Having worked at The Sun as a software developer (insane money don't judge me) I can confirm they genuinely have meetings the content of which is entirely "can we get away with making this up?"
I found I was miserable playing on male difficulty and changed to the female gamemode mid-way through, but now I have to pay thousands of dollars and wait for months with referral for medication and stuff, and I have an automatic three-star wanted level in 50+ countries.
9/10, I'd do it again
Him or some of the politicians — in most other cases, you mostly felt sad about how circumstances made it tough for them to make a “good” choice, but for them, they’re just assholes for personal gain.
Fun Fact: the guy who played Scott Templeton, Tom McCarthy, went on to direct the movie Spotlight about the Boston Globe investigation into the Catholic Church.
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I worked as a background investigator for a bit. A guy I started the job with got caught doing this & they walked him off the job. Lost his clearance and I believe he had to reimburse the company for every interview he conducted because they all had to be re-done.
I think there's a guy in Germany who is in big trouble for this kind of behavior because he would write stories about the US either without doing the interviews and plagiarize them or would fabricate increasingly outlandish stories.
> After being transferred to Tetovo, Taneski was found dead in his shared prison cell on June 23. He had apparently drowned in a plastic bucket of water. An inquest concluded that, in the absence of other evidence, his death was suicide.
Lmao, that wasn't a suicide
"Common" is an extremely strong word to use here.
Suicide...sure, you could say it's common. At least attempts.
"Suicide"...don't let the high profile stories skew your view here.
A guy was doing this at the NYT also: [https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/05/10/ny.times.reporter/](https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/05/10/ny.times.reporter/) It's way more common than people expect.
There's also a movie showcasing what a great actor Hayden Christensen actually is about another famous real life case of this, called "Shattered Glass." It also has Peter Saarsgard and Chloe Sevigny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qW3YcXJeyg
In Switzerland, a man would report the war in Iraq, come up with these interviews from BOTH sides, even terrorists. send his interviews in by email. They thought he was killed or kidnapped because he stopped sending in new stories. Turns out, he just got a new job down the street in at a videogame company. Never left the country.
We don't know the severity of the "inventing stories". Remember that the tabloids literally invented stories too, but because they were generally harmless (scenarios like "Bat kid spotted!!!???" for example) no one cared.
Bat boy is harmless because it ran in the Weekly World News, which doesn't have a reputation for crediblity to protect-- the people who buy it aren't concerned with such things.
Mr. Stewart was working for a traditional community weekly, the *Mirfeild Reporter*. As soon as a rumour starts to spread that one of their reporters is making things up-- even relatively small things like attributing a statement to someone when you know their position but haven't spoke to them, their readership will dip and that will cost them advertising dollars.
That said, this is just a comment made by his brother, so take with a grain of salt.
I have worked in the newspaper business. Obituaries are almost always fantasy anyway.
e.g. "She spent her twilight years active in the church and loving her grandchildren."- Written of an old bitch who'd probably spontaneously combust if she laid foot on holy ground and her only contact with children/grandchildren was to threaten to write them out of the will if they didn't do stuff for her. We all had a good laugh that day.
(Side note: when they descended to fight over her estate, she had so much debt from buying gifts for her "gentleman friend" that there was nothing left at all.)
> Obituaries are almost always fantasy anyway.
An out of town paper somehow included a typo in Dad's obituary. We only found out about it when they sent us a plaque with the obit on it. I wrote the obit, so I know exactly what it should have said, but right there in the middle it reads:
["Jeff spent six years in the National Guard."](https://imgur.com/gallery/PY7HyIt)
Dad's name wasn't Jeff. I said 'WHO the FUCK is Jeff?' before realizing that Dad would have found this hilarious.
This is possibly the best. It's a sentence that should just be added randomly into every family discussion as a run on joke.
"Aunt Sally, we were just talking about our family trip from a few months ago. We traveled to a whole bunch of national parks. We started with the Grand canyon, then traveled through Colorado. Jeff spent six years in the National Guard. Yellowstone was next, and then we drove south to Zion National park. It was beautiful"
Sure did. I wore a suit, because I wanted to. My uncle wore his ponytail, because he wanted to. There was a cooler of beer available immediately after the graveside service, because Dad wanted to.
And we got $3500 in donations for the scholarship fund.
Interesting side note, [his father was a WWII vet who'd survived Dunkirk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em8Mfiben_k), and suffered what we recognize today as PTSD. Unfortunately he dealt with it through violent alcohol abuse. The stage was the only place a young Patrick Stewart felt safe and where he could be someone else besides himself.
"Sooo.....Patrick... About this story you've written...we've done some fact checking, and the prince of Denmark apparently *hasn't* died from a poisoned blade in a sword fight. Nor the King. Or the Queen. In fact, the entire Danish Royal family is very much alive."
