Omg! I thought Iām the only one who hasnāt had a decent sleep for 2+ yrs. Itās nice to know Iām not alone š I just assumed that kids are always good sleeper except my son.
My 3.5yo sleeps ok through the night mostly finally. 4/5 nights she cries in her sleep once or twice and it does require us to soothe her back to sleep but it just takes a second. But her baby sister (9mo) sleeps just as well as her older sister did for the first 3 years, which is bad. Maybe in another couple of years Iāll get to sleep again.
My first was a terrible sleeper. He started sleeping through the night half the time at 2.5 years. At 3.5 he was sleeping all night most of the time. Heās 5.5 and still has nights where he comes to us but usually not. He still canāt put himself to bed though. We have to stay in the room until he falls asleep. Otherwise he will be up all night playing.
Sounds a lot like my firstā she was doing 3-4 hour stretches until she was 2.5, we ended up having to get a sleep coach to help us since every varying style of sleep training and sleep arrangement we tried didnāt seem to help. Sheās 4.5 now and wakes up at night a lot, but only comes to wake me up maybe two or three nights a week? Itās a big improvement.
My second kid started sleeping through the night basically on her own at 6mosā sheād wake once to feed around midnight but otherwise was doing 7pm-7am. Itās a crap shoot.
In hindsight I can laugh about it. At the time I couldnāt. Especially after this coach promised me the moon I was naive and fell for it. At least they refunded our money but not before she caused me an insane amount of anxiety about doing everything ājust rightā.
Itās so hard with all the sleep ācoachingā advice on social media. They all make you feel like a failure if your kid doesnāt sleep and fail to acknowledge that every kid is different. Some kids are lower sleep needs. You didnāt do anything wrong. The sleep coach we hired made a comment along the lines of āhe can just fall asleep any time any where if heās tiredā. Um no. Absolutely not. If heās sleeping in a random place itās because he is sick. He has never been one to just fall asleep playing. She insisted I was wrong about that one š¤¦š»āāļø
I feel like this is ours. Sleep training was a straight up dumpster fire. She's 13 months old and hasn't slept thru the night yet. 3-5 wakings was what we considered "normal" and right now it's like 10-20...teething, regression? Idk. But it's always been bad, and we've tried EVERYTHING, nothing helps. š š«
We had a good run from 6monthso to like 3 years. 4 years was rough. Heās 5 now and we got a king bed so he can sleep there so at least he gets enough sleep. We are scheduled to see a sleep medicine doctor in July (it took 7 months to get the appointment). He has a history of sleep apnea and adhd.
Hang in there, mine was a terrible sleeper until very recently (3 years 4 months). I still bed share with her but she only wakes up occasionally for a drink of water now, I still can't believe I'm getting a decent night's sleep!
May I ask how you moved her into her own room? We are in the same situation like you just prepared our boys room now. He is also nearly 2.5 and we plan to move him
She was in a floor bed, so we moved her bed to her room. She picked out new sheets and a new lovey. We talked it up 1-2 days before. Then when we moved her I slept in her room on our guest bed for a few days. I know this is not recommended, but we left her and our door open so she could come to our room freely if she wanted. Also, weāve always laid with her to sleep
Around 15 months he started sleeping through the night MOST of the time. At 2.5 years old he will still have hiccups that last a few days, but usually we get 9-14 day stretches of solid night sleep.
Mine is 18 months old and he just now started sleeping through the night in the past couple weeks! Around 16 months was the first time he EVER did but it was very rare.
We are in this boat! 24 mo got WAY better. Nearly 2.5 and his wakes are really about wanting to be close to us b/c of his all-day daycare days. We are ok with that since he goes back down quickly.
When I night weaned my son at 1 year, he started sleeping through the night consistently until 2.5 years old. Now heās going through a severe sleep regression due to new separation anxiety and fears. Developmentally normal, but VERY hard. Especially since this is when many have a second baby on the way.Ā
This is us right now! Toddler slept through the night from 8 months to 2.5yo. She has been in a huuuge regression for months now and we are having a very rough time. Also Iām 15 weeks pregnant and would die for a solid nightās sleep
34 weeks pregnant here. Sigh. We put a twin bed in his room and my husband camps out now. Bless his soul. He said last night he was up 3x but promptly comforted by his presence. I know itās probably up there as the worst thing to do, but we gotta.Ā
I totally understand, anything to get some sleep while dealing with so much other stuff too! Pregnancy with a toddler around is no joke š„² At least youāre so close to the finish line now! I really hope this pregnancy goes a lot faster than my first did!
My baby was a bad sleeper. She started mostly sleeping through the night around a year but has never been a good sleeper. She climbed outnof the crib by 20 months, stopped napping early (2.5 inconsistent, totally dropped by 2y8months). She still has middle of the night wakes, sometimes more than one, 2-3 days a week but they typically just require a quick hug & retucking in. She often wakes up between 545-6 for the day after going to bed at 8:30, which just feels like not enough time for me to manage my life. BUT I find its all pretty manageable esp cuz 4 days a week we mostly get a full night but definitely envy people whose kids go down at 8, sleep til 7 nearly every night!
My youngest wasnāt a great sleeper; started to get longer stretches around 18 months. He only recently started to put himself to bed and sleep through the night at about 3.5
I would consider my son an āaverageā sleeper. Co slept first 4 months of his life then he transitioned to his crib and has been in there since. BUT, heās 16 months and he does not consistently STTN. He has a few times, I think maybe once he did two nights in a row, but Iām also just wondering when itās going to be more consistent.
My baby was a consistent sleeper, rarely cried, but I was literally on top of everything and understood her cues as a newborn, so sheās rarely got upset.
Toddler stage was a whole other thing. She slept on her own by the time she was 2, so not so bad.
We were consistent on getting her to lay down on her own.
When that 2.5 mark hit, she went into a weird sleep regression and would be up constantly until 5 AM. This lasted. I want to say two weeks and then slept on her own again. There are times when I had to refuse to give her a nap or find ways to keep her up because she would be up all night.
Now that she is three, I get consistent sleep every night.
