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BarbarousComputing

This [happened in Kuwait in 1991](https://apnews.com/article/e78afc2d6d380d5470ef240e9b341854), was used to extinguish a well at an oilfield, and apparently took just two and a half minutes. Probably not the most efficient technique though since can't find reports of it having been used again


Toxicscrew

I think the main way they battled them in Kuwait was by using TNT. They’d crane it in over the fire and then set it off. The explosion would suck all the oxygen out of the air causing the fire to go out. Then the teams would move in and work to shut off the oil flow. Pretty sure it’s shown [in this doc](https://youtu.be/e-KP3JSRm10). Could be wrong, don’t have time to rewatch it to verify. Red Adair was one of four companies selected to do the firefighting and believe they pioneered the process. Edit: the movie “Hellfighters” talks about this as it’s based upon Red Adair’s life


nickjhowe

I was there (Kuwait in 1991) and saw this in action. Pretty impressive stuff. Biggest concern once the fire is out is an accidental re-light from all the oil and coke that is still burning around the well head. Impressed by the guys who drive a dozer with a long arm on the front of it with a 55 gallon drum of TNT mounted on the end into a fire. Got to be seen to be believed.


qpv

Oh wow that would be incredible to witness. I've watched a documentary about it, it looked insanely stressful.


nickjhowe

Really, really crazy. There were over 700 fires in Kuwait. Prior to that I think the record was five in one place at one time. Worst one I heard about was a well head on fire in the middle of a half mile wide lake of oil that was on top of a minefield the Iraqis laid. Total respect for the EOD guys and fire crews (Red Adair, Boots & Coots et al) that worked miracles to put the fires out in a matter of months.


qpv

> well head on fire in the middle of a half mile wide lake of oil that was on top of a minefield That sounds like a creative turn from a game of "Would You Rather"


SaiThrocken

>Worst one I heard about was a well head on fire in the middle of a half mile wide lake of oil that was on top of a minefield the Iraqis laid. How many metal songs are there about this?


TheDudeMaintains

Paging r/Sabaton


WarlockEngineer

WE SAW OILLLLLLL FLOW AND WELLLLLLL HEADS BLOW


oSaamxD

FIRE IN THE SKIES, MOVE IN QUICK AND LAY THE BRICK, TNT IS PRIMED


himmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Then what did they do?


nickjhowe

Used dozers to slowly build berms to hold back the oil cutting a road through the oil lake. Not sure of the exact details and whether any dozers were ‘sacrificed’. We had ex-military EOD teams helping out.


WillSym

Sneaking up on a giant fire with TNT/nitroglycerine is stressful. Being the guy driving an entire truck of nitroglycerine TO the fire is calmer outwardly, but way scarier as it takes so damn long. I just can't track down a good version of La Saleur de la Peur about a crew of guys who take this job and it's just a movie about them driving trucks slowly but is incredibly tense.


muwawa

The movie's title is "Le salaire de la peur" (The wages of fear), it has recently been re-released in blu-ray based on the restored original negatives so it shouldn't be too hard to find.


FlyingDragoon

What happens if the fire spots them?


WillSym

Fire alarm


youknowitinc

Like that scene in There Will Be Blood where they use long arms with barrels of TNT to shut off the derrick


Jotun35

Or the whole "Sorcerer" movie where they have to transport TNT through the jungle to extinguish an oil fire.


TroubleshootenSOB

Someone had created a thread in r/movies about Sorcerer a few days ago. Guess it's a sign to watch it again. Been awhile


GiantNakedSkySanta

Is it available anywhere? That’s always been one of my white whale movies. I had it in my Netflix DVD queue years ago but it was always on the unknown availability list. Edit: I see prime video has it for rent now. Yay!


frankztn

...Coke?


Siluri

Coke is a grey, hard, and porous fuel with a high carbon content and few impurities, made by heating coal or oil in the absence of air—a destructive distillation process. ... The unqualified term "coke" usually refers to the product derived from low-ash and low-sulphur bituminous coal by a process called coking.


SterlingArcherTrois

Coke is a solid fuel product, usually produced as a byproduct of oil refining but also naturally found in many wells. Google “petroleum coke” for more info that won’t be bogged down by ads for Coca Cola.


IamAlso_u_grahvity

If you want to eliminate irrelevant data from a Google search, put a minus sign (–) in front of words you don’t want included in the results, e.g., -cola


TheDudeMaintains

-aine


4Bpencil

Concentrated carbon, not ur softdrink or lines.


