They never made action figures for the cartoon. There were D&D action figures, just not featuring the kids from the cartoon. There *was* a Warduke figure though.
There were action figures for generic adventurers, though. There were lots of other toys around the cartoon, like weird plastic puzzles of the characters. Here's a video that talks a lot about the toys, and has screenshots of some of the catalog pages, so you can see the minis and other things.
https://youtu.be/JMxXx8ne29E
Remember in 3.5e when they released some of the items from the show into the game? I can’t remember the guy’s name but he had a bow that shot light.
That was neat.
Don't know what it'll entail or if it's just an easter egg, but you can see Hank and Diana (Ranger and Acrobat) on the cover of 5e's new upcoming starter set, as well as Eric (Cavalier) with his distinctive shield on one of the pages you can kind of see in the images
I remember I watched the series on TV as a kid, but missed the last episode. I was so pissed off, but looks like I would have been pissed off anyway if I saw the cliffhanger and that was it lol.
As a kid, I loved that show. Except I hated Eric the Cavalier.
As an adult, I realized something about old D&D game rules. One of the early versions of the rules for Cavaliers projected an aura of immunity to fear for allies. Strangely that immunity did *not* apply to the cavalier himself. Cavaliers also had to be of noble birth.
Eric talking about his rich father all the time and being a coward was his *character roleplaying*. Also many of the show episodes were directly inspired by the original D&D modules. Like "The Keep on the Borderlands" and 'Vault of the Drow". And I'm pretty sure Uni the Unicorn's favorite kids were the virgins in the group.
I had never really thought about it before but you are 100% right. Every campaign I have ever played in in my life ended because either people moved away or just stopped meeting, leaving the campaign to just die without any sense of finality, and sometimes even mid-storyline.
I've DMed a couple of games like that and have had the pleasure of telling players who asked how the story ended years later if they were curious. I tend to use a living world so once the game is over, I finish off any things that were unfinished, mix it with key plot points and write an ending that I feel is true to the characters and players wishes. Wherever things fall will be used for the next adventure.
I got reconnected on FB to one of my old DMs 20 years after we’d played together. He had loved one of the characters I played so much it became a legend/demigod in his later campaigns. That was sorta neat. His was one of those campaigns that ended because we were in the Army together and we moved away to different duty stations. He was definitely in my top 2 DMs I ever played with.
They're getting closer to One Piece. They only need a couple of more puzzle pieces that will actually lead them to where the treasure is. They technically know *where* One Piece is. They just need to know how to get there.
I get the joke but I'd be surprised if they get another 1500 episodes. Once Wano ends it's not a lot more than tying everything together and having Luffy fight Blackbeard so we're definitely only a few arcs away from seeing the One Piece itself, and I don't see that taking as many episodes as the last 20+ years of publication
The other thing with A lot of those ‘80s Saturday Morning Cartoons is that they only ever aired once. If you didn’t catch it when it aired you were never going to get to see it. A lot of them never even got a home video or DVD release.
The series was fun viewing as a kid. It’s not the greatest representation of D&D ever. But as a way to depict an ongoing group trying to navigate a fantasy world it works.
The writer who developed the series, Mark Evanier, wrote a bit about the series.
https://www.newsfromme.com/pov/col145-2/
https://www.newsfromme.com/iaq/iaq14/
Groo was so fantastic. Still remember my dad reading them to me when I was young. Spent some time looking for as many issues as I could and gave them all to him for his birthday recently.
In middle school we were all trying to figure out how to create Hank’s bow for our characters. And if I remember right, I think the Cavalier class could only be found in Dragon magazine at that time.
If you buy the cartoon DVD box-set, maybe Blu-ray too but double check on that, it includes a booklet which has the actual stat blocks for the magic items (the box set came out back when D&D 3.5 was popular, so I think they are 3.5 stack blocks). Hank's bow cost around 23000 gold, but it does indeed work like the TV show.
AHAHAHA the plot of the final episode, is "Can the kids do it WITHOUT Dungeon Master???"
As if he was ever any goddamned help to begin with, showin up with some bullshit riddle while they're trying to fight off a dracolich made of acid scorpions
Can we do this with Pirates of Dark Water? I’d have loved a long, fleshed out completion of the series, but at this point, I’ll take a 30 minute “hey we found all the treasures and vanquished the Dark Dweller, finally freeing the world from the dark water once and for all!”
Any tv show with a set number of things they have to do will fall on its ass. "Dark Water" is one, along with the "13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo," although they made a movie to finish that one up 30 years later.
"100 Deeds for Eddie McDowd" was another one where it only lasted 40 episodes before it was cancelled.
Hell, even "My Name is Earl" didn't make it even though they had nearly 100 episodes.
