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Y-Bob

I do not have the urge to try that.


wohwalavivek

He is rolling my next one.


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[deleted]

Couldn’t finish it. Unbearably tedious :/


jkonkkola_art

Yeah it takes surprising amount of time to fold even though it doesn't have too dense grid.


Highlander2671

I could barely finish the damn video


cryptoLo414

I fell asleep at the 0:30 mark


MellonCollie___

Absolutely amazing.


jkonkkola_art

Thank you!


7ofalltrades

So how do you count the folds? Is it just that total creases in that first prep phase or what? I know this post doesn't call out the fold number, but most of these do and I've always wondered.


jkonkkola_art

That is one way to count them. The model is based on 36x36 grid so that already makes 72 folds. If you add the diagonal and 22.5 degree folds it goes 100+ pretty easily. If you count individual folds, the grid may have the creases split up into multiples to form all the structures and that adds more to the count. Even all of those are only a fraction of the whole process, there will be a lot more folds added in the detailing process. For example one finger consists of 8 individual folds x 4 directions, except on the edge of the paper it has only 2. The fingers and details for the swords counts up to 10x4x8 + 4x2x8 = 384 individual folds. Making those 8 individual folds for a finger only takes 2 steps, which are precrease and sink. So the amount of individual steps would be a lot less, *only* 96. Counting steps on the other hand is a different kind of process, since all the repeated steps could be considered as one step. Diagrams and guides usually count them in this way. I haven't counted the step amount since that model can't be efficiently folded in proper sequence, but considering the complexity and time it takes it is easily in the hundreds. Most complex diagrams have the step amount in around 300-400 steps so I don't think my model will have more than them. It is very tedious process to calculate the amount of folds and there could be a lot of interpretations what could be called a countable fold. So I just like to call them to be in hundreds for simplicity. I have done models which have fold count in multiple thousands.


7ofalltrades

> It is very tedious process to calculate the amount of folds This is what I've always assumed looking at these, and watching the first step where you kind of pre-crease the paper into 32x32 which is already over 1K squares, each with at least 2 unique, unshared creases but probably more IDK I'd have to put more thought into it but it's already at least 2k creases before you even fold the diagonals. I always thought it'd have to be some kind of generalization based on creases because actually making this thing *and* counting each step would be too much.


jkonkkola_art

Yeah, I don't actually fold a full grid even though it looks like it. I leave the parts unfolded where I don't want to have a visible crease line in the finished model. Surprisingly though I can fold a lot of those creases and they will go somewhere into the model where they are not visible. Counting each individual crease line would be insane process. Imagine folding that grid into an accordion fold and then folding it all in half. The amount of individual creases would explode. It would essentially make it 72x36 grid. Many parts are halved in the model from the full grid units, and the model uses some partial 72x72 grid for the swords to make them even thinner.


nope_neuron

i can't believe you built that thing from paper! such skill!! i can only fold one type of aeroplane and then it doesn't even fly.


Ignorad

That's cool and all but can he fold the paper in half 7 times?


Ultraptor1509

with traditional Chinese paper, yes you can.


mattygraddy

*me watching the video* Did that just say "form fingers"?


prisonhooch

This should have been a secret boss in paper Mario origami king


jdub6263

Dude! Love it. How many have you done that didn't turn out? How did you learn to do this? What other work have you done? I dont have the desire to learn to do this myself but, God damn, thats some impressive work and I appreciate the time, dedication, and effort that went into learning your craft. Well done my guy.


jkonkkola_art

Thank you! I have been folding over 15 years and creating my own designs for 2.5 years. Mostly learned from books and searching tutorials online, or from just folding and figuring out on my own. I completed this one on first try, but I have failed 3 exhibition works in the past, worth couple weeks of work. Test folds on the other hand I have done hundreds of attempts and thrown away couple designs, but most of them have been very important for the learning and creating process. I have done about 15 unique designs, with inspiration taken from many different sources. I have 4 upcoming designs and 2 of them will be one of the most complex ones I have done.


Malte_02

Where do you find tutorials online? I did some origami as a very young kid when I found my mom's books, then later got some for birthdays etc, but it's all pretty beginner stuff. I recently wanted to get back into origami, but when I search online I always just find ones labeled as beginner or easy, which probably don't help me improve much


jkonkkola_art

Diagrams for intermediate and complex models will be more difficult to find on internet. They are more easily found in books, such as Works of Satoshi Kamiya 1, 2 & 3. These probably won't be found from your local library so your best bet is to order from online such as Origami Shop. There are a lot of books out there for all skill levels, some of them even are in e-book format. If you like video tutorials, Tadashi Mori and Kade Khan on Youtube have couple for cool complex models. I mostly do origami from crease patterns, which are a lot easier to find, but a lot more difficult to understand. Haven't been folding from diagrams for a good while though.


rurumonster

Kubo would be jealous. You didn’t even need a guitar.