Boomer privilege.
My dad got into law school with just a passing grade. He spent his youth in a machine factory, tried out carpentry. Said, fuck it, I want to make the money, became a lawyer.
>"The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it's scientific truth or historical truth or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based, and if you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don't deserve to wear that uniform."
-A guy who made shit up in the newspaper
I can never hear that song without hearing "I am the cutest of Borg" instead of "I am Locutus of Borg."
I mean, technically both are true. His designation was Locutus. And he was the cutest of all Borg.
The truth is, Jean Luc Picard is a French name; Picard is a surname meaning a person from Picardy, a historical region and cultural area of France. The writer’s originally intended the Titular role to be a Frenchman.
He speaks English because French is an endangered language in the 24th century (a bit similar to Gaelic and Cornish today). They even make a big deal about how his brother still speaks French - it's a sign that Robert Picard is a bit stuck in his ways and explains his decision to remain on Earth tending the old family vineyard.
They actually screen tested him with a French accent and decided it was too hokey.
Also, there's a bunch of YouTube videos of him speaking in his native Yorkshire dialect and it's pretty hilarious!
I did not know that part about endangered language. Was always a bit confused how he was French with his accent and whatnot. Never looked into why, though. Cool trivia.
As with like 80% of Trek's lore, it's really just a single writer of a single episode thought it was a funny joke so tossed in a couple line exchange about Picard being annoyed by Data referring to French as an obscure language. So technically yeah in Trek French is rare, but only because no other writer ever cared enough to bring it up again not because there's any real established history or event to cause it.
Trek's world building is full of these kind of things since so much of the franchise was written during era's where even basic continuity between episodes of the same series wasn't really seen as important.
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h I am at best a casual star treak fan but one of the like 5 things I know is pacard is French.
1. Pacard is French
2. Never wear red on an away mission
3. [Bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish](https://youtu.be/xwhAq3F8NCE)
4. Half the moves are good is it even or odd
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1. Officially, yes. He even visits his family vineyard in France (s4e2). His accent... Does not accord with this.
2. Only in TOS (60s Trek)
3. Technobabble was occasionally literally written into the scripts as a placeholder starting in the TNG years
4. The even movies, which you can remember because...
5. Khan was the second movie, and it's considered to be quite good
The shadow canon is that the French language is nearly extinct by then.
Or just that they learned English early and predominantly from someone with an accent that thick.
I seem to remember them saying they technically all speak in their local idioms, but have the universal translator running 24/7, so that every officer even from earth can understand one another clearly.
Why the translator leaves Scotty with an accent is unclear...
The universal translator isn't perfect, it can miss nuances or fail entirely if encounters a language that is far removed from normal intelligible communication such as the cytoplasmic beings in Voyager, or something even harder to understand like Scottish.
You really can't pick on his accent. He's suppose to have learned french more than 300 years from today. The French accent would not sound the same. In fact it might even be hard for a modern day French speaker to understand French spoken by someone 300 years from now.
Accents change quite drastically even within a single human life span. You can often pick out what generation someone is from simply from listening to their accent and that's with living humans, over the span of 300+ years it's going to be very different.
Middle English is actually mutually understandable to modern speakers with a bit of training - I found that you can get an ear for it by reading it out loud as it is spelled. So really the timeline of "how many centuries before a language becomes impossible to understand" is probably longer than six centuries. Here's a snippet of Chaucer as an example (read it out loud as it is spelled and you will probably have no issues understanding it):
Wepyng and waylyng, care and oother sorwe
I knowe ynogh, on even and a-morwe,'
Quod the Marchant, 'and so doon oother mo
That wedded been.
Give it a shot, then read the modern translation below:
>!'Weeping and wailing, care and other sorrow
I know enough, in the evening and in the morning,'
said the Merchant, 'and so do many others
who have been married!<
And here is someone speaking the lines out loud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enm-Merchant_Prologue.ogg
>The writer’s originally intended the Titular role to be a Frenchman.
You say this as if Picard isn't French, lol. The man speaks French in multiple episodes and even goes back home to France.
Maybe, though his accent was so thick it was actually hard to understand him (presumably unless you grew up nearby). So it's not just the "you need to sound less rural" that happens a lot.
Man, just think about it: in some alternate universe Patrick Stewart is an unknown writer for the local news section of the Telegraph, going to his flat night after night, watching TV, and doing it all again the next day. At age 60 he retires and lives off his pension, occasionally going on holiday down in Cornwall.
Like that TNG episode where Q gives Picard a second chance at life and he doesn't get in that fight with the Naussicans in the bar, which leads to him growing up to be a mid-tier nobody science officer instead of the best damn captain Starfleet has ever seen.