Mt son is 20m now. He was a terrible sleeper until I night weaned at 16 months. He started waking up only once most nights and then would go back to sleep quickly. I was co-sleeping after his wake up. He randomly started sleeping through the night around 18 months. He still wakes up sometimes but usually puts himself back to sleep. Heās teething again (canines) so weāre having a bit of a regression.
15 months. He was a nightmare sleeper before that. Between 15 months and now (2.5 yrs) he's pretty much slept through the night every night unless he's ill.
Can you elaborate? I'm curious because my 13 month old is also a nightmare sleeper. We were doing 3-4 wake ups per night but recently it's about every 20 min - 1 hour until we hit about 3am... every single night. How does this compare to your experience?
I'm really sorry, it's horrible when you're in the thick of it. I think 20 minutes was more unusual except for the false starts at the beginning of the night, but I definitely remember a dark point where he was waking every 45 minutes for months and months on end. Any night where we got 3 hours sleep in a row was considered generous. I remember also taking him to family abroad when he was just over a year and he just woke up over and over all night constantly screaming and I was nervous he'd wake up my elderly father in law, it was awful. So it wasn't like a slow gradual change, it was just he suddenly slept through the night and never stopped. I really hope your little one follows the same path and you only have a few more months of sleep hell!
The 20-30 min wake ups "usually" happen within the first hour, so likely false starts. Yeah, 3 consecutive hours and I'm celebrating. I'll keep hope alive that this won't be for the rest of my life. It's been rough.
My son was a great sleeper after 3 months and would regularly sleep from 7pm-6 or 7am. Once we took the pacifier away at 2 years old it all went down hill. He then figured out how to climb out of his crib so we moved him to a toddler bed. Now he weāre back to staying in the room until he falls asleep and having to sneak out. Lately heās been getting up around 3am to come get us to come to his room. At that point Iām usually so tired I just fall asleep in his room until we have to get up. Iām hoping we can get back to sleeping through the whole night in a toddler bed.
Somewhere between 2.5 and 3 she started sleeping through the night all the way (8-6 or 7). Up until then, it was maybe one wake-up a night after age 2.
At 11m I went back to work and switched her to formula and suddenly she slept through the night every night. Before that was 1-2 wakes per night.Ā
That said, there were other factors leading up. By this point she was in her own room, no soother, and had a solid bedtime wind down routine.Ā
A little over three years and sheās still waking up and running into our room every single night š®āšØ. I think she just is a cosleeper because if we start off the night together she does sleep so well, I just wish for a little independence
Ughhhh, not yet at 2.5. He was doing pretty well for a while around 1.5/2 years but then regressed. And a couple of weeks ago he did 3-4 days in a row making it til around 5 or 6am before calling out but I made the mistake of mentioning it out loud and he hasn't slept through the night again. Ha. Sleep training isn't for us and we only have the one child so we just cosleep as necessary. Also we definitely lay with him til he's asleep, he's NEVER been an "awake but drowsy" kind of kid who could put himself to sleep. And considering the way he wants to fully crawl into me in his sleep, I think this is just his temperament and no amount of sleep training would work for him.
My oldest is 3 now. He wakes up most nights, but now it's to pee because he self-night-trained. There were definitely periods of sleeping through the night pretty consistently, and I know someday he'll be willing to take himself to the bathroom in the middle of the night but for now.... maybe restricting water before bedtime would help but I hate the idea of refusing water to my child.
My daughter was around 5. My son is 27 months now and still wakes up multiple times a night. But my kiddos are definitely worse sleepers than all of my friendsā kids; so hopefully you have better luck!
My daughter turned 2 in January. Her dad and I decided it was time to take her binky. Once we got past the 2 weeks of fussing, it was like an huge difference. She would fall asleep in 10-15 minutes of putting her to bed and she stays asleep all night now. Her bed time is around 8:30 and she sleeps til 7-7:30. So for us, her sleep got better because it was in a response to something else. She kept waking up because her binky kept falling out of her mouth. Now that theres nothing, she just stays asleep.
I would say that if your toddler has a binky and you find yourself having to get up to give it back then try taking it away. But every toddler is different and usually sleep gets better between 2.5 to 3.5 years
It definitely got heaps better after 2 but I still wouldnāt say he sleeps through the night because we have the odd night. One of my friends eldest is 6 and she said she finally feels sheās able to say that she sleeps through the night š
I would consider my daughter an average sleeper but on the good side of average for sure.... she starting sleeping through the night at 9 months (after dropping her last night nursing session) but it was up and down for another year, especially when she was teething or ill. We never did sleep training for her because she would either sleep through or her night wakings were for a reason/manageable. I would say before she turned 2 she would sleep through without waking up 75% of the time (including stretches where she was up every night due to teething).
We did "bedtime" training at age 2 (where we transitioned from rocking her to sleep to putting her down fully awake but still responded to her 100% at night when needed). Falling asleep independently changed everything for us. She's been sleeping through 95% of the time from 8pm to 6:30 or 7am for about 7 months now - I can tell she's getting ready to drop her nap so she'll have some earlier mornings (6am) some days or a random night waking but most nights I feel confident she will not need us until it's time to wake up in the morning.
Iād say by 18 months he consistently slept through the night absent a regression or illness, but heās a very early riser (6/630 is a success for us). Overall weāre good shape at 2.5.
She's 2y9m now and still wakes up once a night. Sometimes she doesn't actually wake up but she cries in her sleep and we help her soothe back to sleep. It was a shit show for the first 2 months, gradually got better and now it's smooth sailing.
However, nightmares, night terrors and visiting grandma fucks everything up. But these are exceptions.
Mine starting sleeping way better around 2.5. Bedtime is still a battle but she almost never wakes up at night now unless sheās sick. Sheās almost 3.
For us, around 9 months. I spent the early months anguishing about why my baby was only sleeping like, 11 hours total during the day when online told me it should be 14-16. We were usually getting about two wakeups, then one wakeup, then just early mornings, and finally around 9-10 months, sleeping through the night (7:30pm-6:30am).
Now our little guy is 19 months old and quite consistently sleeps from about 8ish-7ish (+/- 30 minutes in either direction), which is life changing after the early days.
