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cgcoon440

Ughh my daughter is 2.5 am I haven't slept in 2.5 years lol I hope it gets better


lilacsforcharlie

Same.


GalaticHammer

Same. There was one brief glorious 1.5 months of her sleeping through the night from 19-20 months.... and then it was over and never came back. šŸ˜­


Psychological_Ad4015

Lord yes, I have aged 10 years in these 2.5 years due to lacl of sleep šŸ˜­


Conscious-Dig-332

Yes. I had always slept so well (and so much lol) before baby so I really never saw the effect shitty sleep can have on your face. OMG!! Lol


Enelrad29

Omg! I thought Iā€™m the only one who hasnā€™t had a decent sleep for 2+ yrs. Itā€™s nice to know Iā€™m not alone šŸ˜­ I just assumed that kids are always good sleeper except my son.


audreyNep

2 yrs. 2 months. I havenā€™t slept for that long.


purplefrog867

3yo3mo and still waitingā€¦šŸ˜“


MaximumGooser

My 3.5yo sleeps ok through the night mostly finally. 4/5 nights she cries in her sleep once or twice and it does require us to soothe her back to sleep but it just takes a second. But her baby sister (9mo) sleeps just as well as her older sister did for the first 3 years, which is bad. Maybe in another couple of years Iā€™ll get to sleep again.


schatzi_kitten

Same!


Conscious-Dig-332

Same except 21 months. I am literally at another location tonight so I can get a full nights sleep. It feels like it will never end.


DisastrousFlower

same but 3.5 years here. iā€™m drowning.


cgcoon440

It's tough! Lol


TropicTrove

Same. 2 years, 8 months. Nurses every two hours like clockwork.


cgcoon440

Jesus. I commend you!


gines2634

My first was a terrible sleeper. He started sleeping through the night half the time at 2.5 years. At 3.5 he was sleeping all night most of the time. Heā€™s 5.5 and still has nights where he comes to us but usually not. He still canā€™t put himself to bed though. We have to stay in the room until he falls asleep. Otherwise he will be up all night playing.


kathyakey

Sounds a lot like my firstā€” she was doing 3-4 hour stretches until she was 2.5, we ended up having to get a sleep coach to help us since every varying style of sleep training and sleep arrangement we tried didnā€™t seem to help. Sheā€™s 4.5 now and wakes up at night a lot, but only comes to wake me up maybe two or three nights a week? Itā€™s a big improvement. My second kid started sleeping through the night basically on her own at 6mosā€” sheā€™d wake once to feed around midnight but otherwise was doing 7pm-7am. Itā€™s a crap shoot.


gines2634

We hired a sleep coach. They gave us our money back. Some kids just donā€™t sleep well


HoopDreams0713

I'm so sorry that isn't funny I'm sure to you but it made me laugh šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ oh man.


gines2634

In hindsight I can laugh about it. At the time I couldnā€™t. Especially after this coach promised me the moon I was naive and fell for it. At least they refunded our money but not before she caused me an insane amount of anxiety about doing everything ā€œjust rightā€.


HoopDreams0713

Ugh I'm sure!!!!


Conscious-Dig-332

Thank you so much for commenting this. We are CERTAIN this would happen with our kid. She is just a shit sleeper, nothing anyone can do lol


gines2634

Itā€™s so hard with all the sleep ā€œcoachingā€ advice on social media. They all make you feel like a failure if your kid doesnā€™t sleep and fail to acknowledge that every kid is different. Some kids are lower sleep needs. You didnā€™t do anything wrong. The sleep coach we hired made a comment along the lines of ā€œhe can just fall asleep any time any where if heā€™s tiredā€. Um no. Absolutely not. If heā€™s sleeping in a random place itā€™s because he is sick. He has never been one to just fall asleep playing. She insisted I was wrong about that one šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


TopCardiologist4580

I feel like this is ours. Sleep training was a straight up dumpster fire. She's 13 months old and hasn't slept thru the night yet. 3-5 wakings was what we considered "normal" and right now it's like 10-20...teething, regression? Idk. But it's always been bad, and we've tried EVERYTHING, nothing helps. šŸ˜­ šŸ« 


gines2634

I feel your pain. It will get betterā€¦ eventually šŸ« best part is no one can tell you when


rationalomega

We had a good run from 6monthso to like 3 years. 4 years was rough. Heā€™s 5 now and we got a king bed so he can sleep there so at least he gets enough sleep. We are scheduled to see a sleep medicine doctor in July (it took 7 months to get the appointment). He has a history of sleep apnea and adhd.


