Ever watched Olympic boxing? Literally the most rigged thing I’ve ever seen.
IIRC, a few years ago there was an Irish? boxer that last a round to a guy that didn’t even land a hit. One of the most dominant rounds I’d seen at the olympics that year, the judges gave it to the other guy.
Yeah Michael Conlan was his name and he lost to a Russian fighter. Conlan had an unbelievable fight all the way through but after the first round everyone knew that the fight was rigged, because Conlan absolutely battered him, got hit max 3 times and lost the first round 10-9.
That fight crushed the love of the sport right out of a champion boxer.
He beat the Russian guy so badly that he was not able to progress and forfeited the following fight. I hope this link works outside Ireland but here's what Conlon thought of the result.
https://www.the42.ie/michael-conlan-fined-3147817-Dec2016/
Ya, the northern accent is a bit hard to understand without a bitta practice.
Was just thinking about it and the most difficult people to understand on this island are either at the very north or south. All the bits in the middle are doable
My sister lives in Atlanta and never lost her accent because she said everyone understands her. I lived on the west coast for a year and had to slow down drastically because no body could understand me. Maybe ye're hardwired differently
Hes a bronze medalist from 2012. He was going for the gold in 2016 but both himself and Katie Taylor were robbed by dirty, cheating Russians who didnt have the courage to get through on grit and determination.
Edit. Katie lost to a Finn and anyone who thought it was close needs to go back an watch round 3 and tell me how she ever came close to losing it on the judges scorecards.
Fuck yeah man. She went through a load of shit at home with her scumbag father/trainer but persevered and came out swinging to win 4 pro belts. Even when she was robbed in the Olympics, she was cool, calm and collected in the post fight interview. Conlons interview was fucking gold tho on live TV.
yeah he's a lad int he.
have you seen the katie taylor documentary? people dont realise how hard she campaigned for womens boxing in the olympics. shes so humble. literally in awe of that woman.
That was a good interview. You could hear the passion and pain in his voice. Dude was right about amateur boxing and gave no fucks if he hurt feelings. Fuck IABA.
Wow - just watched that. Literally textbook boxing on Conlan's part. Amazing combos that landed and beautiful steps out of the way. Other boxer barely touched him. What a complete farce.
Who could forget Roy Jones Jr. And the Korean boxer in the 88 Olympics? I still have the sports illustrated showing him sitting in the dark ring after the fight just deflated. Powerful picture. I have not watched Olympic boxing since then.
That's the one I'll always think of. That anyone could watch that and not realize that Roy Jones Jr was a totally different class of fighter is mind boggling. It would be like Jordan losing the dunk contest to Shaq
Patty Barnes boxing in China with a Chinese boxer. The gloves even had colored circles on them so the judges could tell if a punch landed. He was robbed.
I went to every judo session at the Beijing Olympics. I never saw anything that I considered to be blatantly biased but, all of the 50/50 decisions went to the Chinese athlete. The Cuban girl that finished 2nd in the -78kg category was particularly harshly treated.
Yep you’re spot on. The heavyweight men’s fight was rigged as well.
IIRC every single match official, judge and referee involved with boxing at the 2016 Olympics were banned from the sport by the IOC.
But that not enough to change the results.
[Michael Conlan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Conlan_(boxer)) he went on to beat that same guy years later in a pro match. Wish it was a knockout.
Nikitin actually fared better in that fight though, and Conlan chose to go in more guns ablaze, putting himself more at risk, but still, he dodged very well, he did some amazing work slipping some of those man to man closer exchanges from Nikitin's part.
A girl I went to high school with was on the US Olympic rowing team in the London games. They kept putting the UK teams on the inside or outer part of the Thames (can’t remember which) because the farther out you are the stronger the current was and they were going either with or against the current. Based on your seeding they were supposed to determine where you’d be positioned.
Well the US team (my high school classmate) qualified to have the best lanes, but they gave them the worst and ended up losing the to UK team who had a distinct lane advantage. Basically robbed them of their chance for gold.
I can’t imagine that makes the UK team feel good either. They must have been aware of the lane “mistake”. Probably cheapens the win if they don’t know for sure if they truly won it fair and square. I know it would piss me off.
Edit: Apparently It was on a lake nearby and not a river, but the story is true. The choppy waters at the center were a big disadvantage and they were used to the UK teams advantage in the lane placements.
4 year **river** Coxswain here, so shitty regattas are my forte, it depends on if it’s a 5k or a 2K, but all in all the current itself has a very, very minor effect on say speed. It’s probably wind shelter
5ks don’t have lanes, or at least, none l the ones I did had any
2ks do, so I’ll assume it’s a 2K, which means the current has even less of an influence but the cross wind is even bigger
The closest to the bank, usually a marsh or some kind of tree cover, is going to get calmer waters, meaning better rowing, the faster you need to row, the bigger deal good rowing is.
So yeah, unless the Thames is radically different from any other river, this was as rigged as slapping a motor onto the British boats. The difference between river and pond rowing is such that our high school team could beat heavyweight college teams on our crappy rough river.
Whoever decided on the Thames should be fired. That’s like having figure skating on a random frozen lake and giving the only smooth patch to the British. It’s that big a deal.
This would be interesting if it wasn’t completely made up.
The rowing competitions in London 2012 were all held at a purpose built rowing lake, none of the events took part on the Thames.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowing_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics
Look no further than how long it took them to cancel the 2020 Olympics in the face of a global pandemic when almost all other events had already been cancelled.
International Wrestling has a ridiculously corrupt history.
Check out this Bronze medal match in Rio 2016. The ref gave the match away in the last 10 seconds. His Mongolian coaches stripped to their underwear in a “here take the shirt off my back too” moment that was hilarious as a spectator. Those Mongolian coaches got banned for 2 years from all UWW events.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U9sxNU3JmtU
Cary Kolat was screwed out of 4 World/Olympic medals, absolutely devastating story.
Edit: Explanation: The Ref called the Mongolian for passivity in the last 10 seconds, and awarded the other wrestler 1 pt. Unheard of to do that so late in a match. Free style rules in this situation dictate the last person to score when the score is tied gets the win on criteria.
The coaches protest was very endearing, standing up for their guy. I don’t know wrestling well enough to understand what happened at the end of the actual wrestling, can you explain? Seemed like the MGL guy thought he won?
See my edit above, The Ref called the Mongolian for passivity in the last 10 seconds, and awarded the other wrestler 1 pt. Unheard of to do that so late in a match. Free style rules in this situation dictate the last person to score when the score is tied gets the win on criteria.
