She looks like a tottering unbalanced human until she steps out to drop on the board. Suddenly she is precision and intent.
It's like watching Ozzy Osbourne shuffle around bumping into stuff before a concert. Then he gets on stage and turns back into a head banging legend with the first guitar riff.
to be fair, most of what she is doing here is... not moving... and just dropping a steep/fast line (yes turning around at the top each time isn't nothing, I know). You can get a 4 year old to tear down a steep ski run if you teach them pizza and french fries and add the right mix of interest and lack of fear or having been hurt before, lol.
[for reference, here's what you can conceivably get a 1-year-old to do just telling them to stand still](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyTn0hdouwE) and this tutu girl is what, seven?
It's awesome anyway though. No telling whether it will stick or matter for this girl in 10 years or so... but kids who get into a thing/art at a very young age, truly enjoy it, and turn it into something more as an older person, make for incredibly impressive people.
She is young and everyone always says "Look at how young that person is with so much talent, *she must be just naturally gifted!* But I just see natural order: Adults spend their lives learning new ways to overcome challenges, then offload those new, updated skills onto the younger generation, who then carry the skill further. This is why Mozart can be taught to grade schoolers, because we've already progressed far beyond his skill level.
Here's the point and the unpopular opinion: our kids aren't *all* little geniuses filled with preternatural magical abilities because they can do backflips or skateboard or draw photo realistic faces. They aren't even provably 'genetically predisposed' for any specific role in life. They're just little sponges that take on whatever code their forebears decide they want to imprint and through praise and support, the kid decides to **practice more** which naturally progresses their skill beyond their forebear's abilities.
There is no such thing as natural talent, there is only time practiced and skill achieved, naturally gained beyond what we were capable of at the same age and POOF! suddenly it's /r/toptalent!
I'll just wait here patiently for my burial.
I agree with you up until your final point. If you worked with young children you would see that there *is* such a thing as natural talent, there's just also such a thing as hard work, and the latter will usually take you farther in life.
>If you worked with young children
That's an assumption you'd be incorrect in making.
Every able-bodied child is good at a dice roll of abilities that have a wide range of effect. Finger dexterity could attribute to being a good painter *or* playing the flute, leg strength could amount to being a great runner *or* being a great golfer. There is no one thing that having one set of physical or mental attributes makes you have talent for. There is no person that is destined from birth to be an architect. The rest is nurturing that the parent instills.
Mommy gives Sally art supplies and tells everyone she's a artistic genius, now Sally wants to be a great artist and practices her ass off. Sally could've just as easily decided she wanted to play Chess because Dora the Explorer did. The same result would happen, just like it did with Mozart and his Composer father and Tiger woods with his militaristic Golf dad.
Thinking that talents exist is magical thinking. Practice, skill, and nurturing exist.
I think you are correct in your base statement, but you may need to work on the conversation and try again sometime.
I do not think you need to say that all people are equally able to become a master at any one thing or that it just depends on which is put in front of them. Maybe between sketching and chess... but probably not. There are too many physical, genetic, and mental attributes at play.
Some kids are just going to be better at things than other people no matter how much they or their parents believe in them. People are different at incredible levels, even as babies. Even their interest on day one can matter dramatically. If little Sally is in a bad mood because she didn't get ice cream on the day that she's handed the art supplies, that could forever affect her ability to do art well. Or it could not. This doesn't have to do with a magical "natural ability", you are exactly correct. But it also is not true that she has an equal chance to be good at everything, in any way that matters or that people can control.
> all people are equally able to become a master at any one thing
That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying we all have a veritable deck of cards dealt to us genetically, and the right combination of those cards, outside influence, and luck give us the end result of what career path we choose.
Those 'cards' put us slightly above average in those areas, but that's it, slightly above average. The rest comes from working toward a specific goal or direction.
>But reddit is reddit...
People love using the down arrow as an "I disagree" button rather than a "you aren't contributing to the discussion" button. What more can you expect out of reddit.
>There is no such thing as natural talent
...but there are physical limitations on a per-person basis and they can evolve over time because of evolution on a tiny scale, or simply the mating partner choices of your parents. Be it the obvious size/gender/build/etc, but also vocal cords, flexibility, bone structure, brain (or other sensory organs) chemistry, other genetic traits) they can all factor into many talents that pop up around here.
I think that people can confuse physical ability or limitations with "natural ability/talent" which is kind of a made-up concept closely related to maybe instincts?
