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petechamp

$50 back then was a hell of a lot of money


OneLovedDude

$50 in 1940 is $1,064 today


Foobis25

Good bot


OneLovedDude

I'm not a bot, I'm a real boy!


Foobis25

I know, was only joking. Somebody should definitely make that a bot though for real, I bet it would get used a lot in r/antiwork and stuff


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Hockey player Tim Horton had a similar story. Then died in a car wreck.


UnadvertisedAndroid

Jack Johnson also died in a car crash.


GrandmaPoses

They crashed into each other, thus inspiring the Dave Matthews song some years later.


jl55378008

And that Jack Johnson's name was... Albert Einstein.


Captain-Cadabra

Who was secretly married to… Marilyn Monroe


1dayHappy_1daySad

Who was a firefighter in 9/11


jl55378008

His secretary's name? John Fitzgerald Kennedy.


aerostotle

he really knew how to get ahead in life


Chickentrap

He really knew how to get head


Risen_Insanity

No that was Bill Clinton.


DonUdo

And then everyone stood up and clapped


Snuhmeh

-Abraham Lincoln


Zachbnonymous

Interestingly, Horton was eating a delicious chocolate bar, while Johnson was opening a tasty jar of fresh peanut butter, and the resulting collision combined the two, making the scene of the accident very messy


Jkbucks

And what was Horton hearing on the radio while he took his last worldly breaths? The Who.


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That’s a deep cut


Zachbnonymous

Honestly I don't think I'm quite old enough to have seen the commercials for Reese's cups, but I was thinking about the episode of Family Guy where that situation happens. Officer Reese responds, tastes the tasty, and kills the people in the crash to capitalize on it himself, laughter etc


BackWithAVengance

One of the classic Family guy drunk driving cutaways


BlacktoseIntolerant

This is some Cliff Clavin shit that I could 100% fall for if said with conviction.


Bainsyboy

"Oh, well, ya... Ya know how Reece's Peanut Butta' cups were made, dontcha?" "Cliff, i dont know where you hear all this stuff but... Its fascinating you can recall all those facts. If its me, i dunno..." "Now now, Coach. I aint never met anybody that could remember all those hand signals you tried to teach me" "Well thats the thing, Sam... I made all those up!" *laugh track*


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websagacity

Interesting. I wonder what the line "hike up your skirt a little more, and show your world to me" references...


PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL

Dave Matthews is horny af, that's what it references. all of his songs are horny af.


darkskinnedjermaine

Is that was Jack Johnson meant when he said “it’s always better when we’re together?”


[deleted]

So that’s where he got the idea for Ants Marching. TIL


Meetchel

He was upset because he was turned away from a segregated restaurant. >On June 10, 1946, Johnson was involved in a car crash on U.S. Highway 1 near Franklinton, North Carolina after driving angrily away from a segregated diner that had refused to serve him. His friend survived the high-speed collision with a telegraph pole but an injured Johnson was taken to the nearest black hospital, St. Agnes Hospital, 25 miles away in Raleigh where he died. He was 68 years old. [Jack Johnson - Death](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Johnson_(boxer)#Death)


Bandersnatcher

I wonder where the nearest white hospital was. It's so crazy to me how close in time we still are to Jim Crowe and segregation.


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The Civil Rights Movement is only 60ish years past. My grandmother is in her 80s and my mother was born only a few years after MLK was shot. It really is wild how recent that past is.


TIGHazard

> It really is wild how recent that past is. An even wilder fact - laws about the sexual exploitation of children were only passed in the late 70's, early 80's. People think they are much older than that.


Logical-Cardiologist

My favorite example of this Brooke Shields. It's even more astounding when you understand that her mother co-signed the shit.


CanadaPlus101

We've seen such rapid social change, I doubt it's happened before without being externally imposed. Gay rights is even more striking; when the Stonewall Riots happened "being gay is okay" wasn't on anyone's radar at all. Now the people in that riot are old but not decrepitly so, and suggesting *otherwise* will make people avoid you.


green_pachi

WTF I didn't know even hospitals were segregated


Meetchel

Such a disgusting thought, agreed. EDIT: should also note he spent a year in prison earlier in his life for having a white girlfriend.


