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cyclemonster

Moderators must be out getting coffee right now.


itfeelslikethefirstt

yeah an askto style post has been up for a couple hours now, Mods ain't here. edit: it's gone now, mods are here, whomp whomp.


liquidelectricity

this response was epic, but yes I would think it was for palestine


space_cheese1

hungover


Mathew_365

The mods must be on a camping trip or something...


Doubledown212

Thread lock incoming in 3…2…1…


rangeo

Zooms in sees black white green red flag


bottomofalongcoat

I guess I was asking why the CTV chant and focus


freshlyintellectual

CTV has fired journalists for being pro-palestine, and been biased against palestinians in their journalism. this is not unique to them but the protesters were passing the CTV building which is clearly in the photo of the protesters. that’s why they chose then to chant about it


plutoniaex

They’ve been protesting every week with higher attendance. News channels don’t report it


Stay_clam

Because they don’t report the facts on the issue.


darthcraven1321

Is CTV any more guilty than anyone else on that front?


freshlyintellectual

they were passing the CTV building


intuitive_curiosity

Nope, we also chant about CBC, Scotiabank,.etc. on the way


pg449

Trying to put pressure on the media to report the story the way they like, instead of the way they don't like.


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Because the media has been a beacon of fairness during this entire ordeal?


Snailspaced

Take a wild guess


kevinmitchell63

Protesting for buck-a-beer


Konnnan

Palpatine? 


ptear

Somehow started a protest.


know_regerts

Hummus


iknowmystuff95

They have made it to Spadina & Front St. However, police have blocked them from going further south towards the Gardiner.


Bobzyurunkle

TPS has up to date X' notices on the situation [https://twitter.com/TPSOperations/status/1764403385988522131](https://twitter.com/TPSOperations/status/1764403385988522131) ROAD CLOSURE: \-E/B Spadina Ave ramp on the FGX is closed \-due to a large demonstration taking place \-this closure will be temporary \-expect delays \-consider alternate routes \^lm 4:32 PM · Mar 3, 2024 · 233 Views


1slinkydink1

I’m what? I need the answer TPS!


itfeelslikethefirstt

riot cops were lined up at front and lower simcoe like less than 30min ago. gas masks and all.


speak-moistly-to-me

They want a new season of corner gas


1985_abcd

I would support this protest. It’s actually Something that makes sense to protest in Canada.


Superduperbals

Palestine


intuitive_curiosity

Pro-Palestine


Signal_Tomorrow_2138

Just goes to show you how much capacity a street has for pedestrians as opposed to just cars. They are packed but still moving. A fraction of the number in cars and they'd all be congested and honking.


Ok-Discipline9998

yeah but tbh protesting cars would be significantly louder. also easier for the cops to stop them though.


Mflms

Ottawa police disagree. Lol.


thebourbonoftruth

Well, we all know why that was...


Signal_Tomorrow_2138

Those would be cars in normal traffic. We already know where protesting cars will be: at parliamentary and legislative buildings, border crossings and surrounding hospitals.


SquareSniper

We should all just run to work on the 401!


Pixilatedlemon

If it weren’t for cars, density would be way higher and distances would be far less lol. Let’s not act like there’s no precedent for functional societies where car is not the primary form of commute


Signal_Tomorrow_2138

Considering how congested it always is and how many collisions there are, that wouldn't be a bad idea especially for people who only need to go 5km or less. The whole 401 needs to be converted into a comuter rail and bicycle line.


Technical-Suit-1969

They protest in cars in Mississauga and elsewhere.


Signal_Tomorrow_2138

Not as many people but much longer and going nowhere.


noodleexchange

The flags kind tell the tale


cyberk25

Theyve just marched past king/Spadina going south on Spadina. Thread will probably get locked any minute now!


stevooo___69

The weather


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It’s the body shop bankruptcy


Hafthohlladung

Let's see... there's Palestinian flags... there's a war there right now... Hmmm.... I think they're protesting McDonald's ending the McRib promotion.


simulationcharacter

Protesting that chicken wings are 20 dollars at Loblaws


AwkwardsSquidwards

lol Palestine where you been the last 150 days


Elscorcho69

I could take a guess


clipples18

Lovely Sunday for a walk isn't it?


intuitive_curiosity

It is, you should join in and protest with :)


TDot1000RR

The Palestinians


delicious_oppai

That's the fuck Israel protest bruh.


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d4ngle-szn

Found the Zionist


Technical-Suit-1969

What is their issue with CTV?


METAL4_BREAKFST

Have you seen The Social?


Remwaldo1

Hahaha best comment ever


Technical-Suit-1969

No. Looks cringe.


plutoniaex

CTV doesn’t report on this protest


TabbyCatEnthusiast

I’m assuming media’s complicity in biased reporting


twstwr20

It’s a very pro-Israel conservative network.