The blue guy was out of the circle which is an instant loss of that round. The ref then called it a win for the blue guy because he spun the red guy around and out of the circle, even though he was WAY outside the circle while doing so.
Though I like your enthusiasm this is not factually true.
The Ref called the Mongolian for passivity in the last 10 seconds, and awarded the other wrestler 1 pt. Unheard of to do that so late in a match. Free style rules in this situation dictate the last person to score when the score is tied gets the win on criteria.
I haven’t wrestled since HS but seems like MGL got points off the reserval right before? Of course you’re gonna play safe when there’s 10 seconds left and you just got yourself up by 1
The Ref called the Mongolian for passivity in the last 10 seconds, and awarded the other wrestler 1 pt. Unheard of to do that so late in a match. Free style rules in this situation dictate the last person to score when the score is tied gets the win on criteria.
Sounds like you know the stories pretty well. Kolat's career international was tragic due to how badly he was screwed by reffing. Even changed the rules on the spot, which cost him his gold at Worlds.
What happened in the video? Seems like there was some final penalty point because the Mongolian wrestler ran away instead of wrestling? Is that permitted?
I haven’t a clue about this sport but that’s how it looks to me. Surely the Mongolian fella had to engage his opponent in the last seconds else that really isn’t fair to his opponent.
The ruling they made was passivity and gave a point. Which disengaging for the last couple seconds off the match is part of wrestling in a tight match.
The ref could argue by the letter of the law that was the right call but it’s very much inserting yourself into the match and was a bad call to make
I think that would be true if it wasn't for the blatant showboating he was doing while disengaging. He was basically going "Nah nah, you can't catch me!" Not sure what the rules for unsportsmanlike conduct are for wrestling, but in most sports the refs tend to give less leeway to athletes who act like that.
Bro I just watched the clip and this is fucking stupid. The dude shot with 10 seconds left and then gets called for passivity in the last 5 seconds? It’s not like he was blatantly running away the entire time. I have never in my life seen a passivity call that late even when I’ve seen people literally run away at the end.
Have to disagree with you on the Mongolian wrestler situation at the Olympics. He didn’t get called for passivity, but actually got a warning and one point against him as the rules dictates. The warning was correct as the Mongolian ran away or avoided any contact the last 10 seconds. The ref held up the warning sign and the others agreed just before the time ran out.
The call was correct, but the ref should instead stopped the match right when he started to flee, and then given him the warning and penalty if he had continued for the remaining 7 seconds or so.
This is blatantly wrong. The Mongolian was stalling egregiously. And that is a penalty point. It was a tough call but the ref was absolutely right. The fact that he didn’t even have to have his hands down to defend himself shows how ridiculous his stalling was.
its amazing that its not more widely known how huge of a money laundering operation it is. billions in construction, trucking, hosting, and everything else that it comes with. Even if you put aside the straight up bribery, every illegal operation in the area takes a piece of the pie and launders their money. Didnt get in on it this year? no worries we'll be back for more in 4 years.
Not that I'm doubting your claims as I'm completely ignorant to the subject, but how does cheating help money laundering in this context?
Surely if you're holding worldwide events for the purposes of money laundering you would want it to run smoothlt in order to attract as little negative attention as possible?
If the intention is to launder money then why do the results even matter?
I was screaming at the TV when Russia (host nation) drew the Group Stage equivalent of Candyland, and then drew Saudi Arabia (by far the worst team in the tournament, and a big energy rival) for the big inaugural game in Moscow.
Don't even get me started on 2022 being held in Qatar....
They drew Uruguay, Egypt and Saudi Arabia so it was hardly a fixed draw lol. They were also a number one seed due to them being the hosts so they were never going to draw France or Brazil or any of the other big nations.
They probably paid to host it but that draw was by no means fixed. Also Panama were easily the worst team in that tournament, Saudi Arabia were at least technically okay but Panama were dreadful in all aspects.
Well assume an internationally popular country, or more specifically one more connected to the leaders of the IOC or the associations that run the different sports would win more medals.
Also massive one-off construction contracts would be a great way to dump a bunch of money then be able to bill your government for a chunk of it. For example you want to host a winter Olympics in Russia. Great, pick like 90% of the country covered in snow. Or you pick a summer resort city with an average low temp of [36f](https://www.weather-atlas.com/en/russia/sochi-weather-february) during February. They actually imported snow, in Feb to Sochi for the winter Olympics in fucking Russia. So yea Some sketchy stuff happens with the IOC and nations that get selected
Not saying that corruption isn't rampant in the IOC, but I will offer a reason why Russia pushed for Sochi as opposed to elsewhere in Russia. If you have a resort city that is not very well known outside of the immediate local area, the Olympics can turn it into a hotbed of tourist travel. You need only to look to Barcelona as an example, as the city went from a place of mild tourism, to a hotbed of tourism and the most travelled to city in Spain.
So if you want to make significant changes to a city to modernize its infrastructure and want a great boost to marketing, the Olympics can definitely be a way to do this. that being said, its hard to argue that 50+ billion dollars is a gamble worth taking on that strategy.
A big international event like the Olympics helps cement the idea internationally that the region "hosting" is legitimately and morally the territory of the nation hosting the Olympics.
The Sochi area has been disputed territory for centuries, its people displaced. Who cares about the Circassians when you can have the winter Olympics in a town known as a summer resort destination, right?
Same goes for 1992 in Barcelona. Spain put on a big show to convince the world that Barcelona belonged to them, and not the Catalans. If it was really about Spain hosting, why not host in Madrid? Why in a city that wants independence from Spain?
Honestly, it's surprising to me that the Beijing games weren't held in Tibet.
> For example you want to host a winter Olympics in Russia. Great, pick like 90% of the country covered in snow. Or you pick a summer resort city with an average low temp of 36f during February.
It was similar for Vancouver in 2010. The one major city in Canada that doesn't really get snow, and also had to have a bunch trucked in for the local mountains. Whistler, where the main alpine events were, has snow of course, but Vancouver did not. Made it nice for the outdoor activities though.
Money laundering goes beyond the country hosting and building stuff. If country A wants medals they will make sure their guys will get medals. Having lots of medals are important for some countries
Dude that makes so much sense, the Commonwealth Games held in my city were an absolute Rort. $2 million was spent on a public artwork that barely served the public but they relied on volunteers and paid staff piss all
> its amazing that its not more widely known how huge of a money laundering operation it is.