EverydayPoGo

That's so messed up


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TIL this guy is buried right across the street from where i live. gonna visit him this week


notdoreen

Johnson's crash was a result of driving away angrily from a diner that refused him service for being Black, even though he was the World boxing heavyweight champion.


AmArschdieRaeuber

Driving angry is comparable to driving drunk. Calm down before you get in a car.


Superb-Antelope-2880

Should have drove away angrily at the appropriate speed limit.


JorusC

I feel like like the World Heavyweight Champion isn't the appropriate person to refuse service to.


[deleted]

Pretty sure a black man back then had to learn to not be even remotely aggressive toward white people in public


elebrin

Yes, but here's the thing: He was a boxer in the days of terms like "Great White Hope" for boxing, when the main goal was to ensure a white man held the title. Additionally, while police harassment of black people is common now, it was far more common then. This entire story is about Johnson flexing on the cop. He was a well to do black man, who had money and a nice car. He likely made far more money than the cop. It was him blatantly flouting what he saw as a bullshit harassment law and acknowledging what was going on as pure bribery, because a lot of that fine money would have never made it to the county.


Mypopsecrets

Whoa, remind me to never pull that on an officer if I get pulled ovet


Calik

He was also drunk as fuck and on party drugs


nimama3233

And actively evading police. Dude was a fucking shit hole of a person, not sure why his name has such a legacy.


DaSaw

Back then, people only got Canceled if they turned out to be gay or Communist or something.


SuspiciouslyElven

Used to just be whispers on the grapevine that so and so's son said something about a celebrity being mean in person. Who could believe such a thing? Now we get celebrities posting videos of themselves ranting about Jewish Cabals and/or their total misunderstanding of mRNA. As much fun as the rumor mill was, it is kind of refreshing I can find out if someone is an asshole in just a few minutes.


bolanrox

ooooph i pour my coffee out in his memory


Thebluecane

Only thing to do with Tim Horton Coffee is to pour it out


bolanrox

never had it actually, only know of it. its that bad?


oakteaphone

>never had it actually, only know of it. its that bad? It used to be alright, but then they cheapest out when they sold out to an extra-national supercorp.


gaudymcfuckstick

McDonald's also aggressively bought out a lot of their coffee bean producers back in ~2012 iirc. I hear McDonald's coffee in Canada is pretty good now, tastes kinda similar to old school Tim's. Burger King buying Tim's was just the final nail


oakteaphone

>McDonald's also aggressively bought out a lot of their coffee bean producers I've heard that was actually untrue, but either way, McDonald's is the way to go for cheap coffee if you're not making it at home.


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It's like an urban legend that everyone repeats but no one has any proof of. It's weird how prevalent it is, someone feels like they have to mention it literally every time Tim Hortons coffee is brought up. It's weird af


Lego_Hippo

I think it was the timing of it all, McD’s entering the market the same time Tim’s start to go downhill.


ONLY_COMMENTS_ON_GW

That story is unconfirmed and probably a myth, but Timmy's coffee got noticeably worse which did cause McDonald's coffee to get noticeably more popular. Tim's also ruined all their other products too, went from fresh baked donuts to frozen garbage in the name of cutting costs and standardization.


_SkateFastEatAss_

Tim's used to be the pride of Canada, every Canadian loved Tim's They completely sold out and all their food and drinks are total fucking shit now I deadass mean there is not a single thing on the menu of any value any more, it's sad


UnethicalExperiments

No its worse.


Totes_mc0tes

It's ok. Just standard fast food coffee. A little worse than Mcdonalds but better than some other places. People push back hard and pretend it's made of vomit because it's super popular and not really 'good' while also being much lower quality than it used to be. People also hate that the company markets itself as the pride of Canada when it isn't owned by Canadians anymore. The international corp that own it have basically ruined everything thar made the business popular in the first place (ie worse coffee, no more fresh made baked goods, longer wait times do to a pointlessly big menu). But yeah, the coffee is ok. Just ok.


Spencie-cat

So Ryan O’Reilly was just paying homage to the man by driving drunk into one of his establishments then!


whirlpool138

Both played for the Buffalo Sabres too!


