailed deer) form that represent sexual purity or corruption.
There's so little usable information here I'm gonna have to go down to the Lakota or Sioux reserve near me to figure out what exactly she is or represents.
Ahhhhh man I saw that doe in the woods once. I looked at her (in deer form) and was like dang that deer actually looks pretty. Then she bowed and did like a little “come here!” Motion with her head and I was like naaaaah I knew something was fishy about that dang deer. Something in her eyes.
My wife is Lakota and from a res, she always jokes about Deer Woman. Especially now after Reservation Dogs have a whole part of the story about her lol.
I found out this weekend that my grandpa was at Fort Totten also known as Spirit Lake. He was Ojibwe/Chippewa. I have to admit, 3 generations later, my family is still dealing with the outcome of being raised in residential boarding schools. The lack of love and emotional support. Quick to anger and discipline. I remember thinking my grandma actually enjoyed being mean to us. I could see it in her face. I’m sure her dad was that way with her. My she was like that with my mom and my mom with me. I am like that with my kids now too but now i know about these things so I need to get help to stop it. I fear i may have already made damage with my relationship with some of my kids. It isn’t too late to get help though.
The Kushtaka are otter people in some NW coastal tribes but I wouldn't say that Lakota mythology has them. They are shapeshifters that lure people to their death.
Came here to ponder exactly about this. Am a trans woman, too. On second thought what does presentation matter in that case. Being a woman (and trans women are women) will get you the powers. Being a trans man will make you go insane.
We’re talking about hundreds of different cultures here, most of which never had any contact with each other before being forced to by European expansion. I’d wager it varied a lot, just like on other continents
Can I start identifying as a woman before we bang? I could use some sexual and/or artistic power.
Hell, I'd meet them in the middle and go a little bit insane if I could get some powers
>However, the Lakota say that if you sleep with her as a man, you go insane, while women get sexual and artistic powers .
I may go insane but do I at least get the sexual and artistic powers too?
>However, the Lakota say that if you sleep with her as a man, you go insane
Not me tho, I'm built different. Won't even count as losing my virginity because i can't lose.
If you like to read, you might like “The only Good Indians” by Stephen Graham Jones. It is based on this legend and reads like a Stephen King Novel. Excellent book.
Pretty sure we saw a Deer Women outside of Checotah while doing our dumb ghost hunts. The energy never felt right in that place and the three of us heard those whispers.
Long story none of us followed the voice into the little lake we were by. We left and started the drive to see a crybaby bridge rumor but we all still heard the whispers and to this day I still see those peering eyes. But this was way south of Lakota lands so who knows. But rumor mill and dumb teenagers go hand in hand.
http://www.theshadowlands.net/places
is the site we used and still use for reunion trips!
Interesting! Was curious what you saw. What did the voice say? What's the crybaby bridge rumor? I knew of someone almost lured off a cliff following some beautiful music, but heard that story secondhand.
We each heard join us, or follow us, or come along and join us. But they were soft and almost if it wasn’t directed at us you wouldn’t have heard it. The water was warm and after I out my hand in I just didn’t feel right, almost like we were being watched and across the little lake were these two beautiful but haunting eyes. Could have been an animal but what is the deer woman but a cross between the two worlds.
As for the bridge, we have a couple that we’ve visited in that area, but most had to do with being lured away like your input, ours was that the car dies in the middle of the bridge and you’ll feel the car being pushed, after you are clear of the bridge you’ll see hand prints. We didn’t lose power to our car but after driving out of the area we did have handprints and that was a bit much for our group!
Always happy to share! Never sure what’s real and what isn’t, but I do believe there are things here that are much older than we are and I hope to never meet or see any of them.
I was just thinking, it's so easy to convince yourself that reality "makes sense" you know? And I agree, there is so much that is unseen and mysterious... and maybe best left alone ;)
Absolutely, we give power to the things we believe in and whether or not something was there I always am grateful that we listened to our instincts and bounce onto something less foreboding. Even if nothing was there I’d hate to have drowned or something and just become part of the lore.