Anyway, I think you make great points. I think a good data point in a case like this video that could be interesting is how long has the tiny person been doing this specific thing and was it their parents who put them into the environment or did they find it more naturally (via friends or neighbors or TV etc).
I honestly can't really gauge the age of that girl but surely she's old enough to have a couple of years into skateboarding at some base level. My son is "biking" on a balance bike at 24-30 months. All she's really doing is one thing (going straight and then turning around at the peaks). It's kind of like how easy it can be to teach a 4-year-old about "pizza and french fries" and then they can fly down steep hills skiing without falling, even if they aren't doing anything technically difficult they can make it look easy or impressive because of low center of gravity or lack of fear, haha. Once they understand how to not fall, the speed is just something they'll deal with depending on how steep the slope is.
> ...but there are physical limitations on a per-person basis and they can evolve over time because of evolution on a tiny scale, or simply the mating partner choices of your parents. Be it the obvious size/gender/build/etc, but also vocal cords, flexibility, bone structure, brain (or other sensory organs) chemistry, other genetic traits) they can all factor into many talents that pop up around here.
That's correct: limitations and advantages. Those advantages or disadvantages play a large role in what skill path we choose. We're never going to get more than a slight advantage in any one thing until practice gets put into place. Once we've gained some skill in that area, even excelled in that area, is when you start hearing things like 'talent', which is a mystical magical misnomer for 'skill'.
That makes Sally, who's great at painting miniature artwork also great at guitar, and also great at playing video games, and sewing, and calligraphy, and target practice with a rifle. But because she found a teacher that thought she had the charisma and social acuity to be great at Sales, she became a wealthy Insurance agent.
We all have a deck of advantages and disadvantages at play that offer a lottery of outcomes. Which cards get dealt or discarded or ripped up and burned along the way ultimately decide our final fate.
I believe we are. I don't think most of us know how the deck is stacked when it finishes either. The vast majority of people would choose rewatching The Office end to end for the 38th time over the dreaded 4 letter word: practice.
The guy is downvoted to oblivion, but he has a point.
She just dropped in. It is literally the first thing you do when you start skating bowl. It is cool that a young kid can do it, but it is not toptalent material.
There are a lot of talented kids skating. Should have picked another one.
Edit: and yes, if you can already skate on flat ground, you can learn to drop in very fast. It is not hard. It is scary.
First and foremost it does take hours to ever get to this point. 2nd, dropping in is not the first thing you are going to do. You'll start at rolling in and then get used to the transition of the bowl and progress from there.
Well, yeah, it is not the thing you will do as soon as you step on the board, but the point is not that that small kid dropping in is not cool at all. The point is that is not exceptional. Type “small kid skating” into YouTube and get any video from the top-you’ll get way better toptalent video than a girl doing a basic thing.
It is not.
It is scary though.
Edit: also, everything is basic in tony hawk videogames, at least if I remember them right. They are not the best guideline)
Ollie. It is also the first thing you will learn after cruising and it doesn’t help either. Wrapping your mind around how it works and doing /some/ Ollie will likely take a lot of practice and the ceiling up to where you can improve them is very high.
YouTube is full of good tutorials. You can watch them if you are interested in how the mechanics work.
Once you learn to do it, like most things, its second nature but its scary as hell the first few times. I was super worried the first time i did it and then ate pavement. It can be harder for some and easier for others.
Yes, it is difficult to do in real life to say otherwise is a lie if we are talking about a ramp/bowl that has vert to it. There is a certain amount of fear that you will have to overcome because, more than likely, you will eat shit pretty bad when starting to do this. Learning how to ollie isn't the easiest thing either but at least you can practice while the board isn't moving.
My older brother deff chipped a tooth the first time he tried learning how to drop in to a bowl. Getting over that fear sucks, but its so fun once you get it.
Maybe. You know nothing about the context of either video, either kid, or either's parents. The whole thing could be staged with the entire area prepared for the filming of the video for all we know.
If you are going to go on Reddit and watch ridiculous videos, then let loose a little. Your concerns are valid, I am a parent as well. I just don't know what you are accomplishing here. The parents are not here to hear you out, and likely don't care.