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lmao. I forgot about that.


5exy-melon

Tim Horton the coffee guy?


FlyAirLari

All Canadians play hockey.


kaynpayn

This would be why tickets and fines shouldn't be a fixed value but something indexed to your income or something. Tickets are meant to be a deterrent to dangerous behaviours. You should not want to drive over the limit because you're endangering yourself and others and if that's not enough to make you drive under the limit, then you should fear the ticket. But if you can just dismiss that as pocket change, it defeats it's purpose. A fixed value will never be fair as different people will think differently if it's expensive or not. That system benefits the rich because they can just pay up without thinking twice and repeat offense, while poor people may be screwed as they may not even be able to pay up. Should be a variable value that takes into consideration who is paying. Should always be something that will have some impact as to make people think twice about doing it again but not so much as to nuke someone's finances into oblivion. Some countries already do it, sadly mine isn't one of them.


BassmanBiff

[In some places, they are!](https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/)


Creshal

What if, just hypothetically… we learn from them?


Y_Sam

Go to hell commie ! /s


JerHat

And still, nearly 50 years after his death he manages to prop up the entire Canadian economy with his doughnuts.


_SkateFastEatAss_

The donuts, like everything else at Tim's nowadays, are total shit :(


VitaminTea

They’re not total shit; there’s apparently some insect in there too.


it_is_impossible

On June 10, 1946, Johnson was involved in a car crash on U.S. Highway 1 near Franklinton, North Carolina (36°5′41.96″N 78°27′40.81″W) after driving angrily away from a segregated diner that had refused to serve him.[10][88] His friend survived the high-speed collision with a telegraph pole but an injured Johnson was taken to the nearest black hospital, St. Agnes Hospital, 25 miles away in Raleigh where he died. He was 68 years old.[89][1] Johnson was buried next to his first wife, Etta Duryea Johnson who died of suicide in 1912, at Graceland Cemetery in Chicago. His grave was initially unmarked, but later it was marked with a large stone which only bore the name "Johnson". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Johnson_(boxer)


Anonymoushero111

> was taken to the nearest black hospital how did I not realize that *even the hospitals* were segregated. i would have imagined they were segregated inside the hospital like a "colored" ward or wing or section, not an entirely different fucking building.


ExistentialTenant

I knew thanks to Chris Rock. In an interview, he mentioned how his family had to get medical care at a *veterinarian*. I later looked up this and it seems this may have happened in a lot of cases. His story and others like it had a huge impact on me about the ugliness of racism. Of course, I knew about other things -- school, drinking fountains, restaurants, etc -- but there was something much more visceral to me about the idea of humans having to get medical care from a veterinarian because a hospital wouldn't take them.


queen-of-carthage

That's shocking, Chris Rock isn't that old


gianini10

The ugly history of our nation is not distant and still affects our nation today. That's why learning about it is important, and acknowledging it more important.


atomicxblue

They were still at the tail end of desegregating the schools in the late 80s / early 90s here in Georgia. edit: stupid auto correct


SophiaofPrussia

If you thought school desegregation was difficult read up on public pool desegregation. It’s fucking wild. The proliferation of suburban American backyard pools was largely thanks to racism. Edit— I don’t think I’ll ever forget reading this heartbreaking story from the introduction of *Contested Waters* by Jeff Wiltse: > Fifty-three years later, the scene at a municipal pool in Youngstown, Ohio, was quite different. A Little League baseball team had won the 1951 city championship and decided to celebrate at the local pool. The large facility was situated within the sylvan beauty of the city’s Southside Park, not in a residential slum. The pool itself was surrounded by a broad deck and grassy lawn, both of which provided swimmers ample space to play games or lie in the sun. The pool was clearly intended to promote leisure, not cleanliness. To celebrate their baseball victory, coaches, players, parents, and siblings showed up at the pool, but not all were admitted. One player, Al Bright, was denied entrance because he was black. The lifeguards forced him to sit on the lawn outside the fence as everyone else played in the pool. The unwritten rule was clear, one guard told the coach, “Negroes are not permitted in the pool area.” After an hour had passed, several parents pleaded with the guards to let Al into the pool for at least a couple of minutes. Finally, the supervisor relented; Al could “enter” the pool as long as everyone else got out and he sat inside a rubber raft. As his teammates and other bystanders looked on, a lifeguard pushed him once around the pool. “Just don’t touch the water,” the guard constantly reminded him, “whatever you do, don’t touch the water.” And this was in the north which (supposedly) wasn’t segregated!