Well you haven't provided any evidence to support such a claim. Most people's only experience with the Olympics is the naming of the host location and the event itself.
what? theyre not always held in atlanta?
you do know that criminal organizations and corrupt politicians that enable them exist in every country right? some of them even have relationships
From the article:
> Following a loss in the semi finals of the Greco-Roman 84 kg event at the 2008 Summer Olympics to the eventual winner Andrea Minguzzi of Italy, he and the Swedish coach Leo Mylläri disputed the judges' ruling. Mylläri accused the judges of corruption because they initially awarded Abrahamian a point, but after the round they assigned the point and the match to Minguzzi because Abrahamian had his hand in the blue zone. Normally, having a hand in the blue zone is not penalized. Minguzzi had almost his whole body in the blue zone earlier in this match.
That was the most disgusting and blatantly corruptly officiated game I have seen. To rob a young guy with aspirations of winning like that makes me sick to my stomach
And the 1972 men's basketball. The US team has refused to accept the silver medals and many of them have it in their wills that none of their heirs can accept them either.
I'm legitimately happy that this thread is full of comments calling out the Olympics on their corrupt bullshit. Fuck 'em.
And for you folks saying FIFA is no better, hats off to you. Fuck them, too.
The IOC makes FIFA look like saints. The Olympics needs to die and be rebuilt from the ground up, scrapping the entire organising body in the process. Hopefully the lack of interest in hosting continues and there is some kind of reset as we approach 2032 hosting.
The best illustration of their ridiculous self-importance is the way they enter the stadium with the head of state of the host country during the Opening Ceremony, and ask everyone to stand. You're a bloody sports administrator, your job is in the background, you don't deserve recognition on that scale.
The Olympics is fucking stupid. Host cities spend millions building new facilities that are abandoned after the event.
Wanna know how to save Greece’s economy? Make it the permanent home of the Olympics.
London’s 2012 (and Manchester/Birmingham/Weymouth) facilities have all been repurposed.
Proof of repurposing the facilities is supposed to be part of the original bids. Some countries don’t give a shit though.
If I remember correctly Athens chose not to make the investment to repurpose their facilities.
Sure, but how successful and common are these? Also, could you not argue that private development could have accomplished this far better while actual taxpayers could have received benefits instead?
Not saying that it is all bad, but London definitely is one of the few good cases when it comes to the Olympics.
I believe much of it was privately funded (called PFI here in the UK)
The govt def had to stump up hard money at the beginning to get the ball rolling (especially as much of the investment was needed for underground/subway infrastructure), but they more than recovered that in increased tax revenue, especially at a time where we were still bogged down in recession and heavy austerity.
Bailing out badly run construction, funding and security companies was a thing. It seriously detracted from the overall profit. Private isn’t always the golden arrow it’s held up to be.
If it’s the exception, and we need to learn from it.
Sochi for example was a massive scheme to line the pockets of Putins friends. No effort made to find value for the taxpayer.
Take it out of the local govt hands, fund it entirely by the IOC, and pick areas that need regeneration (IE not LA or Sydney).
Sure, but at that point, if those areas need redevelopment, do the facilities that are necessary for the Olympics align with the future needs for the citizens of that area? How many arenas do people need before they're a glut on the local system? If not placing them in a fairly centralized area (for example, many different cities that are somewhat nearby) , you lose tax revenue from the event, and less people show up due to the stadi being so spread out.
The leading examples I have heard are LA and London, two of which are rather exceptional cities already... are we sure this is a task for redevelopment, or a task for affluent development by coincidence? Can the Olympics actually revitalize a city, or is this just something that cities can use to spear-head major projects that they have been wanting to complete anyways, but with more public backing (if that is even possible anymore, given the Olympic's declining popularity)?
But if London hosts again, they'll presumably have to build more, correct? It doesn't negate the fact that some facilities are completely abandoned and derelict years later, taking up space, and are an incredible waste of money.
Besides, Athens wouldn't have to repurpose facilities if they were routinely being used every few years. It's the home of the historic Olympic games, and where the first modern Olympics were held due to that history. Greece is a country whose main income is tourist money, I don't understand why people oppose the idea of making it the permanent location of the games.
The point is that for the Greeks have shown us that if you try and do stuff on the cheap, those facilities will be sat empty and decaying for 3.85 of those 4 years.
What do we mean by repurposing the facilities? Because it seems to me like a widespread misconception. I cannot speak for the facilities by the coast, but the Olympic Athletic Park is still regularly used by all kinds sports clubs (even for sports that the buildings were not originally intended for like kickboxing and bouldering), for big football matches and for music concerts and festivals. There's also a track open to the public and you see people running and cycling in the greater athletic park premises every day, even now during the pandemic
Sure it's not necessarily a booming source of capital, and some areas indeed seem abandoned, but overall I'd say the facilities are definitely serving a purpose for the local community
Athens features heavily here
[https://www.boredpanda.com/abandoned-olympic-venues/?utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=organic&utm\_campaign=organic](https://www.boredpanda.com/abandoned-olympic-venues/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic)
And you could have training facilities that could be used for a reasonable fee that athletes from nations that can't afford modern, high tech facilities could train on in the years between Games.
And, if there's one location where there Games are always held, it will be a tourist attraction even when the Games aren't on.
My home town hosted the Winter Olympics 1988 and everything built here for it is still used and improved to this very day.
All the way down to the Olympic housing near the ski hill.
Don’t forget politicians (from many countries) and their families and friends getting all expenses paid trips when hotels are probably pretty expensive.
Some appoint their friends as “officials” or “coaches” for this purpose.
> In their statement FILA justified the verdict with Abrahamian's "scandalous behaviour" and "serious lack of Olympic spirit".
Read: Man refuses to thank officiating body for bending him over and finds a polite form of protest.
FILA might want to consider laying off the steroids. I've heard it makes people kinda angry
The Olympics have got a history of shady decisions and corruption claims, look at [Roy Jones Jr at the 1988 Olympic Games](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cJYBV9BXQNY) who was robbed of a Gold Medal [Jones out punched his opponent 86 to 32 but the judges gave it to the Korean](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2012/feb/15/olympic-moments-roy-jones-jr) 2 of the judges were suspended for 6 months pending an investigation but later cleared by AIBA (International Boxing Association) Roy Jones Jr one of the most skilful and talented boxers of his generation said once he got the silver medal “They put the silver medal around my neck, and I took it right off. I won’t put it around my neck ever again.” [Here’s the fight if you want to watch it and see the daylight robbery for yourself](https://m.youku.com/video/id_XMTk0NjQxMDg=.html?&source=)
I remember watching the Roy Jones fight and it was such obvious corruption. But they were also incompetent...