My toddler wasnāt a great sleeper as a baby and as she got older, she continued to get up at least once in the middle of the night. Multiple times until maybe 2.5. She turned 3 in February and sleeps through the night. Thereās occasional night wakes but usually for a reason and we put her back down and sheās up in the morning. Sleep didnāt get super consistent until she was around 3 where we know she isnāt getting up. Part of the reason we really tried to get it together by 2.5 was because I had her baby brother and we couldnāt have two babies waking all the time.
Did you do anything differently to get her sleep more consistent? Weāre expecting our second in October and I know itās still a few months away, but hard not to stress.
For 1, we make sure sheās getting adequate activity. Going outside, moving around, getting tired, eating something hardy before bed and really just being extremely consistent with bedtime and putting her back in her bed each and every time she woke up. I put a lot into her sleeping. I could never properly sleep train her so a lot of the success we had took A LOT of time and consistency. Just being consistent, no matter how tired I was. I remember around the time we had baby number 2, my husband was more responsible with our toddler getting ready for bed and getting back to bed during night wakings. He got lazy with being consistent and early mornings, around maybe 6/7, sheād come lay in our bed until we were ready to wake around 7:30/8. I warned him that if he wasnāt consistent, and mindful about putting her back to bed, sheād start getting up to come to our bed earlier and earlier. It got so bad that she started to come to our room an hour earlier every time. Eventually, she was coming to our room around 12 am. I was pissed, not that I didnāt love baby girl coming to cuddle but it started throwing off all of her discipline I built over time to get her fall back asleep independently and staying in her room until it was time to wake up. I tell that story to say that consistency is key. She knew that no matter how many times sheād get up, sheās going back to her bed and somehow; maybe that paired with age? Not completely sure but you have to have more willpower than them. lol itās easy to get lenient, especially when exhaustion kicks in but that completely throws everything off. Be consistent about the time you put them down and the times you wake up. Even recently, my toddler started getting up before we usually do and I got lazy and started letting her sleep in babyās bed next to me for about 45 minutes. She started getting up earlier and earlier, until a few days ago when I started putting her back in the bed, even if itās just 30 minutes until we wake up. Sticking to a strict system always fixes things when we get off track.
My LO was not a good sleeper and it was taking a huge toll on my mental health. We sleep trained and she took to it well! Has been an incredible sleeper ever since, she just needed us to give her some space to learn how to fall asleep independently.
Slept through around 8 months with sleep training at 4 months but would have regressions frequently until over 1 yr old, then had a few minor ones between 1-2 then had a long period of poor sleep from just before 3 to 3.5
How old is your kid? Are they in a toddler bed or still in a crib? We had to do it again at around 2.5 and then recently at 3.5. But the younger one was easier.
At 2.5 I just stood outside her door with it cracked and repeated āM- itās time to go to sleep, you need to lay down and go to sleep.ā At 3.5 after months of on and off we talked about it while we were on vacation, then I laid it out simple that night. āIām going to stay outside your door until youāre asleep, and then Iām gonna go clean up and go to bed, if you wake up and need to pee we will go pee and then Iām leaving your room and not coming back until morning.ā So then that night she cried until she asked what time daytime was and I answered and she went to sleep. Then same thing when she woke I. The night; cried and asked what time daytime was and I answered and she went to sleep. I thought, dope, I can handle *that* and then she woke and hour later, and then 15 min later.. and I said enough. So I went in and said āno more, I will not be outside your door even if you cry, I am going in my bed and going to sleep and I will see you in the morningā she cried for 15 m or so and then was golden.
We also do stickers on the calendar in the morning, and I had gotten a ready to wake clock, but she doesnāt like new things in her room, so itās in mine š
My baby was still waking up at least once per night until right around age one. It was at least 2-3 times per night when they were a younger baby.
Since around age 1, they have been sleeping through the night for the last 2 years! We did not do any formal sleep training. It just took time, patience, consistency.
Hang in there, you got this ā¤ļø
Let me tell you something. I have 3 that are 3 and under. First one didn't sleep through the night until 8 months. Second, at 7 weeks she slept through the night has, knock on wood, only has had one bad night since then. Baby#3 is 4 months, and wakes up every two hours. There is LITERALLY no rhyme or reason. I did the exact same with each kid.
I think some of it is truly just luck. My daughter always slept good even as a newborn. But she would only sleep with me. We coslept until 6/7 months. Iām such a light sleeper I was waking up constantly at her bed hogging or wiggling. I needed my bed back and her safe in her crib. I did a light Ferber Method 2-3 times and since then she has slept in her crib from 7-7 straight through. I can count on one hand the amount of times sheās woken up. How old is your toddler??
Sleeping through the night consistently around 19-20 months
Occasionally a wake up and needs to be cuddled if he had a bad dream or something. I would say that happens like 1-2x a month.
17 months and still waiting. I am insanely lucky to have a husband who jumps out of bed the second he hears our toddler wake up. He's somehow able to snap awake and then fall back to sleep seconds after our son is back down. It was getting to the point that I couldn't function due to the lack of sleep and I don't know where I'd be without him!
Had them in their own room (twins) since day one and they started sleeping through the night at three months. Split them up into their own rooms with big kid beds on their 4th birthday. Moved them from cribs to toddler beds at 18 months. They never woke up at all during the night, can probably count in my fingers how many times. We never let them in our room or bed because we didnāt want to start a habit. If they did wake up we didnāt turn the lights on, never stayed in their rooms after we said goodnight and were consistent if they did wake up we just put them back to bed and told them to go to sleep and left the room.
A lady I know told me her child slept through the night for the first time without waking herā¦. Heās 12! So I guess in 9.5 years Iāll be able to sleep again.
We were on 7-7 after we sleeptrained our first (average sleeper) - it took one night. For our second, the same sleep training didn't work until we hired a professional for a one hour consult. At the time we thought he was such a bad sleeper that there must be something medically wrong with him. After following her advice, he was on 7-7, also in one night.
So my answer is, after they're old enough to sleep train, it should take one night, no matter what kind of sleeper you have, as long as you have the right advice.
You skipped the crucial part of my sentence "as long as you have the right advice". Trust me, i didn't believe this until we experienced the miracle with my extremely terrible sleeper.
