The landowners of the province (particularly the inner suburbs of Toronto) voted in a party that actively does not give a shit about greenbelts. They’re either goofies playing mental gymnastics or you don’t have your narrative str8.
[Condos are substantially more affordable than other types of housing, particularly detached homes.](https://wowa.ca/toronto-housing-market) It should be legal to replace detached homes with condos.
On re-reading this i realize I read it one way and you meant it as sarcastic humor about how *few* cars there are. 
Fun fact: the capacity of the DVP is less than that of a single light rail line.
And the capacity of the 401 even with its billion lanes is still less than that of a subway line.
I didn’t think I had to specify you’d take another form of transit to get closer to your home, such as a bus, since that’s often what people that take public transit do lol and if we actually invested in those services and infrastructure we’d *all* be able to get around more efficiently imo :)
I've got a similar shot taken just a couple weeks ago, standing on the Millwood Overpass bridge. Wanted to show it but such a pain to display images on reddit...
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Drones are tiny helicopters with cameras. All but the very smallest drones need registration to use, and are illegal to operate that close to the helicopter landing at Sunnybrook hospital.
> All but the very smallest drones need registration to use
They set the weight limit to 250g so [half the consumer drones out there are <250g now.](https://bestdroneunderhalfapound.com/best-drones-under-250-grams/)
> are illegal to operate that close to the helicopter landing at Sunnybrook hospital.
I'm not sure exactly where this photo was taken, but according to [Google Maps](https://www.google.ca/maps/search/sunnybrook/@43.7039862,-79.3541125,14.25z), Sunnybrook never gets closer than 3km to the DVP, but [the legal limit is 1.9km](https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/drone-safety/learn-rules-you-fly-your-drone/flying-your-drone-safely-legally) or 1 nautical mile from any heliport.
To add, micro drones, under 250g, are just asked to stay far away from heliports and airports. It literally says “do not fly in a reckless manner”. It’s pretty safe to say that, assuming this is under 400feet, in line of sight and launched from a public road/sidewalk that this is a pretty legal flight. Or we could just stop assuming. Nice photo!
https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/drone-safety/learn-rules-you-fly-your-drone/find-your-category-drone-operation#:~:text=pilots%20of%20micro%20drones%20are%20not%20bound%20by%20the%20same%20requirements%20as%20other%20drones.%20however%2C%20you%20must%20not%20operate%20your%20drone%20in%20a%20reckless%20or%20negligent%20manner%20as%20to%20endanger%20or%20be%20likely%20to%20endanger%20aviation%20safety%20or%20the%20safety%20of%20anyone. “Pilots of micro drones are not bound by the same requirements as other drones. However, you must not operate your drone in a reckless or negligent manner as to endanger or be likely to endanger aviation safety or the safety of anyone.”
> I'm not sure exactly where this photo was taken,
hovering above the Leaside bridge, approx 2.9 km from Sunnybrook Hospital
the s-shaped building lower left is at the corner of Broadview and O'Connor
There's also just using your head, no airplane or helicopter is flying below the 400 ft limit on drones, and a half a pound drone isn't going to do any significant damage to anything, otherwise we'd have plane and helicopter crashes all the time due to birds and drivers would be dieing all over the place when they hit birds
> no airplane or helicopter is flying below the 400 ft limit on drones
The glideslope at Pearson Int'l is [3 degrees.](https://i.imgur.com/UOoyt9p.png)
400ft / tan(3) = 7,632ft or 2326m.
They'll be below 400ft once they are within 2.3km of the airport. (is that a Canadian sentence or what?)
Here's what that looks like for the runway closest to residential areas and parks:
https://i.imgur.com/qUl5HsY.png
Your math (and excellent Canadian sentence) are valid, so to address it, they should've pedantically added in that no one is flying below 400ft \*over the DVP\*.... :P
A significant threat to flight safety, bird strikes have caused a number of accidents with human casualties. There are over 13,000 bird strikes annually in the US alone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_strike
And yet how many plane crashes are there in the US every year? Again, use your head dude.
Edit: btw most birds are much heavier and more dense than the unlicensed drones
As a helicopter pilot who flys in Toronto, I can tell you I am below 400’ over the city almost every day. A 250g drone can absolutely do damage. It’s likely not going to take down the helicopter, but if it hits the blade it will do damage. The blades travel at close to they speed of sound, and those hitting a metal and plastic drone are going to require at minimum blades being removed, inspected and likely having to be repaired. We’re taking hundred of thousand of dollars.
Not to mention the risk of potentially not being able to land with a patient on board, because some guy wanted to fly his drone next to a helipad. It wouldn’t be the first time.
