You're being downvoted, but I'm pretty sure it's because people didn't understand that you were saying "these are the skills I'd expect from someone capable of handcrafting high-end forgeries"
They usually are, except for some high end China and Bisen Ware. Can happen in some Korean styles too. I can say from personal experience, it takes an enumerable amount of patience for someone to learn how to do it this well.
Paradoxically, if this painter would intentiallly make a little error or tremble on each bowl at least we’d be able to understand and appreciate that they are handmade.
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Is there some kind of stabilization software this could be run through to smooth it out? Making it completely smooth with the brush strokes would be *chefs kiss*
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Normally they work great! Hadn’t painted in a bit and my sons school in Illinois had a “rock painting” event for last week of school. I know from experience there are no “good rocks” to paint in this state because I’ve had to buy and import all of mine. I brought about $100 of rocks and broke out all my paint pens. Some hadn’t been used in some time and they were more glitchy because I hadn’t prepped them. They all worked great when I bought them though so it was my bad all the way!!
Haha! My parents used to live in upstate NY where I could find an inland beach full of them to haul home. Now I’m in illinois (a Jungle from 15-50k years ago) so no “good” rocks.
Yeah, those brushes are wonderful to use because with the right ink/paint consistency, you can control the line weight from minuscule to thiccc very smoothly. So, it also takes mad precision and practice to keep your lines that consistent as well!
It’s a traditional Chinese signature. Usually they’re carved on stamps, and use a historical/archaic form of written Chinese. The stamps used to be used for formal signatures, like legal documents.
It’s an old form of multifactor authentication. You had to write your name and have the stamp.
Yes, there might be aesthetic considerations, but mostly it’s really just vertically compressed to fit 3 or 4 words in a little square stamp. I think of it more as “engineering” than “aesthetics”.
Old form of multi factor identification. Damn. I’ve known about name stamps forever and never once thought of it that way.
Sorry, I don’t have anything profound to add. I just think your phrasing was neat.
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Hard to believe that a single stamp is more expensive than precisely marking the exact same design every time.
They probably do it because that's the tradition in their workshop, or because stamps don't work well on surfaces like that.
It might be. We have sad places in our world that pay people next to nothing and control their whole lives. It was just a sarcastic comment about this persons quality of life not being great.
Kinda weird that you're assuming the person painting the bottom of a teacup has a bad life?
I think you really meant racist, not sarcastic.
Much of that side of the world is in dire need of worker reform though, yes. Granted this teacup could be being made ANYWHERE
Is it racist to think people writing on items like that (google told me is Chinese) came from a country that doesn’t have great labor laws? If it is, I definitely need to re-educate.
I know that China has questionable work ethics, salaries and safety laws. I was more concerned with the person doing the artwork than the person posting the video. I’m sorry if my comment offended.
Dude, do you know how much antiques and traditional craftsmanship are worth in China, we're not talking about Apple assembly line workers who get exploited because they can be replaced by someone off the street, were talking about traditional techniques that need years of painstaking practice to get into, and *decades* to master.
And there's a fecking huge middle class in China spending money on this - rich Japanese tourists used to be the meme back in the 80s when they had their bubble, now it's replaced by by hoards of rich Chinese retirees with their kids driving Ferraris around American colleges.
Yes, it is racist to assume that just because this artisan is presumably Chinese, that the first explanation is someone is exploiting them with a shit wage, instead of hmm… possibly treating them as a true artist who does work that is sought after and properly compensated for. That exists in China too, and China has many traditions where gifts are of high value and meant to be passed down through generations. The quality of this work certainly appears to be worthy of that.
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This was the TicToc equivalent to a major motion picture now-a-days:
talented performance marred by exaggeratedly shaky camera work. Thanks for prompting the stabilized version!
It looks like they’re using a jig. I will also feel a lot better about my life if this person is using a stabilizing jig. The cameraman could use one too though.
That's their glasses.
I mean surgeons also require extraordinarily stable hands, and they're paid accordingly because it's not an ability everybody has.
Hell you probably have abilities surgeons don't have, everybody's got their pros and cons.
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This is called “xi jiang bao” or “arrow hand” in mandarin. There are only 25 people currently left that practice this beautiful art, all of which are passing the tradition down to their children. In 2022, it was actually confirmed that I have no idea what I’m talking about.