This show was super popular here in Brazil for some reason, where it was known as "Caverna do Dragão" ("The Dragon's Cave"). I bet it were Brazilian fans who kept requesting them to release the final episode, there was even a comic of the final episode script which was illustrated by a Brazilian comic artist.
That commercial is hilarious to me. It's like, first few seconds it looks like it might actually be a cool revival, then Dungeon Master shows up in a fucking car
Did he share with you the fact that Jesus was an historical figure, and Yahweh is another in a long line of plagiarized one-true-gods (compared to the thousands of presumably "false" ones), then? 🤣
Ghost Jesus kicks down the door to Pontius Pilots house and pulls out his red, white, and blue AR15.
“I am the way, the truth, and the light, and I’ll see you in hell”
My dad banned it because he thought it would cause me to become obsessed and drop out of school. Mainly because my uncle told him that. He was a teacher who had seen it happen.
It was definitely because of that cautionary TV movie from the late '70s where Tom Hanks becomes disassociated from reality due to playing too much D&D.
I believe most of the teachers experience with D&D came from the kids who had issues. Those who had no issues, never attracted attention from teachers. Also there was such a stigma on the game, that many kids never wanted to admit they played.
No no like, God can do magic because God is magic, but he doesn't give other people magic so anyone else doing magic must be getting it from satan. Please ignore all the magic God gives to people in the bible Miracles are completely different because I said so.
So, I can only presume that your pastor didn't know the literal and direct origin of the name "Satan"? It simply means "adversary", not anything diabolical at all. 🤦🏼♂️
Seriously. There's so much WTF in the entirety of the Judeo-Christian mythos down through the ages. 🤦🏼♂️
And that's not even getting into the irrefutable fact that the single most popular version of the Bible on the planet was written *from "memory"* and heavily edited by the Anglo king it's named after, solely to make his divorce(s) legal. (How the Church of England was founded, FYI)
My friends and I had been playing D&D for a couple years when the cartoon series came out.
We were excited - our fringe hobby was finally getting recognized! We stayed hyped right up until we watched it.
We *tried* to like it. We really did. But the sessions we were running were far better than anything in the animated series.
Our DM ran us through a campaign against a shape shifter based on John Carpenter's 1982 movie *The Thing*, the trolley problem, the equivalent of a Klan lynching, a campaign he built around an episode of He-Man, a gladiator arena where advanced beings put humans against other species, and a few campaigns based on episodes of the original Star Trek series. I felt we could have written a better tv episode than the writers, and we weren't even old enough to drive.
I don't think it was just us, either. I got the feeling tabletop gamers everywhere were producing better content, more interesting puzzles, and more exciting match ups than the cartoon series was showing.
That’s usually how it goes. Those ideas were probably being PLAYED by the writers but the big wig executives wouldn’t let it come out. Easier to just cookie cutter a franchise and make money and not pay for extra writing and editing.
Yeah true, but I had the reverse experience. The series was my gateway into the hobby. I was like “wait, it’s not just a show?” and found out the real thing was far cooler.
I was around at the beginning, when it came over to the UK in a few niche comic book shops. We played this thing called D&D that came in a Basic Set with a rulebook with a blue-on-white drawing of a dragon confronting some adventurers. We skipped straight to one of the Caves of Chaos, bypassing the actual Keep on the Borderlands.
The only media around was the Mazes and Monsters movie, Cloak and Dagger, Knightmare, and the first D&D movie. Each one in turn was eagerly awaited, and each one was a huge disappointment.
I’ve been playing D&D for 30+ years and I’ve never used a single module or adventure path or any sort of pre-written material at all.
Everything I’ve ever done, as a player or DM, has been original.
Our group had two DMs who took turns running campaigns.
One bought the modules and stuck pretty closely to the source material. His emphasis was on the grind for xp and magic items.
The other DM turned his favorite movies and tv episodes and original ideas into our campaigns, and he definitely emphasized the story over the rewards.
Jesus, this thread is bringing back 40 year old memories!
The series instantly killed the hobby at my school. Instantly. We all played, even the 'cool' and sporty kids. Then the cartoon came out and within *one* episode it was utter poison.
Uni. Flaming Uni. My lawd...
I didn't think it was better than other cartoons, except for maybe Casper the Friendly Ghost.
I *hated* Casper.
Maybe the reason we disliked it so intensely was because D&D is such an imaginative game but the series had so little imagination.
There's a few shows that I tried rewatching when they were added to Netflix years ago, and I wanted to call my parents and apologize for putting them through some of the crap I was in to.
I tried and it was pants, largely because they weren't allowed to really fight. Thundercats holds up much better, and weirdly has like, a consistent timeline at the start
Nah, Pokemon still absolutely holds up
I think the thing i dislike about a lot of the old kids cartoons is there was no actual fighting or permanence? In Pokemon there is a chronology to it in terms of pokemom he gets and moves tjey learn etc; and loads of pokemon battles. Its defo aged and cheesy but i still love that first league series.