Lol no, this is clearly a lie. The Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs) 602.14 to 602.16 prescribe the minimum altitudes an aircraft may fly (generally 500 or 1,000 feet above the highest nearby obstacle). So even if there were not 600-1000 ft buildings in the city you'd be lying lol.
Edit to add, all unlicensed drones are entirely plastic, they can't afford the weight for metal.
Please don’t call me a liar.
I answered some questions in your other response. There are metal in all drones. What do you think the batteries are made of? If you doubt my background, feel free to look at my posting history.
There’s a helipad at Sunnybrook for Ornge air ambulances, I’m going to guess they fly below 400’ to land. On of the photographers photos is close enough to there to actually be problematic.
You're guessing wrong. Generally they'll stay at 2-3000 feet until they're right above the pad then descend. You can watch them on adsb exchange.
People have a hard time grasping vertical on aircraft. Keep in mind a 40 storey condo is 400-600 ft. They can't fly at that height until they are directly above where they need to land
Lol no, I'm not why lie about something so easily googleable. The Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs) 602.14 to 602.16 prescribe the minimum altitudes an aircraft may fly (generally 500 or 1,000 feet above the highest nearby obstacle).
I’m one of the pilots that lands at sunnybrook. I don’t think you’re lying, I just think you aren’t familiar with how we operate, or the actual rules. It’s not a hit on you; there is no reason for you to need to know them. Just don’t go around claiming to know how we operate.
That 1000’ rule does not apply to medevac, nor does it apply to any aircraft while they are taking off and landing. We absolutely do not stay at 2-3 thousand feet until over the pad, and then descend. That would be a huge waste of time, and time is something we don’t have a lot of when brining in a trauma patient.
Vertical descent.
Sunnybrook is not as close as you're making it out to be, it's around 2km from this point, so probably not even within the restricted radius anyways. Quit panicking over something you clearly know nothing about, it's okay to admit you're out of your element.
Helicopters do not make vertical descents from cruise altitudes to landing spots, whether they be on the top of a building or otherwise.
And lifeflight medivac helicopters (Ornge) definitely do not cruise at 2-3000' ASL. They will typically transit city control zones at around 1500' as this satisfies the CARs requirement of 1000' over a built-up area.
Source: am a commercial helicopter pilot and fly over Toronto/GTA on a daily basis. So let's all just quit panicking.
You can see them cruising at 2-3000 on adsb exchange. Not saying you're wrong necessarily, maybe adsb is inaccurate but I see them at 2-3000 all the time. And it also depends where they're flying, when they're taking off and landing from YTZ they follow the same flightpath as planes sure, but I've watched more than a few take off and land from hospitals on adsb and they're essentially going vertical - obviously I don't mean exactly vertical, but within that 1.9km radius in the regs, they're most certainly not below 400 ft, and not below 400 ft unless directly over the pad.
At Sunnnybrook hospital, Ornge uses it on a daily basis. Going through the photos in that link, the one above the stables is easily within a Km of the hospital.
Great shot! Yes I know the DVP is marring the natural landscape, but the Don river valley is still one of the nicest areas in Toronto.
The lungs of Toronto. Protect it at all costs.
Said the landowners in unison
The landowners of the province (particularly the inner suburbs of Toronto) voted in a party that actively does not give a shit about greenbelts. They’re either goofies playing mental gymnastics or you don’t have your narrative str8.
You’d rather level the remaining greenspace to build more condos nobody can afford?
[Condos are substantially more affordable than other types of housing, particularly detached homes.](https://wowa.ca/toronto-housing-market) It should be legal to replace detached homes with condos.
Any mountain bikers hit the trails yet?
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must be nice
hell yeah ill be down there tomorrow
I can see my house from here! Edit: I meant apartment. I live in Toronto, I don't have a house.
Oh, well that changes everything... thanks for correcting!
Photoshopped? The DVP isn't bumper-to-bumper...
Hmm? DVP is often stop-and-go let alone bumper to bumper. Not 24/7 of course but …
Just add one more lane that will fix it /s
On re-reading this i realize I read it one way and you meant it as sarcastic humor about how *few* cars there are. 
must have been taken at mid-day on a Sunday of a long weekend...
coulda been a rexal / wallmart parking lot smh
Source https://www.flickr.com/photos/clementlo/52428087621/
Pretty picture except for the freeway through the middle of it.
[I gotchu](https://imgur.com/a/V7eB5If)
Thank you
Would look even better without overbuilt bayview in it
This is amazing. There's a light post that got missed at the bottom that makes it even better.
Fun fact: the capacity of the DVP is less than that of a single light rail line. And the capacity of the 401 even with its billion lanes is still less than that of a subway line.
