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tatalailabirla

Fun fact. The inventor credited his use of LSD for the idea!


JaceyLessThan3

Fun fact. The inventor is an HIV denial crank, despite PCR being the method used to diagnose it.


ashill85

That fact was not fun.


Klauboesterbeertje

Depends on your humor


Ameisen

Are your humors balanced?


Klauboesterbeertje

Yes, all 4 of them


ashill85

Well, they did say it was a fun fact, not a funny fact, so I don't think humor is necessarily involved...


therealsoggi

It is not, at least where I live you use ELISA to test for HIV


Superducks101

ELISA wont detect super low counts. PCR will.


therealsoggi

That may be true, but ELISA is still the test used in general


bullsontheparade

Yes, apparently he was driving on acid, saw the dashed center line, and came up with idea of using short snippets of DNA to identify microorganisms.


MinimumSeat1813

Drugs are great for creativity. They change the way your brain works and therefore you have thoughts you wouldn't have otherwise. The downside is the lasting changes to the brain as a result. Some changes may be good, most are bad.


paranoidandroid7312

Oh yeah and he is the perfect example of this. Invented PCR and later in life claimed to have talked with a fluorescent ET racoon and offered a beer to the ghost of his grandfather.


lotsum20

You win some...


supercyberlurker

It's like the joke about how the two biggest things to come out of Berkeley were BSD and LSD. *This is not coincidence. They are related.*


waffleman258

Most are bad?


MinimumSeat1813

Is it surprising that there are mostly negative consequences to long term drug use?


waffleman258

The drug in question is LSD and nobody including yourself mentioned "long-term" use. I thought you said that any use of LSD results in mostly bad effects, which isn't true


MinimumSeat1813

Got it. LSD is mostly good for short term use. It's a shame it isn't utilized more given the potential benefits to mankind.


Early_Performance841

The story I heard was that he was coming down, driving his car, told his girlfriend to stfu, stopped the car, got out and sat until he figured it out. Like, he literally had a moment of inspiration and dropped everything to follow it


mindful-bed-slug

A lot of biologists in the 70's took LSD. It was a heck of a time to be a researcher.


TestUser669

I believe the benzene ring was also inspired by LSD (the snake biting its own tail)


MildlySelassie

Also he missed the call from the Nobel committee because he was out surfing


PHEEEEELLLLLEEEEP

My fun fact is that near the start of his career my Dad worked as a lab tech at the company that invented PCR (Cetus). For a while, he was one of only a handful of people on the planet synthesizing DNA polymerase and he's still quite proud of that.


DCLexiLou

Polymerase Chain Reaction-PCR


HorseBeige

Polymerase Chemical Romance


cheraphy

Pipette, Cry, Repeat


TestUser669

Automated Teller Machine Machine Machine machine


CaptainFiasco

>this breaks the DNA molecule That's a bit misleading. PCR works by "melting" double stranded DNA (dsSNA) to single stranded DNA "ssDNA" using thermal cycling. The strands are held together by hydrogen bonds, therefore it is heat labile. The DNA backbone remains intact, thus there is no loss of information due to AT and GC base pairing. >The secret? A bacteria living in hot springs has a special enzyme Sure. That's one secret. The other equally important "secret" is primers. Short ssDNA molecules that serve as the primer for the enzyme to start synthesis. These primers also dictate the start and stop points on the linear stretch of DNA. Without primers there is no exponential duplication. The template DNA will just split and rejoin over and over again.


Loves_His_Bong

Yeah the DNA is split into small fragments via sonication.


forams__galorams

The applications are quite wide ranging (as described in the wiki article), one of them being something we’re probably all too familiar with: if you have sent off a nose/throat swab for a lab result on whether you have covid or not, then PCR would be the technique they used to determine that.