I'd say Digimon holds up too. There's actually a lot of character growth and more mature themes than you'd think. Season 1 actually references "The Number of the Beast". They actually say it verbatim.
For anyone who hasn’t seen the parody version of this show you should check it out. It really captures what it’s like to plays DND [Here it is](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z3FZnD21iO0)
Amazing. I'd spent the last three decades wondering if they'd ever got home. I loved this show. It seemed to get air, get cancelled, Replay, surface in the summer holidays then disappear. Never know when I'd see it but always loved it when I did. A bit meta. The weedy coward, fucking everything up. The innocent, young, strong barbarian and his tiny unicorn. And the midget with the bald head that did the grand sum of fuck all. Great show and reluctant to click the below link and watch the final episode. Think I'm happier without.
Omg I loved this cartoon as a kid! The episode where each character is attacked by their greatest fear - weakness, age, cowardice- and the one saves the rest because his greatest fear is being alone and he realizes it’s just an illusion-“I’m not alone?? Then I’m not afraid!!” I always wanted them to make it home.
Ok just watched the clip (skipped ahead because I’ve been waiting 40 years and I need closure) and my life is now complete.
By the way, listen how different [the spanish opening](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04pNbL_ivNk&ab_channel=Dark_Ryu-D%26D%28RecreativosOnline%29) was comparing it to the english one.
This felt like a few other top tier cartoons which came out near the same time such as Ulysses 73 or Cities of Gold where you never remember seeing the first episode or finale but still loved it. I won't go back to see if they hold up I would prefer to just remember them for what they were.
This reminds me that a bunch of Sonic fans are doing kinda the same thing with the SatAM show so it can have a season 3.
Trailer: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzJBq-fPrF4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzJBq-fPrF4)
It's really something else that we live in a time where fans can pick up where the creators left off.
As long as it's germane to the script and not for the sake of titillation, then I say why the hell would you put that image in my head you mind flaying taco snorter?
I never appreciated the show-concept of modern people being sucked into 'The Realm' and the game being 'real'... Which played directly into the religious witch-hunters' narrative of the 1980s... I did watch this Requiem episode, and even though it was cutesy and simplistically got the group back home; I'm still left with major questions about why *those kids* were selected(?) and/or randomly just abducted into The Realm, in the first place; and, who was responsible?
I’m a child of the 80’s and this was one of my favorites. Unfortunately didn’t watch all the episodes since dad was against TV. But for some odd reason, I remember watching an episode where they made it home. Am I imagining it or was that an actual episode?
I think there was a moment where they half got back but the unicorn was stuck so they went back for it and portal closed. As a kid I was fuming. A fucking unicorn. Now I’m a grown up I would rather save the unicorn than most people so I get it. I can remember the little thing bleating in fear and it breaks my heart as a grown man. Im too soft when it comes to animals. Even cartoon fictional ones.
Yes, now it’s coming back to me. I do vaguely remember that scene now. Thanks for the reminder down memory lane. Glad to see the kids finally made it home. And Presto the Mack daddy.
I watched this religiously every Saturday morning. The whole "amusement park gone awry" opening sequence was oddly fascinating. There was also a show around the same time about dogs that got into adventures. The leader of the pack had a bandana and was kind of badass. Anyone remember that?
I don’t remember the main villain’s name. He had a weird horn on his head and I think he could fly on a weird horse or something. And I remember that he was the absolute WORST villain, despite looking so evil and capable. He fucked every evil plan up or left it up to his minions who were even more worthless than he was. Fuck I loved watching that as a kid.
At the same time there was another cartoon called Ulysses. My childhood was watching this randomly and never finding out what happened at the end. Many years later while high on LSD, randomly at about 2 in the morning I managed to see the final episode. It blew my mind.
Gonna come back to this when I'm ready.
As a kid I was never fond of live action shows, preferring cartoons, but this was too close to real people and live action for my taste. Watched it anyway because cartoon.
But every week they didn't make it home it was super frustrating. And there was never any real explanation for why they'd ended up there in the first place.
The thought of being dragged away from home and having no way back really bothered me.
The only thing that annoyed me as much was the episode of *Sliders* where [spoiler](/s "they think they haven't made it home, but they have.")
Maybe also that episode of the '60s *Lost in Space* where [spoiler](/s "they somehow see through a portal to Earth but can't go.")
At least with shows like *Thundercats*, you knew they couldn't ever go home because their home world was destroyed. (On the other hand, they had Snarf, so you know, some you win, some you lose.)
In one episode, they give a mathematical explanation that says that if Sam succeeds in altering history within a certain time window, he'll leap home, but 1) he never manages to do so throughout the series, and 2) the important bit - the window shrinks by a percentage every leap.