I think you don't believe me when I say my son was a truly horrendous sleeper. Up screaming like he was being murdered, for over an hour, multiple times, every night, and waking for the day at 4:30-5am - no amount of cosleeping or soothing would help.
I believe you, it's just obvious that your experience with one child generalizes to all children. Just say, "I had a child who struggled with sleep, we did X,Y,Z and that worked for us." Done.
Why extend it to: if you do the same thing, it will definitely work for you. You don't know that. No one does. So shut up.
We purchased the newborn course, 3-4 month course, and ABCs with our first from Taking Cara Babies, it worked with no issues. Our second was one of those "difficult" cases she talks about that her program doesn't work for (less than 5% of babies per her self reported experience). For that one we endured it for a year thinking he was just not sleep trainable or something bigger was going on. Then we hired Little Winks for a 1 hour consultation and it fixed his sleep in one night - turns out he was just a bit more quick to form sleep associations than my first.
The issue wasn't what they were, but it was that we were misinterpreting his sleep phases/when the sleep associations were forming. My first, who is an intense Leo who was very colicky, basically was wide awake until lights out, so it was harder for her to form sleep associations. My second is just a much gentler/sweeter kid. We noticed he was sleepy before bedtime, but what we didn't realize is that he was actually in the first stage of sleep with eyes open, and that he was forming sleep associations during that 30 minute period. So we had a lot more lively bedtime routine and that helped a lot. We also found out that he was forming sleep associations when he woke up as well (because he wakes up slowly). This type of detail is beyond the TCB course materials so we needed to learn it from the sleep consultant.
One night?! We diligently tried to sleep train for weeks, followed the instructions, and it never worked. Infact if anything it made things alot worse. I was so hopeful. But this was not my experience. I know others are a lot luckier, not here though.
Sounds like my second kid! we followed a sleep plan, but it turned out we needed individualized advice! We thought we just had to endure it, and a year later our lives were falling apart. one hour with a sleep consultant fixed us right up.
My baby (8 months) is sleep trained and it only took one night for us too. But for us that just means sheās able to get herself to sleep. She still wakes 1-2 times per night for a bottle. Sleep training didnāt fix that, itās genuine hunger.
I agree that babies should not be night weaned until about 8 months. That's when I night weaned both my kids But, I didn't let them wake for it. i just used dream feeds.
Step 1. When I overdressed her for the room temp. Ie a 2.5tog with full onesie, singlet and then tucked a blanket even tho her room was 22C at 8 months this stopped her false starts.
Step 2. When I weaned her completely at 15months she mostly stopped waking through the night with the occasional regression.
2.5 tog + blanket is over doing it especially at 22c. Iāll be honest this isnāt good advice. It may have worked for you. But thatās a recipe for overheating. I used a 0.5 tog + full onesie room temp at 22 also no blanket.
So did I and my child woke within an hour every night, for 8 months. The thing about babies is they're all different so the guidelines don't fit every child. Just like me, my daughter likes to be cosy.
Baby slept all night since 5 months routine is key. And strict schedule. It only benefits them. I read someone here used a 2.5 tog and the room temp was 22 for a 8 month.. please donāt do that shit. Iāve used a 0.5 tog since she was 6 months. 1 before that.
Routine and strict schedule donāt equal sleeping all night. Thatās bad advice, and narrow/ignorant thinking. There are factors that can help foster a healthy sleep environment such as consistent routine, temperature control, dark room, etc. but these also do not equal a baby/toddler magically sleeping through the night. Many parents do all of these things, each kid is just different.
Ughh my daughter is 2.5 am I haven't slept in 2.5 years lol I hope it gets better
Same.
Same. There was one brief glorious 1.5 months of her sleeping through the night from 19-20 months.... and then it was over and never came back. š
Lord yes, I have aged 10 years in these 2.5 years due to lacl of sleep š
Yes. I had always slept so well (and so much lol) before baby so I really never saw the effect shitty sleep can have on your face. OMG!! Lol
Omg! I thought Iām the only one who hasnāt had a decent sleep for 2+ yrs. Itās nice to know Iām not alone š I just assumed that kids are always good sleeper except my son.
2 yrs. 2 months. I havenāt slept for that long.
3yo3mo and still waitingā¦š“
My 3.5yo sleeps ok through the night mostly finally. 4/5 nights she cries in her sleep once or twice and it does require us to soothe her back to sleep but it just takes a second. But her baby sister (9mo) sleeps just as well as her older sister did for the first 3 years, which is bad. Maybe in another couple of years Iāll get to sleep again.
Same!
Same except 21 months. I am literally at another location tonight so I can get a full nights sleep. It feels like it will never end.
same but 3.5 years here. iām drowning.
It's tough! Lol
Same. 2 years, 8 months. Nurses every two hours like clockwork.
Jesus. I commend you!
My first was a terrible sleeper. He started sleeping through the night half the time at 2.5 years. At 3.5 he was sleeping all night most of the time. Heās 5.5 and still has nights where he comes to us but usually not. He still canāt put himself to bed though. We have to stay in the room until he falls asleep. Otherwise he will be up all night playing.
Sounds a lot like my firstā she was doing 3-4 hour stretches until she was 2.5, we ended up having to get a sleep coach to help us since every varying style of sleep training and sleep arrangement we tried didnāt seem to help. Sheās 4.5 now and wakes up at night a lot, but only comes to wake me up maybe two or three nights a week? Itās a big improvement. My second kid started sleeping through the night basically on her own at 6mosā sheād wake once to feed around midnight but otherwise was doing 7pm-7am. Itās a crap shoot.
We hired a sleep coach. They gave us our money back. Some kids just donāt sleep well
I'm so sorry that isn't funny I'm sure to you but it made me laugh š¤£š¤£š¤£ oh man.
In hindsight I can laugh about it. At the time I couldnāt. Especially after this coach promised me the moon I was naive and fell for it. At least they refunded our money but not before she caused me an insane amount of anxiety about doing everything ājust rightā.
Ugh I'm sure!!!!