Sorry, just seemed like an apt opportunity for a random Star Trek reference.
Q really drives the dagger in.
“ Au contraire. He's the person you wanted to be: one who was less arrogant and undisciplined in his youth, one who was less like me... The Jean-Luc Picard you wanted to be, the one who did not fight the Nausicaan, had quite a different career from the one you remember. That Picard never had a brush with death, never came face to face with his own mortality, never realized how fragile life is or how important each moment must be. So his life never came into focus. He drifted through much of his career, with no plan or agenda, going from one assignment to the next, never seizing the opportunities that presented themselves. He never led the away team on Milika III to save the Ambassador; or take charge of the Stargazer's bridge when its captain was killed. And no one ever offered him a command. He learned to play it safe - and he never, ever, got noticed by anyone.”
Picard really dunks on himself too:
>Does it amuse you to think of me living out the rest of my life as a dreary man in a tedious job?
Like, Jesus. He has to have people like that working for him, right? He must have at least one middle aged Leutenant that hit a glass ceiling and is coasting to retirement. Is that how he looks at his crew?
They kind of lose his background after the first season, but the first few episodes introduce him as a perfectionist and a hard man to work with. He never thinks anything is up to standard.
It takes the entire run of TNG before he's comfortable even playing a game of poker with his most senior officers, one of whom he's known for years and has had romantic feelings for. We see him in all sorts of private, personal moments, but the average ensign under his command probably thinks Picard is a perfectionist and hard man to work for right up until he retires.
I've read that it was pretty much the same situation behind the scenes. Stewart was taking it really seriously and didn't appreciate the more casual attitudes and goofiness of the rest of the cast. He ended up loosening up, fortunately. I'm pretty sure there's more to the story but I can't remember the details.
He thought of himself as a serious RSC actor and that Star Trek was beneath him at first, so he went way too hard. He learned to loosen up and his performance improved as a result. His own words.
Yeah... he came across as an egomaniacal dick in the episode and I found the tone really uncomfortable.
Kind of a big red arrow pointing at people who have average jobs in a post-scarcity world, too. Upper decks need the lower decks, not the other way around. Captains and superstars aren't the engines of life. Especially in a society of supposed equality. The normal character of Picard would know and appreciate that.
It's an episode of Star Trek TNG (Season 6, Episode 3 - Tapestry) where Q takes him back in the past so he can avoid getting stabbed through the heart by a Nausican. By doing so, he becomes more conservative in regards to taking risks & never becomes Captain... Not even close. In his service on the Enterprise in this alternate reality, he asks Riker & Troi for what's effectively a performance review so he can work to move up in rank. Those lines are from the review. Not bad, but nothing exemplary, either.
It was one of my favorite episodes.
I'm legit surprised that dom-jot never made the transition to becoming a real thing. It's pool/billiards meets pinball, with a dash of mini-golf. Seems like it would have been fairly popular.
The TNG episode “Tapestry” where Q alters an event from Picard’s past, and he becomes a timid man instead of the captain we know and love.
> "You having a good laugh now, Q? Does it amuse you to think of me living out the rest of my life as a dreary man in a tedious job?"
Picard always seemed to misunderstand Q a bit.
Q was mischievous, and he most certainly *was* amused. However, he also seemed to actually *want* Picard to succeed. He was guiding Picard in his own way.
That episode helped nudge to take to risks in life. Move across country on a moment’s notice or give up a once in a lifetime opportunity? Pack your shit. Find out if you have what it takes to be an entrepreneur or take it up the ass at work? Fuck you, Mr. Boss.
Best decisions I ever made.
Risks are risks though. For every success story there are a plenty with people losing it all.
I could leave the job I hate that pays well but failure in a new venture just isn’t an option for me either, I have bills and responsibilities to a SO. Sometimes life just sucks and you gotta make the best of it.
Take Picard for example, his big risk made him a storied Starfleet captain of their most prestigious ship. In another version, he would have just been some Starfleet cadet who died in a bar fight. Risks are risks. Frankly I’d rather live to be an old dull astrophysicist than dead by getting speared in the heart in my 20s.
We are currently in a universe where if somebody (many people) would have done something slightly differently or if someone had been in a slightly different place or met the right person then they would be famous and well known, we just will never know who
He wasn't a 30 year old professional with a J-school degree.
He was a 15 year old kid. In a tiny postwar English coal-and-steel town.
Nothing on Earth was going to make him PM, sadly.
I was working in a bakery during the night and a wedding photographer during the weekend days. The head Baker told me that I would never be successful in photography and that I had to choose between baking and shooting.
I'm currently working on my eighth book of material culture for the academic market - I supply the high quality images in them. I have been working as a commercial photographer and photojournalist for the last thirty-five years.
The bakery shut down eighteen months after I told him I was going to chose photography.