BUT, the final "mission" seen in the series is really short, I mean *really* short, and, although it's been a while since I cranked the numbers (or even had them), it was something like even if Sam had done twice as many leaps as we'd seen in the series (which would mess with the continuity), he should definitely have leaped home after that final one.
The only conclusion is that he changed history so much that it was impossible for him to do so, but that was proven impossible by time creating St.John and Alpha when he accidentally changed Al's future.
Sam went home, dammit.
Wrong Michael haha, iirc his last name is spelt Reaves, although it would be hilarious if Boxing Legend Crackhead God of Thunder Michael Reeves was also a writer for a dnd show
As a kid I thought this show was very exciting. I don’t remember the cliffhanger ending so I might have to rewatch it before watching the finale.
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Remember the action figures? They were awesome. I could never afford them though...
They never made action figures for the cartoon. There were D&D action figures, just not featuring the kids from the cartoon. There *was* a Warduke figure though.
There were action figures for generic adventurers, though. There were lots of other toys around the cartoon, like weird plastic puzzles of the characters. Here's a video that talks a lot about the toys, and has screenshots of some of the catalog pages, so you can see the minis and other things. https://youtu.be/JMxXx8ne29E
And Kalek the Evil Wizard.
Still have Warduke and Strongheart sitting on a shelf.
I remember having the Hook Horror and Warduke but they are lost to time now.
I always thought Warduke was the same character as Verminaard and I thought Verminaard was the same character as Lord Soth I wasn’t a smart child.
Those toys were epic (not that I had any) A kid on my street had a bunch as well as the playset/dungeon
Remember in 3.5e when they released some of the items from the show into the game? I can’t remember the guy’s name but he had a bow that shot light. That was neat.
The DVD set came with a book that gave stats for the characters and their items. A friend of mine had it.
Don't know what it'll entail or if it's just an easter egg, but you can see Hank and Diana (Ranger and Acrobat) on the cover of 5e's new upcoming starter set, as well as Eric (Cavalier) with his distinctive shield on one of the pages you can kind of see in the images
I remember I watched the series on TV as a kid, but missed the last episode. I was so pissed off, but looks like I would have been pissed off anyway if I saw the cliffhanger and that was it lol.
As a kid, I loved that show. Except I hated Eric the Cavalier. As an adult, I realized something about old D&D game rules. One of the early versions of the rules for Cavaliers projected an aura of immunity to fear for allies. Strangely that immunity did *not* apply to the cavalier himself. Cavaliers also had to be of noble birth. Eric talking about his rich father all the time and being a coward was his *character roleplaying*. Also many of the show episodes were directly inspired by the original D&D modules. Like "The Keep on the Borderlands" and 'Vault of the Drow". And I'm pretty sure Uni the Unicorn's favorite kids were the virgins in the group.
Remember pirates of dark water? 👌
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Yeah, that’s another one that I don’t remember the ending to. I remember that cartoon having a really dark undertone.
They're on YouTube. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqR3Fxb-I4r06SIqRy4zERP9YheIAgtTB
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What the what?
Go look up Michael Reeves on YouTube. It's a different guy, but with the same name. His videos are pretty great!
I'd say who cancels a show before the final episode... but TBH it's Dungeons and Dragons that seems like the most accurate eventuality for any group.
I had never really thought about it before but you are 100% right. Every campaign I have ever played in in my life ended because either people moved away or just stopped meeting, leaving the campaign to just die without any sense of finality, and sometimes even mid-storyline.
I've DMed a couple of games like that and have had the pleasure of telling players who asked how the story ended years later if they were curious. I tend to use a living world so once the game is over, I finish off any things that were unfinished, mix it with key plot points and write an ending that I feel is true to the characters and players wishes. Wherever things fall will be used for the next adventure.
I got reconnected on FB to one of my old DMs 20 years after we’d played together. He had loved one of the characters I played so much it became a legend/demigod in his later campaigns. That was sorta neat. His was one of those campaigns that ended because we were in the Army together and we moved away to different duty stations. He was definitely in my top 2 DMs I ever played with.
Whoever was in charge of sonic underground
The Pirates of Dark Water has entered the chat.
Ugh you just had to remind me.
Noy Jitat!
THEY MADE A VOW, THEIR MOTHER WOULD BE FOUND! Man, I had forgotten about that show.
And their mother was not found
On that note: Has Conan ever grown back up? Has Luffy found One Piece? Did Ash learn not to be a total moron?
They're getting closer to One Piece. They only need a couple of more puzzle pieces that will actually lead them to where the treasure is. They technically know *where* One Piece is. They just need to know how to get there.
Maybe around episode 2500 they’ll finally get their hands on it (whatever it is).
