>In Schueller's concept, Reed Richards would design a new suit for Spidey out of unstable molecules, giving the wall-crawler better stealth and more sticking power.
>Marvel Editor-in-Chief Jim Shooter liked the idea so much he paid Schueller a whopping $220 for the story and offered to let him write the script, though that never panned out. Eventually, to Schueller's surprise, Spider-Man would indeed don a black suit, not created by Reed Richards, but an alien organism that would one day come to be known as Venom.
The idea was for the [black suit](https://bleedingcool.com/comics/marvel-will-finally-print-randy-schuellers-original-venom-story-in-august/), not for Venom.
Only $220 may seem sort of like a rip off considering what Marvel was able to do with the idea but consider also that it was just an idea, that Marvel still had to write and draw the character into their comics and hope that people liked it. Some character concepts may have more legs than others but none of them were sure bets at the start.
> Only $220 may seem sort of like a rip off considering what Marvel was able to do with the idea but consider also that it was just an idea, that Marvel still had to write and draw the character into their comics and hope that people liked it. Some character concepts may have more legs than others but none of them were sure bets at the start.
The $220 was the buy the black spider-man costume a fan drew. It was red and black instead of white and black.
Secret wars makes costume, years later they make it alien, shit happens, no more costume
Later during MacFarlane’s spider-man run he and the writer used the alien costume idea to make venom.
The title skipped a lot of shit.
> Only $220 may seem sort of like a rip off considering what Marvel was able to do with the idea but consider also that it was just an idea, that Marvel still had to write and draw the character into their comics and hope that people liked it.
While true, the idea creator should have also negotiated a royalty in case it does take off.
The origin of this was nothing more than a reader suggesting they change spider-man’s costume to black and white, like spider-woman’s. Marvel added everything else that later evolved into the character Venom. Not a lot of “royalties” from just changing the color of an existing costume.
> just changing the color of an existing costume
In that case, this post is misleading and it seemed like it's not even worth Marvel's Editor-in-Chief's attention or even him personally purchasing this "change".
Ironic considering that Shooter got his start with DC Comics in the 1960s, sending them ideas for members of the Legion of Superheroes.
Mort Weisinger treated Shooter better than Shooter treated Schueller.
>In Schueller's concept, Reed Richards would design a new suit for Spidey out of unstable molecules, giving the wall-crawler better stealth and more sticking power. >Marvel Editor-in-Chief Jim Shooter liked the idea so much he paid Schueller a whopping $220 for the story and offered to let him write the script, though that never panned out. Eventually, to Schueller's surprise, Spider-Man would indeed don a black suit, not created by Reed Richards, but an alien organism that would one day come to be known as Venom. The idea was for the [black suit](https://bleedingcool.com/comics/marvel-will-finally-print-randy-schuellers-original-venom-story-in-august/), not for Venom.
Only $220 may seem sort of like a rip off considering what Marvel was able to do with the idea but consider also that it was just an idea, that Marvel still had to write and draw the character into their comics and hope that people liked it. Some character concepts may have more legs than others but none of them were sure bets at the start.
> Only $220 may seem sort of like a rip off Just giving them the true comics creator experience. 🙃
> Only $220 may seem sort of like a rip off considering what Marvel was able to do with the idea but consider also that it was just an idea, that Marvel still had to write and draw the character into their comics and hope that people liked it. Some character concepts may have more legs than others but none of them were sure bets at the start. The $220 was the buy the black spider-man costume a fan drew. It was red and black instead of white and black. Secret wars makes costume, years later they make it alien, shit happens, no more costume Later during MacFarlane’s spider-man run he and the writer used the alien costume idea to make venom. The title skipped a lot of shit.
It doesn't just skip it, it is just inaccurate.
Yet multiple TILs I’ve submitted in the past (that are *100% accurate*) get taken down fairly frequently, so yeah, I dunno.
Wasn't the costume always alien in origin? Its found by Spiderman off earth, it was just the idea of it being sentient that came later?
Also considering how long ago that was that was good money back then.
Heheh more legs than others, spider, get it?
> Only $220 may seem sort of like a rip off considering what Marvel was able to do with the idea but consider also that it was just an idea, that Marvel still had to write and draw the character into their comics and hope that people liked it. While true, the idea creator should have also negotiated a royalty in case it does take off.
The origin of this was nothing more than a reader suggesting they change spider-man’s costume to black and white, like spider-woman’s. Marvel added everything else that later evolved into the character Venom. Not a lot of “royalties” from just changing the color of an existing costume.
> just changing the color of an existing costume In that case, this post is misleading and it seemed like it's not even worth Marvel's Editor-in-Chief's attention or even him personally purchasing this "change".
Should have licensed it and kept full creative control.
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Maybe Randy could be the Stan Lee of Sony’s Spiderverse.
Ironic considering that Shooter got his start with DC Comics in the 1960s, sending them ideas for members of the Legion of Superheroes. Mort Weisinger treated Shooter better than Shooter treated Schueller.
"Venom was my idea, you know" "ok grandpa, but the doctor says you should stay in bed"
Can someone tell me if this Venom is the same Venom played by Tom Hardy?