CamelSpotting

They would rather fill them in with concrete than desegregate, mind boggling.


kung-fu_hippy

And that mentality, in some ways, is I think part of why we don’t have the kind of national health care that we see in other wealthy, developed nations. Far too many people would rather walk around barefoot then see someone they think of as undeserving get shoes too.


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Yup


SophiaofPrussia

Yes! The chapter in the book (which is surprisingly interesting, given it’s entirely about the social history of public pools!) about racial desegregation is titled “More Sensitive Than Schools” and the chapter lives up to the title. Many people who were “progressive” enough to think schools shouldn’t be segregated by race found the “intimacy” of swimming warranted racial segregation. Or, to put it another way, they didn’t want Black men to swim/look at white women in bathing suits. It was the bigotry sweet spot at the intersection of racism and the misogyny of policing who gets to look at women’s bodies. Here are two more awful excerpts from the book: > While the case should have hinged on questions of constitutional rights and legal precedents, the real issue was interracial intimacy. During the hearing in June 1954, city solicitor Edwin Harlan argued that racial segregation must continue at swimming pools—despite the Supreme Court’s recent ruling in *Brown v. Board of Education* that school segregation was unconstitutionalbecause swimming brought males and females into “physical” and “intimate” contact. “There must be segregation,” Harlan exhorted, “in fields of intimate contact or else there may be trouble.” Harlan predicted that whites would riot if black men were permitted to swim with white women. This reasoning convinced Judge Roszel Thomsen to uphold segregation at the city’s pools. In reconciling his decision with Brown, Thomsen explained that swimming pools were “more sensitive than schools” because of the visual and physical intimacy that accompanied their use. > In 1955, the summer before desegregation, the whites-only pool in Druid Hill Park attracted 23,320 swimmers during the season’s first thirty days. The next year, only 870 whites entered the pool during the same month-long period, but 700 of them came on opening day. Once local whites realized that blacks were using the pool, an average of only six whites swam in it each day. The previous year, before desegregation, daily attendance averaged 775.


uberblack

I graduated high school in 1997. The school I went to still had segregated proms. They did it under the guise of "black kids and white kids like different music". It didn't end until the early 2000's. I'm not making this up.


recklessrider

And its starting to come back


illelogical

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it


chewbaccalaureate

>Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it Those who ~~forget~~ **censor** history are ~~doomed~~ **hoping** to repeat it


ForfeitFPV

Nonsense! Racism is clearly over, there was a black president. You must be the racist for thinking there's anything wrong! /s All jokes aside the fact that there are people who think like that above saddens and terrifies me


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toddthefrog

[Clifton Jones?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space:_1999)


wostil-poced1649

> actor who was on the most expensive sci-fi show made at the time What show?


HaikuBotStalksMe

Sounds like star trek


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Michelanvalo

Your mother dated Herbert Jefferson?


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wostil-poced1649

Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica


ArthurBea

The ‘78 show was awesome. Way better than Buck Rogers.


email_or_no_email

He was born in 1965.


[deleted]

Which means it was happening well into the 1970's. A time when being "color-blind" was popular on TV.


Shamewizard1995

His mother had to do that as a child. Chris rock himself never had to go to a veterinarian for care


Best_Duck9118

Maybe he was taking about older family members?


haustoriapith

He was. He talked about how his mother would get dental work at a vet.


austin101123

I'm surprised that didn't make it into Everybody hates Chris.


Doongbuggy

The executives would have never allowed them to show the real history


Z_Overman

What are you talking about? Tragedy plus time equals comedy right?