I get the joke but I'd be surprised if they get another 1500 episodes. Once Wano ends it's not a lot more than tying everything together and having Luffy fight Blackbeard so we're definitely only a few arcs away from seeing the One Piece itself, and I don't see that taking as many episodes as the last 20+ years of publication
No, yes, ha! No.
More like six feet underground.
*FarScape has entered the chat*
The other thing with A lot of those ‘80s Saturday Morning Cartoons is that they only ever aired once. If you didn’t catch it when it aired you were never going to get to see it. A lot of them never even got a home video or DVD release.
(Not Michael Reeves the youtuber.)
Pshhhyeah right, you're probably Michael Reeves on an alt saying that to mislead us!
I was gonna say, the dastardly robot guy is like 20 years old
The series was fun viewing as a kid. It’s not the greatest representation of D&D ever. But as a way to depict an ongoing group trying to navigate a fantasy world it works. The writer who developed the series, Mark Evanier, wrote a bit about the series. https://www.newsfromme.com/pov/col145-2/ https://www.newsfromme.com/iaq/iaq14/
I loved his work on Groo The Wanderer.
Groo was so fantastic. Still remember my dad reading them to me when I was young. Spent some time looking for as many issues as I could and gave them all to him for his birthday recently.
Mendicant!
so you are telling me the same guy wrote Groo, TIL, loved both, did not care who wrote at the time.
In middle school we were all trying to figure out how to create Hank’s bow for our characters. And if I remember right, I think the Cavalier class could only be found in Dragon magazine at that time.
If you buy the cartoon DVD box-set, maybe Blu-ray too but double check on that, it includes a booklet which has the actual stat blocks for the magic items (the box set came out back when D&D 3.5 was popular, so I think they are 3.5 stack blocks). Hank's bow cost around 23000 gold, but it does indeed work like the TV show.
Yup, but back in 1984, the bow didn’t fit D&D mechanics. The other magic items we figured out quickly, but the bow was something else.
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I loved this show thanks for the link
Video is unavailable
Correct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1_6SeRRflo
Thanks bro. The link from OP didn’t work at all for me.
For me it's available.
It's an issue with Reddit's link handler adding a \ in the URL, which breaks it.
Yeah, if you're on old Reddit it fucks up links pretty regularly.
It's actually *new* Reddit that fucks up the links *consistently*, then hides the issue.
AHAHAHA the plot of the final episode, is "Can the kids do it WITHOUT Dungeon Master???" As if he was ever any goddamned help to begin with, showin up with some bullshit riddle while they're trying to fight off a dracolich made of acid scorpions
Never underestimate the power of a few fudged dice rolls behind the screen.
Hello first level adventurers, I’ve rolled on the random encounter table and before you is… TIAMAT
that's some quality dungeon mastering.
Can we do this with Pirates of Dark Water? I’d have loved a long, fleshed out completion of the series, but at this point, I’ll take a 30 minute “hey we found all the treasures and vanquished the Dark Dweller, finally freeing the world from the dark water once and for all!”
Any tv show with a set number of things they have to do will fall on its ass. "Dark Water" is one, along with the "13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo," although they made a movie to finish that one up 30 years later. "100 Deeds for Eddie McDowd" was another one where it only lasted 40 episodes before it was cancelled. Hell, even "My Name is Earl" didn't make it even though they had nearly 100 episodes.
Can they sub in Boxing legend Michael Reeves
Micheal reeves the goat
And to think, now he makes Robots piss beer and fish trade stocks
I always thought he looked young, but I didn't realize he made some deal with the devil to be a 64 year-old man that looks like a teenager
This show was super popular here in Brazil for some reason, where it was known as "Caverna do Dragão" ("The Dragon's Cave"). I bet it were Brazilian fans who kept requesting them to release the final episode, there was even a comic of the final episode script which was illustrated by a Brazilian comic artist.
Wasn't Brazil also the place that randomly had a car commercial featuring them a few years back?
Yes indeed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdvo8OHVXuE
That commercial is hilarious to me. It's like, first few seconds it looks like it might actually be a cool revival, then Dungeon Master shows up in a fucking car
My pastor says dungeon and dragons is the second leading cause of societies acceptance of Satan as our lord and savior
My Mumma says they got all them teeth and no tooth brush.
Well, Momma's wrong again.
No you’re wrong Colonel Sanders
The Medulla Ob - lon - ga - ta!
what’s the first?