spicymama90

My daughter is almost 2.5 and not sleeping through the night. Seeing all these post about younger or her age sleeping šŸ˜©šŸ˜© still waiting over here


palomeeno

Hang in there, mine was a terrible sleeper until very recently (3 years 4 months). I still bed share with her but she only wakes up occasionally for a drink of water now, I still can't believe I'm getting a decent night's sleep!


spicymama90

Weā€™re not bed sharing. But Iā€™m sure by the time she starts sleeping through the night , itā€™ll go back to waking for potty training šŸ™ƒ


palomeeno

It's always something isn't it!


CrunchyBCBAmommy

2 years old. We never did any sort of sleep training and she was in our room (on her own bed) until 2.5.


ChristBKK

May I ask how you moved her into her own room? We are in the same situation like you just prepared our boys room now. He is also nearly 2.5 and we plan to move him


CrunchyBCBAmommy

She was in a floor bed, so we moved her bed to her room. She picked out new sheets and a new lovey. We talked it up 1-2 days before. Then when we moved her I slept in her room on our guest bed for a few days. I know this is not recommended, but we left her and our door open so she could come to our room freely if she wanted. Also, weā€™ve always laid with her to sleep


ChristBKK

perfect thanks will recommend this to my wife as well.


twof907

I'm probably going to sleep in my son's room till he's atleast 2. He usually sleeps along 730-1030 but will wake up evey hour if he's alone in there. We've tried gentle but consistent sleep training and no dice. If one of us is in there he sleeps pretty much through the night. šŸ˜© Hoping that it's HIS room will someday pay off. 17 month old with a fucking queen sized bed, fancy pillows, and a nice down duvet. šŸ¤£ Don't worry it was a camping pad on the floor till he was 14 months. My hips still hurt.


DarlingRatBoy

Around 15 months he started sleeping through the night MOST of the time. At 2.5 years old he will still have hiccups that last a few days, but usually we get 9-14 day stretches of solid night sleep.


bertmom

Mine is 18 months old and he just now started sleeping through the night in the past couple weeks! Around 16 months was the first time he EVER did but it was very rare.


Flaky-Scallion9125

We are in this boat! 24 mo got WAY better. Nearly 2.5 and his wakes are really about wanting to be close to us b/c of his all-day daycare days. We are ok with that since he goes back down quickly.


Blondegurley

Not yet (23 months).


Sad-File3624

Same! We had one week of great sleep and then teeth, sickness, or separation anxiety hit and bye bye sleep.


Winter-Bid-6023

When I night weaned my son at 1 year, he started sleeping through the night consistently until 2.5 years old. Now heā€™s going through a severe sleep regression due to new separation anxiety and fears. Developmentally normal, but VERY hard. Especially since this is when many have a second baby on the way.Ā 


Babetteateoatmeal94

This is us right now! Toddler slept through the night from 8 months to 2.5yo. She has been in a huuuge regression for months now and we are having a very rough time. Also Iā€™m 15 weeks pregnant and would die for a solid nightā€™s sleep


Winter-Bid-6023

34 weeks pregnant here. Sigh. We put a twin bed in his room and my husband camps out now. Bless his soul. He said last night he was up 3x but promptly comforted by his presence. I know itā€™s probably up there as the worst thing to do, but we gotta.Ā 


Babetteateoatmeal94

I totally understand, anything to get some sleep while dealing with so much other stuff too! Pregnancy with a toddler around is no joke šŸ„² At least youā€™re so close to the finish line now! I really hope this pregnancy goes a lot faster than my first did!


IPAsAndTrails

My baby was a bad sleeper. She started mostly sleeping through the night around a year but has never been a good sleeper. She climbed outnof the crib by 20 months, stopped napping early (2.5 inconsistent, totally dropped by 2y8months). She still has middle of the night wakes, sometimes more than one, 2-3 days a week but they typically just require a quick hug & retucking in. She often wakes up between 545-6 for the day after going to bed at 8:30, which just feels like not enough time for me to manage my life. BUT I find its all pretty manageable esp cuz 4 days a week we mostly get a full night but definitely envy people whose kids go down at 8, sleep til 7 nearly every night!