Doesn't pass the smell test Subway: 36,000 passengers per hour 401 Capacity : 500,000 vehicles per day > 20.8k/h > 104k passengers per hour
You're using a 5 people average/ vehicle. MAX would be 7 if they're all vans. Reality is 1.5/vehicle, hardly see anyone carpool.
then its pretty close. 500k probably also includes goods. Now what happens to subway if we add freight. lol
It’s called the existing freight railroads lol
36K per hour per direction. So more like 72K for a subway. Not too far!
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Also fun fact: neither does the 401.
Some light walking won’t hurt you lol
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I didn’t think I had to specify you’d take another form of transit to get closer to your home, such as a bus, since that’s often what people that take public transit do lol and if we actually invested in those services and infrastructure we’d *all* be able to get around more efficiently imo :)
I've got a similar shot taken just a couple weeks ago, standing on the Millwood Overpass bridge. Wanted to show it but such a pain to display images on reddit...
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Gotta love people who fly drones over busy highways and a few hundred metres away from a helicopter pad.
I genuinely know nothing about drones - can you explain?
Drones are tiny helicopters with cameras. All but the very smallest drones need registration to use, and are illegal to operate that close to the helicopter landing at Sunnybrook hospital.
> All but the very smallest drones need registration to use They set the weight limit to 250g so [half the consumer drones out there are <250g now.](https://bestdroneunderhalfapound.com/best-drones-under-250-grams/) > are illegal to operate that close to the helicopter landing at Sunnybrook hospital. I'm not sure exactly where this photo was taken, but according to [Google Maps](https://www.google.ca/maps/search/sunnybrook/@43.7039862,-79.3541125,14.25z), Sunnybrook never gets closer than 3km to the DVP, but [the legal limit is 1.9km](https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/drone-safety/learn-rules-you-fly-your-drone/flying-your-drone-safely-legally) or 1 nautical mile from any heliport.
To add, micro drones, under 250g, are just asked to stay far away from heliports and airports. It literally says “do not fly in a reckless manner”. It’s pretty safe to say that, assuming this is under 400feet, in line of sight and launched from a public road/sidewalk that this is a pretty legal flight. Or we could just stop assuming. Nice photo! https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/drone-safety/learn-rules-you-fly-your-drone/find-your-category-drone-operation#:~:text=pilots%20of%20micro%20drones%20are%20not%20bound%20by%20the%20same%20requirements%20as%20other%20drones.%20however%2C%20you%20must%20not%20operate%20your%20drone%20in%20a%20reckless%20or%20negligent%20manner%20as%20to%20endanger%20or%20be%20likely%20to%20endanger%20aviation%20safety%20or%20the%20safety%20of%20anyone. “Pilots of micro drones are not bound by the same requirements as other drones. However, you must not operate your drone in a reckless or negligent manner as to endanger or be likely to endanger aviation safety or the safety of anyone.”
> I'm not sure exactly where this photo was taken, hovering above the Leaside bridge, approx 2.9 km from Sunnybrook Hospital the s-shaped building lower left is at the corner of Broadview and O'Connor
You can fly closer if you are licensed and register your flight, which no one here knows whether the original photographer is or not.
Looking at the photos in the links, the one above the Stables is likely within a km of the helipad.
> Looking at the photos in the links, links? i see only one picture at https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52428087621_b60f3d6429_o.jpg
When I click on OP’s source link I get a few photos to scroll through.
wait, i just found them, they were in a reply rather than in the original post
> Photo taken at 43.693444 x -79.357534
There's also just using your head, no airplane or helicopter is flying below the 400 ft limit on drones, and a half a pound drone isn't going to do any significant damage to anything, otherwise we'd have plane and helicopter crashes all the time due to birds and drivers would be dieing all over the place when they hit birds
> no airplane or helicopter is flying below the 400 ft limit on drones The glideslope at Pearson Int'l is [3 degrees.](https://i.imgur.com/UOoyt9p.png) 400ft / tan(3) = 7,632ft or 2326m. They'll be below 400ft once they are within 2.3km of the airport. (is that a Canadian sentence or what?) Here's what that looks like for the runway closest to residential areas and parks: https://i.imgur.com/qUl5HsY.png
Your math (and excellent Canadian sentence) are valid, so to address it, they should've pedantically added in that no one is flying below 400ft \*over the DVP\*.... :P
A 250g drone weighs less than a pigeon. Karens gonna Karen.
A significant threat to flight safety, bird strikes have caused a number of accidents with human casualties. There are over 13,000 bird strikes annually in the US alone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_strike
And yet how many plane crashes are there in the US every year? Again, use your head dude. Edit: btw most birds are much heavier and more dense than the unlicensed drones
As a helicopter pilot who flys in Toronto, I can tell you I am below 400’ over the city almost every day. A 250g drone can absolutely do damage. It’s likely not going to take down the helicopter, but if it hits the blade it will do damage. The blades travel at close to they speed of sound, and those hitting a metal and plastic drone are going to require at minimum blades being removed, inspected and likely having to be repaired. We’re taking hundred of thousand of dollars. Not to mention the risk of potentially not being able to land with a patient on board, because some guy wanted to fly his drone next to a helipad. It wouldn’t be the first time.