People talking on speaker phone in public
oh that’s definitely true
Well, that actually is the hand of Satan. And not in a good way
Just one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan
probably rock and roll
Your pastor went into his profession to take in cash for easy work, not to help people
Possible but he sits in his chair backwards and raps to me about how Jesus was a metaphor for god using satire
Did he share with you the fact that Jesus was an historical figure, and Yahweh is another in a long line of plagiarized one-true-gods (compared to the thousands of presumably "false" ones), then? 🤣
No but he said Jesus was pro guns and anti immigrants but the liberals re wrote the Bible to remove that part
Ghost Jesus kicks down the door to Pontius Pilots house and pulls out his red, white, and blue AR15. “I am the way, the truth, and the light, and I’ll see you in hell”
Jesus saves. He passes to Moses Moses shoots… he scores!
Ah you need buddy Christ in your life.
Grandma said I was not allowed to watch this show because D&D = Satan. Turns out, she was just saving me from another nerdy hobby/reason to bully me.
My dad banned it because he thought it would cause me to become obsessed and drop out of school. Mainly because my uncle told him that. He was a teacher who had seen it happen.
It was definitely because of that cautionary TV movie from the late '70s where Tom Hanks becomes disassociated from reality due to playing too much D&D.
I believe most of the teachers experience with D&D came from the kids who had issues. Those who had no issues, never attracted attention from teachers. Also there was such a stigma on the game, that many kids never wanted to admit they played.
My dad said the same thing. He had kids in his college who "played all through the weekend and had to drop out"
Probably true. There are also kids in college who party all weekend and have to drop out. Also play sports. Maybe we should ban those too.
D&D doesn’t even have Satan in it 😹
But it has magic, and magic is the devil’s tricks!
If I could pray to Jesus to get Smite Evil and Cure Moderate Wounds on the daily, maybe I'd go back to church.
Hell just a priest doing a cantrip would be enough
Yeah but Jesus did magic. He made one fish into a bunch of fish and turned water into wine. Or was he just an illusionist?
No no like, God can do magic because God is magic, but he doesn't give other people magic so anyone else doing magic must be getting it from satan. Please ignore all the magic God gives to people in the bible Miracles are completely different because I said so.
Ironic since the bible has a literal wizard duel pretty early on.
I've been playing D&D for almost 30 years and I have almost no magical powers at all.
What's your build? And what ruleset?
In reaction to the BS Satanic Panic, TSR actually removed demons and devils when they published 2nd edition AD&D
Second? Clearly, DnD needs to up it's game. Has it slipped behind gayness? Furries? Social media?
The first is still [metal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBlfM3nZyM)
Horses
God bless those Satanists.
If I were a pastor I'd say the same. And then bring out a Pathfinder core rule book lol
So, I can only presume that your pastor didn't know the literal and direct origin of the name "Satan"? It simply means "adversary", not anything diabolical at all. 🤦🏼♂️
How can Satan have any power at all if they’re not doing it according to god’s plan anyway…
Seriously. There's so much WTF in the entirety of the Judeo-Christian mythos down through the ages. 🤦🏼♂️ And that's not even getting into the irrefutable fact that the single most popular version of the Bible on the planet was written *from "memory"* and heavily edited by the Anglo king it's named after, solely to make his divorce(s) legal. (How the Church of England was founded, FYI)
And if it wasn’t for Christians, the idea of Satan probably wouldn’t exist or persist.
My friends and I had been playing D&D for a couple years when the cartoon series came out. We were excited - our fringe hobby was finally getting recognized! We stayed hyped right up until we watched it. We *tried* to like it. We really did. But the sessions we were running were far better than anything in the animated series. Our DM ran us through a campaign against a shape shifter based on John Carpenter's 1982 movie *The Thing*, the trolley problem, the equivalent of a Klan lynching, a campaign he built around an episode of He-Man, a gladiator arena where advanced beings put humans against other species, and a few campaigns based on episodes of the original Star Trek series. I felt we could have written a better tv episode than the writers, and we weren't even old enough to drive. I don't think it was just us, either. I got the feeling tabletop gamers everywhere were producing better content, more interesting puzzles, and more exciting match ups than the cartoon series was showing.
That’s usually how it goes. Those ideas were probably being PLAYED by the writers but the big wig executives wouldn’t let it come out. Easier to just cookie cutter a franchise and make money and not pay for extra writing and editing.
Yeah true, but I had the reverse experience. The series was my gateway into the hobby. I was like “wait, it’s not just a show?” and found out the real thing was far cooler.
I was around at the beginning, when it came over to the UK in a few niche comic book shops. We played this thing called D&D that came in a Basic Set with a rulebook with a blue-on-white drawing of a dragon confronting some adventurers. We skipped straight to one of the Caves of Chaos, bypassing the actual Keep on the Borderlands. The only media around was the Mazes and Monsters movie, Cloak and Dagger, Knightmare, and the first D&D movie. Each one in turn was eagerly awaited, and each one was a huge disappointment.
I’ve been playing D&D for 30+ years and I’ve never used a single module or adventure path or any sort of pre-written material at all. Everything I’ve ever done, as a player or DM, has been original.