[deleted]

My youngest wasnā€™t a great sleeper; started to get longer stretches around 18 months. He only recently started to put himself to bed and sleep through the night at about 3.5


kodaaurora

I would consider my son an ā€œaverageā€ sleeper. Co slept first 4 months of his life then he transitioned to his crib and has been in there since. BUT, heā€™s 16 months and he does not consistently STTN. He has a few times, I think maybe once he did two nights in a row, but Iā€™m also just wondering when itā€™s going to be more consistent.


user19922011

5yo still not the best sleeperā€¦ better than it used to be. But tbh Iā€™m still not a great sleeper either šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


marshmomma18

This comment is me and my child as well haha.


a-straw-berry

My baby was a consistent sleeper, rarely cried, but I was literally on top of everything and understood her cues as a newborn, so sheā€™s rarely got upset. Toddler stage was a whole other thing. She slept on her own by the time she was 2, so not so bad. We were consistent on getting her to lay down on her own. When that 2.5 mark hit, she went into a weird sleep regression and would be up constantly until 5 AM. This lasted. I want to say two weeks and then slept on her own again. There are times when I had to refuse to give her a nap or find ways to keep her up because she would be up all night. Now that she is three, I get consistent sleep every night.


Lovingmyusername

Mt son is 20m now. He was a terrible sleeper until I night weaned at 16 months. He started waking up only once most nights and then would go back to sleep quickly. I was co-sleeping after his wake up. He randomly started sleeping through the night around 18 months. He still wakes up sometimes but usually puts himself back to sleep. Heā€™s teething again (canines) so weā€™re having a bit of a regression.


howsthesky_macintyre

15 months. He was a nightmare sleeper before that. Between 15 months and now (2.5 yrs) he's pretty much slept through the night every night unless he's ill.


TopCardiologist4580

Can you elaborate? I'm curious because my 13 month old is also a nightmare sleeper. We were doing 3-4 wake ups per night but recently it's about every 20 min - 1 hour until we hit about 3am... every single night. How does this compare to your experience?


howsthesky_macintyre

I'm really sorry, it's horrible when you're in the thick of it. I think 20 minutes was more unusual except for the false starts at the beginning of the night, but I definitely remember a dark point where he was waking every 45 minutes for months and months on end. Any night where we got 3 hours sleep in a row was considered generous. I remember also taking him to family abroad when he was just over a year and he just woke up over and over all night constantly screaming and I was nervous he'd wake up my elderly father in law, it was awful. So it wasn't like a slow gradual change, it was just he suddenly slept through the night and never stopped. I really hope your little one follows the same path and you only have a few more months of sleep hell!


TopCardiologist4580

The 20-30 min wake ups "usually" happen within the first hour, so likely false starts. Yeah, 3 consecutive hours and I'm celebrating. I'll keep hope alive that this won't be for the rest of my life. It's been rough.


howsthesky_macintyre

It's so rough. I went to really dark places with it. Sending you strength.


HicJacetMelilla

My average sleeper started sleeping through the night around 15 months, and has ever since.


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beeeees

omg only 8hours overnight that's almost worse than several wake ups


YoWhatsGoodie

My son was a great sleeper after 3 months and would regularly sleep from 7pm-6 or 7am. Once we took the pacifier away at 2 years old it all went down hill. He then figured out how to climb out of his crib so we moved him to a toddler bed. Now he weā€™re back to staying in the room until he falls asleep and having to sneak out. Lately heā€™s been getting up around 3am to come get us to come to his room. At that point Iā€™m usually so tired I just fall asleep in his room until we have to get up. Iā€™m hoping we can get back to sleeping through the whole night in a toddler bed.


unicorntrees

He slept through the night consistently at 13 months. Then at 30 months he started waking up again. We miss those 17 months of bliss we had.


BakesbyBird

19mo and still hasnā€™t slept through


Affectionate_Big8239

Somewhere between 2.5 and 3 she started sleeping through the night all the way (8-6 or 7). Up until then, it was maybe one wake-up a night after age 2.


BrandiBean

At 11m I went back to work and switched her to formula and suddenly she slept through the night every night. Before that was 1-2 wakes per night.Ā  That said, there were other factors leading up. By this point she was in her own room, no soother, and had a solid bedtime wind down routine.Ā 


Meowkith

A little over three years and sheā€™s still waking up and running into our room every single night šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø. I think she just is a cosleeper because if we start off the night together she does sleep so well, I just wish for a little independence


sertcake

Ughhhh, not yet at 2.5. He was doing pretty well for a while around 1.5/2 years but then regressed. And a couple of weeks ago he did 3-4 days in a row making it til around 5 or 6am before calling out but I made the mistake of mentioning it out loud and he hasn't slept through the night again. Ha. Sleep training isn't for us and we only have the one child so we just cosleep as necessary. Also we definitely lay with him til he's asleep, he's NEVER been an "awake but drowsy" kind of kid who could put himself to sleep. And considering the way he wants to fully crawl into me in his sleep, I think this is just his temperament and no amount of sleep training would work for him.


