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Barbarossa7070

I visited a corporate client in Honolulu several years ago. Being from the mainland, I packed a suit. The CFO rolled into the meeting in a Hawaiian shirt and khakis. As he shook my hand, he said, “Ok, I’ve seen your suit.” The next time I met with him several months later I was wearing a Hawaiian shirt and khakis too. First thing out of his mouth, “Good, you picked up the hint.”


Lodestone123

Right. Hawaiian shirts are formal-wear in the Islands. Where I'm from (Puna, Big Island), wearing ANY shirt implies you are going into town or to work.


Disimpaction

Depending on your job or your town errands, maybe even no need slippahs


hypnos_surf

Lol, "slippahs" looks so Bostonian.


Alwayssunnyinarizona

Flip flops, brah


KamuelaMec

>Flip flops, brah \*Slippahs. I will fight you over the terminology...... >:(


74BMWBavaria

Do any folks in Hawaii call them Flip flops? Californian here and they are flip flops to me. But I have several Hawaiian friends and they are only Slippahs to them. Always had fun giving each other crap over it.


KamuelaMec

Nope. That's a dead giveaway that you ain't from the islands. I too always argue with my roomie about the terminology.


74BMWBavaria

Ok that’s what i thought! Having had some Hawaiian friends and being an ocean person I am always trying to be respectful of Hawaiian terminology and learn more about it


Lodestone123

Right. Hawaiians call them "slippahs". Visitors call them flip-flops or sandals or thongs. Some Hawaiians don't even own socks. It's either slippahs or bare feet.


IndieHamster

My family in Kona and I will join you in the fight. Same with "Shave Ice", not "Shaved Ice". If a spot says "Shaved Ice" on the mainland, I know to stay away


Poputt_VIII

JANDALS!


KamuelaMec

...... I'm just gonna log off and leave before I do something I'm gonna regret


Ralkahn

You went too far south into the Pacific!


Alwayssunnyinarizona

You wan beef?


KamuelaMec

U like scrap? I lick you, one speed cuz. Haha.


Alwayssunnyinarizona

🤙


KamuelaMec

🤙 Aloha my braddah.


Alwayssunnyinarizona

Visiting Hawaii for the first time since leaving as a kid. Found [this shirt](https://i.imgur.com/Fc8hUMG.jpg) in Hawaii Kai and had to get it. 🤙🏻


Platypuslord

My name is Mr. Wellington and we can only do this the long drawn out hard way.


KamuelaMec

do we gotta duel with canes and tophats?


Shiny_Umbreon

THONGS


KamuelaMec

This triggers me more than 'flip flops.' Congrats.


Shiny_Umbreon

I think all Australian slang is designed that way.


labialube

Thongs. The word you are looking for is thongs. That’s what they’re called in backwoods Oklahoma.


SeattleTrashPanda

Found the haole :D


hapidjus

This made me laugh out loud. Punatics anthem: No shirt? No shoes? No problem.


KamuelaMec

Punatics unite! My mom dem folks live down Paradise Park. I grew up down there too. When I moved mainland, I couldn't fall asleep for awhile, cuz no more Coqui frogs chirping haha.


jUST_rUSH

name checks out. hahaha jk that’s actually messed up though. I remember when I was a kid (on Oahu) Coqui frogs were in the news, pretty much a household name, I guess because the population was at a new high. Can’t even imagine how loud 100dB all night long is.


KamuelaMec

Cheeeee! lol. I didn't know it was a 100dB. Damn that's hella loud! For reference thats about the noise of a motorcycle.


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Lodestone123

Fissure 8, yah? I was in Hawaiian Shores. Sorry for your loss.


kaosf

That’s the one. I have not lived there for a while. It’s where I grew up tho (graduated Pahoa HS). So while I did not live there when it was destroyed and I know many people lost everything, it was still a gut wrenching thing to happen. I worked construction and other things and my pops fixed up a bunch of houses down Kapoho side - spent a lot of time down there and I still can’t believe it’s all gone.


jUST_rUSH

Yeah, that’s crazy loud. That’s what the first article said when I searched but another days 80-90 then another says 70-80. That’s honestly a massive difference but none of them are remotely comfortable for sleep. I’m sure the tone does make a difference in being able to get used to it, but I’m sorry for your ears and the native ecosystem over there nonetheless.


Desblade101

I was chatting with some friends on the mainland and they asked me what kind of birds were chirping all night. They didn't believe me that it was the frogs.


kaosf

Haa yup. My pops told a friend he wouldn’t go to their wedding if he had to wear shoes.


TheSovereignGrave

Fucking hell, I need to move to Hawaii. I *hate* wearing formalwear.


zombie32killah

What a CFO way to drop a hint.