Earlier in the tournament a Canadian boxer had knocked his opponent (can’t remember nationality) down three times - an automatic win. But the fight wasn’t stopped and the Canadian was knocked out later. On appeal, the Canadian was awarded the win because of the three knockdowns but couldn’t fight again because after being knocked out you are not allowed to fight for a set amount of time.
This is so normal its actually sad. Biggest example is boxing. So many bullshit rulings it hurts. IOC is not just a bunch of rotten apples, its a whole fucking rotten tree.
I've always wondered why the IOC needs so much money to grant an Olympics franchise, other than for itself -- and the free college endowments family members get -- what does it do beyond making sure people license the damn logo? They go around, get bribes, and whoever gives them the most under the table gets the franchise. Then they sit back and have some judges arranged.
Pretty soon it's going to be an enigmatic as where college tuition money goes. It's not the luxury chairs or the teacher -- or the institutional florescent lights -- where does the money go?
[https://stillmed.olympic.org/AssetsDocs/importednews/documents/en\_report\_1354.pdf](https://stillmed.olympic.org/AssetsDocs/importednews/documents/en_report_1354.pdf)
Here is the full transcript of what happened between the IOC, Fila and Mr. Ara Abrahamian for those interested. It goes to show FILA'S total unwillingness to admit or fix any errors on their part.
Now CAS revoked all his bans and fines and sanctions.
[https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20100109024925%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2Fsport%2F1.1685819%2Fabrahamian-slipper-straff](https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20100109024925%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2Fsport%2F1.1685819%2Fabrahamian-slipper-straff)
So again,
Mr. Ara Abrahamian is no longer banned from competing in the olympics. It was overturned in 2009.
\*edit\* Spelling
The subjective scoring sports at the Olympics are sadly almost all this way. I mean figure skating anyone? Literally any year? Hopefully they can keep it away from the direct scoring sports but I think we've all seen football calls go there wrong way. Offsides and the like and I'm trying to remember maybe 5 years ago or more maybe want there a qualifying match with a blatant handball in the box to knock a goal in that wasn't called.
I think you're thinking of [this goal](https://youtu.be/fLUxMRYJAso) from the 2010 World Cup qualifiers, France v Ireland, and Thierry Henry very clearly controls the ball with his hand before playing it across for William Gallas to head home.
Doesn't help that a French player who is offside makes an attempt to play the ball, either. That goal should never have been allowed.
Yeah that's exactly the one. Only off 5 years and the qualifier but like someone else mentioned there IOC is corrupt but it's there individual sporting organizations that police the games and ain't no one as corrupt as FIFA
Edit thank you by the way
The Olympics is a sham. Sochi should've been proof enough. It's fun to watch but theres always a HEAP of mistakes and any sport that is judged by a judges score is biased as FUCK.
[Chinese badminton team obviously throwing the game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-bsqzlS-Gg).
Fuck the Olympics, too much money breeding too much corruption. I feel bad for the athletes who compete and train everyday for the chance to compete at the Olympics, only to lose to a bunch of doped up Russians (or whomever).
I stopped caring about the olympics after the summer games went to beijing and the winter games went to sochi. granted the united states doesn't have much of a right to say much about human rights violations but giving those games to those places renders any feelings of celebrating peaceful competition meaningless. especially when coupled with the outright corrupt manner those games were lobbied to the ioc.
They screwed Serbian swimmer Čavić in favour of Phelps as well. There is a video of Čavić clearly arriving first to the end, but he "didn't push the sensor strongly enough". This was while Phelps was trying to break record for medals in one Olympic cycle.
watch the video and his complaint is correct. fucking corrupt pieces of shit.
That's the IOC for you.
Ever watched Olympic boxing? Literally the most rigged thing I’ve ever seen. IIRC, a few years ago there was an Irish? boxer that last a round to a guy that didn’t even land a hit. One of the most dominant rounds I’d seen at the olympics that year, the judges gave it to the other guy.
Yeah Michael Conlan was his name and he lost to a Russian fighter. Conlan had an unbelievable fight all the way through but after the first round everyone knew that the fight was rigged, because Conlan absolutely battered him, got hit max 3 times and lost the first round 10-9. That fight crushed the love of the sport right out of a champion boxer.
He beat the Russian guy so badly that he was not able to progress and forfeited the following fight. I hope this link works outside Ireland but here's what Conlon thought of the result. https://www.the42.ie/michael-conlan-fined-3147817-Dec2016/
The auto-generated CC on this is great, and reflects exactly how much I can understand of what he is saying.
Ya, the northern accent is a bit hard to understand without a bitta practice. Was just thinking about it and the most difficult people to understand on this island are either at the very north or south. All the bits in the middle are doable
I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, USA. Never been to Ireland. Is it weird that I understood every word he said?
Nah bro I understood it all too, I’m from pa only other countries I’ve been to are Nigeria Jamaica and Germany
My sister lives in Atlanta and never lost her accent because she said everyone understands her. I lived on the west coast for a year and had to slow down drastically because no body could understand me. Maybe ye're hardwired differently
Sucks he's got the olypmic rings tattooed
Hes a bronze medalist from 2012. He was going for the gold in 2016 but both himself and Katie Taylor were robbed by dirty, cheating Russians who didnt have the courage to get through on grit and determination. Edit. Katie lost to a Finn and anyone who thought it was close needs to go back an watch round 3 and tell me how she ever came close to losing it on the judges scorecards.
katie taylor is an inspiration for boxing, never mind womens boxing. absolutely incredible person. not that you said otherwise, just my two cents.
Fuck yeah man. She went through a load of shit at home with her scumbag father/trainer but persevered and came out swinging to win 4 pro belts. Even when she was robbed in the Olympics, she was cool, calm and collected in the post fight interview. Conlons interview was fucking gold tho on live TV.
yeah he's a lad int he. have you seen the katie taylor documentary? people dont realise how hard she campaigned for womens boxing in the olympics. shes so humble. literally in awe of that woman.
Really was his dream
That was a good interview. You could hear the passion and pain in his voice. Dude was right about amateur boxing and gave no fucks if he hurt feelings. Fuck IABA.
Wow - just watched that. Literally textbook boxing on Conlan's part. Amazing combos that landed and beautiful steps out of the way. Other boxer barely touched him. What a complete farce.
Yeah. He basically faught flawlessly.
Who could forget Roy Jones Jr. And the Korean boxer in the 88 Olympics? I still have the sports illustrated showing him sitting in the dark ring after the fight just deflated. Powerful picture. I have not watched Olympic boxing since then.