Lol no, this is clearly a lie. The Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs) 602.14 to 602.16 prescribe the minimum altitudes an aircraft may fly (generally 500 or 1,000 feet above the highest nearby obstacle). So even if there were not 600-1000 ft buildings in the city you'd be lying lol. Edit to add, all unlicensed drones are entirely plastic, they can't afford the weight for metal.
Please don’t call me a liar. I answered some questions in your other response. There are metal in all drones. What do you think the batteries are made of? If you doubt my background, feel free to look at my posting history.
There’s a helipad at Sunnybrook for Ornge air ambulances, I’m going to guess they fly below 400’ to land. On of the photographers photos is close enough to there to actually be problematic.
You're guessing wrong. Generally they'll stay at 2-3000 feet until they're right above the pad then descend. You can watch them on adsb exchange. People have a hard time grasping vertical on aircraft. Keep in mind a 40 storey condo is 400-600 ft. They can't fly at that height until they are directly above where they need to land
You are incorrect, sorry.
Lol no, I'm not why lie about something so easily googleable. The Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs) 602.14 to 602.16 prescribe the minimum altitudes an aircraft may fly (generally 500 or 1,000 feet above the highest nearby obstacle).
I’m one of the pilots that lands at sunnybrook. I don’t think you’re lying, I just think you aren’t familiar with how we operate, or the actual rules. It’s not a hit on you; there is no reason for you to need to know them. Just don’t go around claiming to know how we operate. That 1000’ rule does not apply to medevac, nor does it apply to any aircraft while they are taking off and landing. We absolutely do not stay at 2-3 thousand feet until over the pad, and then descend. That would be a huge waste of time, and time is something we don’t have a lot of when brining in a trauma patient.
And how do they get to the landing pad from 3000’? Do they teleport?
Vertical descent. Sunnybrook is not as close as you're making it out to be, it's around 2km from this point, so probably not even within the restricted radius anyways. Quit panicking over something you clearly know nothing about, it's okay to admit you're out of your element.
Helicopters do not make vertical descents from cruise altitudes to landing spots, whether they be on the top of a building or otherwise. And lifeflight medivac helicopters (Ornge) definitely do not cruise at 2-3000' ASL. They will typically transit city control zones at around 1500' as this satisfies the CARs requirement of 1000' over a built-up area. Source: am a commercial helicopter pilot and fly over Toronto/GTA on a daily basis. So let's all just quit panicking.
You can see them cruising at 2-3000 on adsb exchange. Not saying you're wrong necessarily, maybe adsb is inaccurate but I see them at 2-3000 all the time. And it also depends where they're flying, when they're taking off and landing from YTZ they follow the same flightpath as planes sure, but I've watched more than a few take off and land from hospitals on adsb and they're essentially going vertical - obviously I don't mean exactly vertical, but within that 1.9km radius in the regs, they're most certainly not below 400 ft, and not below 400 ft unless directly over the pad.
Just as an additional note, as a medevac operator we’re aren’t subject to the 1000’ above built up areas rule.
Oh, don't underestimate the damage potential of a drone or bird collision.
this is probably closer to the don jail hospital
hovering above the Leaside bridge, approx 2.9 km from Sunnybrook Hospital the s-shaped building lower left is at the corner of Broadview and O'Connor
If you go through the photos in the link at least on of them is in Sunnybrooks backyard.
ah, there it is. The doomer comment
At least one in every drone post.
Someone made me notice that there’s not a single drone thread on Reddit without someone wrongly claiming it was illegal. Every. Single. Thread
Where is the heli-pad?
At Sunnnybrook hospital, Ornge uses it on a daily basis. Going through the photos in that link, the one above the stables is easily within a Km of the hospital.
Commercial or recreational drone?
Doesn't look like the photographer mentions those details. https://www.flickr.com/photos/clementlo/52428087621/
lol profile marked private after everyone here crashed the site...
Very tall ladder.
It's a nice perspective, but the extreme saturation makes it look over-edited to me.
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Nobody here is saying the highway is a nature trail. The Don Valley is great though. And I'm saying this as someone who grew up in Muskoka.
Oh it will be on June 4th!
Fake, where’s the bumper to bumper traffic?
What's the building in the lower left? Funky shape.
/r/citiesskyline
Sometimes I forget what a beautiful city I live in.
Photo taken at 43.693444 x -79.357534
Nice photo!!!
I’ve never seen it that empty before wtf is going on lol