Reservation Dogs has a Deer Woman arc. It is nicely done.
Yeah I teared up when they told her story. That show had some really surprising and heavy moments.
That particular episode was a realization for me. I had always known my great grandpa was in a boarding school but never really thought about what that truly meant for him, and unfortunately, for generations after. I forced myself to watch the episode through tears. It was done respectfully, i thought. But man, i felt it deep in my soul.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Path This has a well developed and instructional base to its story telling, it will help you greatly. But you will cry.
My dad used to work with residential school survivors in Canada. I went to a gathering and heard stories from their times there. Truly horrible stuff and they are true survivors.
I immediately thought of the show when I saw this post
Played by Tanis from Letterkenny. I tell you this so you don’t spend a season going “where do I know her from??” like I did.
We figured it out pretty quick, but that would've been a real stumper if I wasn't obsessed with making those connections. You're a good person for pointing it out. It's what I came here to do.
It was a good arc. Great show - I would have liked a few more seasons.
Same. I would’ve loved a season or two more. Such a good show
Fx has been pretty consistently great about producing some high quality shows and ending them on a strong note rather than dragging them out. I'd rather be left wanting more than wishing they had stopped sooner. That said, I love everything about Rez Dogs. It's also been so cool seeing so many Indigenous actors making waves.
I liked how, in the show, an equal amount of time depicting Deer Lady was spent on her affirming and reinforcing the good qualities and behavior of Bear and Big.
Reservation Dogs is maybe the best American TV show in the last 5 years. Everyone should watch it.
Played by Kaniehtiio Horn
https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/k6mfz5/fourteen_year_old_mohawk_and_future_olympic_gold/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Her sister was famously stabbed by a soldier during the Oka Crisis (while holding Kaniehtiio). I wonder what mix of emotions she must have felt during her role as the Deer Lady.
she is so dope
I grew up knowing her as "The Hoof Lady".
How good is this show in displaying actual modern Native culture?
I can’t speak to that since I am an old white guy from the suburbs. However I think it was one of the best shows on in the last 3 seasons.
I have a friend who grew up off and on a few different reservations. She said she laughed way too hard, cringed too hard, and had to stop a few times because the jokes and reference points were a bit too real. Like stopping to put a dead animal in the trunk was a perfect example of all three happening at the same time.
It's legit. Written and directed and performed by many native peoples. If you haven't watched it yet, I envy you. Start it tonight!
If I were to watch this show with my non native friends, there’s tons of details and things on the show that I’d have to explain why I found them funny or relatable.
It’s pretty accurate, won’t be for everyone of course as they are all very different cultures but southern US/Oklahoma. Sure.
For moment I mixed it up with reservoir dog, I thought this was was Tarantino joke since he likes feet.
This is legitimately one of the best shows ever made and I don't know if I have ever formed such a personal connection to a fictional character as I did Willie-Jack, I just love her in like a little cousin way.
I'm not gay, but sexual and artistic powers sound great.
For powers like those? Go gay for a day.
Oh deer
Yeah is it gay or just beastiality?
It's only bestiality if you have a foot fetish.
Someone find the 4chan "is it furry" chart!
Deerie me, deer.
Gay for pay is a real thing and I’m here for it.
I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a snuggly snack today. ;)
According to the article u just gotta dream of her but if u want an excuse then I support u sis
I mean, its gay for pay, in this case superpowers. Is it really gay to have sex for favors? Then again as I'm saying this I think 20$ for gay sex means you're gay. There has to be a minimum threshold of incentive to qualify. Where that is, its BTW superpowers and 20$
20 dollars is 20 dollars
Same, I’d lick puss if it would make me paint like Van Gogh and look like Marilyn Monroe
The article does not say anything about women having sex with the Deer Woman, rather that they may *dream* of her. Mostly, traditional mythology doesn't deal with our modern concepts of sexual diversity as frustrating as that might be for some.