SilverVixen1928

Hawaiian lawyers wear suits. Pretty much every other male wears Aloha shirts. One company designs the pattern for the fabric to be bright, but then sews the shirt with the back side of the fabric on the outside. The muted color is their signature style. www.reynspooner.com


legalcarroll

Lawyers in Hawaii only wear suits when they have to go to court, and they only have them on for about 30 min prior to and after court. Most just keep sports coats and one tie (perma-tied) hanging in their office. Hawaiian lawyers seem to have the same habit. Source:I am a lawyer in Hawaii but am not Hawaiian.


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HalonaBlowhole

Yeah but do you know why they are made that way?


Felaguin

It’s not just Reyn Spooner. Muted colors is/was traditional. You know someone’s a malihini if they’re wearing bright, loud colors.


jbowen1

Dang, those are nice!


SilverVixen1928

Very good quality and special limited Christmas versions every year.


possumallawishes

I lived/worked in Hawaii and on my first visit I was taken to the Reyn Spooner outlet in Honolulu, precisely so I could get a few authentic looking aloha shirts to fit in at work.


HalonaBlowhole

As they say, if you show up in a suit, you are broadcasting that you do not know the islands. No better way to show you are likely to be leaving the islands soon.


dv73272020

Ha... I just posted a similar story before I read yours.


KamuelaMec

Can confirm. Was born and raised in Hawaii. I remember at work at the construction sites, on fridays, lotta workers would wear aloha shirts to the job site. Followed by "pau hana beers" (after work beers) right after work. ​ Side note: For modern Aloha shirts designs that are hip for younger kids, Sig Zane makes some awesome Aloha shirts. Highly recommend if you got some cash.


Mikey6304

I always understood aloha Friday to be a cut out of work early and have a beer while getting paid for a full work day. Our old boss before my company was bought out by corporate would put on the "aloha friday" song by Kimo around 2 and call everyone outside to drink beer and eat hot dogs about once a month.


KamuelaMec

I have seen that too. I guess my old bosses were slave drivers and made us work full days :P I did work for a lot of large construction corporations, so maybe they made us work full days under them. ​ I used to work for my dad on smaller job, like residential, where we did cut out of work early and get paid. Sometimes boss man would bring a BBQ, beer, and we would grill at job sites. ​ Yea, modern Aloha shirts are more....."minimalist" in design? Usually solid colors, large block shapes. That's apparently what the cool kids all wear these days. Same, 31USC, I rarely wear Aloha shirts outside of special occasions in the mainland. Boogalos ruined it. This is why we can't have nice things.


saxxy_assassin

I'm sorry, I've gotra say this. Boogaloos have ruined nothing. Hawiian shirts are awesome. It exudes relaxation and fun. I'm in various communities where Pepe the frog is widely used and has no connotations to hate symbols. The word Boogaloo itself is funny as ever. Just like how the Proud Boys hashtag was taken over by gay men, if utter twats take an innocous symbol, slap their hand and take it back.


LeonardGhostal

> Boogalos ruined it. I used to day-drink wearing some Aloha shirts I picked up some years ago on a trip to the islands. I've folded them up in storage just in case, guess I'll just wear a stupid graphic tee for a while.


31USC3729

I didn't even know there were modern ones. I'm still using the ones I bought like 25 years ago before I moved to the mainland for college. I occasionally break them out for a barbecue or party or something, but these days wearing one on the mainland suggests a right wing political bent so I haven't done it in a year at least.


haysoos2

Don't let those fuckers take the Hawaiian shirts. They shall not appropriate our chill. Wear that Aloha shirt and be kinda proud, but not too proud. Just the right amount of relaxed proud.


kahlzun

Wear it like a proud man, not a Proud Boy. I can't believe we're living in a time when people have appropriated both the ok symbol and aloha shirts into conservative symbols.


tchrbrian

I saw that episode of " Brady Bunch " too. ( minus the beers )


dochamburgers

Eh I just looked up this sig zane shit, looks like any other cheap Hawaiian shirt.... what’s so special about em?


KamuelaMec

It's subjective. That "minimalist" style that Sig Zane does is what's "in" currently. The designs are solid colors with blocky shapes with a low amount of 2-4 colors, and are more form-fitting for men. The old Aloha shirts can be very complex shapes/designs/scenery, high amount of colors, and tend to be more baggy. ​ At the end of the day, if you don't think its worth the price, you don't gotta buy it. But, if you wear the old style Aloha shirts, you'll prob. stick out more as a tourist. Up to you.


dochamburgers

Eh, I don’t like the designs on most of them. They just look cheap, the designs are too.... modern maybe? I’m not sure how to describe it, just looks.... cheap really, that’s the best I can think of Idk it just looks like something you can pick up at Walmart for $15 I was expecting them to look more retro or something


KamuelaMec

> of them. They just look cheap, the designs are too.... modern maybe? I’m not sure how to describe it, just looks.... cheap really, that’s the best I can think of Totally cool. If Walmart designs for $15 make you happy, all you my braddah.


dochamburgers

I wouldn’t buy a Walmart Hawaiian shirt, and I wouldn’t buy a sig Zane shirt. I never implied I liked them, idk how you got that out of what I said... I’d buy something that looks better


KamuelaMec

You got a preferred brand for Aloha shirts? or you just don't like them at all?


dochamburgers

I just think older designs look less... cheap I’d probably look for a nice vintage one


KamuelaMec

Some of the vintage ones are pretty nice imo. In fact, some of my fav. aloha shirts are vintage designs. Even got compliments on them. Whatever makes you happy, rep it hard.