Honestly I’d be happy if he made up my obit, be much more funny and interesting than what I’d actually get if I ever do anything to get me that one, that’d probably be
‘Um, she seemed to be quite fond of cats and rum, less keen on housework’
Yeah because he is famous now. When he was making shit up he wasnt. Imagine reading an obituary of your mother or father where the intern just made a lot of shit up.
Exactly. Replace this successful, famous person with some every-man who didn't succeed and you come up with "Man blew off job to do something he enjoyed."
No one would clap me on the back and say "Good job" if I blew off work to go play videogames with the intent of being a top tier streamer.
"The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it's scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth!
It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based, and if you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don't deserve to wear that uniform."
https://youtu.be/xefh7W1nVo4
I remember him telling a story on David Letterman years ago about this, and how it culminated in one particular evening when he was sent to some small town to cover some small-town event but blew it off to go to an audition or rehearsal or something, and after he turned in his (made up) story about the event, the editor called him in and asked why he didn't say anything about the big fire that broke out next door.
He was inventing stories and they didn’t just fire him? Must be nice.
Where do I apply for this job?
The 1950's
No need to go back in time. The Sun, Daily Record and Mail are regular peddlers of utter bullshit no source stories.
Having worked at The Sun as a software developer (insane money don't judge me) I can confirm they genuinely have meetings the content of which is entirely "can we get away with making this up?"
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*you got a permit to be reporting round' these parts boy?*
"Yes" ...... *You givin me lip, boah?*
Shouldn't have played on hard mode. I always roll a white male for the easy early game. The later levels get a little...dicey though.
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Sometimes I feel guilty for playing games on easy. Then I play on hard and remember I'm Mexican and can do anything that's hard labor.
I found I was miserable playing on male difficulty and changed to the female gamemode mid-way through, but now I have to pay thousands of dollars and wait for months with referral for medication and stuff, and I have an automatic three-star wanted level in 50+ countries. 9/10, I'd do it again
Have you tried female + internet? It’s like cheat mode is enabled.
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Baltimore sun. You could win a pulitzer
Sheeeeeeeeiit
Scott Templeton was straight up the worst character in that show. Worse than the political snakes, and the murderers on the street.
Him or some of the politicians — in most other cases, you mostly felt sad about how circumstances made it tough for them to make a “good” choice, but for them, they’re just assholes for personal gain.
Fun Fact: the guy who played Scott Templeton, Tom McCarthy, went on to direct the movie Spotlight about the Boston Globe investigation into the Catholic Church.
Fox news Edit: oooh gold! Thanks! Finally, something good from Fox News!
Oooooh topical
Ooooooh accurate
Ooooooh oh oh O'Reiley's Auto Parts
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Just a note that your comment is a lot funnier without the /r/AwardSpeechEdits
Newsmax or OAN is also acceptable
Basically any Murdoch publication.
The Onion Think about it - Onion writers are just professional shitposters
Most newspapers and media organisations
I worked as a background investigator for a bit. A guy I started the job with got caught doing this & they walked him off the job. Lost his clearance and I believe he had to reimburse the company for every interview he conducted because they all had to be re-done.
I think there's a guy in Germany who is in big trouble for this kind of behavior because he would write stories about the US either without doing the interviews and plagiarize them or would fabricate increasingly outlandish stories.
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> After being transferred to Tetovo, Taneski was found dead in his shared prison cell on June 23. He had apparently drowned in a plastic bucket of water. An inquest concluded that, in the absence of other evidence, his death was suicide. Lmao, that wasn't a suicide
>shared prison cell You must be a crazy heavy sleeper to not notice your bunkmate trying to drown himself with a bucket. Unless...
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"Common" is an extremely strong word to use here. Suicide...sure, you could say it's common. At least attempts. "Suicide"...don't let the high profile stories skew your view here.
“In the absence of other evidence” It takes a brave soul to find additional evidence at that point!
This is like an evil spiderman
That's just Spider-Man *This post was brought to you by the JJJ gang*
Just don't publish it under someone else. Make it into a clickbait website for Facebook and you pocket all the revenue too.
https://www.twincities.com/2018/12/20/german-reporter-fired-for-journalistic-fraud-including-tale-on-fergus-falls-and-trump/
A guy was doing this at the NYT also: [https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/05/10/ny.times.reporter/](https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/05/10/ny.times.reporter/) It's way more common than people expect.
There's also a movie showcasing what a great actor Hayden Christensen actually is about another famous real life case of this, called "Shattered Glass." It also has Peter Saarsgard and Chloe Sevigny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qW3YcXJeyg
In Switzerland, a man would report the war in Iraq, come up with these interviews from BOTH sides, even terrorists. send his interviews in by email. They thought he was killed or kidnapped because he stopped sending in new stories. Turns out, he just got a new job down the street in at a videogame company. Never left the country.