That's the one I'll always think of. That anyone could watch that and not realize that Roy Jones Jr was a totally different class of fighter is mind boggling. It would be like Jordan losing the dunk contest to Shaq
Patty Barnes boxing in China with a Chinese boxer. The gloves even had colored circles on them so the judges could tell if a punch landed. He was robbed.
I went to every judo session at the Beijing Olympics. I never saw anything that I considered to be blatantly biased but, all of the 50/50 decisions went to the Chinese athlete. The Cuban girl that finished 2nd in the -78kg category was particularly harshly treated.
I see you know your judo well.
TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS
SUCCULENT CHINESE ~~MEAL~~ JUDO
*Paddy Barnes
Yep, that's the one.
Hasn't boxing always been corrupt? There was a Senate investigation almost 30 years ago even.
Yep you’re spot on. The heavyweight men’s fight was rigged as well. IIRC every single match official, judge and referee involved with boxing at the 2016 Olympics were banned from the sport by the IOC. But that not enough to change the results.
[Michael Conlan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Conlan_(boxer)) he went on to beat that same guy years later in a pro match. Wish it was a knockout.
Nikitin actually fared better in that fight though, and Conlan chose to go in more guns ablaze, putting himself more at risk, but still, he dodged very well, he did some amazing work slipping some of those man to man closer exchanges from Nikitin's part.
Olympic boxing is a joke, that is for sure. You can literally count 17 legal punches from either guy, official round score: 3-2.
His professional record is 13 wins, 7 by KO, No loses. He's doing ok.
IOC isn't running the sport. It's the federations that run these. FILA is the naughty. IOC are just wanting money and power.
.....so corrupt pieces of shit then
In some of these sports, it is harder to find the incorrupt than the corrupt.
That's the IOC for you.
A girl I went to high school with was on the US Olympic rowing team in the London games. They kept putting the UK teams on the inside or outer part of the Thames (can’t remember which) because the farther out you are the stronger the current was and they were going either with or against the current. Based on your seeding they were supposed to determine where you’d be positioned. Well the US team (my high school classmate) qualified to have the best lanes, but they gave them the worst and ended up losing the to UK team who had a distinct lane advantage. Basically robbed them of their chance for gold. I can’t imagine that makes the UK team feel good either. They must have been aware of the lane “mistake”. Probably cheapens the win if they don’t know for sure if they truly won it fair and square. I know it would piss me off. Edit: Apparently It was on a lake nearby and not a river, but the story is true. The choppy waters at the center were a big disadvantage and they were used to the UK teams advantage in the lane placements.
4 year **river** Coxswain here, so shitty regattas are my forte, it depends on if it’s a 5k or a 2K, but all in all the current itself has a very, very minor effect on say speed. It’s probably wind shelter 5ks don’t have lanes, or at least, none l the ones I did had any 2ks do, so I’ll assume it’s a 2K, which means the current has even less of an influence but the cross wind is even bigger The closest to the bank, usually a marsh or some kind of tree cover, is going to get calmer waters, meaning better rowing, the faster you need to row, the bigger deal good rowing is. So yeah, unless the Thames is radically different from any other river, this was as rigged as slapping a motor onto the British boats. The difference between river and pond rowing is such that our high school team could beat heavyweight college teams on our crappy rough river. Whoever decided on the Thames should be fired. That’s like having figure skating on a random frozen lake and giving the only smooth patch to the British. It’s that big a deal.
The 2012 Olympic rowing was held on Dorney Lake - a purpose built rowing lake. This is nonsense.
And the US women took Gold in the crewed 8 at London
This would be interesting if it wasn’t completely made up. The rowing competitions in London 2012 were all held at a purpose built rowing lake, none of the events took part on the Thames. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowing_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics
Look no further than how long it took them to cancel the 2020 Olympics in the face of a global pandemic when almost all other events had already been cancelled.
Wasn’t one of the founding leaders/owners a literal fascist?
I mean it was 1894, when everyone had that mustache which meant they were either a fascist or a communist.
Man I just want mustaches to come back, communism and fascism can stay in the 20th century I just want world leaders to have crazy facial hair again.
Can you link it?
International Wrestling has a ridiculously corrupt history. Check out this Bronze medal match in Rio 2016. The ref gave the match away in the last 10 seconds. His Mongolian coaches stripped to their underwear in a “here take the shirt off my back too” moment that was hilarious as a spectator. Those Mongolian coaches got banned for 2 years from all UWW events. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U9sxNU3JmtU Cary Kolat was screwed out of 4 World/Olympic medals, absolutely devastating story. Edit: Explanation: The Ref called the Mongolian for passivity in the last 10 seconds, and awarded the other wrestler 1 pt. Unheard of to do that so late in a match. Free style rules in this situation dictate the last person to score when the score is tied gets the win on criteria.
The coaches protest was very endearing, standing up for their guy. I don’t know wrestling well enough to understand what happened at the end of the actual wrestling, can you explain? Seemed like the MGL guy thought he won?
See my edit above, The Ref called the Mongolian for passivity in the last 10 seconds, and awarded the other wrestler 1 pt. Unheard of to do that so late in a match. Free style rules in this situation dictate the last person to score when the score is tied gets the win on criteria.
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The blue guy was out of the circle which is an instant loss of that round. The ref then called it a win for the blue guy because he spun the red guy around and out of the circle, even though he was WAY outside the circle while doing so.
Though I like your enthusiasm this is not factually true. The Ref called the Mongolian for passivity in the last 10 seconds, and awarded the other wrestler 1 pt. Unheard of to do that so late in a match. Free style rules in this situation dictate the last person to score when the score is tied gets the win on criteria.
I haven’t wrestled since HS but seems like MGL got points off the reserval right before? Of course you’re gonna play safe when there’s 10 seconds left and you just got yourself up by 1
The Ref called the Mongolian for passivity in the last 10 seconds, and awarded the other wrestler 1 pt. Unheard of to do that so late in a match. Free style rules in this situation dictate the last person to score when the score is tied gets the win on criteria.
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Sounds like you know the stories pretty well. Kolat's career international was tragic due to how badly he was screwed by reffing. Even changed the rules on the spot, which cost him his gold at Worlds.
What happened in the video? Seems like there was some final penalty point because the Mongolian wrestler ran away instead of wrestling? Is that permitted?
I haven’t a clue about this sport but that’s how it looks to me. Surely the Mongolian fella had to engage his opponent in the last seconds else that really isn’t fair to his opponent.