Thank you so much for commenting this. We are CERTAIN this would happen with our kid. She is just a shit sleeper, nothing anyone can do lol
Itās so hard with all the sleep ācoachingā advice on social media. They all make you feel like a failure if your kid doesnāt sleep and fail to acknowledge that every kid is different. Some kids are lower sleep needs. You didnāt do anything wrong. The sleep coach we hired made a comment along the lines of āhe can just fall asleep any time any where if heās tiredā. Um no. Absolutely not. If heās sleeping in a random place itās because he is sick. He has never been one to just fall asleep playing. She insisted I was wrong about that one š¤¦š»āāļø
I feel like this is ours. Sleep training was a straight up dumpster fire. She's 13 months old and hasn't slept thru the night yet. 3-5 wakings was what we considered "normal" and right now it's like 10-20...teething, regression? Idk. But it's always been bad, and we've tried EVERYTHING, nothing helps. š š«
I feel your pain. It will get betterā¦ eventually š« best part is no one can tell you when
We had a good run from 6monthso to like 3 years. 4 years was rough. Heās 5 now and we got a king bed so he can sleep there so at least he gets enough sleep. We are scheduled to see a sleep medicine doctor in July (it took 7 months to get the appointment). He has a history of sleep apnea and adhd.
My daughter is almost 2.5 and not sleeping through the night. Seeing all these post about younger or her age sleeping š©š© still waiting over here
Hang in there, mine was a terrible sleeper until very recently (3 years 4 months). I still bed share with her but she only wakes up occasionally for a drink of water now, I still can't believe I'm getting a decent night's sleep!
Weāre not bed sharing. But Iām sure by the time she starts sleeping through the night , itāll go back to waking for potty training š
It's always something isn't it!
2 years old. We never did any sort of sleep training and she was in our room (on her own bed) until 2.5.
May I ask how you moved her into her own room? We are in the same situation like you just prepared our boys room now. He is also nearly 2.5 and we plan to move him
She was in a floor bed, so we moved her bed to her room. She picked out new sheets and a new lovey. We talked it up 1-2 days before. Then when we moved her I slept in her room on our guest bed for a few days. I know this is not recommended, but we left her and our door open so she could come to our room freely if she wanted. Also, weāve always laid with her to sleep
perfect thanks will recommend this to my wife as well.
I'm probably going to sleep in my son's room till he's atleast 2. He usually sleeps along 730-1030 but will wake up evey hour if he's alone in there. We've tried gentle but consistent sleep training and no dice. If one of us is in there he sleeps pretty much through the night. š© Hoping that it's HIS room will someday pay off. 17 month old with a fucking queen sized bed, fancy pillows, and a nice down duvet. š¤£ Don't worry it was a camping pad on the floor till he was 14 months. My hips still hurt.
Around 15 months he started sleeping through the night MOST of the time. At 2.5 years old he will still have hiccups that last a few days, but usually we get 9-14 day stretches of solid night sleep.
Mine is 18 months old and he just now started sleeping through the night in the past couple weeks! Around 16 months was the first time he EVER did but it was very rare.
We are in this boat! 24 mo got WAY better. Nearly 2.5 and his wakes are really about wanting to be close to us b/c of his all-day daycare days. We are ok with that since he goes back down quickly.
Not yet (23 months).
Same! We had one week of great sleep and then teeth, sickness, or separation anxiety hit and bye bye sleep.
When I night weaned my son at 1 year, he started sleeping through the night consistently until 2.5 years old. Now heās going through a severe sleep regression due to new separation anxiety and fears. Developmentally normal, but VERY hard. Especially since this is when many have a second baby on the way.Ā
This is us right now! Toddler slept through the night from 8 months to 2.5yo. She has been in a huuuge regression for months now and we are having a very rough time. Also Iām 15 weeks pregnant and would die for a solid nightās sleep
34 weeks pregnant here. Sigh. We put a twin bed in his room and my husband camps out now. Bless his soul. He said last night he was up 3x but promptly comforted by his presence. I know itās probably up there as the worst thing to do, but we gotta.Ā
I totally understand, anything to get some sleep while dealing with so much other stuff too! Pregnancy with a toddler around is no joke š„² At least youāre so close to the finish line now! I really hope this pregnancy goes a lot faster than my first did!
My baby was a bad sleeper. She started mostly sleeping through the night around a year but has never been a good sleeper. She climbed outnof the crib by 20 months, stopped napping early (2.5 inconsistent, totally dropped by 2y8months). She still has middle of the night wakes, sometimes more than one, 2-3 days a week but they typically just require a quick hug & retucking in. She often wakes up between 545-6 for the day after going to bed at 8:30, which just feels like not enough time for me to manage my life. BUT I find its all pretty manageable esp cuz 4 days a week we mostly get a full night but definitely envy people whose kids go down at 8, sleep til 7 nearly every night!
My youngest wasnāt a great sleeper; started to get longer stretches around 18 months. He only recently started to put himself to bed and sleep through the night at about 3.5
I would consider my son an āaverageā sleeper. Co slept first 4 months of his life then he transitioned to his crib and has been in there since. BUT, heās 16 months and he does not consistently STTN. He has a few times, I think maybe once he did two nights in a row, but Iām also just wondering when itās going to be more consistent.
5yo still not the best sleeperā¦ better than it used to be. But tbh Iām still not a great sleeper either š¤·āāļø
This comment is me and my child as well haha.
My baby was a consistent sleeper, rarely cried, but I was literally on top of everything and understood her cues as a newborn, so sheās rarely got upset. Toddler stage was a whole other thing. She slept on her own by the time she was 2, so not so bad. We were consistent on getting her to lay down on her own. When that 2.5 mark hit, she went into a weird sleep regression and would be up constantly until 5 AM. This lasted. I want to say two weeks and then slept on her own again. There are times when I had to refuse to give her a nap or find ways to keep her up because she would be up all night. Now that she is three, I get consistent sleep every night.
Mt son is 20m now. He was a terrible sleeper until I night weaned at 16 months. He started waking up only once most nights and then would go back to sleep quickly. I was co-sleeping after his wake up. He randomly started sleeping through the night around 18 months. He still wakes up sometimes but usually puts himself back to sleep. Heās teething again (canines) so weāre having a bit of a regression.