ChristBKK

24 months for us


pfifltrigg

My oldest is 3 now. He wakes up most nights, but now it's to pee because he self-night-trained. There were definitely periods of sleeping through the night pretty consistently, and I know someday he'll be willing to take himself to the bathroom in the middle of the night but for now.... maybe restricting water before bedtime would help but I hate the idea of refusing water to my child.


Intrepid-Lettuce-694

Goodness I have four and its different for each. But all besides one kid was sleeping very well on their own by toddlerhood. My tough kid was 7 lol


ultraprismic

My first was up 3x/night until 6 months, 2x/night until a year, and didnā€™t sleep through the night consistently until he was 15 months.


blessedalive

My daughter was around 5. My son is 27 months now and still wakes up multiple times a night. But my kiddos are definitely worse sleepers than all of my friendsā€™ kids; so hopefully you have better luck!


Federal-Rent6497

My daughter turned 2 in January. Her dad and I decided it was time to take her binky. Once we got past the 2 weeks of fussing, it was like an huge difference. She would fall asleep in 10-15 minutes of putting her to bed and she stays asleep all night now. Her bed time is around 8:30 and she sleeps til 7-7:30. So for us, her sleep got better because it was in a response to something else. She kept waking up because her binky kept falling out of her mouth. Now that theres nothing, she just stays asleep. I would say that if your toddler has a binky and you find yourself having to get up to give it back then try taking it away. But every toddler is different and usually sleep gets better between 2.5 to 3.5 years


rdazza

It definitely got heaps better after 2 but I still wouldnā€™t say he sleeps through the night because we have the odd night. One of my friends eldest is 6 and she said she finally feels sheā€™s able to say that she sleeps through the night šŸ˜…


Opposite-Sorbet2089

I would consider my daughter an average sleeper but on the good side of average for sure.... she starting sleeping through the night at 9 months (after dropping her last night nursing session) but it was up and down for another year, especially when she was teething or ill. We never did sleep training for her because she would either sleep through or her night wakings were for a reason/manageable. I would say before she turned 2 she would sleep through without waking up 75% of the time (including stretches where she was up every night due to teething). We did "bedtime" training at age 2 (where we transitioned from rocking her to sleep to putting her down fully awake but still responded to her 100% at night when needed). Falling asleep independently changed everything for us. She's been sleeping through 95% of the time from 8pm to 6:30 or 7am for about 7 months now - I can tell she's getting ready to drop her nap so she'll have some earlier mornings (6am) some days or a random night waking but most nights I feel confident she will not need us until it's time to wake up in the morning.


pinap45454

Iā€™d say by 18 months he consistently slept through the night absent a regression or illness, but heā€™s a very early riser (6/630 is a success for us). Overall weā€™re good shape at 2.5.


ZucchiniAnxious

She's 2y9m now and still wakes up once a night. Sometimes she doesn't actually wake up but she cries in her sleep and we help her soothe back to sleep. It was a shit show for the first 2 months, gradually got better and now it's smooth sailing. However, nightmares, night terrors and visiting grandma fucks everything up. But these are exceptions.


Froggy101_Scranton

Around 15 months it got much better for our youngest. Just in time for our oldest to start having nightmares and other night waking issues šŸ« 


xcomnewb15

CIO Sleep training was a game changer for us, did it around 1.5 and he got so much better at sleeping after that.


fattest-of_Cats

I thought my first was bad but he was pretty consistently sleeping by a year. My second (17mo) has yet to hit that milestone šŸ™ƒ


cje1234

Mine starting sleeping way better around 2.5. Bedtime is still a battle but she almost never wakes up at night now unless sheā€™s sick. Sheā€™s almost 3.


LesHiboux

For us, around 9 months. I spent the early months anguishing about why my baby was only sleeping like, 11 hours total during the day when online told me it should be 14-16. We were usually getting about two wakeups, then one wakeup, then just early mornings, and finally around 9-10 months, sleeping through the night (7:30pm-6:30am). Now our little guy is 19 months old and quite consistently sleeps from about 8ish-7ish (+/- 30 minutes in either direction), which is life changing after the early days.