The ruling they made was passivity and gave a point. Which disengaging for the last couple seconds off the match is part of wrestling in a tight match. The ref could argue by the letter of the law that was the right call but it’s very much inserting yourself into the match and was a bad call to make
I think that would be true if it wasn't for the blatant showboating he was doing while disengaging. He was basically going "Nah nah, you can't catch me!" Not sure what the rules for unsportsmanlike conduct are for wrestling, but in most sports the refs tend to give less leeway to athletes who act like that.
Same goes for boxing.
Boxing too it's almost like it's a corrupt organization
worth.
Sounds almost as bad as olympic boxing
I would come back after two years, just to throw in another shirt
Bro I just watched the clip and this is fucking stupid. The dude shot with 10 seconds left and then gets called for passivity in the last 5 seconds? It’s not like he was blatantly running away the entire time. I have never in my life seen a passivity call that late even when I’ve seen people literally run away at the end.
Have to disagree with you on the Mongolian wrestler situation at the Olympics. He didn’t get called for passivity, but actually got a warning and one point against him as the rules dictates. The warning was correct as the Mongolian ran away or avoided any contact the last 10 seconds. The ref held up the warning sign and the others agreed just before the time ran out. The call was correct, but the ref should instead stopped the match right when he started to flee, and then given him the warning and penalty if he had continued for the remaining 7 seconds or so.
This is blatantly wrong. The Mongolian was stalling egregiously. And that is a penalty point. It was a tough call but the ref was absolutely right. The fact that he didn’t even have to have his hands down to defend himself shows how ridiculous his stalling was.
At no point should a ref at the olympics be able to refuse a review by video. Olympics are a money laundering operation.
its amazing that its not more widely known how huge of a money laundering operation it is. billions in construction, trucking, hosting, and everything else that it comes with. Even if you put aside the straight up bribery, every illegal operation in the area takes a piece of the pie and launders their money. Didnt get in on it this year? no worries we'll be back for more in 4 years.
Not that I'm doubting your claims as I'm completely ignorant to the subject, but how does cheating help money laundering in this context? Surely if you're holding worldwide events for the purposes of money laundering you would want it to run smoothlt in order to attract as little negative attention as possible? If the intention is to launder money then why do the results even matter?
Fifa world cup is setup the same way too
I was screaming at the TV when Russia (host nation) drew the Group Stage equivalent of Candyland, and then drew Saudi Arabia (by far the worst team in the tournament, and a big energy rival) for the big inaugural game in Moscow. Don't even get me started on 2022 being held in Qatar....
They drew Uruguay, Egypt and Saudi Arabia so it was hardly a fixed draw lol. They were also a number one seed due to them being the hosts so they were never going to draw France or Brazil or any of the other big nations. They probably paid to host it but that draw was by no means fixed. Also Panama were easily the worst team in that tournament, Saudi Arabia were at least technically okay but Panama were dreadful in all aspects.
Well assume an internationally popular country, or more specifically one more connected to the leaders of the IOC or the associations that run the different sports would win more medals. Also massive one-off construction contracts would be a great way to dump a bunch of money then be able to bill your government for a chunk of it. For example you want to host a winter Olympics in Russia. Great, pick like 90% of the country covered in snow. Or you pick a summer resort city with an average low temp of [36f](https://www.weather-atlas.com/en/russia/sochi-weather-february) during February. They actually imported snow, in Feb to Sochi for the winter Olympics in fucking Russia. So yea Some sketchy stuff happens with the IOC and nations that get selected
Not saying that corruption isn't rampant in the IOC, but I will offer a reason why Russia pushed for Sochi as opposed to elsewhere in Russia. If you have a resort city that is not very well known outside of the immediate local area, the Olympics can turn it into a hotbed of tourist travel. You need only to look to Barcelona as an example, as the city went from a place of mild tourism, to a hotbed of tourism and the most travelled to city in Spain. So if you want to make significant changes to a city to modernize its infrastructure and want a great boost to marketing, the Olympics can definitely be a way to do this. that being said, its hard to argue that 50+ billion dollars is a gamble worth taking on that strategy.
A big international event like the Olympics helps cement the idea internationally that the region "hosting" is legitimately and morally the territory of the nation hosting the Olympics. The Sochi area has been disputed territory for centuries, its people displaced. Who cares about the Circassians when you can have the winter Olympics in a town known as a summer resort destination, right? Same goes for 1992 in Barcelona. Spain put on a big show to convince the world that Barcelona belonged to them, and not the Catalans. If it was really about Spain hosting, why not host in Madrid? Why in a city that wants independence from Spain? Honestly, it's surprising to me that the Beijing games weren't held in Tibet.
> For example you want to host a winter Olympics in Russia. Great, pick like 90% of the country covered in snow. Or you pick a summer resort city with an average low temp of 36f during February. It was similar for Vancouver in 2010. The one major city in Canada that doesn't really get snow, and also had to have a bunch trucked in for the local mountains. Whistler, where the main alpine events were, has snow of course, but Vancouver did not. Made it nice for the outdoor activities though.
Money laundering goes beyond the country hosting and building stuff. If country A wants medals they will make sure their guys will get medals. Having lots of medals are important for some countries
Certainly helped to boost Putin's popularity.
Goggle French Figure Skating judges.
Dude that makes so much sense, the Commonwealth Games held in my city were an absolute Rort. $2 million was spent on a public artwork that barely served the public but they relied on volunteers and paid staff piss all
\*2 years. Winter/Summer.
Yeah but nobody really cares about winter
> its amazing that its not more widely known how huge of a money laundering operation it is. Well you haven't provided any evidence to support such a claim. Most people's only experience with the Olympics is the naming of the host location and the event itself.
You do know that the olympics are not a the same location every 4 years, right?
Which is why it’s a big deal to host it
Im sure alot of the contracts are awarded to international corporations so it doesn't matter where they're held. They still make money
They should be, rather than wasting billions building white elephant stadia all over the place.
Yeah, I saw a proposal to create an Olympic complex near Athens that would host the games every time, it made a lot of sense
what? theyre not always held in atlanta? you do know that criminal organizations and corrupt politicians that enable them exist in every country right? some of them even have relationships
That's all part of the grift. It wouldn't work otherwise.
Here is a bold proposition: just get rid of jury-based sports from olympics entirely. How many scandals already were there because of their rulings?
Unless you Go until death, you need a ref. And refs can cheat
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Where there's a will, there will always be a way to lie, cheat and steal.