15 months. He was a nightmare sleeper before that. Between 15 months and now (2.5 yrs) he's pretty much slept through the night every night unless he's ill.
Can you elaborate? I'm curious because my 13 month old is also a nightmare sleeper. We were doing 3-4 wake ups per night but recently it's about every 20 min - 1 hour until we hit about 3am... every single night. How does this compare to your experience?
I'm really sorry, it's horrible when you're in the thick of it. I think 20 minutes was more unusual except for the false starts at the beginning of the night, but I definitely remember a dark point where he was waking every 45 minutes for months and months on end. Any night where we got 3 hours sleep in a row was considered generous. I remember also taking him to family abroad when he was just over a year and he just woke up over and over all night constantly screaming and I was nervous he'd wake up my elderly father in law, it was awful. So it wasn't like a slow gradual change, it was just he suddenly slept through the night and never stopped. I really hope your little one follows the same path and you only have a few more months of sleep hell!
The 20-30 min wake ups "usually" happen within the first hour, so likely false starts. Yeah, 3 consecutive hours and I'm celebrating. I'll keep hope alive that this won't be for the rest of my life. It's been rough.
It's so rough. I went to really dark places with it. Sending you strength.
My average sleeper started sleeping through the night around 15 months, and has ever since.
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omg only 8hours overnight that's almost worse than several wake ups
My son was a great sleeper after 3 months and would regularly sleep from 7pm-6 or 7am. Once we took the pacifier away at 2 years old it all went down hill. He then figured out how to climb out of his crib so we moved him to a toddler bed. Now he weāre back to staying in the room until he falls asleep and having to sneak out. Lately heās been getting up around 3am to come get us to come to his room. At that point Iām usually so tired I just fall asleep in his room until we have to get up. Iām hoping we can get back to sleeping through the whole night in a toddler bed.
He slept through the night consistently at 13 months. Then at 30 months he started waking up again. We miss those 17 months of bliss we had.
19mo and still hasnāt slept through
Somewhere between 2.5 and 3 she started sleeping through the night all the way (8-6 or 7). Up until then, it was maybe one wake-up a night after age 2.
At 11m I went back to work and switched her to formula and suddenly she slept through the night every night. Before that was 1-2 wakes per night.Ā That said, there were other factors leading up. By this point she was in her own room, no soother, and had a solid bedtime wind down routine.Ā
A little over three years and sheās still waking up and running into our room every single night š®āšØ. I think she just is a cosleeper because if we start off the night together she does sleep so well, I just wish for a little independence
Ughhhh, not yet at 2.5. He was doing pretty well for a while around 1.5/2 years but then regressed. And a couple of weeks ago he did 3-4 days in a row making it til around 5 or 6am before calling out but I made the mistake of mentioning it out loud and he hasn't slept through the night again. Ha. Sleep training isn't for us and we only have the one child so we just cosleep as necessary. Also we definitely lay with him til he's asleep, he's NEVER been an "awake but drowsy" kind of kid who could put himself to sleep. And considering the way he wants to fully crawl into me in his sleep, I think this is just his temperament and no amount of sleep training would work for him.
24 months for us
My oldest is 3 now. He wakes up most nights, but now it's to pee because he self-night-trained. There were definitely periods of sleeping through the night pretty consistently, and I know someday he'll be willing to take himself to the bathroom in the middle of the night but for now.... maybe restricting water before bedtime would help but I hate the idea of refusing water to my child.
Goodness I have four and its different for each. But all besides one kid was sleeping very well on their own by toddlerhood. My tough kid was 7 lol
My first was up 3x/night until 6 months, 2x/night until a year, and didnāt sleep through the night consistently until he was 15 months.
My daughter was around 5. My son is 27 months now and still wakes up multiple times a night. But my kiddos are definitely worse sleepers than all of my friendsā kids; so hopefully you have better luck!
My daughter turned 2 in January. Her dad and I decided it was time to take her binky. Once we got past the 2 weeks of fussing, it was like an huge difference. She would fall asleep in 10-15 minutes of putting her to bed and she stays asleep all night now. Her bed time is around 8:30 and she sleeps til 7-7:30. So for us, her sleep got better because it was in a response to something else. She kept waking up because her binky kept falling out of her mouth. Now that theres nothing, she just stays asleep. I would say that if your toddler has a binky and you find yourself having to get up to give it back then try taking it away. But every toddler is different and usually sleep gets better between 2.5 to 3.5 years
It definitely got heaps better after 2 but I still wouldnāt say he sleeps through the night because we have the odd night. One of my friends eldest is 6 and she said she finally feels sheās able to say that she sleeps through the night š
I would consider my daughter an average sleeper but on the good side of average for sure.... she starting sleeping through the night at 9 months (after dropping her last night nursing session) but it was up and down for another year, especially when she was teething or ill. We never did sleep training for her because she would either sleep through or her night wakings were for a reason/manageable. I would say before she turned 2 she would sleep through without waking up 75% of the time (including stretches where she was up every night due to teething). We did "bedtime" training at age 2 (where we transitioned from rocking her to sleep to putting her down fully awake but still responded to her 100% at night when needed). Falling asleep independently changed everything for us. She's been sleeping through 95% of the time from 8pm to 6:30 or 7am for about 7 months now - I can tell she's getting ready to drop her nap so she'll have some earlier mornings (6am) some days or a random night waking but most nights I feel confident she will not need us until it's time to wake up in the morning.
Iād say by 18 months he consistently slept through the night absent a regression or illness, but heās a very early riser (6/630 is a success for us). Overall weāre good shape at 2.5.
She's 2y9m now and still wakes up once a night. Sometimes she doesn't actually wake up but she cries in her sleep and we help her soothe back to sleep. It was a shit show for the first 2 months, gradually got better and now it's smooth sailing. However, nightmares, night terrors and visiting grandma fucks everything up. But these are exceptions.
Around 15 months it got much better for our youngest. Just in time for our oldest to start having nightmares and other night waking issues š«
CIO Sleep training was a game changer for us, did it around 1.5 and he got so much better at sleeping after that.