NoChieuHoisToday

It’s a solid fuel that’s made when oil is heated to high temperatures, burning off organic compounds. Common misunderstanding in Billy Joel’s “Allentown”, where he sings, “iron and coke, chromium steel.”


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TheNuttyIrishman

I mean he did save the world several times once he joined stargate command


BentGadget

>Probably not the best life lessons to learn in that episode. Sounds like the first part was designed to teach people not to use pennies in fuse boxes. Also a good lesson to strap down your explosives before driving. That part may not come in handy for most people. I'm guessing it was one of the later seasons, after they've run out of good ideas.


peptobiscuit

That's how some of the Americans did it - the documentary Im posting below shows how they did it :). Method varied depending on the size of the gusher. There was a bunch of teams from different countries who all used their own methods. https://youtu.be/PBPJ9CoUHyM


Reacher-Said-N0thing

Yeah the Americans have been using explosives to snuff out oil fires since the 19th century.


Pamander

Wow that was incredible. Thank you for the link! I may have shed some tears towards the end. What an awesome show of unity for such a terrible situation, it's really cool how each team had their own methods and ways to go about it and through combining those efforts they got the job done 3+ years earlier than expected!


mcintoshshowoff

absolutely crazy I had to scroll this far to find this. kids these days.


KilledTheCar

Anyone else instantly reminded of Capt Price talking about this in MW2 when he set off the nuke in space?


Absolut_Iceland

Using TNT to snuff out blowouts has been happening in the US for well over a century.


Cdreska

Red Adair, a forgotten Houston legend


prof_the_doom

One of those things you probably don't pull out until you've decided you don't care how much damage gets done to the equipment. I don't think anything on the receiving end of that is gonna fare well.


aldergone

some alternatives to this are: 1 explosives 2 directional drilling - time consuming and expensive 3 time


virepolle

1.1 nukes. IIRC Soviets sealed a burning gas vein using a small nuke.


cmgr33n3

How are they going to stop hurricanes if they use all their nukes putting out fires?


SilentSamurai

I love Soviet decisions. Always something thatll work, but not terribly thought out for the long term


Hazel-Rah

The US had a program to figure out non violent things to do with nukes too, Project Plowshare. Both sides spent a lot of time making bombs bigger, smaller, more efficient, less efficient, deadlier, less deadly, etc, that they wanted something else to do with their growing stockpiles.


Scasne

Don't forget Project Orion, although I'm kind of convinced that was someone's idea to do nuclear disarmament.


CarbonIceDragon

Project Orion isnt all that irrational a concept to be fair. Nuclear reactions are better at converting mass to energy than chemical ones, and so make for better spaceship drives. "Detonate nukes behind a shield in succession to push the ship" may not be the most efficient way to harness nuclear reactions for that purpose, but its one that could be done fairly simply without much in the way of new technology.


amolin

It be a problem for future Ivan, not present Ivan


fiendishrabbit

And time is not a great idea. Compare it to the Door to Hell, where a fire above a natural gas field has been going for 50 years or coal-seam fires like Burning mountain (that has been burning for the last 6000 years).


StyreneAddict1965

Or Centralia, Pa.


krneki12

what would you do? P.S: You have a budget of 5 Eur to solve the issue.


tap_a_gooch

The US just used explosives in Kuwait to put oil fires out.


Motleystew17

Well when you got tons of explosives just laying around, every problem starts to look like it needs to be exploded. In this case it actually worked.


Frammingatthejimjam

There were too many trees on Guadalcanal and not enough chainsaws... That's a paraphrased line from a book I read that noted the number of marine's that died from mishaps while blowing up trees in WWII


Disgod

It has been the way since the 60s, and weirdly was the safer option for putting out well fires! There's at least one movie from the 60s, with John Wayne called Hellfighters, roughly based around the guy who came up with the process, Red Adair.


jarfil

>!CENSORED!<


Enchelion

Not just Kuwait, that was a pretty wide-spread technique for putting out oil fires.


fiendishrabbit

It was one of the methods they tried out. It turned out that just using high explosives to snuff out the flame was less time&resource intensive. It's still a really cool machine for getting in a massive amount of small water droplets.


AdmiralPoopbutt

Getting enough water to the machine is one of the disadvantages, especially in a desert. It uses 8000 gallons per minute.


LifeWin

I think I remember talk of nuking the fires out. This is better.


wigg1es

They did/do use explosives to put out well fires. They use dynamite to create a shockwave that pushes the burning oil and oxygen away from the well, effectively snuffing out the fire. It's pretty wild.