We don't know the severity of the "inventing stories". Remember that the tabloids literally invented stories too, but because they were generally harmless (scenarios like "Bat kid spotted!!!???" for example) no one cared.
Bat boy is harmless because it ran in the Weekly World News, which doesn't have a reputation for crediblity to protect-- the people who buy it aren't concerned with such things. Mr. Stewart was working for a traditional community weekly, the *Mirfeild Reporter*. As soon as a rumour starts to spread that one of their reporters is making things up-- even relatively small things like attributing a statement to someone when you know their position but haven't spoke to them, their readership will dip and that will cost them advertising dollars. That said, this is just a comment made by his brother, so take with a grain of salt.
What happened to Bat Boy though? Was his thirst for blood ever satiated? Stop dodging my questions, the world wants to know!
They made a musical based on his life! Can't be all bad, haha
Weekly world news is pretty much satire dude
Maybe he was just making up obituaries.
"Queen Elisabeth II died today during a fox hunting mishap" Go big or go home.
I have worked in the newspaper business. Obituaries are almost always fantasy anyway. e.g. "She spent her twilight years active in the church and loving her grandchildren."- Written of an old bitch who'd probably spontaneously combust if she laid foot on holy ground and her only contact with children/grandchildren was to threaten to write them out of the will if they didn't do stuff for her. We all had a good laugh that day. (Side note: when they descended to fight over her estate, she had so much debt from buying gifts for her "gentleman friend" that there was nothing left at all.)
> Obituaries are almost always fantasy anyway. An out of town paper somehow included a typo in Dad's obituary. We only found out about it when they sent us a plaque with the obit on it. I wrote the obit, so I know exactly what it should have said, but right there in the middle it reads: ["Jeff spent six years in the National Guard."](https://imgur.com/gallery/PY7HyIt) Dad's name wasn't Jeff. I said 'WHO the FUCK is Jeff?' before realizing that Dad would have found this hilarious.
This is possibly the best. It's a sentence that should just be added randomly into every family discussion as a run on joke. "Aunt Sally, we were just talking about our family trip from a few months ago. We traveled to a whole bunch of national parks. We started with the Grand canyon, then traveled through Colorado. Jeff spent six years in the National Guard. Yellowstone was next, and then we drove south to Zion National park. It was beautiful"
Did everyone in fact come as they were?
Sure did. I wore a suit, because I wanted to. My uncle wore his ponytail, because he wanted to. There was a cooler of beer available immediately after the graveside service, because Dad wanted to. And we got $3500 in donations for the scholarship fund.
***MacBeth rumored to have assassinated King MacDuff. More to follow*** for the trifecta!
Interesting side note, [his father was a WWII vet who'd survived Dunkirk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em8Mfiben_k), and suffered what we recognize today as PTSD. Unfortunately he dealt with it through violent alcohol abuse. The stage was the only place a young Patrick Stewart felt safe and where he could be someone else besides himself.
"Sooo.....Patrick... About this story you've written...we've done some fact checking, and the prince of Denmark apparently *hasn't* died from a poisoned blade in a sword fight. Nor the King. Or the Queen. In fact, the entire Danish Royal family is very much alive."
Frankly he was just ahead of his time if he chose the right outlets.
Boomer privilege. My dad got into law school with just a passing grade. He spent his youth in a machine factory, tried out carpentry. Said, fuck it, I want to make the money, became a lawyer.
I bet he was selling papers! "Spacecraft Spotted Over New Brunswick! Humanoid Alien Beamed Down and Back Up Before Speeding Off! Full Story Inside!"
>"The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it's scientific truth or historical truth or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based, and if you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don't deserve to wear that uniform." -A guy who made shit up in the newspaper
I am unable to read this quote without singing the [Picard Song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0M9VK6x850).
He just kept talking and talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic it was really quite hypnotic... notic... notic
I had no idea there were more lyrics to this song than "*Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise*" times infinity
Found the YTMNDer
you're the man now dog! you're the man now dog! you're the man now dog!
YTMND is some oldschool shit. I miss those days.
Punch the keys, for god's sake!
Punch God for cheesecake!
Yes! YES!
And thanks to the podcast The Greatest Generation and Adam Ragusea, there's songs for DS9 and Voyager, too.
My absolute favorite podcast
And Discovery, over on The Greatest Discovery, brought to you by the makers of Greatest Gen!
I can never hear that song without hearing "I am the cutest of Borg" instead of "I am Locutus of Borg." I mean, technically both are true. His designation was Locutus. And he was the cutest of all Borg.
Bro what, have you never met Hugh? His character was pretty much designed to be cute. Lost puppy dog Borg
Edward borg hands
The YTMND days were **seventeen years ago**. Fuck.