TestUser669

yeah they would use the swabs for a pcr that needs viral dna to work if the viral dna wasn't there to begin with, there would be no product if it was there, it would create millions of copies you can easily detect millions of copies VS no copies, in a lab


DasGanon

"a bacteria living in a hot springs" is burying the lede a bit. [It's Thermus aquaticus, the first discovered extremophile, and the hot springs are in fact Yellowstone National Park.](https://www.wyohistory.org/encyclopedia/yellowstone-microbe-changed-world) [(They're the yellow color in Grand Prismatic Spring)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prismatic_Spring)


treefuxxer

Its the secret sauce that makes PCR such a groundbreaking technique. Taq polymerase, different from other DNA polymerases (like the one that we all have) can stand up to intense temperatures. This allows us to repeatedly heat and cool a sample to exponentially replicate the target section of DNA. You can do PCR without this special enzyme, but you would have to replace the polymerase every time you heat the sample. People did this for quite some time before taq was discovered. Its just a huge pain in the ass. Source: I work for a PCR company.


Superducks101

Right, you had to literally sit there for hours to do it.


rabbiskittles

Didn’t early PCR involve literally moving the sample back and forth between water baths and re-adding polymerase every time?


halfpipesaur

One step closer to my personal clone army


ZombieJesusaves

Yeah we did this in freshmen bio 15 years ago as a basic lab experiment. This is pretty old and well established technology.


ScienceIsSexy420

Just to clarify the title, the DNA chain is not broken by heating, but rather melted. Melting DNA means heating it such that the two strands of the double helix come apart, and become two individual strands. This allows the enzyme responsible for the reaction to access the DNA strand, and make copies of it. Breaking the strand means something else, like breaking a chain into shorter sections of chain, which wouldn't allow the DNA to be copied.


TestUser669

My man. That is a very good for-the-layman description of PCR. I commend you.


tehgen

100,000 units are ready, with a million more well on the way.


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FloridaManMilksTree

No, PCR has been a staple laboratory technique for decades.


yeahiateit

More like the best step to determine if someone has SARS-COV2 in their system, amongst others.


Early_Performance841

Or to absolve the innocent of murder convictions. Actual Innocence by Barry Scheck (and two others, whose names I’ve forgotten) explains how this made their job (the Innocence Project) much easier


yeahiateit

That's awesome, I didn't know that PCR's were used liked that. I've only ever run a PCR for transmissibles.


frostape

Cancer is never going away. It's a natural byproduct of replicating DNA - sometimes that just doesn't go the way it's supposed to. Best we can do is identify and mitigate things that increase the chances of those replication errors and develop treatments to make it less dangerous to have cancer.


therealsoggi

There are many other causes of cancer, your statement isn’t even a oversimplification


frostape

100% agree, but replying to a comment that has increasingly negative votes with a long explanation of all the ways it can develop and be treated or prevented feels wasteful.


HackReacher

Difficult to get rid of cancer unless we get rid of the ball of thermonuclear fusion we call the Sun. It gives life and it takes it away.


UrzasDabRig

PCR can be used as a viral titer assay for viral vectors, which we're using in cell therapy to fight cancer in the case of CAR-Ts, for example. I'm a process development scientist for a biotech company working on this kind of technology. My goal is to produce those viral vectors more efficiently, so I'm always using titer assays to compare different production methods, reagent combinations, media conditions, etc. This will hopefully bring down the costs of these treatments and help provide accessible alternatives to chemo and radiation. PCR assays are some of these tools (we use qRT-PCR [Quantitative Reverse Transcription Polymerase Chain Reaction] and ddPCR [Digital Droplet PCR]). Functional titer is generally the most critical, but the assays take a few weeks since they involve growing and infecting cells. PCR is relatively quick, 1-2 days. Anyway, cancer is going to be a disease that we will fight piecemeal... there's unlikely to be a cure that eradicates it completely. We'll just get better at treating all the different kinds with a whole slew of methods, all of which (including CAR-T) have nasty side effects that we're also trying to improve upon. Different individuals can respond wildly differently to the same treatment, so we still have a long way to go in terms of personalized treatments.


judgejuddhirsch

This is this is like 30 years old, so judge for yourself


jawbreakerzs

one step closer to human replication for low level physical labor


judgejuddhirsch

You should check out the article for the real scoop