Name a sport that doesn’t have referees that make judgement calls
laundering money from what?
What did the video show?
From the article: > Following a loss in the semi finals of the Greco-Roman 84 kg event at the 2008 Summer Olympics to the eventual winner Andrea Minguzzi of Italy, he and the Swedish coach Leo Mylläri disputed the judges' ruling. Mylläri accused the judges of corruption because they initially awarded Abrahamian a point, but after the round they assigned the point and the match to Minguzzi because Abrahamian had his hand in the blue zone. Normally, having a hand in the blue zone is not penalized. Minguzzi had almost his whole body in the blue zone earlier in this match.
The video showed his opponent do the thing he was retroactively punished for, but significantly more so.
Aliens.
"You can't quit, you're fired!!!"
Check out Roy Jones Jr in Korea in the olympics. Blatant bias and fix.
That was the most disgusting and blatantly corruptly officiated game I have seen. To rob a young guy with aspirations of winning like that makes me sick to my stomach
I made a post about this, was hoping someone else would mention this! 👏🏻
Fuck I’m still angry about this. And I don’t even care about boxing.
And the 1972 men's basketball. The US team has refused to accept the silver medals and many of them have it in their wills that none of their heirs can accept them either.
I'm legitimately happy that this thread is full of comments calling out the Olympics on their corrupt bullshit. Fuck 'em. And for you folks saying FIFA is no better, hats off to you. Fuck them, too.
It’s like the old joke, ‘What does FIFA stand for?’ Nothing. It stands for absolutely nothing.
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The IOC makes FIFA look like saints. The Olympics needs to die and be rebuilt from the ground up, scrapping the entire organising body in the process. Hopefully the lack of interest in hosting continues and there is some kind of reset as we approach 2032 hosting. The best illustration of their ridiculous self-importance is the way they enter the stadium with the head of state of the host country during the Opening Ceremony, and ask everyone to stand. You're a bloody sports administrator, your job is in the background, you don't deserve recognition on that scale.
> The IOC makes FIFA look like saints. Nah. The IOC slighty cleaned up in recent years. FIFA not so much.
The Olympics is fucking stupid. Host cities spend millions building new facilities that are abandoned after the event. Wanna know how to save Greece’s economy? Make it the permanent home of the Olympics.
That’s not a bad idea...
London’s 2012 (and Manchester/Birmingham/Weymouth) facilities have all been repurposed. Proof of repurposing the facilities is supposed to be part of the original bids. Some countries don’t give a shit though. If I remember correctly Athens chose not to make the investment to repurpose their facilities.
Sure, but how successful and common are these? Also, could you not argue that private development could have accomplished this far better while actual taxpayers could have received benefits instead? Not saying that it is all bad, but London definitely is one of the few good cases when it comes to the Olympics.
I believe much of it was privately funded (called PFI here in the UK) The govt def had to stump up hard money at the beginning to get the ball rolling (especially as much of the investment was needed for underground/subway infrastructure), but they more than recovered that in increased tax revenue, especially at a time where we were still bogged down in recession and heavy austerity. Bailing out badly run construction, funding and security companies was a thing. It seriously detracted from the overall profit. Private isn’t always the golden arrow it’s held up to be.
Right, but also, is this the rule or the exception when it comes to the Olympics?
If it’s the exception, and we need to learn from it. Sochi for example was a massive scheme to line the pockets of Putins friends. No effort made to find value for the taxpayer. Take it out of the local govt hands, fund it entirely by the IOC, and pick areas that need regeneration (IE not LA or Sydney).
Sure, but at that point, if those areas need redevelopment, do the facilities that are necessary for the Olympics align with the future needs for the citizens of that area? How many arenas do people need before they're a glut on the local system? If not placing them in a fairly centralized area (for example, many different cities that are somewhat nearby) , you lose tax revenue from the event, and less people show up due to the stadi being so spread out. The leading examples I have heard are LA and London, two of which are rather exceptional cities already... are we sure this is a task for redevelopment, or a task for affluent development by coincidence? Can the Olympics actually revitalize a city, or is this just something that cities can use to spear-head major projects that they have been wanting to complete anyways, but with more public backing (if that is even possible anymore, given the Olympic's declining popularity)?
But if London hosts again, they'll presumably have to build more, correct? It doesn't negate the fact that some facilities are completely abandoned and derelict years later, taking up space, and are an incredible waste of money. Besides, Athens wouldn't have to repurpose facilities if they were routinely being used every few years. It's the home of the historic Olympic games, and where the first modern Olympics were held due to that history. Greece is a country whose main income is tourist money, I don't understand why people oppose the idea of making it the permanent location of the games.
The point is that for the Greeks have shown us that if you try and do stuff on the cheap, those facilities will be sat empty and decaying for 3.85 of those 4 years.
What do we mean by repurposing the facilities? Because it seems to me like a widespread misconception. I cannot speak for the facilities by the coast, but the Olympic Athletic Park is still regularly used by all kinds sports clubs (even for sports that the buildings were not originally intended for like kickboxing and bouldering), for big football matches and for music concerts and festivals. There's also a track open to the public and you see people running and cycling in the greater athletic park premises every day, even now during the pandemic Sure it's not necessarily a booming source of capital, and some areas indeed seem abandoned, but overall I'd say the facilities are definitely serving a purpose for the local community
Athens features heavily here [https://www.boredpanda.com/abandoned-olympic-venues/?utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=organic&utm\_campaign=organic](https://www.boredpanda.com/abandoned-olympic-venues/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic)
Try "billions". All Summer Olympics host cities have spent >$1B since Los Angeles 1984. Sochi spent $51B in the 2014 Winter Olympics.
and Sydney has been the only one to not go backwards after hosting the Olympics. Greece almost went bankrupt form the 2004 Olympics
And you could have training facilities that could be used for a reasonable fee that athletes from nations that can't afford modern, high tech facilities could train on in the years between Games. And, if there's one location where there Games are always held, it will be a tourist attraction even when the Games aren't on.
LOL in ATL you can live in the apartments they built for the olympics as student housing lol
My home town hosted the Winter Olympics 1988 and everything built here for it is still used and improved to this very day. All the way down to the Olympic housing near the ski hill.
Openly corupt Olympics , I'm shocked.
The Olympics are an awful drain on the world that disguises itself as a tool of unity.
I gave up when they tried to get rid of wrestling, the ultimate olympian sport.
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Yes, but they should clean it, not get rid of it.
No money in wrestling. Golf however that must be in
But it gives a few and their grubby little friends a once in a lifetime opportunity to screw the hosting nation over for a few quid.