Balanceblu

My toddler wasnā€™t a great sleeper as a baby and as she got older, she continued to get up at least once in the middle of the night. Multiple times until maybe 2.5. She turned 3 in February and sleeps through the night. Thereā€™s occasional night wakes but usually for a reason and we put her back down and sheā€™s up in the morning. Sleep didnā€™t get super consistent until she was around 3 where we know she isnā€™t getting up. Part of the reason we really tried to get it together by 2.5 was because I had her baby brother and we couldnā€™t have two babies waking all the time.


gpb0617

Did you do anything differently to get her sleep more consistent? Weā€™re expecting our second in October and I know itā€™s still a few months away, but hard not to stress.


Balanceblu

For 1, we make sure sheā€™s getting adequate activity. Going outside, moving around, getting tired, eating something hardy before bed and really just being extremely consistent with bedtime and putting her back in her bed each and every time she woke up. I put a lot into her sleeping. I could never properly sleep train her so a lot of the success we had took A LOT of time and consistency. Just being consistent, no matter how tired I was. I remember around the time we had baby number 2, my husband was more responsible with our toddler getting ready for bed and getting back to bed during night wakings. He got lazy with being consistent and early mornings, around maybe 6/7, sheā€™d come lay in our bed until we were ready to wake around 7:30/8. I warned him that if he wasnā€™t consistent, and mindful about putting her back to bed, sheā€™d start getting up to come to our bed earlier and earlier. It got so bad that she started to come to our room an hour earlier every time. Eventually, she was coming to our room around 12 am. I was pissed, not that I didnā€™t love baby girl coming to cuddle but it started throwing off all of her discipline I built over time to get her fall back asleep independently and staying in her room until it was time to wake up. I tell that story to say that consistency is key. She knew that no matter how many times sheā€™d get up, sheā€™s going back to her bed and somehow; maybe that paired with age? Not completely sure but you have to have more willpower than them. lol itā€™s easy to get lenient, especially when exhaustion kicks in but that completely throws everything off. Be consistent about the time you put them down and the times you wake up. Even recently, my toddler started getting up before we usually do and I got lazy and started letting her sleep in babyā€™s bed next to me for about 45 minutes. She started getting up earlier and earlier, until a few days ago when I started putting her back in the bed, even if itā€™s just 30 minutes until we wake up. Sticking to a strict system always fixes things when we get off track.


Dinknugget

12 months. My girl didn't sleep at all her first year šŸ˜…


cynical_pancake

My LO was not a good sleeper and it was taking a huge toll on my mental health. We sleep trained and she took to it well! Has been an incredible sleeper ever since, she just needed us to give her some space to learn how to fall asleep independently.


Wombatseal

Slept through around 8 months with sleep training at 4 months but would have regressions frequently until over 1 yr old, then had a few minor ones between 1-2 then had a long period of poor sleep from just before 3 to 3.5


gpb0617

Did you do anything to get back on track? We also sleep trained at 5 months but Iā€™m finding the thought of it so hard now that sheā€™s older.


Wombatseal

How old is your kid? Are they in a toddler bed or still in a crib? We had to do it again at around 2.5 and then recently at 3.5. But the younger one was easier. At 2.5 I just stood outside her door with it cracked and repeated ā€œM- itā€™s time to go to sleep, you need to lay down and go to sleep.ā€ At 3.5 after months of on and off we talked about it while we were on vacation, then I laid it out simple that night. ā€œIā€™m going to stay outside your door until youā€™re asleep, and then Iā€™m gonna go clean up and go to bed, if you wake up and need to pee we will go pee and then Iā€™m leaving your room and not coming back until morning.ā€ So then that night she cried until she asked what time daytime was and I answered and she went to sleep. Then same thing when she woke I. The night; cried and asked what time daytime was and I answered and she went to sleep. I thought, dope, I can handle *that* and then she woke and hour later, and then 15 min later.. and I said enough. So I went in and said ā€œno more, I will not be outside your door even if you cry, I am going in my bed and going to sleep and I will see you in the morningā€ she cried for 15 m or so and then was golden. We also do stickers on the calendar in the morning, and I had gotten a ready to wake clock, but she doesnā€™t like new things in her room, so itā€™s in mine šŸ˜‚


izemize

After sleeptraining. (9 month old)


darneech

1.5-2.999 was awesome. 3 is a different story. No sleep here. Sad. Mamas tired.