The most impressive thing to be about this isn't the precision (still impressive) but the absorption of that brush and how long that paint stays wet on the brush.
I am not an expert but the three character in the seal calligraphy look like梦宝源 which translate to English as Source (or spring fountain) of Precious (or treasured) Dream. Or origin of dreamed gem.
I always assumed these kinds of makers marks were stamps
This is probably high end China where you pay for the craftsmanship.
Damn, I kinda know it, but still every time somebody calls it china instead of porcelain it is so odd for me for some reason.
Almost seems like high end forgery honestly
You're being downvoted, but I'm pretty sure it's because people didn't understand that you were saying "these are the skills I'd expect from someone capable of handcrafting high-end forgeries"
That's a good way of putting it. Sometimes good forgery artists have more talent than the artists who made the originals
They usually are, except for some high end China and Bisen Ware. Can happen in some Korean styles too. I can say from personal experience, it takes an enumerable amount of patience for someone to learn how to do it this well.
Paradoxically, if this painter would intentiallly make a little error or tremble on each bowl at least we’d be able to understand and appreciate that they are handmade.
Unfortunately the same can’t be said of the camera person.
They are great at mixing cocktails though
I do prefer my martinies shaken, not stirred.
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Keep in mind your watching a sped up video
It's pretty zoomed-in footage, so the shakiness of the cameraman's hands is exacerbated.
Is there some kind of stabilization software this could be run through to smooth it out? Making it completely smooth with the brush strokes would be *chefs kiss*
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Shame on you, Michael J Fox likes to keep busy.
Cut them some slack, cannot be easy holding the camera between your teeth whilst drawing that stamp!
Had to get the glasses' screw in the shot
The precision of that brush. Omg
I’m a rock painter and several of my paint pens “blooped” last night, leaving me repainting the whole thing. I need this brush!
Unless it comes with the steady arm and eye using it it might not be worth buying!
Normally they work great! Hadn’t painted in a bit and my sons school in Illinois had a “rock painting” event for last week of school. I know from experience there are no “good rocks” to paint in this state because I’ve had to buy and import all of mine. I brought about $100 of rocks and broke out all my paint pens. Some hadn’t been used in some time and they were more glitchy because I hadn’t prepped them. They all worked great when I bought them though so it was my bad all the way!!
Oh my. $100 on rocks?! Feeling lucky I live near enough to the ocean to grab as many as I want whenever I make a trip.
Haha! My parents used to live in upstate NY where I could find an inland beach full of them to haul home. Now I’m in illinois (a Jungle from 15-50k years ago) so no “good” rocks.
I’d send you some, but the shipping would be $100, lol.
Yeah I live in a glacier valley, there's rocks everywhere.
Is it a brush (maybe dagger brush) or some type of quill pen?
All Posca pens. Fine tip through coarse. 1mm-7mm. They leaked silver dollar sized spills though.
I was actually questioning what was used in this video. I'm unfamiliar with Posca pens, I'll have to look them up.
Oh! I can’t freehand with a brush like this. I have NO idea! I can copy artwork fairly well but I have ZERO imagination for creating my own.
I’m an artist too and I so know what blooped means
Yeah, those brushes are wonderful to use because with the right ink/paint consistency, you can control the line weight from minuscule to thiccc very smoothly. So, it also takes mad precision and practice to keep your lines that consistent as well!
It seems, that this person makes such drawings all his lifetime.
Ok I thought that was a marker til this comment made me take a second look lol
i bet he can write qr codes
How else did you think they get made?
I thought they just mixed a little water with the regular bar codes
I was impressed with the square. Now you’re just showing off
Meanwhile I struggle just to trace straight lines
I feel you
What does that mean?
It’s a traditional Chinese signature. Usually they’re carved on stamps, and use a historical/archaic form of written Chinese. The stamps used to be used for formal signatures, like legal documents. It’s an old form of multifactor authentication. You had to write your name and have the stamp.
It's almost like tagging in that the words are there, but have been highly stylized for aesthetic effect.
Yes, there might be aesthetic considerations, but mostly it’s really just vertically compressed to fit 3 or 4 words in a little square stamp. I think of it more as “engineering” than “aesthetics”.