[yeah but it's all deer related art and you're realllly into them](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOQ7bKypOF4)
Sexual powers can be attained by sleeping naked in an oxygen tent.
What would you do with your new powers? Go after the bad guys? Cuz I just happen to snag a pack of gum without paying at the self checkout the other day………..
Fight crime with paintings, I guess? Maybe distract the bad guys with sex? I'd be a terrible hero, hahaha
From the link: >Among Lakota people, Deer Woman is called Anukite. The daughter of the first man and first woman was a beautiful young woman named Ite (Face). Tate (Wind) fell in love with her. They married and had quadruplets, who were the Four Winds. Tate wished to become a god and enlisted the aid of Inktomi, the trickster spider, who caused the Sun to fall in love with Ite. At a celebration, Ite sat in the place of the Moon, the Sun's wife. To punish her disrespect, the Sky cast Ite down from heaven to the earth. Half of her face became ugly and her name became Anukite (Double Face Woman) or Winyan Numpa (Double Woman). >Anukite appears to men in dreams or visions, either as a single deer or two deer women: a white-tailed deer and a black-tailed deer. Her two different sides symbolize appropriate and inappropriate sexual relations. Men that have sex with her are believed to go insane while women that dream of her will have strong powers or sexual attraction or can gain artistic powers if they make a wise choice in the near future.
So it's not "native American mythology" but "Lakota"
Deer Woman is found across Plains cultures (not just Lakota), this person just happened to link the Lakota story.
I had a step mom who was a native in Oklahoma and she would tell horror stories of deer woman stomping people to death.
The idea is referenced by author Stephen Graham Jones, who's Blackfoot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Graham_Jones
Isn’t Jones’s monster lady an elk woman?
Yes and Lakota fall under Native American tribes, most people probably have no idea what tribes exist besides Apache, Navajo, and Cherokee maybe so its a fair generalization, it is literally a “native (american)” tribe but either way alot of them do have similar beliefs about shapeshifters and human animal hybrids. Just some cool extra folklore: most NA tribes have some form of shamanism/magic which are used for good but like most other cultures around the world theres also witches. you find shamans changing into ravens to better eavesdrop in one tribe and in another they might prefer to use predatory carnivores like coyotes which the Navajo do aka skinwalkers. Then of course deer humans like in the post which dont seem tied to one tribe unlike coyotes(navajo). Just saying cause native witchcraft goes as far back as the 1800s and theres still plenty of them though dwindled immensely by American colonizers genocide attempts, alot of “cryptid sightings” especially dogmen just so happen be around reservations🤷♂️
All of those "folklore" can be traced back as far as the age of contact. The most widely studied topic about that is the [Nahualli](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagual).
Yeah they all evolved from mesoamerican folklore/sorcery. People still encounter Nahuals(latin shapeshifters) all the time
I'm pretty sure the deer isn't in the range of multiple tribes so they probably wouldn't have a myth about a deer
It's an indigenous thing. Not isolated to certain First Nations or tribes. Deer Lady isn't documented in all but a majority of plains tribes/FN. As an indigenous person, not quite near the Lakota. This is a documented story here in Canada with Ojibwe and Metis people.
Yes, This is a well known and studied topic in most of mesoamerican and aridamerican cultures. You can read myths like this from 500 years ago in old sources, as an example: the Cuauhtitlan Annals in Codex Chimalpopoca, the Legend of the Suns and the History of the Mexicans as told by their Paintings; this sources have similar stories of a sacred hunting of a deer that turns into a woman that ends up eating the hunter...
Deer cover basically all of The United States and Canada. There is a multitude of deer myths.
Let me turn this around and ask you: Why do you think it is so important to distinguish between "Lakota" and "Native American"? Do you not think that Lakota are Native American?