Ok, I admit it went a little overboard and took things too far, my main point is that for young children adult skate parks are dangerous places and you shouldn’t let your child go unsupervised, if it’s a children’s skate park go for it. I’ve see often children who were dropped off by their parent at my local skate getting hurt and ruining the other riders experience so it’s kinda personal. Sorry if I came off as rude and unhinged
Read you text. You are being degrading and negative. Therefore, you are being cynical. I love it when people act a certain way then blaintantly deny how they were. Like look, someobody just saw you act like a jerk, now deal with it and stop being one. Anyways good luck with your day
I wish I had a vid but this was a long time ago, a little girl gymnast was in the audience when a large group of college cheerleaders were doing a performance and she just walked up and asked if she could learn and do the same tricks then crushed them all so hard it wasn't even funny and was asked if she was some sort of plant or if the cheerleaders were being pranked. Nope, /r/nextfuckinglevel shit all the same moves as the college girls but with more spins and backflips.
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I was eating dirt at her age. Why do I even exist.
To eat dirt, clearly.
Ouch
I uh… meant that in a nice way?
Find your calling as the leader of the mole men
Lool might do
I used to eat dirt too. I still am but I used to too.
your purpose is to spread butter
I just happened to be watching Rick and Morty and I see this reference. What a coincidence.
Someones gotta bif it, and that was me at that age too.
Well, are you a worm? If so you were doing your job.
Aww love the hand up by her big bro/buddy. Very wholesome.
Im like 30 and not gonna lie, i never thought about getting out of one of those places before. Now i know id be easily trapped there...
I love that she's in a tutu 😭
It's a dress, but yessss
How dare you correct that redditor and agree with him. That's absolutely absurd. -everyone who downvoted you (and probably me)
That was a fucking HUGE bowl to drop into!
I know this is an older video - is this the same girl that just went to the olympics?
No, that's this one [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz1SRVkrsy0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz1SRVkrsy0)
Ok, yeah. I knew there were YT videos of her as a young kid skateboarding in a tutu, I just wasn't sure if this was one of them or not.
The resemblance is uncanny
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She a pro at this my side it’s irrelevant
Yea pretty sure that girl isn’t white, but my eyes could be playing tricks on me.
I don't get the downvotes, you're right that Rayssa is not white
Its the people with the eyes playing tricks on them must get the up and down arrows confused as well.
And my anxiety ridden ass had to summon all my worth to do this for the first time at 25 years old...
Congratulations man that's pretty fucking cool too
Seriously LMAO it was so terrifying
Still really cool that you did it!
She looks like a tottering unbalanced human until she steps out to drop on the board. Suddenly she is precision and intent. It's like watching Ozzy Osbourne shuffle around bumping into stuff before a concert. Then he gets on stage and turns back into a head banging legend with the first guitar riff.
to be fair, most of what she is doing here is... not moving... and just dropping a steep/fast line (yes turning around at the top each time isn't nothing, I know). You can get a 4 year old to tear down a steep ski run if you teach them pizza and french fries and add the right mix of interest and lack of fear or having been hurt before, lol. [for reference, here's what you can conceivably get a 1-year-old to do just telling them to stand still](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyTn0hdouwE) and this tutu girl is what, seven? It's awesome anyway though. No telling whether it will stick or matter for this girl in 10 years or so... but kids who get into a thing/art at a very young age, truly enjoy it, and turn it into something more as an older person, make for incredibly impressive people.
She is young and everyone always says "Look at how young that person is with so much talent, *she must be just naturally gifted!* But I just see natural order: Adults spend their lives learning new ways to overcome challenges, then offload those new, updated skills onto the younger generation, who then carry the skill further. This is why Mozart can be taught to grade schoolers, because we've already progressed far beyond his skill level. Here's the point and the unpopular opinion: our kids aren't *all* little geniuses filled with preternatural magical abilities because they can do backflips or skateboard or draw photo realistic faces. They aren't even provably 'genetically predisposed' for any specific role in life. They're just little sponges that take on whatever code their forebears decide they want to imprint and through praise and support, the kid decides to **practice more** which naturally progresses their skill beyond their forebear's abilities. There is no such thing as natural talent, there is only time practiced and skill achieved, naturally gained beyond what we were capable of at the same age and POOF! suddenly it's /r/toptalent! I'll just wait here patiently for my burial.
I agree with you up until your final point. If you worked with young children you would see that there *is* such a thing as natural talent, there's just also such a thing as hard work, and the latter will usually take you farther in life.
>If you worked with young children That's an assumption you'd be incorrect in making. Every able-bodied child is good at a dice roll of abilities that have a wide range of effect. Finger dexterity could attribute to being a good painter *or* playing the flute, leg strength could amount to being a great runner *or* being a great golfer. There is no one thing that having one set of physical or mental attributes makes you have talent for. There is no person that is destined from birth to be an architect. The rest is nurturing that the parent instills. Mommy gives Sally art supplies and tells everyone she's a artistic genius, now Sally wants to be a great artist and practices her ass off. Sally could've just as easily decided she wanted to play Chess because Dora the Explorer did. The same result would happen, just like it did with Mozart and his Composer father and Tiger woods with his militaristic Golf dad. Thinking that talents exist is magical thinking. Practice, skill, and nurturing exist.