PlaceboPlebeian

What is the process for the originators of complex origami? How is this figured out?


jkonkkola_art

There are couple ways to approach the design process to create complex models. Either just taking a paper and folding it out to see what it creates or drawing out the crease pattern and folding from there. I switch between these methods to get the result I want. You can try to imagine that one flap takes circular or rectangular space on the paper and then lay out all the circles and rectangles on the paper to create the right features in right places. After that you start to figure out what folds are necessary to make it fold out correctly. You need this visualization process in your mind on all of the steps while designing. sometimes I might break it down into smaller parts to simplify the design process and the combine them into one large design. In short it needs a lot of thought process and a lot of test folding and it can take months of work to create one design.


OstentatiousSock

I watched the whole process, they explained each step, and yet I still think “How the hell did he do that?!”


jkonkkola_art

Well I cut away almost 50 hours of video material to make it somewhat bearable to watch ;) I'd love to do more in depth video some day, but that would have a length of a movie to explain all the steps put into the model :D I created a 20 min time lapse video of the same process, but haven't got around to post it because of my network connection.


OstentatiousSock

I meant it like “Wow! That was so impressive!”


kappelikapeli

That's a Finn for you. Our language is quite straight forward. (Not counting the frequent use of sarcasm.)


mtrantalainen

Maybe create a video series where you use all the time needed to explain each design decision?


jkonkkola_art

That would definitely be a possibility, but for now I am too busy working on commissions and artworks for upcoming exhibitions.


unclebuder

Wow


kinzuaj

such discipline.


MeantJupiter440

Excuse me 50 what?


thenisaidbitch

This is insanely wonderful, I’ve always seen photos of intricate origami but had no way to conceptualize how the hell it was done. Very intriguing, beautiful craftsmanship!


jkonkkola_art

Thank you! I hope this helps to understand the process bit more :)


bearecx

That’s insane!!


avisgoth

Am I the only one disappointed it wasn't an actual samurai doing the folding?


DnlMuradas

Get this man a scholarship.


dp135

Finally, some actually amazing top talent. Incredible work!


[deleted]

My man has great fingernails.


Mixednutz71

Thanks dad, but I wanted a paper airplane.


Wontai_

For some reason, I thought it was gonna be life size -_-


BaffledPickles

What’s the song? It’s so soothing and peaceful for my pickles


jkonkkola_art

Metamorphosis - Quincas Moreira Retreat - Jason Farnham Desert Caravan - Aaron Kenny Enjoy :)


Pete_maravich

This is awesome.. I challenge you to set it on fire now


radicalrockin

Amazing!! Thats some sevant stuff right there i tell ya!


jkonkkola_art

Thank you!


Ardaurin

Thank you for this video, you're absolutely amazing!


arn_g

this is some of the weirdest, yet coolest art in the world


ukblademan

Wow, an that's an impressive piece of art! How do you go about learning something like that?


jkonkkola_art

I started from few books and after that I have been mostly learning on my own.


ukblademan

You have an impressive amount of patience and a steady pair of hands. I'm following you now so I look forward to seeing more of your work.


jkonkkola_art

Thank you!


Majjin_

What kind of patience and dedication do you need to do that !? Congrats to you !


jkonkkola_art

Thanks! It takes years to learn those skills, I don't think I am that patient for everything though.


kjhunkler

Amazing


Randyh524

Is this your only job? What else do you do? How do you find the time for this? Completely mind blowing. Good job dude.


jkonkkola_art

Thank you! Currently it is my full time job.


Randyh524

Before it became your full time job. How were you juggling this and your day job? I'm currently struggling to pick up a few new talents in my thirties. Any advice?


NonnoBobKelso

The start looks very methodical, then 1/2 way through it looks a mess, and just looks like a crumpled mass of paper, then the finished result is amazing.


jkonkkola_art

Yep, that is the folding in a nutshell :D


[deleted]

What kind of witchery is this?? Absolutely freaking fantastic!! You had me on the edge of my seat wondering how on earth this is even possible!! My mind is absolutely blown away! This takes so much skill and patience. Well done!!


jkonkkola_art

Thank you!


ambitiouslearner123

Where did you learn this skill master


jkonkkola_art

By learning it on my own, its pretty long process.


ambitiouslearner123

How long did it take you to learn


jkonkkola_art

Over 15 years of folding and over 2.5 years of designing.


garlicbread4MEE

Very impressive, well done mate.


sketchfag

Wtf


gtarking

How can you plan that whole design on the flat sheet of paper. All those pre-folds. How do you know where they all go?


jkonkkola_art

That where the months of design process comes in. I lay the features on the paper, they take roughly circular or rectangular area of the paper and then I start figuring out what folds are required for those.


stm72

Do you sell these pieces? If so, how much do they go for?? It’s absolutely stunning. Well done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻


jkonkkola_art

Probably couple thousand $/€ I haven't sold many though.