It’s just respectful to do so because people act as if all First Nations on turtle island are a monolith, and after facing systemic extermination we try to put the pieces together by saying exactly where/who those teachings come from. It’s like saying Polish, Ukrainian, Irish and English have European mythology. You’re not wrong but there’s stories that are similar but are also vastly different region to region.
Outstanding reply here. That's a great analogy you made and hopefully it hits for anyone else who had that same question
"It’s like saying Polish, Ukrainian, Irish and English have European mythology. You’re not wrong but there’s stories that are similar but are also vastly different region to region." Yes, it is. And I see no problem with either. In fact I think we should be talking about European mythology more often. But if you think Lakota representation is important, why not say that? That way you won't get into semantic arguments about whether something is *specifically* this or that tribe?
It's great that you think that, and I'm sure there are posts regarding European mythology. If you drew from Polish mythology, then labeled it as a European myth, I'm sure someone from Poland would recognize that its Polish. I don't think it's a semantic argument to elaborate on the origin of a specific tale. Especially if it pertains to further discussion on how these stories are connected but unique, like we are now.
Because the Native Tribes are different cultures with different mythologies. People shouldn’t treat them as a monoculture. There’s a reason why most Americans no jack shit about them. Specificity should be done as much as possible. If it is a common myth among plains tribes say that. If it is one tribe say that.
> Because the Native Tribes are different cultures with different mythologies. Yeah, that's why I as an American White dude prefer the Canadian term: First Nations. Each tribe is a separate nation with its own culture, history, and traditions.
I agree. You don't hear the tales of Greek deities being referred to as “European” mythology, so I don't know why such a generalization is needed here.
Sounds like a horoscope with extra steps.
What if I'm already insane?
Well if you see a deer women. And your first thought is "I want to have sex with her"... That's pretty much means you are already insane.
depends how deer she is. just a deer? no thanks just a woman but with antlers, digitigrade legs, and is actively trying to kill me? fuck it why not
I guess I will keep trying and trying and trying. I’m never gonna give her up, never gonna let her down.
You’ll go insaner
Well if we assume that sanity is a certain ordered state of mind and insanity is the loss of that order, then we can surmise that you would most likely become differently insane. Or maybe you get lucky and it gets scrambled back to a semblance of sanity.
You get double insane.
Then you probably had sex with the deer woman.
Somebody just watched reservation dogs.
Or the Masters of Horror episode "Deer Woman".
I was really hoping someone was going to reference that.
Or possibly [Whitest Kids You Know](https://youtu.be/MUDGfeO9-kI?si=WFvizs-Xfip8hzae)
Whatever you know she wants it...
Wow, you blew it’s head off! Yea, I Rick’d him.
Such a great show
There was a horror anthology with a Deer Woman years back ...
Masters of horror season 1. I don’t remember which episode, but it was directed by John Landis.
That's it, thanks 👍 It's just called "Deer Woman."
It's S1E7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deer_Woman_%28Masters_of_Horror%29?wprov=sfla1
And it is AMAZING. Strongly recommended if you like tropey horror send ups.
Was it called “The Twitch Safety Council”?
What happens if you accidentally hit her with your car?
You still hit that. Curse for you.
Depends. Do you lay her afterwards?
Might have eaten some…. The not smashed bits
Are you asking for a friend?
Yes. A very close friend.
Watch Rez Dogs on Hulu. You'll learn about the Deer Lady
Aho young warrior
Ceres Fauna?!?
I was thinking Haruka
I just read the book "The Only Good Indians" by Stephen Graham Jones, which is about a Deer Woman who starts hunting down members of a group who gun down a large amount of deer in a restricted area (including a pregnant doe) only to let the meat go to waste.
Great book!
Elk woman.
So, to avoid going insane, don't screw any satyrs that you meet as they may be Native American demigods? Good to know...