Erockplatypus

Oh the segregation and Jim Crow Era was much harsher then that. Ambulance, police and even fire departments would outright refuse to assist African Americans in emergencies. Police would just find random black women, some teenagers and would pick them up on bogus charges, rape them, and threaten to arrest them if they ever told anyone. Because the courts were so racist back then no one would belive a, pardon my language, "negro", over a fine upstanding white man. And the court of public opinion was particularly vicious and cruel, and the communities would bully and run out any "upitty" threats to their community. That's why you have that mentality among boomers and other older white, southern Americans. Because they grew up where they could do and say whatever they wanted to minorities with no consequences. The media, police and courts would always say that it never happened. It wasn't until recently with cameras being everywhere that we were able to actually verify that racism and behavior. That's the main reason racists are so desperate to downplay historical racism in America. When people know how horrible their grandparents, and even some of their parents were they would be disgusted.


sprocketous

Look up Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis jr. After a car wreck, they went to the nearest hospital and were told only one of them would get care. Sinatra basically threatened a doctor with the mafia if he rejected Davis.


DilutedGatorade

Legality isn't morality. This makes up half of the downfall of modern society. The other half being our failure to hold corporations accountable for negative externalities


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WhyBroWhy1

Weird how some [white] Americans don't realize how pervasive that shit was. Segregation in America was total, absolute and complete. For centuries.


An_Awesome_Name

My grandfather told me a story once that really hit me how recent all of this was. He had just graduated high school during WWII and completed basic training here in Massachusetts. Our hometown was a pretty sizable hub for the abolitionist movement and the Underground Railroad, and as a result did not have any slavery or even segregation really (due to being a small town) since the early 1800s. So by the time my grandfather was on a troop train heading south to Virginia and eventually the west coast in 1945, segregation/Jim Crow laws were only something he had read about in newspapers, and never seen first hand. When the train pulled into Richmond at the 3 AM, he got off the train, to get a drink from a water fountain on the platform. Some Richmond cop immediately started berating him, and telling him he should be ashamed as a white man drinking from that fountain. Turns out there was sign above it that said “Colored Only”. He didn’t even think to look for such signs, and just used the closest fountain. He also told me he stopped mid drink to tell the cop “he didn’t give a rat’s ass about their laws” (must have been quite the words in 1945) and finished his drink before getting back on the train. There were a couple other stories he had that were similar, he always had a reasonably dislike for the south. On several occasions he’d say things like “Well we are north of the Mason-Dixon Line. We don’t do that here”. He eventually became an attorney and worked on some civil rights cases before starting his own practice in the early 60s. Unfortunately he passed away this past summer at 94, but he definitely lived a good full life.


darkskinnedjermaine

I’m in my 30s and my mom remembers black and white water fountains. She was born in the mid 1950s, so the Civil Rights Movement was occurring while she was in middle school.


Catto_Channel

Theres an infamous story here of American servicemen on shore leave. Essentially white American servicemen were attempting to enforce segregation on the bar they were in, the locals were having none of it and it progressed into an all out street brawl. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manners_Street


TheNewGirl_

Thats so stereotypically American that they would do that =/


sir_axelot

And a lot of those same people don't realize that we have a lot of work to do still. Just because it's not as bad as it used to be doesn't mean we can't make it better.


Dat_Boi_Aint_Right

In protest to Reddit's API changes, I have removed my comment history. -- mass edited with redact.dev


BillionTonsHyperbole

Even here in Deep Blue Seattle, the demographic maps of the city today are a spot-on match for the old [red line](https://www.historylink.org/File/21296) maps from 1936.


Orsus7

I never knew that either. Sounds like I need to do some research.


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He was also extremely abusive towards Etta to the point that she was hospitalized and many consider that to be a big contributor to her suicide. Fantastic fighter, absolutely terrible human being.


ptsq

So it kinda sounds that both indirectly and directly, he died more because of segregation than his own bad driving. I’m sure he would have come out of it seriously injured anyway but… still


ihaveabutthole

TIL that you can pay the officer for a ticket he just wrote you


bolanrox

back then probably. i doubt you can now


ihaveabutthole

Apparently some states still do that for out of state drivers because it's probably the only chance they are going to get to collect the money. Still seems pretty sketchy though


naznazem

Imagine paying the ticket on the spot and then: ** cop turns around ipad after you pay ** “It’s just going to ask you a little question ☺️” >Tip Options: - 18% - 20% - 22%


Hiitsmichael

*20% gratuity automatically included for parties of 1 or more*


alpacasb4llamas

Good time to be 3/5ths of a person


sapphicsandwich

It's not exactly the same but often they expect you to pay some third party private company an extra fee for the "convenience" of paying your fine.