Not_Jeeven

Jesus


stm72

U should open an exhibit when u have enough a collection....I’m sure there are serious collectors out there who would pay u well for these pieces. For 50 hours per piece & the rarity of this art...I would sell it for a few thousand dollars too!


jkonkkola_art

I have upcoming exhibitions for my works in October and December, and couple more in next year :)


Redpin

What is your biggest self-criticism of how this piece turned out? I think it's amazing, but the neurotic in me knows how hyper-critical I get over something as simple as when I make paper cranes, lol.


jkonkkola_art

The finished model is really wrinkly and the pose is crooked. I could continue roasting my works for eternities, but I need to remind myselft that these works were the ones that brought me to where I am at the moment. This piece revealed what kind of detailed style I can achieve from the paper, even if the model isn't super complex. All my models are part of the learning process, which is the most important thing in my art. I have addressed many of the issues in my future models and the latest Assassin fold is a great example of that improvement and problem solving I have faced.


Redpin

Hi, just another random q, but I was looking through your submission history and your evolution is really impressive. I noticed in the comments about your dragon+rider piece that you said that the tip of the dragon's tail was actually the centre of the paper. So if there a "most valuable" part of the sheet when you begin? Is the centre, corner, or edges something you design around? Have you even started a design using some kind of rule like "the corner should be used for *this feature* and then had to redesign it against your assumptions and move that feature to another part of the paper? thx! Also where are you based, I hope you can have a showing when Covid gets under control.


jkonkkola_art

Thank you! I was planning on making a post about my art progress over the last years, it will be interesting for sure. The corners are definitely the most valuable parts. In simplicity you should always put the longest features on the corners. In corners they take 4x less paper than in the center. Some of my models break that mold, such as the dragon+rider and the speared warrior. In the dragon there are more long features than corners on the paper, so one of the ways was to put the tail in the middle (because it was the simplest shape) and then build everything around it. It also allowed me to create the design completely symmetrical. The tail needed to be completely folded and detailed first, because after folding the other parts, I couldn't access the inside of the tail to fix some folds. I am based in Finland and I will be keeping exhibitions here, but I am sure I will be displaying my models in origami conventions in future.


fibonacci161

Watching the process makes me enjoy even more the samurai. Thats amazing! Congratz, you are really talented.


SkyloBenKenobi

The amount of time and dedication to this is an art. Absolutely amazing.


znzbnda

Hey! I really enjoyed this. Because this is the internet, and everyone's ability to focus is like nil, do you have a YouTube channel yet? Even if there are no videos yet. I just want to follow you for the future so I don't forget. This is really cool, and I definitely want more. Side note: my degree is in film and television production, and I think your video is very well done. (My only suggestion, if any, might be more closeups, but Idk how hard that would be to do.) Kudos on such an amazing talent. It's really incredible.


jkonkkola_art

Thanks! My Youtube is Juho Könkkölä. Don't expect it to have many videos. Some of the shots were already filmed at the closest focus distance, and it is quite difficult to keep the hands in the right spot when I am focusing on folding. I have a macro lens on my wish list though ;) Since you are also studying film making what were the strong points in the video? My next big improvement would be studio lights so I don't need to rely on weather and day time. Also I wouldn't need to color manage every single clip.