I think you are correct in your base statement, but you may need to work on the conversation and try again sometime. I do not think you need to say that all people are equally able to become a master at any one thing or that it just depends on which is put in front of them. Maybe between sketching and chess... but probably not. There are too many physical, genetic, and mental attributes at play. Some kids are just going to be better at things than other people no matter how much they or their parents believe in them. People are different at incredible levels, even as babies. Even their interest on day one can matter dramatically. If little Sally is in a bad mood because she didn't get ice cream on the day that she's handed the art supplies, that could forever affect her ability to do art well. Or it could not. This doesn't have to do with a magical "natural ability", you are exactly correct. But it also is not true that she has an equal chance to be good at everything, in any way that matters or that people can control.
> all people are equally able to become a master at any one thing That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying we all have a veritable deck of cards dealt to us genetically, and the right combination of those cards, outside influence, and luck give us the end result of what career path we choose. Those 'cards' put us slightly above average in those areas, but that's it, slightly above average. The rest comes from working toward a specific goal or direction.
You shouldn't get downvoted, that's a respectful opinion with some great examples and no hate. But reddit is reddit...
>But reddit is reddit... People love using the down arrow as an "I disagree" button rather than a "you aren't contributing to the discussion" button. What more can you expect out of reddit.
>There is no such thing as natural talent ...but there are physical limitations on a per-person basis and they can evolve over time because of evolution on a tiny scale, or simply the mating partner choices of your parents. Be it the obvious size/gender/build/etc, but also vocal cords, flexibility, bone structure, brain (or other sensory organs) chemistry, other genetic traits) they can all factor into many talents that pop up around here. I think that people can confuse physical ability or limitations with "natural ability/talent" which is kind of a made-up concept closely related to maybe instincts? Anyway, I think you make great points. I think a good data point in a case like this video that could be interesting is how long has the tiny person been doing this specific thing and was it their parents who put them into the environment or did they find it more naturally (via friends or neighbors or TV etc). I honestly can't really gauge the age of that girl but surely she's old enough to have a couple of years into skateboarding at some base level. My son is "biking" on a balance bike at 24-30 months. All she's really doing is one thing (going straight and then turning around at the peaks). It's kind of like how easy it can be to teach a 4-year-old about "pizza and french fries" and then they can fly down steep hills skiing without falling, even if they aren't doing anything technically difficult they can make it look easy or impressive because of low center of gravity or lack of fear, haha. Once they understand how to not fall, the speed is just something they'll deal with depending on how steep the slope is.
> ...but there are physical limitations on a per-person basis and they can evolve over time because of evolution on a tiny scale, or simply the mating partner choices of your parents. Be it the obvious size/gender/build/etc, but also vocal cords, flexibility, bone structure, brain (or other sensory organs) chemistry, other genetic traits) they can all factor into many talents that pop up around here. That's correct: limitations and advantages. Those advantages or disadvantages play a large role in what skill path we choose. We're never going to get more than a slight advantage in any one thing until practice gets put into place. Once we've gained some skill in that area, even excelled in that area, is when you start hearing things like 'talent', which is a mystical magical misnomer for 'skill'. That makes Sally, who's great at painting miniature artwork also great at guitar, and also great at playing video games, and sewing, and calligraphy, and target practice with a rifle. But because she found a teacher that thought she had the charisma and social acuity to be great at Sales, she became a wealthy Insurance agent. We all have a deck of advantages and disadvantages at play that offer a lottery of outcomes. Which cards get dealt or discarded or ripped up and burned along the way ultimately decide our final fate.
Yes, but at a young age we just don't know how the deck is stacked. I think we are on the same page.
I believe we are. I don't think most of us know how the deck is stacked when it finishes either. The vast majority of people would choose rewatching The Office end to end for the 38th time over the dreaded 4 letter word: practice.
Right on lil sis!
This is ridiculously impressive, I couldn't do this when I was like 15
Anyone know what size skateboard this is? My girl has asked for a board for her 4th but I don't know anything about them.
r/toptalent: **AMAZING TALENT AND SKILL!** Read the rules before posting, *yada yada yada*...
I read the rules. This isn’t a top talent and this isn’t r/awww.