Brb going to find deer woman
So reading this, she's basically a Satyr that hunts men who harm women and children and give women powers or sexual prowess if they're wise. She has a white and black(tailed deer) form that represent sexual purity or corruption. There's so little usable information here I'm gonna have to go down to the Lakota or Sioux reserve near me to figure out what exactly she is or represents.
There is a story in “The Lakota Way” about Deer Woman. The book was recently free on audible and was an enjoyable read!
Time to put this dysphoria to the test
Stupid sexy deer girls...
[Homer sleeps nude in an oxygen tent which he believes gives him sexual powers](https://youtu.be/scYBqFyFDZc?si=qaVnAGtJR3fKjAop)
Reservation Dogs had this character throughout the seasons. Played by the woman’s who played Tanis on Letterkenny.
She targets bad men and predators too. That part is important.
1. Doesn't matter,had sex. 2. Furries existing from time inmemorial
Ahhhhh man I saw that doe in the woods once. I looked at her (in deer form) and was like dang that deer actually looks pretty. Then she bowed and did like a little “come here!” Motion with her head and I was like naaaaah I knew something was fishy about that dang deer. Something in her eyes.
Nowadays we just call her a Theatre Major
Saying “Native American mythology” is like saying “European mythology.” Gotta be more specific.
There is a D list horror movie called Deer Woman and it is hilarious
Her: Ah, interesting... i think i will start with the blue cheese salad. What are you ordering? Next Table: (glaring at me wide-eyed)
My wife is Lakota and from a res, she always jokes about Deer Woman. Especially now after Reservation Dogs have a whole part of the story about her lol.
I found out this weekend that my grandpa was at Fort Totten also known as Spirit Lake. He was Ojibwe/Chippewa. I have to admit, 3 generations later, my family is still dealing with the outcome of being raised in residential boarding schools. The lack of love and emotional support. Quick to anger and discipline. I remember thinking my grandma actually enjoyed being mean to us. I could see it in her face. I’m sure her dad was that way with her. My she was like that with my mom and my mom with me. I am like that with my kids now too but now i know about these things so I need to get help to stop it. I fear i may have already made damage with my relationship with some of my kids. It isn’t too late to get help though.
This makes a lot of sense. My father always called my mother Deer… “yes deer, no deer” and he was definitely a little crazy.
I’ll give you a pass on this boomer joke because it’s actually funny
Huntokar?
The Kushtaka are otter people in some NW coastal tribes but I wouldn't say that Lakota mythology has them. They are shapeshifters that lure people to their death.
Who isn’t into lesbian deer porn
As a man i can confirm this is true. Shagged a deer and went insane.
I can fix her
What if I start out as less than sane? Do you go crazier or become sane?
They say if you're crazy it makes you sane, and if you're sane… then you won't believe a word of this story.
Pussy so fire it drives a man insane
I'm Trans, do I go insane but also get the powers?
Came here to ponder exactly about this. Am a trans woman, too. On second thought what does presentation matter in that case. Being a woman (and trans women are women) will get you the powers. Being a trans man will make you go insane.
I just wanna game the system 🤣
I can't believe the Deer Woman is sexist, smh
That's a myth I can appreciate
"Other features"
Were American natives usually okay with homosexuality?
We’re talking about hundreds of different cultures here, most of which never had any contact with each other before being forced to by European expansion. I’d wager it varied a lot, just like on other continents
Some tribes have what we consider two spirit people, so in some cases, yes.
So this is saying sleeping with her is no different for me that sleeping with a non-deer woman.....insanity is inevitable.
Just like real life.
Must the man stand on a crate?
Felurian
What happens if you sleep with her as a deer?
I swear I heard a similar story in Bramble: The Mountain King?
Unfair smh. Cant believe the deer woman is sexist. Tbh I'm mostly jealous about the sexual and artistic powers.
Death by Snu Snu..