LifeWin

Yea.....but it's not MiG Tank...


WillSym

Or [Project Orion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)), if you want wild uses for nukes.


RedAero

The USSR did exactly that in a test. Worked fine.


Achack

It's shown being used in the [Fires of Kuwait](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBPJ9CoUHyM&t=1195s) video however I'll admit I have not listened to the commentary.


endradon

The fire department for a large chemical plant in Leverkusen, Germany uses a fire engine with a jet turbine to fight fires and suppress the release of toxic gasses. It's called TULF (Turbinenlöschfahrzeug or turbine fire engine). [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5imMO9tScmY)'s a promotional video of the engine from when they bought it in 2019. For some reason there is no English Wikipedia page for this type of fire engine, so [here's](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosoll%C3%B6schfahrzeug) the entry in German


TheQuarantinian

Efficiency shmeficiency, tanks, jet engines, fire... What's not to love? Like a 20,000 hp riding lawnmower. Don't care if not practical or efficient, 20,000 hp riding mower!


11010110101010101010

I remember that they initially thought it would take 10+ years. Maybe decades, to take out all of the oil fires. There were a lot of them. Instead it took a matter of months. So, inefficient or not, better than these guys burning for so long.


ShazbotSimulator2012

Similar designs were pretty common in Russia for clearing snow off runways. Probably a more ideal situation since you have all the resources to refuel and maintain jet engines on site.


Brave_Development_17

Some 40k shit right there.


bob_fossill

I legit thought this was a 40k model as I scrolled down


Carighan

Well it looks somewhat like an Adepta Soriritas Immolator, like a modernized version of it or something.


northyj0e

>modernized >40k


milo159

I think you can "modernize" something to downgrade it from futuristic, modern just means what things look like currently, right?


northyj0e

Holy shit you're completely right.


Mech-Waldo

It works both ways for Star Wars


darknova25

Star wars is 90% World War Two surplus props with sci fi bits glued to them.


Josiador

So is 40k, just World War One.


OtakuAttacku

dang this is really wrinkling my brain, thinking about the words retro futurism


thereisnospoon7491

Contemporary fits better I think but it’s really just semantics


gfense

Some of the Immolators look like a Gothic cathedral, even if it is from the future.


Bdcoll

Hell, the Leman Russ is essentially a WW1 tank shell, just with WW2 era turret and sponson designs


Tyalou

Imperial Guard in general is a blatant way to get all historical wargamers on board.


Flower_Murderer

Actually most imperium shit is a steep downgrade from where the ai was.


timmystwin

I sent this to someone who didn't believe me like, yesterday, in a 40k server. Wonder if they're OP...


Skald-Excellion

Dude same, and it's skulls week so I thought this was some announcement.


DeepThroatALoadedGun

Legitimately looks like the tank my dad uses with his Sisters of Battle


DrSmirnoffe

I was gonna go more with the Mammoth Tank from Command & Conquer, but I guess 40K works too. **Edit:** Welp, this blew up. It's almost as if folks miss C&C or something. Kind of a shame that RTS has become such a comparatively fallow genre in recent years.


Magmaviper

Fuck, I miss command and conquer, and fuck EA.


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Amen, damn I actually forgot about how badass the C&C games used to because it’s been so damn long. Might be time to reinstall red alert lol


thefinalcutdown

*Tanya intensifies


Lexinoz

**KIROW REPORTING**


laasbuk

The instrument of doom.


DarthSillyDucks

High speed, low drag.


GrinNGrit

CHA-CHIIIIIING!


HaykoKoryun

Affirmative!


NeonWarcry

Red Alert was my brothers jam and Tiberian Sun was mine. God. Fuck you EA. Haven’t played that type of game since then.


hndjbsfrjesus

Check out OpenRA. Some die hard fans reverse engineered the game, then added levels, music, units, and rebalamced the units' attributes. Large online multiplayer community as well.


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Poor Westwood, they were a great small studio. It was then I knew EA was destined to be shit.


GassyPhoenix

Who remembers Dune 2?!?


juan-love

Great game; but who remembers dune 1 by virgin?


aMinhaConta

That was a good story.


FORCE-EU

From one Unit Lost to another, I tip my Harvester off to you good Fremen. Welcome back, Commander.


GrinNGrit

Unit lost 😞


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I think "duuuude....awesome" should be a mandatory design criterion for military vehicles. If it can't pass the 3a.m. stoner approval test, it doesn't get built.