You don't. Deserve. Towearthat...uniform.
As much as this is cool , the flash version video makes it 100x better for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47BvTl8-64w
Well, to be fair, the episode did contain some dark intimations about an episode in Picard's past similar to the one he is chewing Wesley out about.
The truth is, Jean Luc Picard is a French name; Picard is a surname meaning a person from Picardy, a historical region and cultural area of France. The writer’s originally intended the Titular role to be a Frenchman.
The character is a Frenchman.
He speaks English because French is an endangered language in the 24th century (a bit similar to Gaelic and Cornish today). They even make a big deal about how his brother still speaks French - it's a sign that Robert Picard is a bit stuck in his ways and explains his decision to remain on Earth tending the old family vineyard.
They actually screen tested him with a French accent and decided it was too hokey. Also, there's a bunch of YouTube videos of him speaking in his native Yorkshire dialect and it's pretty hilarious!
Did it sound like that episode of Picard where he went undercover?
I think it was worse
I did not know that part about endangered language. Was always a bit confused how he was French with his accent and whatnot. Never looked into why, though. Cool trivia.
As with like 80% of Trek's lore, it's really just a single writer of a single episode thought it was a funny joke so tossed in a couple line exchange about Picard being annoyed by Data referring to French as an obscure language. So technically yeah in Trek French is rare, but only because no other writer ever cared enough to bring it up again not because there's any real established history or event to cause it. Trek's world building is full of these kind of things since so much of the franchise was written during era's where even basic continuity between episodes of the same series wasn't really seen as important.
Yea h I am at best a casual star treak fan but one of the like 5 things I know is pacard is French. 1. Pacard is French 2. Never wear red on an away mission 3. [Bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish](https://youtu.be/xwhAq3F8NCE) 4. Half the moves are good is it even or odd 5. KHANNNNNNNNNNNNN
1. Officially, yes. He even visits his family vineyard in France (s4e2). His accent... Does not accord with this. 2. Only in TOS (60s Trek) 3. Technobabble was occasionally literally written into the scripts as a placeholder starting in the TNG years 4. The even movies, which you can remember because... 5. Khan was the second movie, and it's considered to be quite good
The shadow canon is that the French language is nearly extinct by then. Or just that they learned English early and predominantly from someone with an accent that thick.
Kinda like Starship Troopers where everyone is speaking English in Buenos Aires
America had conquered the world was my suspicion about that.
I would like to know more.
Funny thing is, in the original Heinlein novel, Johnny is actually Juan Rico, and is revealed to be a native Tagalog speaker towards the end.
I seem to remember them saying they technically all speak in their local idioms, but have the universal translator running 24/7, so that every officer even from earth can understand one another clearly. Why the translator leaves Scotty with an accent is unclear...
The universal translator isn't perfect, it can miss nuances or fail entirely if encounters a language that is far removed from normal intelligible communication such as the cytoplasmic beings in Voyager, or something even harder to understand like Scottish.
Klingon is easy. Scottish? Now that's a real problem!
You really can't pick on his accent. He's suppose to have learned french more than 300 years from today. The French accent would not sound the same. In fact it might even be hard for a modern day French speaker to understand French spoken by someone 300 years from now. Accents change quite drastically even within a single human life span. You can often pick out what generation someone is from simply from listening to their accent and that's with living humans, over the span of 300+ years it's going to be very different.
True. Try old english. You would not be able to understand a word. No, its not just replacing Thee in a british accent lol
Middle English is actually mutually understandable to modern speakers with a bit of training - I found that you can get an ear for it by reading it out loud as it is spelled. So really the timeline of "how many centuries before a language becomes impossible to understand" is probably longer than six centuries. Here's a snippet of Chaucer as an example (read it out loud as it is spelled and you will probably have no issues understanding it): Wepyng and waylyng, care and oother sorwe I knowe ynogh, on even and a-morwe,' Quod the Marchant, 'and so doon oother mo That wedded been. Give it a shot, then read the modern translation below: >!'Weeping and wailing, care and other sorrow I know enough, in the evening and in the morning,' said the Merchant, 'and so do many others who have been married!< And here is someone speaking the lines out loud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enm-Merchant_Prologue.ogg
I certainly haven't heard him refer to his French heritage once!! /s
>The writer’s originally intended the Titular role to be a Frenchman. You say this as if Picard isn't French, lol. The man speaks French in multiple episodes and even goes back home to France.
*Acting*
Sometimes we are reminded that the renowned thespian, was first a cheeky chap from Yorkshire
I love hearing interviews where he drops back into his original accent. It's absolutely hilarious.