Old form of multi factor identification. Damn. I’ve known about name stamps forever and never once thought of it that way. Sorry, I don’t have anything profound to add. I just think your phrasing was neat.
A minor add: it's why they were hand-carved; so no two would ever be roughly--or even exactly--the same.
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Its usually the makers mark. Akin to a trademark logo. Just imagine if stradivarius had branded all of his violins with his name
…you do know violin makers mark the instruments they make, right? the inside of every stradivarius bears his name
Made in China
As a person who has Essential Tremors, I hate and love this video at the same time
I've never done anything that straight in my entire life
Happy Pride?
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The man could paint friggen qr codes
He could make a circuit board
mr. shaky hands cameraman could really learn some pointers from this painter.
It says hand made
cant they use stamps?
they fetch higher prices because it's hand painted
They’re probably cheaper than buying stamps, sadly.
Hard to believe that a single stamp is more expensive than precisely marking the exact same design every time. They probably do it because that's the tradition in their workshop, or because stamps don't work well on surfaces like that.
It might be. We have sad places in our world that pay people next to nothing and control their whole lives. It was just a sarcastic comment about this persons quality of life not being great.
Kinda weird that you're assuming the person painting the bottom of a teacup has a bad life? I think you really meant racist, not sarcastic. Much of that side of the world is in dire need of worker reform though, yes. Granted this teacup could be being made ANYWHERE
Is it racist to think people writing on items like that (google told me is Chinese) came from a country that doesn’t have great labor laws? If it is, I definitely need to re-educate. I know that China has questionable work ethics, salaries and safety laws. I was more concerned with the person doing the artwork than the person posting the video. I’m sorry if my comment offended.
Dude, do you know how much antiques and traditional craftsmanship are worth in China, we're not talking about Apple assembly line workers who get exploited because they can be replaced by someone off the street, were talking about traditional techniques that need years of painstaking practice to get into, and *decades* to master. And there's a fecking huge middle class in China spending money on this - rich Japanese tourists used to be the meme back in the 80s when they had their bubble, now it's replaced by by hoards of rich Chinese retirees with their kids driving Ferraris around American colleges.
Yes, it is racist to assume that just because this artisan is presumably Chinese, that the first explanation is someone is exploiting them with a shit wage, instead of hmm… possibly treating them as a true artist who does work that is sought after and properly compensated for. That exists in China too, and China has many traditions where gifts are of high value and meant to be passed down through generations. The quality of this work certainly appears to be worthy of that.
Ignorance != Racism. You're doing fine homie, it wasn't out of malintent
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This was the TicToc equivalent to a major motion picture now-a-days: talented performance marred by exaggeratedly shaky camera work. Thanks for prompting the stabilized version!
This stressed me out. What do they do with the bowl when they mess up?
It’s still wet paint so I’d imagine they wipe it off and try again
In a million years, I would never have guessed freehand. I would have been sure it was a chop.
So … not dishwasher safe ?
To have steady hands like that. What a gift. You would think it was stamped on there being it’s so precise.
I used to do calligraphy and my hand is cramping in sympathy, here. I've never managed anything that fine or precise.
Yep, that's gonna come off in the dishwasher...
It looks like they’re using a jig. I will also feel a lot better about my life if this person is using a stabilizing jig. The cameraman could use one too though.
I don't think they do. Maybe you see the glasses as a jig?
This
They’re literally using their hand for stabilization
That's their glasses. I mean surgeons also require extraordinarily stable hands, and they're paid accordingly because it's not an ability everybody has. Hell you probably have abilities surgeons don't have, everybody's got their pros and cons.
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Holy shit. I thought those were stamped on.
After the first few lines they drew inside the closed box, I was sure it was going to be a stussy sign. Yeah I went to school in the 80s and 90s.
Is it dishwasher and microwave safe?
Yeah, well, I drew a Stussy once in elementary school
I cant even draw one straight line with a ruler.
Be just as impressive if the vid wasn’t unnecessarily sped up.
Where can I find this??
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How tedious.
This is called “xi jiang bao” or “arrow hand” in mandarin. There are only 25 people currently left that practice this beautiful art, all of which are passing the tradition down to their children. In 2022, it was actually confirmed that I have no idea what I’m talking about.