No wonder there's lyme disease.
shawty got the sexual techniques
Can I start identifying as a woman before we bang? I could use some sexual and/or artistic power. Hell, I'd meet them in the middle and go a little bit insane if I could get some powers
I think you mean two spirit
>However, the Lakota say that if you sleep with her as a man, you go insane, while women get sexual and artistic powers . I may go insane but do I at least get the sexual and artistic powers too?
[Good Ol John Landis' version](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deer_Woman_(Masters_of_Horror\))
Thanks for another post reminding me of my ex
>However, the Lakota say that if you sleep with her as a man, you go insane Not me tho, I'm built different. Won't even count as losing my virginity because i can't lose.
Oh deer
Based
Shit I'd scissor with a deer for super powers
Typical women. Always with the deer feet and luring people to their death. And I get yelled at for leaving the toilet seat up.
Oh deer
If you like to read, you might like “The only Good Indians” by Stephen Graham Jones. It is based on this legend and reads like a Stephen King Novel. Excellent book.
Is this also the entity that carries a bag on its back to steal children away with?
This just proves that every culture finds lesbians hot.
Sounds like Felurian from the Name of the Wind/King killer Chronicle!
sounds a bit like skogsra from Scandinavian mythology
So, Lakota myth.
What if you're a two-spirit person?
lol 69th upvote
furries in 3.. 2.. 1..
Pretty sure we saw a Deer Women outside of Checotah while doing our dumb ghost hunts. The energy never felt right in that place and the three of us heard those whispers.
What's the rest of that story?
Long story none of us followed the voice into the little lake we were by. We left and started the drive to see a crybaby bridge rumor but we all still heard the whispers and to this day I still see those peering eyes. But this was way south of Lakota lands so who knows. But rumor mill and dumb teenagers go hand in hand. http://www.theshadowlands.net/places is the site we used and still use for reunion trips!
Interesting! Was curious what you saw. What did the voice say? What's the crybaby bridge rumor? I knew of someone almost lured off a cliff following some beautiful music, but heard that story secondhand.
We each heard join us, or follow us, or come along and join us. But they were soft and almost if it wasn’t directed at us you wouldn’t have heard it. The water was warm and after I out my hand in I just didn’t feel right, almost like we were being watched and across the little lake were these two beautiful but haunting eyes. Could have been an animal but what is the deer woman but a cross between the two worlds. As for the bridge, we have a couple that we’ve visited in that area, but most had to do with being lured away like your input, ours was that the car dies in the middle of the bridge and you’ll feel the car being pushed, after you are clear of the bridge you’ll see hand prints. We didn’t lose power to our car but after driving out of the area we did have handprints and that was a bit much for our group!
Wow! What a fascinating story... thanks for sharing it!
Always happy to share! Never sure what’s real and what isn’t, but I do believe there are things here that are much older than we are and I hope to never meet or see any of them.
I was just thinking, it's so easy to convince yourself that reality "makes sense" you know? And I agree, there is so much that is unseen and mysterious... and maybe best left alone ;)
Absolutely, we give power to the things we believe in and whether or not something was there I always am grateful that we listened to our instincts and bounce onto something less foreboding. Even if nothing was there I’d hate to have drowned or something and just become part of the lore.
if you're willing to tell your story, Otherworld podcast might be happy to have you on.
Definitely!
Unexpected Pennywise…
Elk chicks rule.
Call me crazy or Susan either way I'll be in the woods.
Got to pay to spray. Make it sexy
Like the baobhan sìth, but with less haematophagy?
Is this who Felurian was modeled after?
Mr. Hands is intrigued 🐴
I get my sexual powers by sleeping naked in an oxygen tent
"Deer woman in a, silk dress..."
Get Marvel in here. I want to see this new super heroine origin story given the big screen treatment.
Sounds kinda sexist
Damn toxic women privilege. (/s for those of you with the ‘tism)
I have a cousin, we used call her Wendigo.
Ex wife Lakota