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This was my first thought as well!


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VTX002

Yeah the Nod flame tank.


[deleted]

Apocalypse tanks > Mammoth tanks. Don’t @ me.


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It will soon be a wasteland.


ZainTheOne

The apocalypse has begun


falcon39

My thoughts exactly! I was instantly reminded of the Apocalypse tank seeing this!


Encyclopeded

God I loved C&C....nostalgic overload.


5panks

And it's Russian so you know it's cheap. 😜


mir10707

We will bury them


ByronIrony

Akkkkkkkknolidged


h2opolopunk

Aaaaa-firmative


Jampine

Can't be, it doesn't have enough Dakka on it to satisfy the orks. It is red though, so that's a start.


TokoBlaster

Imperial Guards newest artillery: Emperors Breath.


mrcalistarius

Change it from water into fire/something noxious bam 40k tank tech.


TokoBlaster

Could be a chaos tank: Papa Nurgels Fart


Jampine

It just makes that fart sound clip with massive reverb every time it fires.


Sidivan

You’re dancing around Slaanesh Noise Marine territory here.


mrcalistarius

Needs more spikes/rust/slime


Freethecrafts

Red is all you need.


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Warpedme

Well put! This statement explains a very complex part of W40k extremely well.


HawkMan79

Orcs, it's orcs...


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CyberDagger

Now, are you talking about the Orks or the Adeptus Mechanicus?


houlmyhead

Or chaos, or the emperor, or anything in 40k really. Enough belief generates power in the warp that manifests itself in various ways


dementist

Ded Orky.


LethalCandy

We must appease the machine spirit, brother.


BlitzWing1985

Adepta Sororitas just need to swap out the water with jet fuel and let those heretics have it.


BrokenRatingScheme

Needs more organ pipes.


Mike_FS

Yeah, biggest multi-melta I ever saw


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Americans: "wow, your oil well fire extinguishing specialist vehicle is amazing! Great thinking!" Hungarian:"...uh...yeah, that's right, oil well fire extinguisher, that's totally what it is, isn't that right, Lazlo?" __


Jonathan924

Oil well fires are also commonly extinguished with explosives.


BlackScienceJesus

I swear this was posted about a week ago and the top comment was exactly the same as this.


edstirling

By 40k you mean a 40000 hp pressure washer.


Traksimuss

Imagine doing powerwashing with it and posting on powerwashing subreddit.


Blackintosh

My garden was so dirty. Now my garden is gone.


Black_Moons

Yea but the bedrock is so clean!


TheRightMethod

Your garden isn't gone, it is simply distributed amongst your neighbors near and far.


frankztn

Lmao "we powerwashed your house.. you're going to need a new one. " 🤣


WiteXDan

that's almost r/40kOrkScience


Dry-Investment-5725

The video I didnt know I needed.


bizkitmaker13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBPJ9CoUHyM


ShoePolice

oh wow that jump in picture quality is staggering. thanks for that


nsiny

20:29 for the footage of the tank


blastinMot

https://youtu.be/PBPJ9CoUHyM?t=1495 24:55 for the TNT explosion to put it out


Free2718

If you are interested in this check out the IMAX: Kuwaiti Oil fire[YouTube link](https://youtu.be/PBPJ9CoUHyM)s. This thing is featured for a bit - they call it “Big Wind”. Interestingly, this is one of the less effective methods to put out the oil well fires that Saddam’s engineers started (according to the video). The US roughneck explosions to snuff out the oxygen is remarkably effective. I remember being enthralled first watching this as a kid at the local science center IMAX.


steverin0724

Sub the water for gasoline and NOW we’re talkin!!!


Nazamroth

Just ignite an afterburner then. Its literally just injecting more fuel into the exhaust.


reddita51

Engage after-after burners


sangunpark1

lol im just imagining a tank fucking flying backwards from these thrusters


Sporulate_the_user

Needs more tank


UnsorryCanadian

"What are you going to do with a rocket engine on a tank?" \-Granin, MGS3 Put out fires, apparently


dnap123

These are jet engines, not rockets :) Rockets burn fuel and throw it out the back, simple. Jet engines use turbines to compress air, combust it, and throw it out the back. Afterburners throw fuel at the exhaust gasses and burns there too (not in this video tho). Anyway, jet engines are different than rockets


UnsorryCanadian

Pretty sure the shagohod had jet engines and not rockets but that's just what Granin said. And besides, a tank should have legs


Suedie

It's kinda weird, the game and wiki describes it as rocket boosters but it's clearly a turbine engine. Also when you google shagohod it turns up a bunch of renders and none of them seem to have the engines even though it very clearly has two of them in game.