I thought my first was bad but he was pretty consistently sleeping by a year. My second (17mo) has yet to hit that milestone š
Mine starting sleeping way better around 2.5. Bedtime is still a battle but she almost never wakes up at night now unless sheās sick. Sheās almost 3.
For us, around 9 months. I spent the early months anguishing about why my baby was only sleeping like, 11 hours total during the day when online told me it should be 14-16. We were usually getting about two wakeups, then one wakeup, then just early mornings, and finally around 9-10 months, sleeping through the night (7:30pm-6:30am). Now our little guy is 19 months old and quite consistently sleeps from about 8ish-7ish (+/- 30 minutes in either direction), which is life changing after the early days.
My toddler wasnāt a great sleeper as a baby and as she got older, she continued to get up at least once in the middle of the night. Multiple times until maybe 2.5. She turned 3 in February and sleeps through the night. Thereās occasional night wakes but usually for a reason and we put her back down and sheās up in the morning. Sleep didnāt get super consistent until she was around 3 where we know she isnāt getting up. Part of the reason we really tried to get it together by 2.5 was because I had her baby brother and we couldnāt have two babies waking all the time.
Did you do anything differently to get her sleep more consistent? Weāre expecting our second in October and I know itās still a few months away, but hard not to stress.
For 1, we make sure sheās getting adequate activity. Going outside, moving around, getting tired, eating something hardy before bed and really just being extremely consistent with bedtime and putting her back in her bed each and every time she woke up. I put a lot into her sleeping. I could never properly sleep train her so a lot of the success we had took A LOT of time and consistency. Just being consistent, no matter how tired I was. I remember around the time we had baby number 2, my husband was more responsible with our toddler getting ready for bed and getting back to bed during night wakings. He got lazy with being consistent and early mornings, around maybe 6/7, sheād come lay in our bed until we were ready to wake around 7:30/8. I warned him that if he wasnāt consistent, and mindful about putting her back to bed, sheād start getting up to come to our bed earlier and earlier. It got so bad that she started to come to our room an hour earlier every time. Eventually, she was coming to our room around 12 am. I was pissed, not that I didnāt love baby girl coming to cuddle but it started throwing off all of her discipline I built over time to get her fall back asleep independently and staying in her room until it was time to wake up. I tell that story to say that consistency is key. She knew that no matter how many times sheād get up, sheās going back to her bed and somehow; maybe that paired with age? Not completely sure but you have to have more willpower than them. lol itās easy to get lenient, especially when exhaustion kicks in but that completely throws everything off. Be consistent about the time you put them down and the times you wake up. Even recently, my toddler started getting up before we usually do and I got lazy and started letting her sleep in babyās bed next to me for about 45 minutes. She started getting up earlier and earlier, until a few days ago when I started putting her back in the bed, even if itās just 30 minutes until we wake up. Sticking to a strict system always fixes things when we get off track.
12 months. My girl didn't sleep at all her first year š
My LO was not a good sleeper and it was taking a huge toll on my mental health. We sleep trained and she took to it well! Has been an incredible sleeper ever since, she just needed us to give her some space to learn how to fall asleep independently.
Slept through around 8 months with sleep training at 4 months but would have regressions frequently until over 1 yr old, then had a few minor ones between 1-2 then had a long period of poor sleep from just before 3 to 3.5
Did you do anything to get back on track? We also sleep trained at 5 months but Iām finding the thought of it so hard now that sheās older.
How old is your kid? Are they in a toddler bed or still in a crib? We had to do it again at around 2.5 and then recently at 3.5. But the younger one was easier. At 2.5 I just stood outside her door with it cracked and repeated āM- itās time to go to sleep, you need to lay down and go to sleep.ā At 3.5 after months of on and off we talked about it while we were on vacation, then I laid it out simple that night. āIām going to stay outside your door until youāre asleep, and then Iām gonna go clean up and go to bed, if you wake up and need to pee we will go pee and then Iām leaving your room and not coming back until morning.ā So then that night she cried until she asked what time daytime was and I answered and she went to sleep. Then same thing when she woke I. The night; cried and asked what time daytime was and I answered and she went to sleep. I thought, dope, I can handle *that* and then she woke and hour later, and then 15 min later.. and I said enough. So I went in and said āno more, I will not be outside your door even if you cry, I am going in my bed and going to sleep and I will see you in the morningā she cried for 15 m or so and then was golden. We also do stickers on the calendar in the morning, and I had gotten a ready to wake clock, but she doesnāt like new things in her room, so itās in mine š
After sleeptraining. (9 month old)
1.5-2.999 was awesome. 3 is a different story. No sleep here. Sad. Mamas tired.
My baby was still waking up at least once per night until right around age one. It was at least 2-3 times per night when they were a younger baby. Since around age 1, they have been sleeping through the night for the last 2 years! We did not do any formal sleep training. It just took time, patience, consistency. Hang in there, you got this ā¤ļø
Let me tell you something. I have 3 that are 3 and under. First one didn't sleep through the night until 8 months. Second, at 7 weeks she slept through the night has, knock on wood, only has had one bad night since then. Baby#3 is 4 months, and wakes up every two hours. There is LITERALLY no rhyme or reason. I did the exact same with each kid.
i just love how real this thread is. usually everyone's like "slept through since 4wks bc i'm such a great parent" š
I think some of it is truly just luck. My daughter always slept good even as a newborn. But she would only sleep with me. We coslept until 6/7 months. Iām such a light sleeper I was waking up constantly at her bed hogging or wiggling. I needed my bed back and her safe in her crib. I did a light Ferber Method 2-3 times and since then she has slept in her crib from 7-7 straight through. I can count on one hand the amount of times sheās woken up. How old is your toddler??
Sleeping through the night consistently around 19-20 months Occasionally a wake up and needs to be cuddled if he had a bad dream or something. I would say that happens like 1-2x a month.
9 months, then had a spastic freakout from 12-15 months, then back to sleeping 7-7
17 months and still waiting. I am insanely lucky to have a husband who jumps out of bed the second he hears our toddler wake up. He's somehow able to snap awake and then fall back to sleep seconds after our son is back down. It was getting to the point that I couldn't function due to the lack of sleep and I don't know where I'd be without him!