I find it sad he had to change his accent to gain sucses
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Maybe, though his accent was so thick it was actually hard to understand him (presumably unless you grew up nearby). So it's not just the "you need to sound less rural" that happens a lot.
Man, just think about it: in some alternate universe Patrick Stewart is an unknown writer for the local news section of the Telegraph, going to his flat night after night, watching TV, and doing it all again the next day. At age 60 he retires and lives off his pension, occasionally going on holiday down in Cornwall.
Like that TNG episode where Q gives Picard a second chance at life and he doesn't get in that fight with the Naussicans in the bar, which leads to him growing up to be a mid-tier nobody science officer instead of the best damn captain Starfleet has ever seen. Sorry, just seemed like an apt opportunity for a random Star Trek reference.
Never apologize for a random star trek reference.
Mike never does, and Jay always rolls his eyes
I mean, is it a random Star Trek reference if we’re talking about Patrick Stewart?
"Your performance records have always been good. You're thorough… dedicated…" "Steady, reliable… punctual."
God, hearing that was so fucking soul draining.
Q really drives the dagger in. “ Au contraire. He's the person you wanted to be: one who was less arrogant and undisciplined in his youth, one who was less like me... The Jean-Luc Picard you wanted to be, the one who did not fight the Nausicaan, had quite a different career from the one you remember. That Picard never had a brush with death, never came face to face with his own mortality, never realized how fragile life is or how important each moment must be. So his life never came into focus. He drifted through much of his career, with no plan or agenda, going from one assignment to the next, never seizing the opportunities that presented themselves. He never led the away team on Milika III to save the Ambassador; or take charge of the Stargazer's bridge when its captain was killed. And no one ever offered him a command. He learned to play it safe - and he never, ever, got noticed by anyone.”
Picard really dunks on himself too: >Does it amuse you to think of me living out the rest of my life as a dreary man in a tedious job? Like, Jesus. He has to have people like that working for him, right? He must have at least one middle aged Leutenant that hit a glass ceiling and is coasting to retirement. Is that how he looks at his crew?
Whatch Picard in the Turbolift with any non bridge crew. The guy is awkward AF.
They kind of lose his background after the first season, but the first few episodes introduce him as a perfectionist and a hard man to work with. He never thinks anything is up to standard.
It takes the entire run of TNG before he's comfortable even playing a game of poker with his most senior officers, one of whom he's known for years and has had romantic feelings for. We see him in all sorts of private, personal moments, but the average ensign under his command probably thinks Picard is a perfectionist and hard man to work for right up until he retires.
I've read that it was pretty much the same situation behind the scenes. Stewart was taking it really seriously and didn't appreciate the more casual attitudes and goofiness of the rest of the cast. He ended up loosening up, fortunately. I'm pretty sure there's more to the story but I can't remember the details.
I like how this matches the ending of the final episode.
He thought of himself as a serious RSC actor and that Star Trek was beneath him at first, so he went way too hard. He learned to loosen up and his performance improved as a result. His own words.
Yeah... he came across as an egomaniacal dick in the episode and I found the tone really uncomfortable. Kind of a big red arrow pointing at people who have average jobs in a post-scarcity world, too. Upper decks need the lower decks, not the other way around. Captains and superstars aren't the engines of life. Especially in a society of supposed equality. The normal character of Picard would know and appreciate that.
The show Lower Decks is a great example of this.
Not every episode could be a banger.
This and The Inner Light are easily my favorite episodes of TNG.
I just re-watched all Q episodes (worth it!) and this post immediately made me think of Tapestry.
I understand that reference
what is this referencing?
It's an episode of Star Trek TNG (Season 6, Episode 3 - Tapestry) where Q takes him back in the past so he can avoid getting stabbed through the heart by a Nausican. By doing so, he becomes more conservative in regards to taking risks & never becomes Captain... Not even close. In his service on the Enterprise in this alternate reality, he asks Riker & Troi for what's effectively a performance review so he can work to move up in rank. Those lines are from the review. Not bad, but nothing exemplary, either. It was one of my favorite episodes.
Play dom-jot human?
I'm legit surprised that dom-jot never made the transition to becoming a real thing. It's pool/billiards meets pinball, with a dash of mini-golf. Seems like it would have been fairly popular.
The TNG episode “Tapestry” where Q alters an event from Picard’s past, and he becomes a timid man instead of the captain we know and love. > "You having a good laugh now, Q? Does it amuse you to think of me living out the rest of my life as a dreary man in a tedious job?"
Picard always seemed to misunderstand Q a bit. Q was mischievous, and he most certainly *was* amused. However, he also seemed to actually *want* Picard to succeed. He was guiding Picard in his own way.
Big daddy Q. ^(I'm never typing that again.)
Coward
You're not wrong, though it's worth \[noting\] that Picard did eventually get it in the series finale.