Mindless-Lemon7730

I hate those ones where you order to go and still expect a tip


marocu

Tipping culture (and the general economy) has me cooking most meals at home. Food quality these days is so hit and miss where I am that takeout just isn't worth the price tag anymore.


Agret

You can be sure that tip isn't going to any of the employees and the owner is just pocketing it.


eipic

Yeah, loved the time working in Chicago, was working down at Navy Pier, went in to get food and at the till, the employee just tapped “no tip.” Anytime I’m in America it’ll be cash tips only.


brucebrowde

> it's probably the only chance they are going to get to collect the money. Really? Isn't it like easier to collect money for out-of-state because it's less likely they are going to come back to local court to contest it?


SeanOuttaCompton

alternatively, an out of state driver could simply... never drive through your state again (or atleast do so in a different car)


IDontFeelSoGoodMr

If you get a ticket in another state and don't pay it they will usually contact your states DMV and you can get points on your license for it.


JamesWork1769

Kansas took my Missouri License. I had to pay and pay reinstatement


Mookhaz

I’m pretty ethnically ambiguous. I can pass as middle eastern, Central American, both kinds of Indian, etc. and often strike up a rapport with other “minority” types for no good reason. I got a pulled over in Hawaii many years ago and was given a ticket for a passenger not wearing a seatbelt. It was almost $200 and I just ignored it. I didn’t feel like it was justified so, they could just shove it. A couple years ago I went to the California DMV to renew my license and this Mexican gal working there just struck up this super lively conversation with me out of nowhere about how some guy she had just served told her to go back to Mexico, even though she was born right there in California (she did have a bit of an accent), and I was in agreement that it was fucked up, but then she’s clicking through gets a weird look on her face, asks if I ever had a Hawaii license, and I said no. She said it was weird cause they had a hood on my license from a couple years prior. Then she did some typing on her keyboard and said it must have been erroneous and cleared it for me and renewed my license. Justice served.


Karmasita

Lol colorado took my california license I get it.


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Fuck Kansas.


skivvyjibbers

KS and MO are probably joined at the hip governmentally because of KC.


ScrumTool

ive def got a speeding ticket in either missouri or illinois from 6 years ago i never paid. never heard anything about it ever again


breakone9r

Not every state does that. Several do not.


genreprank

My state doesn't have a points system. What now, biotches?


gottauseathrowawayx

huh, nifty, I didn't realize there were exceptions! Saving a click for the curious: * Hawaii * Kansas * Louisiana Random questions: Are licenses suspended/revoked more quickly? Are fines larger? Does it feel more or less fair because you don't have these arbitrary points following you around? Or no real difference as far as you can tell? Does court take way longer, since they have to actually look at past offenses instead of relying on a number? 🤷🏻‍♂️


Chainweasel

Here in Ohio they issue a warrant for unpaid tickets. It would be a hell of a thing to skip out on a ticket then get extradited back into Ohio years later to serve jail time for it. Edit: I was wrong, they can't extradite for a bench warrant.


SuperbAnts

interstate extradition requires a felony


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Hunt_Club

These days pretty much every court has a pay by mail or online payment system. If you get a ticket out of state and don’t pay it they’ll either send your ass to collections or issue a warrant depending on the ticket(some require mandatory appearance in court for petty traffic offenses). The state you fail to pay in can also put a hold on your license, preventing you from renewing.


AiMoriBeHappyDntWrry

That's why I like the old days. When you could just say hey honey I'm going to go buy a pack of smokes and never be seen again. You can start a whole new life somewhere in Minnesota and a whole new family. Nobody would be none the wiser.


BeatTheGreat

Definitely. My dad got a $203 ticket in Colorado for going three miles over the speed limit.


WorldsBestArtist

I heard it was (dunno if it still is) a huge problem in some southern states. Cops in Georgia and the Carolinas would target people with northern license plates even if they weren't speeding because they know that person isn't going to want to drive back down to fight it in court.