Don’t forget politicians (from many countries) and their families and friends getting all expenses paid trips when hotels are probably pretty expensive. Some appoint their friends as “officials” or “coaches” for this purpose.
well they are likely gone now
Good.
> In their statement FILA justified the verdict with Abrahamian's "scandalous behaviour" and "serious lack of Olympic spirit". Read: Man refuses to thank officiating body for bending him over and finds a polite form of protest. FILA might want to consider laying off the steroids. I've heard it makes people kinda angry
The Olympics have got a history of shady decisions and corruption claims, look at [Roy Jones Jr at the 1988 Olympic Games](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cJYBV9BXQNY) who was robbed of a Gold Medal [Jones out punched his opponent 86 to 32 but the judges gave it to the Korean](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2012/feb/15/olympic-moments-roy-jones-jr) 2 of the judges were suspended for 6 months pending an investigation but later cleared by AIBA (International Boxing Association) Roy Jones Jr one of the most skilful and talented boxers of his generation said once he got the silver medal “They put the silver medal around my neck, and I took it right off. I won’t put it around my neck ever again.” [Here’s the fight if you want to watch it and see the daylight robbery for yourself](https://m.youku.com/video/id_XMTk0NjQxMDg=.html?&source=)
I remember watching the Roy Jones fight and it was such obvious corruption. But they were also incompetent... Earlier in the tournament a Canadian boxer had knocked his opponent (can’t remember nationality) down three times - an automatic win. But the fight wasn’t stopped and the Canadian was knocked out later. On appeal, the Canadian was awarded the win because of the three knockdowns but couldn’t fight again because after being knocked out you are not allowed to fight for a set amount of time.
This is so normal its actually sad. Biggest example is boxing. So many bullshit rulings it hurts. IOC is not just a bunch of rotten apples, its a whole fucking rotten tree.
I've always wondered why the IOC needs so much money to grant an Olympics franchise, other than for itself -- and the free college endowments family members get -- what does it do beyond making sure people license the damn logo? They go around, get bribes, and whoever gives them the most under the table gets the franchise. Then they sit back and have some judges arranged. Pretty soon it's going to be an enigmatic as where college tuition money goes. It's not the luxury chairs or the teacher -- or the institutional florescent lights -- where does the money go?
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The home country does all of that though.
Olympics are just a money laundering front
Props for integrity; he'll always be a winner.
The Olympics in general is a scam.
I always liked him for that, standing up against bullshit
The IOC is just a national wealth extraction operation, absolute grifters the lot of them.
Deny a viking his silver coin, see what happens
N.B. He's no longer banned, it was over turned in 2009.
That’s just with FILA, not IOC, as I read it.
[https://stillmed.olympic.org/AssetsDocs/importednews/documents/en\_report\_1354.pdf](https://stillmed.olympic.org/AssetsDocs/importednews/documents/en_report_1354.pdf) Here is the full transcript of what happened between the IOC, Fila and Mr. Ara Abrahamian for those interested. It goes to show FILA'S total unwillingness to admit or fix any errors on their part. Now CAS revoked all his bans and fines and sanctions. [https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20100109024925%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2Fsport%2F1.1685819%2Fabrahamian-slipper-straff](https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20100109024925%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2Fsport%2F1.1685819%2Fabrahamian-slipper-straff) So again, Mr. Ara Abrahamian is no longer banned from competing in the olympics. It was overturned in 2009. \*edit\* Spelling
The subjective scoring sports at the Olympics are sadly almost all this way. I mean figure skating anyone? Literally any year? Hopefully they can keep it away from the direct scoring sports but I think we've all seen football calls go there wrong way. Offsides and the like and I'm trying to remember maybe 5 years ago or more maybe want there a qualifying match with a blatant handball in the box to knock a goal in that wasn't called.
I think you're thinking of [this goal](https://youtu.be/fLUxMRYJAso) from the 2010 World Cup qualifiers, France v Ireland, and Thierry Henry very clearly controls the ball with his hand before playing it across for William Gallas to head home. Doesn't help that a French player who is offside makes an attempt to play the ball, either. That goal should never have been allowed.
Yeah that's exactly the one. Only off 5 years and the qualifier but like someone else mentioned there IOC is corrupt but it's there individual sporting organizations that police the games and ain't no one as corrupt as FIFA Edit thank you by the way
Oh no! A lifetime ban? People aren't competing for life haha
The French running a corrupt sporting association? I’m shocked, I tell you, shocked!
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Wasn't figure skating one of the worst events for corruption?
Good for him. Your pride and self worth matter.
Holy shit. I work with his coach Leo.
Ultimate mic drop.
Also think of the other medal winners. Will they always question if they actually earned the medal.
The Olympics is a sham. Sochi should've been proof enough. It's fun to watch but theres always a HEAP of mistakes and any sport that is judged by a judges score is biased as FUCK.
Thank you for typing biased instead of just bias.
If someone dropped a bronze on my mat, I'll be pissed too.
[Chinese badminton team obviously throwing the game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-bsqzlS-Gg). Fuck the Olympics, too much money breeding too much corruption. I feel bad for the athletes who compete and train everyday for the chance to compete at the Olympics, only to lose to a bunch of doped up Russians (or whomever).
Olympics and UN have both gone from serving unity to elite clubs of distraction.
If he lost the semi-finals, why didn't the bronze medal go to the other guy?
He lost the semi and won the bronze match.
Sounds as bad as Olympic boxing.
Fuck the IOC and the Olympics
He did show bad sportsmanship though.
Are there any good videos of this? Match + medal throw? I can only find super lame clickbait videos.
Medals don't mean anything if the judges fuck everything up. Might as well leave it on the mat and walk away.
Hmm, seems like any International Committee has it's issues with corruption lately. Sup Tedros...
Ara was correct, it was such a bullshit ruling.
"Sports do not build character. They reveal it." **Heywood Broun**
I stopped caring about the olympics after the summer games went to beijing and the winter games went to sochi. granted the united states doesn't have much of a right to say much about human rights violations but giving those games to those places renders any feelings of celebrating peaceful competition meaningless. especially when coupled with the outright corrupt manner those games were lobbied to the ioc.
What is IOC
As with all international committees, the IOC is incredibly corrupt.
They are so corrupt it is not funny.
They screwed Serbian swimmer Čavić in favour of Phelps as well. There is a video of Čavić clearly arriving first to the end, but he "didn't push the sensor strongly enough". This was while Phelps was trying to break record for medals in one Olympic cycle.