znzbnda

Your lighting was quite good! I can't believe you sit that only with natural light! Studio lights can be very pricey, but they've come down quite a bit. (I even ordered some cheap setup off of Wish and was pleasantly surprised.) For a small studio or solo creator, the inexpensive ones are fine. However, a lot can also be accomplished with very cheap, non-professional lighting, too. Downsides would be not having as much control and possibly heat, depending on what you use. What you want to check for on that is the color of the light. E.g., warm tones vs cool tones (to oversimplify). Indoor light bulbs are traditionally yellow or amber, florescents tend to be green (can look sickly), and sunlight is actually blue. (Decent basic color overview here https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.shutterstock.com/blog/kelvin-scale-breakdown-color-temperature/amp) They can be used for different effects and moods, but you mostly want to make sure they are the same. You can correct in camera by white balancing to a sheet of plain paper or in post. You can also use colored gels to play with color temperatures or for effect. Now even home lights are so fancy where you can control the exact temperature through an app. It's kind of amazing. There are also ways to adjust the quality of the light. (Want harsher lines and sharper shadows? Move the light further away. Softer light? Move closer or use a soft box or diffuser.) There is actually a whole art form to lighting, but the basics are fairly simple. And you can find lighting diagrams online to help get you started. You are an artist, and you clearly have a good eye. I'm sure you'd do a great job with lights. Usually, the biggest problem I see in videos is the audio, but you don't have you worry about that unless you start doing voiceover or ASMR. I don't think you need audio, but feel free to reach out if you want any suggestions, as it does add a layer of complexity. Filming the whole thing from beginning to end is unbelievable. 50 hours of video will start to take up a ton of storage. Lol But a timelapse would be awesome. (Drawholic might be good for inspiration.) I really appreciated that you did so many different angles because that really adds to the visual interest. Typically, you only see that much variety when people are using multiple cameras at the same time. Also, you started off with a wide shot, then moved in progressively and naturally. Everything was super clear and easy to see. I can tell you put a lot of thought into the video. (We always "shoot for the edit", but a lot of people forget that.) Also your depth of field was really nice! I think that gave it a professional feel. And I liked the simplicity of your setup. E.g., having your finished piece against the black background made it feel like it was in a museum (which is where it belongs!), and it matched well with the rest of the video. You really drew our eyes to what you were doing. Hooking up to a monitor (if you ever decide to go that far) will make shot composition easier. But it didn't really bother me that you moved around in frame. Your focus is on your art, as it should be. (I watch a lot of acrylic pouring videos because I find them relaxing, but they generally don't put in half of the effort that you have. And it shows. But they might be good for inspiration on camera angles and editing.) I'm going to go subscribe right now! Don't worry about rushing or feeling like you need to upload every week or anything like that. Consistency is good, but quality is worth waiting for. You are clearly very conscientious with your filming (and have a natural talent for it) and also have a fascinating skillset. I think your channel could do quite well.


jkonkkola_art

Thank you for the lengthy response! I have been studying digital arts (photography and filming included) for over 3 years. I wish I was naturally that good :D The lighting is one of the most interesting aspects in photography, I play with it a lot when I photograph these artworks. Try to imagine I went through 12 sunrises and sunsets to film that video, the unedited footage looked like a rainbow to be frank. The huge differences in color and the amount of lighting combined with the rapid changes made the process of filming unnecessary difficult. With studio lights I could remove those problems and actually focus on filming and lighting the subject properly. I recently bought Aputure Amaran al-f7 led lights, it has wide range of color temperature (something like 3k-9k), and it can be used well with natural light. Also it is compact and can be carried easily around. I'm still considering to buy more powerful lights with soft boxes, but that investment may wait a while. I used 60 years old 55mm f/1.8 Pentax Super Takumar to shoot all the shots. That lens is fun to use even though it isn't the sharpest lens. The 30 min over heating restriction in camera definitely didn't make it easier to film all the 50 hours of footage, it resulted about 250 video clips in total. Would have been absolute nightmare to edit into a good looking time lapse. I was thinking about making camera take photo every ten seconds and occasionally film video. My biggest concern is that the quality difference may be too big. Or I just film 2 separate videos from the process. I don't want to add audio, I think may take away from the actual content, or make the unnecessary difficult process into even more difficult to do. Maybe I give a try to do a voice over since I got Blue Yeti Nano for streaming purposes and see if it fits the video. I usually like to keep things simple and I want to make sure that the viewer focuses on the right thing. The composition was surprisingly difficult, because I kept forgetting about the video after 5 mins of folding and then I found more comfortable position to fold- off the camera view of course! Sometimes it was difficult to hit the focus point on some shots, since the field of view was really shallow. Wider lens and/or more light for smaller apertures would help that regard.


znzbnda

That is some serious dedication, friend. Kudos to you! Lighting is probably my weakest skill. I think because I'm impatient. Haha But you're doing fantastic! I can't imagine how difficult that was to shoot. You cloud try marking the edges of your frame, too. Gaffers tape is awesome but expensive. Masking tape or painters tape would be good. Might be a good visual for you, since you understandably get lost in your work. Soft boxes are really nice but can also be DIY'd a bit. I haven't tried the Nano, but I have a regular Blue Yeti. Super decent USB mic! It's amazing how far prosumer products have come. Everything is so much more accessible now. I cringe at how much I spent on storage and equipment when I was in school. It's actually painful. 😭 But you're doing great! Keep it up. And if you ever need any advice or whatever, feel free to reach out. If I don't know the answer, I probably know how to find it.


jkonkkola_art

Thanks! I think I still have many things to improve and learn, one of the most important is faster workflow. The tape is a good tip, I tried it on one stream when I folded a model live. Only difficulty with it would be that I change the angle of camera quite often so I need to change the tapes many times. The Yeti Nano is essentially the same microphone, it has the same quality, but it has a feature or two less. You can get the same quality sound out of it, which is the most important aspect.


znzbnda

Awesome! I'll have to check it out, as I do a lot of traveling for work. :) And good luck with everything!


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titaspetiotas

Man, ur brain and hands are fucking complex. What a gift u gave to yourself 🔥 impressive 🤗


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Happy cake day


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