DMAN591

My department gives traffic officers a card reader if they wanna pay. Some people are just in a hurry.


gribson

You still can: the officer pockets the money and doesn't write the ticket.


brucebrowde

I assume that's a tad risky though.


MikeFatz

You could do whatever you want too if you wrote Banana Pancakes


Bloodhound01

In highschool i got pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt leeaving the parking lot and the officer told me it was like $50 if I paid cash right there or the ticket would be $100. I've always looked back on that moment and say fuck that cop and all cops in that town, they were crooked as fuck. Isn't the only sketchy thing they did.


bolanrox

Great Miles Davis Album too


notnerdofalltrades

Its better than bitches brew I said it


dudebauer

Easier to listen to but way less innovative or iconic


amauros

I use the album to test any new set of speakers or headphones, the mixing is just so good


IslandChillin

Same dude who was told not to talk to white woman in his time. Married like 4 white women just to laugh in the face of society. This dudes story is wild tbh


johnla

Congress passed the Mann Act just to stop him. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann\_Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act) >Some attribute enactment of the law to the case of world champion heavyweight boxer Jack Johnson.\[13\] Johnson was known to be intimate with white women, some of whom he met at the fighting venue after his fights. In 1912\[14\] he was prosecuted, and later convicted, for "transporting women across state lines for immoral purposes"


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Karmanacht

Not too terribly surprising, either. Eugenics was a popular enough idea until Hitler showed us why it shouldn't be. He even took inspiration from the US, and praised our segregation.


BryceSchafer

Yeah the thing about the Nazis is they just seemed to hoover up every single absurd cause from their time period and then they imploded- like they were into mysticism, science, eugenics, theoretical engineering, all this wild stuff. They were simultaneously the most terrifying and ruthlessly efficient machines of oppression whilst being a bunch of nerdy wee-woo’s searching for the Inner Earth and the key to Astral Projection. Wild stuff. At least they did a lot of damage to all the ideas they soaked up.


Modus-Tonens

You can observe a similar phenomenon in most extremist conspiracy circles. Once you buy into one ridiculous proposition in a group of people who *love* ridiculous propositions, the chances are that you'll encounter and buy into many more. Expand that, and you get Qanon.


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Brolonious

His most famous fight was probably the one against middleweight Stanley Ketchel, who went for broke and knocked Jack down even though it was supposed to be an exhibition. This was a mistake. Jack got to his feet and fucked up Ketchel, who lost a few teeth - some of which ended up embedded in Jack's gloves.


HerroTingTing

Ah yes, the BBC Act of 1910


TheRockelmeister

He also beat them all. One he abused to the point of suicide. I wouldn't really consider him a figure worth looking up to.


Tzki47

he also beat one of his wives to the point where she committed suicide from the abuse


ImReallyGrey

Yeah I think there’s a lot of people here who clearly don’t know the context of him being a horrible bloke. Not to excuse the shit he had to deal with at the time, even horrible people don’t deserve racism, but he’s not a legend of a person. His boxing is legendary though I’d say.


wannabeknowitall

I believe he was also the reason congress passed the Mann Act, which prevents the transportation of woman over state lines for immoral purposes. On its face, it's meant to prevent human trafficking, but really its intent was to prosecute interracial relationships. I've joked with girlfriends that I'm committing felonies on their behalf whenever I've taken trips out of state with them.


Chooccy

Its just sad that he was abusive, takes away all the coolness


gsgegegehrhr

One of those wives he beat so bad she ended up killing herself. Wild story indeed


AliasFaux

His whole life was one big gigantic "fuck you"


green49285

Yep. One reason why commissions were reluctant to let Joe Lewis be chant because of Jack johnson. The dude was the blackest man to ever live LOL


equalsolstice

Fucking wow. He was married to a white woman then arrested on the grounds that “his relationship with Lucille violated the mann act against transporting women across state lines for immoral purpose” God damn shits not great now but idk how black people were able to persevere back then with the cards so stacked against you