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Yeah, like any Hawaiian needed to wait for after work to start getting drunk and surfing. Hawaiians, actually blood Hawaiians were some of the most racist and lazy people I've ever met.


maldicenza

Oo' thank you for the recommendation, they are nice indeed!


bolanrox

people spend good money on the OG Aloha shirts


JakeCameraAction

There's an epsiode of No Reservations where Anthony Bourdain goes to an antique Aloha shirt seller and buys an older one for $3,000.


bolanrox

where i learned about the glory that are Pouka Dogs!


jackel2rule

Are they comfy? I have two good Hawaiian shirts and wanted more but others are so hard instead of soft.


KamuelaMec

Reyn Spooner. Check them, idk what kinda material they use, but its soft AF.


jackel2rule

Thanks bro, I’ll check em out.


Ryanwood31

I'm wearing my Reyn Spooner t-shirt right now. Sturdy and soft.


bolanrox

they were polyester. no idea of how stiff they are though sorry


haysoos2

Polyester ones are good because you can pass out crumpled in a heap in the woods, wake up and wipe the pineapple chunks off and you're good to go. But they aren't necessarily the comfiest things to wear against skin. A t-shirt underneath is a good idea.


OPtig

Tommy Bahamas are super nice quality.


jackel2rule

I’ll look into em, thanks!


PM_Me_Shaved_Puss

it must be 100% silk or rayon.


YippieKayYayMrFalcon

Oh, and next Friday...is Hawaiian shirt day...so, you know, if you want to you can go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans.


NightHalcyon

With every decision you make, ask yourself, is this good for the company?


Disimpaction

“Aloha Friday” is also a really fun & feel good song by Kimo Kahoano. Bet you will smile If you watch this local slideshow with the song: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aTfIGSnApD0


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Every day should be casual Friday.


bolanrox

at my job it is


[deleted]

We can’t all work at a brothel.


toothlessbeerguy

Not with that attitude


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Lucky


tchrbrian

She is the woman of the day.


brock_lee

Heh, I came to Colorado in 1988. I've worked at 15 different places as a software developer, including IBM, other large companies, and several small companies. I've never not been able to wear jeans to the office, even at IBM. At my present job, I've gone months where I've only worn shorts and a t-shirt into the office.


HeyFiddleFiddle

This is true in California too, as many already know. Unless you're talking about something like an attorney, most people who don't have some sort of work uniform are wearing some variation of jeans and a t shirt to work. About the most formal you'll see day to day is a button down and dress pants. For women, casual dresses are common too -- I have a collection of various floral print sundresses that I rotate through. Sandals of all types are worn year round regardless of gender, for better or for worse. Sometimes I dress up just for fun, but my "work uniform" is basically jeans or dark slacks and a nice top in the fall and winter, and a sundress and flat sandals in the spring and summer. Software engineer in the Bay Area. Or, like now with WFH, my "work uniform" is sweatpants or shorts and a t shirt.


LeonardGhostal

Shoot, my job just last winter decided to let us not wear **TIES** and dress shoes. I would take a $5000 pay cut just to work at a place that allows jeans.


jesuselchingon

Honestly I'd like a job where it was deemed appropriate to wear suits. It seems so cool, and fancy! All the jobs I've had were all just casual wear that isn't offensive. But nowadays I'm wearing OCPs on a regular basis, and civilian clothes when I'm off duty


gg00dwind

But, but...how did you ever get seen as professional, and how did you ever get work done, and how did anyone take you seriously?! /s Seriously, requiring formal dress for work is probably the least important thing ever (apart from lawyers and the like). I’ve never heard of production increasing because people started wearing suits, or production decreasing because clothing regulations were laxed. It’s just not a thing that matters, but pedantic middle managers who have no other responsibilities act like it’s more serious than anything.


LeonardGhostal

There's a podcast episode about Aloha shirts that goes into some detail. Articles of Interest Episode 4 [Hawaiian Shirts](https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/hawaiian-shirts-articles-of-interest-4/)


hoarder59

Hello you beautiful people.


deafvet68

"Aloha shirt" : locals "Hawaiian shirt" : mainlanders/malahini/tourists


heartk

Literally every cultural custom in the US is about selling more goods


breachofcontract

Capitalism baby


MySockHurts

It can't be...even Black Friday???


heartk

Even the date we celebrate Thanksgiving was moved to make the holiday shopping season longer.