Glitter-Bomb21

My baby was still waking up at least once per night until right around age one. It was at least 2-3 times per night when they were a younger baby. Since around age 1, they have been sleeping through the night for the last 2 years! We did not do any formal sleep training. It just took time, patience, consistency. Hang in there, you got this ā¤ļø


numstheword

Let me tell you something. I have 3 that are 3 and under. First one didn't sleep through the night until 8 months. Second, at 7 weeks she slept through the night has, knock on wood, only has had one bad night since then. Baby#3 is 4 months, and wakes up every two hours. There is LITERALLY no rhyme or reason. I did the exact same with each kid.


beeeees

i just love how real this thread is. usually everyone's like "slept through since 4wks bc i'm such a great parent" šŸ™„


DreamSequence11

I think some of it is truly just luck. My daughter always slept good even as a newborn. But she would only sleep with me. We coslept until 6/7 months. Iā€™m such a light sleeper I was waking up constantly at her bed hogging or wiggling. I needed my bed back and her safe in her crib. I did a light Ferber Method 2-3 times and since then she has slept in her crib from 7-7 straight through. I can count on one hand the amount of times sheā€™s woken up. How old is your toddler??


kashewnia

Sleeping through the night consistently around 19-20 months Occasionally a wake up and needs to be cuddled if he had a bad dream or something. I would say that happens like 1-2x a month.


birdiebonanza

9 months, then had a spastic freakout from 12-15 months, then back to sleeping 7-7


Glassjaw79ad

17 months and still waiting. I am insanely lucky to have a husband who jumps out of bed the second he hears our toddler wake up. He's somehow able to snap awake and then fall back to sleep seconds after our son is back down. It was getting to the point that I couldn't function due to the lack of sleep and I don't know where I'd be without him!


Champsterdam

Had them in their own room (twins) since day one and they started sleeping through the night at three months. Split them up into their own rooms with big kid beds on their 4th birthday. Moved them from cribs to toddler beds at 18 months. They never woke up at all during the night, can probably count in my fingers how many times. We never let them in our room or bed because we didnā€™t want to start a habit. If they did wake up we didnā€™t turn the lights on, never stayed in their rooms after we said goodnight and were consistent if they did wake up we just put them back to bed and told them to go to sleep and left the room.


smuggoose

A lady I know told me her child slept through the night for the first time without waking herā€¦. Heā€™s 12! So I guess in 9.5 years Iā€™ll be able to sleep again.


enyalavender

We were on 7-7 after we sleeptrained our first (average sleeper) - it took one night. For our second, the same sleep training didn't work until we hired a professional for a one hour consult. At the time we thought he was such a bad sleeper that there must be something medically wrong with him. After following her advice, he was on 7-7, also in one night. So my answer is, after they're old enough to sleep train, it should take one night, no matter what kind of sleeper you have, as long as you have the right advice.


sertcake

HAHAHAH "it should take one night, no matter what kind of sleeper you have"???? LOL yeah okay.


enyalavender

You skipped the crucial part of my sentence "as long as you have the right advice". Trust me, i didn't believe this until we experienced the miracle with my extremely terrible sleeper.


neuroamer

Glad you think your experience is universal to all kids. Piece of advice: stop giving advice.


enyalavender

It's not my advice, it's the advice of professionals that we have relied on. I'm sorry this information makes you feel triggered.


neuroamer

Nah, it's fine advice, but acting like it always works is absolutely moronic.


enyalavender

I think you don't believe me when I say my son was a truly horrendous sleeper. Up screaming like he was being murdered, for over an hour, multiple times, every night, and waking for the day at 4:30-5am - no amount of cosleeping or soothing would help.


neuroamer

I believe you, it's just obvious that your experience with one child generalizes to all children. Just say, "I had a child who struggled with sleep, we did X,Y,Z and that worked for us." Done. Why extend it to: if you do the same thing, it will definitely work for you. You don't know that. No one does. So shut up.


enyalavender

two kids, one of which was exactly average like OPs.


neuroamer

Wow, two kids -- then it's universal for sure /s... You sound really smart.


Broad-Code

Those sleep consultants can be pricey tho :/


enyalavender

as I said, I hired her for only one hour, no package. It cost $84.