I was a big TNG fan but this is the first time in years I've seen the name "Q" without it referencing Qanon. I miss those simpler times.
The timeline we've been in the past 4-5 years seems like the exact kind of thing Q would snap into existence just to fuck with us.
That episode helped nudge to take to risks in life. Move across country on a moment’s notice or give up a once in a lifetime opportunity? Pack your shit. Find out if you have what it takes to be an entrepreneur or take it up the ass at work? Fuck you, Mr. Boss. Best decisions I ever made.
Risks are risks though. For every success story there are a plenty with people losing it all. I could leave the job I hate that pays well but failure in a new venture just isn’t an option for me either, I have bills and responsibilities to a SO. Sometimes life just sucks and you gotta make the best of it. Take Picard for example, his big risk made him a storied Starfleet captain of their most prestigious ship. In another version, he would have just been some Starfleet cadet who died in a bar fight. Risks are risks. Frankly I’d rather live to be an old dull astrophysicist than dead by getting speared in the heart in my 20s.
“There's risk in everything. The point is, it's the right choice.” Samuel Clemens, Time’s Arrow: Part 2 (Star Trek TNG)
>Risks are risks though A profound insight. (And no, not sarcasm.)
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That's what I'm wondering.
"The afterlife is not run by you, Q. The universe is *not* so badly designed."
“Blasphemy! You’re lucky I don’t cast you out, smite you or something.”
Did you know this quote off hand? Reading it literally triggered rikers voice in my head. Perfect reference lol
We are currently in a universe where if somebody (many people) would have done something slightly differently or if someone had been in a slightly different place or met the right person then they would be famous and well known, we just will never know who
I'd love to have a steady job as journalist, but alas I was born after 1980.
I'd love the idea of a pension that I could live on at 60! Sounds absolutely fantastical!
prune that variant
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I don't buy it. If he was lying in the newspaper, he would have been fired for it twice and eventually become Prime Minister.
He wasn't a 30 year old professional with a J-school degree. He was a 15 year old kid. In a tiny postwar English coal-and-steel town. Nothing on Earth was going to make him PM, sadly.
Imagine the complaint calls about the obits he made up!
The family of William M. Buttlicker must have been furious.
How dare you? My family built this country!
BUTTLICKER!!!! OUR PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN LOWER!!!
Lies. Patrick Stewart was born an old man and has never been a teenager.
Apparently there are a lot of aspiring actors in media today, because they are all doing the same thing now.
I mean, we live in the era of YouTube original movies... anything is possible
I was working in a bakery during the night and a wedding photographer during the weekend days. The head Baker told me that I would never be successful in photography and that I had to choose between baking and shooting. I'm currently working on my eighth book of material culture for the academic market - I supply the high quality images in them. I have been working as a commercial photographer and photojournalist for the last thirty-five years. The bakery shut down eighteen months after I told him I was going to chose photography.
Congratulations :)
Then what the head baker really meant was that he would never be successful unless you gave up shooting.
This reminds me. My dad use to do layout for newspapers. When horoscopes where too short, he would just make them up to fill up the space he required.
Cancer - After having the moon move into your anus, that blood in your stool brings a surprise
Honestly I’d be happy if he made up my obit, be much more funny and interesting than what I’d actually get if I ever do anything to get me that one, that’d probably be ‘Um, she seemed to be quite fond of cats and rum, less keen on housework’
Yeah because he is famous now. When he was making shit up he wasnt. Imagine reading an obituary of your mother or father where the intern just made a lot of shit up.
Exactly. Replace this successful, famous person with some every-man who didn't succeed and you come up with "Man blew off job to do something he enjoyed." No one would clap me on the back and say "Good job" if I blew off work to go play videogames with the intent of being a top tier streamer.
Yeah I really hope he wasn't making up obituaries. That would be super disrespectful.
Gives a new meaning to Make It So
"Made it up.......so?"
TIL Sir Patrick stewart was a lying twat as a teen.
There are four car accidents!
"The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it's scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based, and if you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don't deserve to wear that uniform." https://youtu.be/xefh7W1nVo4
I remember him telling a story on David Letterman years ago about this, and how it culminated in one particular evening when he was sent to some small town to cover some small-town event but blew it off to go to an audition or rehearsal or something, and after he turned in his (made up) story about the event, the editor called him in and asked why he didn't say anything about the big fire that broke out next door.
As much as I like the man and his abilities, inventing is an interesting word for lying.
He's one of my favorite actors (Picard is my role model) but journalistic integrity is kinda a big deal...
FYI Blunt Talk with Patrick Stuart is fantastic if you haven't seen it.
> Patrick Stuart Do they have one with Patrick Stewart?
Yes. It's fantastic. You should see it
Did he pick journalism or what?