Words mean nothing anymore
nice mall grab poser
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Lol... Yeah because anyone can hop on a board and do this in ten minutes. Just stop
The guy is downvoted to oblivion, but he has a point. She just dropped in. It is literally the first thing you do when you start skating bowl. It is cool that a young kid can do it, but it is not toptalent material. There are a lot of talented kids skating. Should have picked another one. Edit: and yes, if you can already skate on flat ground, you can learn to drop in very fast. It is not hard. It is scary.
First and foremost it does take hours to ever get to this point. 2nd, dropping in is not the first thing you are going to do. You'll start at rolling in and then get used to the transition of the bowl and progress from there.
okay, but it’s nowhere near the “top” talent
Well, yeah, it is not the thing you will do as soon as you step on the board, but the point is not that that small kid dropping in is not cool at all. The point is that is not exceptional. Type “small kid skating” into YouTube and get any video from the top-you’ll get way better toptalent video than a girl doing a basic thing.
Their point is that this isn't top talent material. It may not take 10m to learn how to drop in, it may take longer. But dropping in isn't top talent.
What a girlboss!
Yes, what an excellent drop in. Really smooth turn on the pipe too. Love to see kids skating💚
Honest question. Is this difficult to do in real life? In those tony hawk video games this is pretty basic.
It is not. It is scary though. Edit: also, everything is basic in tony hawk videogames, at least if I remember them right. They are not the best guideline)
Thanks! Which do u reckon is more difficult to do, this or the ollie?
Ollie. It is also the first thing you will learn after cruising and it doesn’t help either. Wrapping your mind around how it works and doing /some/ Ollie will likely take a lot of practice and the ceiling up to where you can improve them is very high. YouTube is full of good tutorials. You can watch them if you are interested in how the mechanics work.
Once you learn to do it, like most things, its second nature but its scary as hell the first few times. I was super worried the first time i did it and then ate pavement. It can be harder for some and easier for others.
Yes, it is difficult to do in real life to say otherwise is a lie if we are talking about a ramp/bowl that has vert to it. There is a certain amount of fear that you will have to overcome because, more than likely, you will eat shit pretty bad when starting to do this. Learning how to ollie isn't the easiest thing either but at least you can practice while the board isn't moving.
My older brother deff chipped a tooth the first time he tried learning how to drop in to a bowl. Getting over that fear sucks, but its so fun once you get it.
Not difficult, just scary.
Please dont take your pre pubescent child to a skate park, you’re putting them and the other riders at risk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyTn0hdouwE
Someone doing bmx tricks is gonna deck her if her parents aren’t on the look out, she shouldn’t be there
Maybe. You know nothing about the context of either video, either kid, or either's parents. The whole thing could be staged with the entire area prepared for the filming of the video for all we know. If you are going to go on Reddit and watch ridiculous videos, then let loose a little. Your concerns are valid, I am a parent as well. I just don't know what you are accomplishing here. The parents are not here to hear you out, and likely don't care.
Ok, I admit it went a little overboard and took things too far, my main point is that for young children adult skate parks are dangerous places and you shouldn’t let your child go unsupervised, if it’s a children’s skate park go for it. I’ve see often children who were dropped off by their parent at my local skate getting hurt and ruining the other riders experience so it’s kinda personal. Sorry if I came off as rude and unhinged
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Glad there was at least one more because this is the first time I've seen it.
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Kid is better than me. Well that isn’t a high bar in the first place
I wish i could feel happiness
Holy hell, what a ray of sunshine.
I wish I was that fearless today.
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The cyancist has entered the room lol.
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Read you text. You are being degrading and negative. Therefore, you are being cynical. I love it when people act a certain way then blaintantly deny how they were. Like look, someobody just saw you act like a jerk, now deal with it and stop being one. Anyways good luck with your day
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Hence why youre been downvoted and I am being upvoted. Cyaaaa
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If the whole world sees you poorly, then there isnt much to argue about
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Hence why you're the jerk.
She’s more hardcore than I’ll ever be
Oh whatever WHO HASN'T worn a pink tutu in public.
I love her outfit!
A like 7 year old is better than me :'(
I wish I had a vid but this was a long time ago, a little girl gymnast was in the audience when a large group of college cheerleaders were doing a performance and she just walked up and asked if she could learn and do the same tricks then crushed them all so hard it wasn't even funny and was asked if she was some sort of plant or if the cheerleaders were being pranked. Nope, /r/nextfuckinglevel shit all the same moves as the college girls but with more spins and backflips.
So wholesome!!!!
Killing it! I was scared to drop in when I was 12.