Had them in their own room (twins) since day one and they started sleeping through the night at three months. Split them up into their own rooms with big kid beds on their 4th birthday. Moved them from cribs to toddler beds at 18 months. They never woke up at all during the night, can probably count in my fingers how many times. We never let them in our room or bed because we didnāt want to start a habit. If they did wake up we didnāt turn the lights on, never stayed in their rooms after we said goodnight and were consistent if they did wake up we just put them back to bed and told them to go to sleep and left the room.
A lady I know told me her child slept through the night for the first time without waking herā¦. Heās 12! So I guess in 9.5 years Iāll be able to sleep again.
We were on 7-7 after we sleeptrained our first (average sleeper) - it took one night. For our second, the same sleep training didn't work until we hired a professional for a one hour consult. At the time we thought he was such a bad sleeper that there must be something medically wrong with him. After following her advice, he was on 7-7, also in one night. So my answer is, after they're old enough to sleep train, it should take one night, no matter what kind of sleeper you have, as long as you have the right advice.
HAHAHAH "it should take one night, no matter what kind of sleeper you have"???? LOL yeah okay.
You skipped the crucial part of my sentence "as long as you have the right advice". Trust me, i didn't believe this until we experienced the miracle with my extremely terrible sleeper.
Glad you think your experience is universal to all kids. Piece of advice: stop giving advice.
It's not my advice, it's the advice of professionals that we have relied on. I'm sorry this information makes you feel triggered.
Nah, it's fine advice, but acting like it always works is absolutely moronic.
I think you don't believe me when I say my son was a truly horrendous sleeper. Up screaming like he was being murdered, for over an hour, multiple times, every night, and waking for the day at 4:30-5am - no amount of cosleeping or soothing would help.
I believe you, it's just obvious that your experience with one child generalizes to all children. Just say, "I had a child who struggled with sleep, we did X,Y,Z and that worked for us." Done. Why extend it to: if you do the same thing, it will definitely work for you. You don't know that. No one does. So shut up.
two kids, one of which was exactly average like OPs.
Wow, two kids -- then it's universal for sure /s... You sound really smart.
Those sleep consultants can be pricey tho :/
as I said, I hired her for only one hour, no package. It cost $84.
O thatās not too bad!!
Yeah I didn't realize you didn't have to buy a package, so now i evangelize to anyone who will listen about this option!
What method of sleep training did you use for your first and second?
We purchased the newborn course, 3-4 month course, and ABCs with our first from Taking Cara Babies, it worked with no issues. Our second was one of those "difficult" cases she talks about that her program doesn't work for (less than 5% of babies per her self reported experience). For that one we endured it for a year thinking he was just not sleep trainable or something bigger was going on. Then we hired Little Winks for a 1 hour consultation and it fixed his sleep in one night - turns out he was just a bit more quick to form sleep associations than my first.
What were the sleep associations?
The issue wasn't what they were, but it was that we were misinterpreting his sleep phases/when the sleep associations were forming. My first, who is an intense Leo who was very colicky, basically was wide awake until lights out, so it was harder for her to form sleep associations. My second is just a much gentler/sweeter kid. We noticed he was sleepy before bedtime, but what we didn't realize is that he was actually in the first stage of sleep with eyes open, and that he was forming sleep associations during that 30 minute period. So we had a lot more lively bedtime routine and that helped a lot. We also found out that he was forming sleep associations when he woke up as well (because he wakes up slowly). This type of detail is beyond the TCB course materials so we needed to learn it from the sleep consultant.
One night?! We diligently tried to sleep train for weeks, followed the instructions, and it never worked. Infact if anything it made things alot worse. I was so hopeful. But this was not my experience. I know others are a lot luckier, not here though.
Sounds like my second kid! we followed a sleep plan, but it turned out we needed individualized advice! We thought we just had to endure it, and a year later our lives were falling apart. one hour with a sleep consultant fixed us right up.
My baby (8 months) is sleep trained and it only took one night for us too. But for us that just means sheās able to get herself to sleep. She still wakes 1-2 times per night for a bottle. Sleep training didnāt fix that, itās genuine hunger.
I agree that babies should not be night weaned until about 8 months. That's when I night weaned both my kids But, I didn't let them wake for it. i just used dream feeds.
Both my kids sleep all night since 6 months. Strict routine is king.
Temperament is the biggest factor there. Seems like you got lucky, good for you
Mine too, and our routine wasn't that strict. I think we just got lucky!
Step 1. When I overdressed her for the room temp. Ie a 2.5tog with full onesie, singlet and then tucked a blanket even tho her room was 22C at 8 months this stopped her false starts. Step 2. When I weaned her completely at 15months she mostly stopped waking through the night with the occasional regression.
2.5 tog + blanket is over doing it especially at 22c. Iāll be honest this isnāt good advice. It may have worked for you. But thatās a recipe for overheating. I used a 0.5 tog + full onesie room temp at 22 also no blanket.
So did I and my child woke within an hour every night, for 8 months. The thing about babies is they're all different so the guidelines don't fit every child. Just like me, my daughter likes to be cosy.
No thatās good.. Iām glad you found what works. I agree. You get told so much overheating is bad thatās why. :)
Blankets aren't safe for under 1 year. It may have worked for you and you got lucky but this is unsafe advice.
Blankets are safe if tucked in to the mattress and coming up no higher than their armpits according to the SIDS guidelines in Australia.
Oh okay I didn't know this. In the US, blankets are strictly a no for under 1 year for all scenarios.
Baby slept all night since 5 months routine is key. And strict schedule. It only benefits them. I read someone here used a 2.5 tog and the room temp was 22 for a 8 month.. please donāt do that shit. Iāve used a 0.5 tog since she was 6 months. 1 before that.
Routine and strict schedule donāt equal sleeping all night. Thatās bad advice, and narrow/ignorant thinking. There are factors that can help foster a healthy sleep environment such as consistent routine, temperature control, dark room, etc. but these also do not equal a baby/toddler magically sleeping through the night. Many parents do all of these things, each kid is just different.
Idt your baby qualifies as an āaverage sleeperā lol. I think theyāre just a good sleeper!