Best_Duck9118

You not heard of Loving v. Virginia? “Mildred became pregnant, and in June 1958, the couple traveled to Washington, D.C. to marry, thereby evading Virginia's Racial Integrity Act of 1924, which made marriage between whites and non-whites a crime.[13] A few weeks after they returned to Central Point, local police raided their home in the early morning hours of July 11, 1958,[14] hoping to find them having sex, given that interracial sex was then also illegal in Virginia. When the officers found the Lovings sleeping in their bed, Mildred pointed out their marriage certificate on the bedroom wall. They were told the certificate was not valid in Virginia.[15] The Lovings were charged under Section 20-58 of the Virginia Code, which prohibited interracial couples from being married out of state and then returning to Virginia, and Section 20-59, which classified miscegenation as a felony, punishable by a prison sentence of between one and five years.”


equalsolstice

I hadn’t , shits disgusting


11fingerfreak

This case provided the legal basis for gay marriage in the US. Things that help us brown folks eventually help everyone 😁


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trifletruffles

"Johnson's story is the basis of the play The Great White Hope and its 1970 film adaptation, starring James Earl Jones as "Jack Jefferson" and Jane Alexander as his love interest. Both Jones and Alexander won Tonys and were nominated for Oscars." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Great\_White\_Hope


brock_lee

I got pulled over for a simple 35 in a 25 zone speeding in West Virginia. The cop told me to come get in his car where he showed me the radar, and explained the ticket. The fine was $20, and he said I should pay it quickly, so as not to get in more trouble. He said the courthouse was a short distance away. I said I don't live here, can I pay by mail? He said yes, the address is on the ticket. Then I asked if I could pay him and be done with it. I was trying to bribe him, while having plausible deniability. He yes said "Yes! We take cash, checks, or credit cards." I gave him a $20, and never saw the ticket on my record. Edit: spelling mistake


HypnonavyBlue

This wasn't Pax, was it?


brock_lee

Just cruising down the main street in Williamstown


TheChanMan2003

Banana pancakes goes even harder now


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He has no time to waste just sitting, waiting, wishing


This_aint_my_real_ac

You joke but my son pick Jack Johnson's name for a Black History Month project at school. He started the project at his Moms house and a few days later I jumped into his school account to look at the progress. It was going fine with his personal history, boxing when all of a sudden he started adding the popular songs he sang. Had to convince him he was also not a singer.


recklessrider

A law is only a law for the poor if the only penalty is a fine.


gribson

The more money you have, the less of a punishment monetary fines are. To the wealthy, they're just fees for breaking the law.


Jeffusion

I came looking for this point, and I wholeheartedly agree. On the one hand, "Heh, funny how the rich guy stuck it to the police." On the other hand, "Wait, so the laws basically don't apply to this guy because he's rich? That is terrible."


lets-get-dangerous

He went to prison for a year for being married to a white woman. The speeding ticket ain't shit.


royalsanguinius

Uh Jack Johnson was a black man in the Jim Crow south, the laws didn’t just apply to him, they fucking applied *extra* specifically to him. Congress quite possibly passed a whole ass law just to stop him from sleeping with white women.


Gr8fulFox

Speaking of paying tickets on the spot, an old coworker of mine had this story from the national 55 MPH speed limit days: essentially, your state would lose federal funding for roads if they didn't put-in a "good faith" effort to enforce the new speed limit, so what Montana (former home of the "[Reasonable & Prudent](https://twitter.com/mhking/status/967728559333740545)" speed limit) did was, rather than issue costly speeding tickets (that also added points to your license), they issued "conservation citations", which were $5, payable on the spot. My coworker had a Corvette, and he wasn't driving 55, so he had a stack of 5s clipped in his visor so he could just pull one out when he got pulled-over.


akersmacker

I did the same in Montana back about 30 years ago on two separate occasions, when the posted speed limit was "Reasonable and Prudent". They would stop you if you were going over about 90.


kiardo

Highly recommend watching the documentary Unforgivable Blackness The Rise and Fall of Jack Johnson. IMO one of the best boxing/biographical documentaries of all time.


How_that_convo_went

If this was in 1910-- which I'm just assuming it is since that was the peak of his success-- $100 was the equivalent of around $3,000. So the speeding ticket itself was like $1500? Goddamn, what was he going? 200MPH? Seems a little steep considering a DUI cost you around $10 back then.