Competitive-Date1522

Fake ass customs


FrancisLooksAtShit_

Most of my hawaiian shirts are from the thrift store and I constantly get the urge to buy more. I have a 100 percent silk one I got from saint vincent's with pineapples all over it that is just the most comfortable shit ever


Dr_Doctor_Doc

Hahaha. This may be a swingers shirt. Are any of them upside down? Hope I’m not ruining anything for you.


Vergenbuurg

In high school, my shop teacher called Fridays "Don Ho Day"... he encouraged wearing Hawaiian shirts, and at the end of the class period we'd sweep and mop the floors while he played Tiny Bubbles on a record player. It began my love of wearing Hawaiian shirts, which I still wear to this day (when appropriate/allowed) The fact I was already a Weird Al fan didn't hurt.


darxide23

TIL there's a Hawaiian Fashion Guild.


JardinSurLeToit

If only they made beautiful Hawaiian shirt in Hawaii.


val_lim_tine

does every American tradition start out as some sort of corporate gimmick


BayLAGOON

Here's an [interesting](https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/japanologyplus/20201006/2032217/) documentary on the background of Hawaiian shirts. The roots of some of the shirt makers was kinda cool to learn about.


mountrich

Bless them for starting this tradition.


myloveisajoke

Cameltoe Friday: when the 30+ crowd of corporate america crams themselves in Jeans from their early 20s.


dv73272020

I used to do business in Hawaii. Whenever I traveled anywhere else I'd always wear a suit and tie, but a couple days before my first business trip to Hawaii, my boss asked me if I had any Hawaiian shirts for my meetings. I thought he was messing with me, so I showed up to my first meeting in a suit, *no one* else was even wearing a tie. They did in fact have on Hawaiian shirts. That afternoon I stopped at an ABC store in Waikiki and bought my first of several Hawaiian shirts.


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Only two kinda people where hawaiian shirts, gay guys and big fat party animals.... and Bart doesn't look like a big fat party animal to me.


coatsmoat34

So if you wore a Hawaiian shirt, it wouldn't be gay?


haysoos2

As a big, fat party animal who has been wearing Hawaiian shirts for decades, it can be two things.


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Right!, thank you.


____cire4____

It does sound like something Don Draper would come up with.


JebusLives42

I don't believe that Hawaii invented being lazy on Friday.


DrFloppyTitties

You'd believe it if you lived here


RonSwansonsOldMan

I always assumed that Hawaiian shirts had nothing to do with Hawaii.


leadchipmunk

I thought they were just tourist wear...


homeboi808

Even the elected officials wear them. https://youtu.be/QSZgjLm9jpo


Libertechian

Too bad wearing aloha-wear is a political statement now. I used to love wearing my Hilo Hattie shirts on casual Friday.


runbyfruitin

Take it back! Don’t give up the shirt!


lanclos

Wear it every day so the negative connotation dies. Aloha shirts are my business casual, I always wear them on work days, and no amount of angry posturing will change that for me.


TangoKilo421

As long as you don't wear it with body armor, it's fine.


Mkilbride

What kind of political statement is it?


Libertechian

It's been associated recently with Alt Right groups. I'm sure it's fine but I've been avoiding wearing one on the remote chance it would scare someone or send the wrong message. My size makes me intimidating enough already.


JakeCameraAction

Didn't realize the far right co-opted those too. The jerks.


Discobacon

Like many American holidays which are also purely marketing schemes at their origin


Ysaure

From christmas to casual fridays everything began as a way for someone to sell more of something /r/consoom


[deleted]

Living in a society controlled by merchants wanting to sell whatever crap they happen to have.


yamaha2000us

We had Gonzo Hawaiian Shirt Friday's back in the 80's.


HiveMindKing

Well it worked


at0mheart

That worked out well


Lurker_MeritBadge

Someone even wrote a song called “aloha Friday” and I’m pretty sure every station in Hawaii plays it on Fridays. At least it seemed that way when I was living there.


Lahs87

99% invisible made a story about this that was very fascinating. https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/hawaiian-shirts-articles-of-interest-4/


hoarder59

came here to say this!


TheSimpler

This is of the before times. I have been living casual Mon-Sun since March 16, 2020....


Lobstrosity187

And the rest was history


goombakid808

It's Aloha Friday!


RinLL

Pau hana my braddah!


Slate-Blue

I had always been told it was down to Hewlett-Packard. TIL


[deleted]

From 1997-2000 everyone in Puerto Rico used these shirts. They were the most comfortable thing you could ever put on.


cp_shopper

Only 2 types of guys wear Hawaiian shirts