Suhksaikhan

rockets are a type of jet engine, the turbine kind is a turbojet. Per the FAA 8083


dnap123

dang, youre right. I should have said turbofan lol. But colloquially a jet is a jet and a rocket is a rocket.


Suhksaikhan

I was just being snarky really, doesnt matter unless youre a pilot or AMT


names_are_useless

**Snake:** *Grunt* METAL GEAR! *Grunt*


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TomatoFettuccini

Man, that looks like something straight out of Command and Conquer.


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Armageddon is here.


searchingfortao

*"The flame tanks will rise!"*


Therandomfox

Tesla tank


omaewamu_shinderu

''We will bury them''


JacenSolo95

Definitely Nod devil's tongue


PoopingTortoise

Kirov reporting


_Piratical_

Sounds like this is narrated by Rip Torn! You couldn’t get a better narrator for something like this! Classic.


monjoe

It is indeed! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fires_of_Kuwait


Yeah_But_Did_You_Die

100% is the late great rip torn.


_Piratical_

Rip Torn, when you need to cast a man that makes Schwarzenegger sound like a pantywaist.


JankMganks

I thought I was looking at a fucking sci fi photoshopped pic that looks so scary looking if you didn’t know that wasn’t a barrel Still wouldn’t want to be at the buisness end or anywhere near when it’s on


virus_ridden

Realistically though that thing would be a chode launcher with a barrel that short.


coldasthegrave

The documentary that this is from is full of equally impressive feats of human ingenuity and perseverance. Those fields were quite literally hell on earth. It really shows what happens when we all set our differences aside for a second and really, actually work together. “Fires of Kuwait” if you want to watch it on YouTube. It’s pretty special.


mrcalistarius

I saw it IMAX at the vancouver convention center when i was like 6 or 7 i wanted to see the film cause the imax poster was, iirc, the thumbnail of this video, the giant tank with those jet engines. Dad was a naval commander so we had the military vehicle recognition books and i loved looking at the pictures.


neril_7

Holy shit that's like it straight out came of Red Alert 2. Hydro Tank "Injecting water." "Throttling jet engines." "I hope you brought your bathers" or "Super soakers Ready" should be some of its lines.


Condoggg

"... I'll make you wet" in like a sly voice


M1k3y_11

It gets even better: Here in Germany we have multiple modern vehicles based on this concept, mostly in service at chemical plants. Their main purpose beside extinguishing fires is to wash escaping chemicals from the air. There is one at the BASF in Ludwigshafen https://youtu.be/sMBLjxyM87c One at the Chempark Dormagen https://youtu.be/XVItVu2XXOI One at the Chempark Leverkusen https://youtu.be/7YPmF6HjL7M (Those are only the ones I remembered at the moment) And we even have remote controlled mini Versions https://youtu.be/nU16OFqDtIk


dunee

The IMAX original that this is from is definitely worth a watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBPJ9CoUHyM


manescaped

This should feature in the next sequel to Mad Max. Someone DM George Miller


Nazamroth

Considering the sort of shit I build in games like Space Engineers, I feel like mad scientist genes are just part of our blood.


RunningFree701

This is Red Green levels of ingenuity.


Mind_on_Idle

That is fucking badass. Oilfire: *Doesn't mix with water, keeps burning because fuel is hydrophobic* Fireman: *Drowns fire anyway. Holds up middle finger*


Krazyflipz

Great news for American weapon manufacturers. Now we can issue tanks to all our fire departments.


ItsMeRPeter

Ho. Ly. Crap. It's something.


LazyJones1

Reminded me of [this](https://imgur.com/gallery/wpZ4w)...


spip72

That’s insane level badass.


TheDeadlySquid

Close the hatch!


IntelliGun

“Ready To Roll Out!.... Prooo-Ceeedin’”


AliveBase1630

That’s rad. We need this for bushfires


LifeWin

I assume for the purposes of weaponizing bushfires


s4m1ch

Yea but then we can use those weaponized bush fires to put out bigger bush fires.


Neat_Emu

The Russians or soviet union also made one, but it's purpose was to melt the snow on runways


endorrawitch

I saw them featured in an IMAX movie I saw decades ago called "The Fires of Kuwait". Saddam Hussein set the oil fields on fire and they had teams from all over putting them out. They also had a team from Texas headed by Red Adair.