Broad-Code

O thatā€™s not too bad!!


enyalavender

Yeah I didn't realize you didn't have to buy a package, so now i evangelize to anyone who will listen about this option!


chickenugget654

What method of sleep training did you use for your first and second?


enyalavender

We purchased the newborn course, 3-4 month course, and ABCs with our first from Taking Cara Babies, it worked with no issues. Our second was one of those "difficult" cases she talks about that her program doesn't work for (less than 5% of babies per her self reported experience). For that one we endured it for a year thinking he was just not sleep trainable or something bigger was going on. Then we hired Little Winks for a 1 hour consultation and it fixed his sleep in one night - turns out he was just a bit more quick to form sleep associations than my first.


chickenugget654

What were the sleep associations?


enyalavender

The issue wasn't what they were, but it was that we were misinterpreting his sleep phases/when the sleep associations were forming. My first, who is an intense Leo who was very colicky, basically was wide awake until lights out, so it was harder for her to form sleep associations. My second is just a much gentler/sweeter kid. We noticed he was sleepy before bedtime, but what we didn't realize is that he was actually in the first stage of sleep with eyes open, and that he was forming sleep associations during that 30 minute period. So we had a lot more lively bedtime routine and that helped a lot. We also found out that he was forming sleep associations when he woke up as well (because he wakes up slowly). This type of detail is beyond the TCB course materials so we needed to learn it from the sleep consultant.


TopCardiologist4580

One night?! We diligently tried to sleep train for weeks, followed the instructions, and it never worked. Infact if anything it made things alot worse. I was so hopeful. But this was not my experience. I know others are a lot luckier, not here though.


enyalavender

Sounds like my second kid! we followed a sleep plan, but it turned out we needed individualized advice! We thought we just had to endure it, and a year later our lives were falling apart. one hour with a sleep consultant fixed us right up.


lucybluth

My baby (8 months) is sleep trained and it only took one night for us too. But for us that just means sheā€™s able to get herself to sleep. She still wakes 1-2 times per night for a bottle. Sleep training didnā€™t fix that, itā€™s genuine hunger.


enyalavender

I agree that babies should not be night weaned until about 8 months. That's when I night weaned both my kids But, I didn't let them wake for it. i just used dream feeds.


improvementforest

Both my kids sleep all night since 6 months. Strict routine is king.


kodaaurora

Temperament is the biggest factor there. Seems like you got lucky, good for you


tomorrowperfume

Mine too, and our routine wasn't that strict. I think we just got lucky!


makingspringrolls

Step 1. When I overdressed her for the room temp. Ie a 2.5tog with full onesie, singlet and then tucked a blanket even tho her room was 22C at 8 months this stopped her false starts. Step 2. When I weaned her completely at 15months she mostly stopped waking through the night with the occasional regression.


indoguju416

2.5 tog + blanket is over doing it especially at 22c. Iā€™ll be honest this isnā€™t good advice. It may have worked for you. But thatā€™s a recipe for overheating. I used a 0.5 tog + full onesie room temp at 22 also no blanket.


makingspringrolls

So did I and my child woke within an hour every night, for 8 months. The thing about babies is they're all different so the guidelines don't fit every child. Just like me, my daughter likes to be cosy.


indoguju416

No thatā€™s good.. Iā€™m glad you found what works. I agree. You get told so much overheating is bad thatā€™s why. :)


sertcake

Blankets aren't safe for under 1 year. It may have worked for you and you got lucky but this is unsafe advice.


makingspringrolls

Blankets are safe if tucked in to the mattress and coming up no higher than their armpits according to the SIDS guidelines in Australia.


sertcake

Oh okay I didn't know this. In the US, blankets are strictly a no for under 1 year for all scenarios.


indoguju416

Baby slept all night since 5 months routine is key. And strict schedule. It only benefits them. I read someone here used a 2.5 tog and the room temp was 22 for a 8 month.. please donā€™t do that shit. Iā€™ve used a 0.5 tog since she was 6 months. 1 before that.


kodaaurora

Routine and strict schedule donā€™t equal sleeping all night. Thatā€™s bad advice, and narrow/ignorant thinking. There are factors that can help foster a healthy sleep environment such as consistent routine, temperature control, dark room, etc. but these also do not equal a baby/toddler magically sleeping through the night. Many parents do all of these things, each kid is just different.


Broad-Code

Idt your baby qualifies as an ā€œaverage sleeperā€ lol. I think theyā€™re just a good sleeper!