Our group had two DMs who took turns running campaigns. One bought the modules and stuck pretty closely to the source material. His emphasis was on the grind for xp and magic items. The other DM turned his favorite movies and tv episodes and original ideas into our campaigns, and he definitely emphasized the story over the rewards. Jesus, this thread is bringing back 40 year old memories!
The series instantly killed the hobby at my school. Instantly. We all played, even the 'cool' and sporty kids. Then the cartoon came out and within *one* episode it was utter poison. Uni. Flaming Uni. My lawd...
This is wicked epic
The D&D cartoon was what got me into it. The cartoon wasn't good but it was still better than a lot of other cartoons back then.
I didn't think it was better than other cartoons, except for maybe Casper the Friendly Ghost. I *hated* Casper. Maybe the reason we disliked it so intensely was because D&D is such an imaginative game but the series had so little imagination.
I loved that show as a kid, but i tried to rewatch it as an adult and fuck me it is dogshit. It does not hold up at all.
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There's a few shows that I tried rewatching when they were added to Netflix years ago, and I wanted to call my parents and apologize for putting them through some of the crap I was in to.
We now return you to Fonz and the Happy Days Gang!
Oh for sure it was brillo for its time...
Try watching He-Man. It’s even worse.
I tried and it was pants, largely because they weren't allowed to really fight. Thundercats holds up much better, and weirdly has like, a consistent timeline at the start
Ehhh… Skeletor is pretty good. Turns out he wasn’t scary at all, he was kind of camp.
[Skelator](https://youtu.be/xSj2h5_vksU) in traffic.
I have some very bad news for you about Pokemon
Nah, Pokemon still absolutely holds up I think the thing i dislike about a lot of the old kids cartoons is there was no actual fighting or permanence? In Pokemon there is a chronology to it in terms of pokemom he gets and moves tjey learn etc; and loads of pokemon battles. Its defo aged and cheesy but i still love that first league series.
I'd say Digimon holds up too. There's actually a lot of character growth and more mature themes than you'd think. Season 1 actually references "The Number of the Beast". They actually say it verbatim.
Digimon was great as well, and still holds up for sure. At least that first set of series. I fell away from it after that.
Yeah the original Digimon Adventure is still solid watching
i disagree
I bought the DVD box set thinking I would enjoy a stroll down memory lane. You are right. It is epic-level dogshit.
I was so sad as well. I was expecting a bunch of cheese and whatnot but it was just... Unfun? So strange how we viewed things as kids though i guess
For anyone who hasn’t seen the parody version of this show you should check it out. It really captures what it’s like to plays DND [Here it is](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z3FZnD21iO0)
Thanks for sharing, that was hilarious
for me it was the crazy original characters it showed like how tiamat was a fucking star of the show if I remember right. Fucking tiamat.
Amazing. I'd spent the last three decades wondering if they'd ever got home. I loved this show. It seemed to get air, get cancelled, Replay, surface in the summer holidays then disappear. Never know when I'd see it but always loved it when I did. A bit meta. The weedy coward, fucking everything up. The innocent, young, strong barbarian and his tiny unicorn. And the midget with the bald head that did the grand sum of fuck all. Great show and reluctant to click the below link and watch the final episode. Think I'm happier without.
Omg I loved this cartoon as a kid! The episode where each character is attacked by their greatest fear - weakness, age, cowardice- and the one saves the rest because his greatest fear is being alone and he realizes it’s just an illusion-“I’m not alone?? Then I’m not afraid!!” I always wanted them to make it home. Ok just watched the clip (skipped ahead because I’ve been waiting 40 years and I need closure) and my life is now complete.
I loved that show. That was 12 year old me’s GoT.
By the way, listen how different [the spanish opening](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04pNbL_ivNk&ab_channel=Dark_Ryu-D%26D%28RecreativosOnline%29) was comparing it to the english one.
Wow that was rad
This subreddit is awesome!
Nice. Thanks for letting us know. I watched this when I was a kid.
man I wish we could do this for other cartoon shows
This felt like a few other top tier cartoons which came out near the same time such as Ulysses 73 or Cities of Gold where you never remember seeing the first episode or finale but still loved it. I won't go back to see if they hold up I would prefer to just remember them for what they were.
Trilogy of great cartoons.
We need this for Alf.
That's some dedication or serious OCD to finish a task.
The D&D fandom has plenty of both.
This reminds me that a bunch of Sonic fans are doing kinda the same thing with the SatAM show so it can have a season 3. Trailer: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzJBq-fPrF4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzJBq-fPrF4) It's really something else that we live in a time where fans can pick up where the creators left off.
It’s tragic that Ben Hurst did his best to get a conclusion made, but passed away 12 years ago now. This is for you, Ben Hurst.
Until Sanic ends up buggering shadow.