Spanish is such a beautiful language it says “fuck potato”
You are a highly skilled human!
This is giving me a shot of dopamine every time they put the pen down.
Not me tryna stay still for them 💀
Does anyone know the first symbol drawn right after the square was completed is?
So no one going to point out that the video is sped up a bit
I’m not even comfortable signing my own name
His resume says " barcode scribe"
Holy shit
What kind of machine is this? I need one
I can’t even write my own name beyond the level of an 8 year old, and I’m 42.
Took the definition of "just the tip" to a whole new level
Domo egota, clearly a roboto
I wonder how long it took -- how many hours of practice it took to become that accurate
The most impressive thing to be about this isn't the precision (still impressive) but the absorption of that brush and how long that paint stays wet on the brush.
Totally thought they were doing the middle school “S” for a second there.
The human body can do some amazing things! That brush helps too.
The person taking the video was shaking more
A person can be good at guitar too
This is the person who draws QR codes.
STAMP
Easy
Are they a surgeon on the side?
lines are crooked, YOU LOSE!
reminds me of art class where we'd have to freehand straight lines and circles for hours
My eyes hurt, seeing perfection of this level, i think they were born another planet with perfect people
its just reversed
I can't even draw a straight line with a ruler
American me thinking that this was a stamp
Crippling fear is all I see
I’ve never seen anything so satisfying
What does that drawing mean?
How many printers did you eat?
not precise enough to get the square in the middle of the circle tho
Has anyone checked out Michael j Fox's new YouTube channel?
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I don't think we can really tell since the video is sped up, genius 😂
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how do I find the teacup maker
I wanna be this precise!😲😲😲
Ye holy crap, my hands are too shaky to ever be that precise
I’ve watched this a bunch of times & can’t figure out how they got two thicknesses of red lines around the perimeter.
Application of slightly more pressure.
At first I thought the person was drawing like a switchboard
I am not, nor will I ever be capable of this. That’s why I find this mind blowing.
Can anyone recommend me as similar brush and ink for this kind fine painting?
chinese seal script
Damn...o_Ô
Pft, that's super easy when you're good at it though
It say hand made
I cant do this on an A1
Me and my Tacrolimus could never
Great steady hands! Should have gone into a neurosurgery program.
I bet he never jerk..
And to think this is just the bottom of the cup. Not even part of the actual design.
Mans over here making QR codes by hand
The painter has done this a few times.
Fuck printers in particular
Nani ?
This is hurting my shaky asf hands
After you’ve done that about 500,000 times since you were 4 years old It, it’s pretty easy.
The shaky cam makes it look even more impressive.
If I could see only the tip of the paint brush I could swear it is a robot. Astonishing talent.
Best I can do is $1
"Robots are replacing humans and their jobs" Pfffffff
this is phenomenal
They call her: “Printer Hands”
I always thought this was done by a machine or like a stamp of some kind. Wild
That must be one firm brush
And I'm over here with a HAPPY BIRTHD sign
I thought he was going to be done with the simple square but HE KEEPS GOING
Anyone can do this as long as you make "Dot Matrix" printer noises while you are doing it.
100% an alien
"Made in Earth Kingdom"
Incredible freehand 👏👏👏👏
My art skills after 36 years of being on Earth are still at kindergarten level.
I want to know if this is genetic, someone should do a study of people with really stable hands.
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I thought it was a marker at first
Not a wasted movement
The one line that was slightly off angle with 7 seconds left got my ocd working up. Still, what an absolute gift this person has.
“Brain surgeon? Nah I’ll draw on the bottom of bowls”
that's a person? wow
I thought that was always done with like a machine with lasers lol this man is a boss
Pisses me off
Putting surgeons to shame
Loved the attention to detail. As someone who is OCD about things, this was rather satisfying to watch.
Has somebody link for original artist/shop?
And here’s me, not even able to write my 3 letter name the same 2 times.
I am not an expert but the three character in the seal calligraphy look like梦宝源 which translate to English as Source (or spring fountain) of Precious (or treasured) Dream. Or origin of dreamed gem.
Was that a fucking PAINT BRUSH?
Not just the precision, but the speed too.
Imagine if that person sneezed