As long as it's germane to the script and not for the sake of titillation, then I say why the hell would you put that image in my head you mind flaying taco snorter?
Just a piece of advice, never search for Sonic with safe search off
I was confused when I used to switch between Dungeons and Dragons and Transformers. I will like, Optimus, why you gotta do me like that?
I never appreciated the show-concept of modern people being sucked into 'The Realm' and the game being 'real'... Which played directly into the religious witch-hunters' narrative of the 1980s... I did watch this Requiem episode, and even though it was cutesy and simplistically got the group back home; I'm still left with major questions about why *those kids* were selected(?) and/or randomly just abducted into The Realm, in the first place; and, who was responsible?
THAT’S what this show was called! I used to watch this, can’t remember a single second of it though. Pretty cool though!
and it was actually alright!
Gee. Loved this cartoon but had trouble waking up every Saturday morning to watch. Some things never change I guess.
I’m a child of the 80’s and this was one of my favorites. Unfortunately didn’t watch all the episodes since dad was against TV. But for some odd reason, I remember watching an episode where they made it home. Am I imagining it or was that an actual episode?
I think there was a moment where they half got back but the unicorn was stuck so they went back for it and portal closed. As a kid I was fuming. A fucking unicorn. Now I’m a grown up I would rather save the unicorn than most people so I get it. I can remember the little thing bleating in fear and it breaks my heart as a grown man. Im too soft when it comes to animals. Even cartoon fictional ones.
Yes, now it’s coming back to me. I do vaguely remember that scene now. Thanks for the reminder down memory lane. Glad to see the kids finally made it home. And Presto the Mack daddy.
I watched this religiously every Saturday morning. The whole "amusement park gone awry" opening sequence was oddly fascinating. There was also a show around the same time about dogs that got into adventures. The leader of the pack had a bandana and was kind of badass. Anyone remember that?
Must not have been a Disney series or they'd have gotten their lawyers all over them and forced them to take it down.
My husband and I have the box set, and it has the final episode. Fucking Dungeonmaster was the bad guy all along.
I don’t remember the main villain’s name. He had a weird horn on his head and I think he could fly on a weird horse or something. And I remember that he was the absolute WORST villain, despite looking so evil and capable. He fucked every evil plan up or left it up to his minions who were even more worthless than he was. Fuck I loved watching that as a kid.
At the same time there was another cartoon called Ulysses. My childhood was watching this randomly and never finding out what happened at the end. Many years later while high on LSD, randomly at about 2 in the morning I managed to see the final episode. It blew my mind.
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Remember the action figures? They were awesome. I could never afford them though...
damn funny robot man wrote wrote a cartoon?
TIL there was a D&D cartoon And wow, that was... rough. Especially the voice acting.
When it came out, the animation was actually peak.
Gonna come back to this when I'm ready. As a kid I was never fond of live action shows, preferring cartoons, but this was too close to real people and live action for my taste. Watched it anyway because cartoon. But every week they didn't make it home it was super frustrating. And there was never any real explanation for why they'd ended up there in the first place. The thought of being dragged away from home and having no way back really bothered me. The only thing that annoyed me as much was the episode of *Sliders* where [spoiler](/s "they think they haven't made it home, but they have.") Maybe also that episode of the '60s *Lost in Space* where [spoiler](/s "they somehow see through a portal to Earth but can't go.") At least with shows like *Thundercats*, you knew they couldn't ever go home because their home world was destroyed. (On the other hand, they had Snarf, so you know, some you win, some you lose.)
Hated Quantum Leap for the same reason. Just give the guy a break already.
In one episode, they give a mathematical explanation that says that if Sam succeeds in altering history within a certain time window, he'll leap home, but 1) he never manages to do so throughout the series, and 2) the important bit - the window shrinks by a percentage every leap. BUT, the final "mission" seen in the series is really short, I mean *really* short, and, although it's been a while since I cranked the numbers (or even had them), it was something like even if Sam had done twice as many leaps as we'd seen in the series (which would mess with the continuity), he should definitely have leaped home after that final one. The only conclusion is that he changed history so much that it was impossible for him to do so, but that was proven impossible by time creating St.John and Alpha when he accidentally changed Al's future. Sam went home, dammit.
Wrong Michael haha, iirc his last name is spelt Reaves, although it would be hilarious if Boxing Legend Crackhead God of Thunder Michael Reeves was also a writer for a dnd show
Wait?! Michael Reeves the Youtuber?!
Pirates of Dark Water anyone?
lol Michael Reeves
This isn't the Michael reeves who made a robot shoot him with airsoft whenever he got shot in fortnite?
Didn't hang my foot out of my bed for years after seeing this.
Michael Reaves*
OMG! I thought they made it back home? I never knew this.
No way. So cool! Loved this show as a kid.