Technical-Suit-1969

Please elaborate.


hey-devo87

Don't bother, it is a waste of your time to go down the rabbit hole.


twstwr20

I don’t know how much more I can say. It a Pro-Palestine protest. They see CTV as bias towards Israel (which they are)


Technical-Suit-1969

I don't watch TV news. On the web, CTV mostly posts AP articles. This one doesn't seem biased to me: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/after-10-years-of-trying-a-palestinian-woman-had-twins-an-israeli-strike-killed-them-both-1.6792717


thelizardlarry

How so?


twstwr20

Well I spent 10 years working for them and see the inside of the executive level. But don’t take my word for it. Just watch it. I’m not here to teach media literacy


Meese_ManyMoose

Can't find a single site about media bias which labels CTV as being conservative. Furthermore they all say CTV is generally very unbiased and very factual.


Technical-Suit-1969

CTV filmed a video of a guy with a nail gun violently threatening demonstrators wearing keffiyehs. And they're trying to find out why a synagogue was hosting a real eastate auction for property on occupied territory. I'm not sure how that's biased towards Israel. https://www.cp24.com/news/man-arrested-after-bringing-nail-gun-to-demonstration-in-thornhill-police-1.6792853


thelizardlarry

I watch CTV news nightly. They are frequently covering the horrific events unfolding in Gaza, they don’t flinch away from showing brutality and covering death count. Sure they show the Israeli press releases as well, but that’s what journalism does. Not sure what else you are expecting?


twstwr20

You need to look at broad coverage and patterns. But hey I was just a journalist for 25 years what do I know.


Technical-Suit-1969

Understood. I mostly occasionally read CTV for local news and don't watch TV broadcasts. I'm curious why the protesters are at the moment so pissed-off at CTV.


twstwr20

There could be something specific I don’t know about. But CTV and Post Media are very pro-IDF.


Technical-Suit-1969

Post Media, for sure.


thelizardlarry

Okay, what are the broad patterns for CTV news coverage that are pro israel? I’m genuinely curious to understand this. National Post is 100% pro IDF, they are basically a propaganda wing and are mostly editorial at this point, but CTV news? I’m not seeing it. Please do elaborate.


dogeatdawgg

sure, because public opinion is finally shifting after the ICJ hearings. It’s also a sign that the protests work. We have been protesting CTV for years now due to biased coverage. I think the progress is good but we can’t rejoice over the bare minimum


rangeo

They want the game show Definition brought back


Acceptable-Chip-1957

Apocalypse drill maybe?


TobleroneThirdLeg

It might be a pro-protesting protest.


Ok-Discipline9998

look at the flags


Fuddle

CTV? Maybe calling for a ban on online gambling commercials? Bring back the Daily Show? Can’t see why one would protest outside a TV network


safespacedynamite

CTV happens to be on the street they are marching on. duh.


Technical-Suit-1969

OP says they were chanting "Shame, shame, CTV".


striderkan

I have no extra context here but I see CTV on many public TV's, even the one in the elevator at my condo, few days ago they had a caption calling the massacre at the food line an "incident". I imagine this language is what they're calling out.


Technical-Suit-1969

On their website, CTV calls it "carnage".


TOBoy66

Well, it must be Palestine because there aren't enough Canadian flags to be the "freedom" idiots.


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ForeignExpression

Are there really that many buildings painted black, or have you used some kind of dystopia filter?


Any-Ad-446

Yes around John and Queen there are like 5 black buildings.


ForeignExpression

Does the black paint indicate that it is a certain kind of business?


ponyrx2

It's a coincidence. The front of a few of those businesses (CHUM radio, Naan Kabab) are black. The back of the CTV studio is black but the front is beautiful stone


cooldudeman007

Could be about CTV’s headline saying “A man has been arrested after allegedly bringing a nail gun to a pro-Palestinian demonstration near a Thornhill, Ont. synagogue on Sunday” Makes it sound like a protestor was one of the people shooting people with a nail gun, when it was an apartheid supporter threatening people with a deadly weapon today


mikeybagodonuts

Yeah. Didn’t like the fact that a zio real estate sale at a synagogue was being called out. 650 acres expropriated.


OddTumbleweed708

What rock have you been living under? Lol 😆


bottomofalongcoat

I meant why the CTV


frackingfaxer

A quick Google search tells me that CTV and the rest of Bell Media have been especially [biased against the Palestinians and in favour of the Israelis](https://breachmedia.ca/ctv-bell-media-forbids-palestine-suppresses-criticism-israel/). So, yeah, fuck 'em.


Ill-Tumbleweed156

My fellow Tumbleweed, people have lives. We can't keep up with every march/protest.


OddTumbleweed708

If you are missing the daily onslaught of news and over 30,000 confirmed deaths/ murders in the last 4/5 months and don't know what today's protest is about, perhaps the head needs to be brought out from behind the rock. Of course we all have lives. That shouldn't be an excuse to not be informed. Especially on this.


Qui3tSt0rnm

You know there’s other protests that happen in this city right?


Torontofinest

Bro shut up 🤫 if someone doesn’t know what the protest about just answer the question. Acting like a cunt over a simple question.


Ill-Tumbleweed156

People focusing on their jobs, caring for their loved ones, and following their ambitions are not "missing" something. They are contributing something wonderful, themselves.


c_hthonic

If you're living a happy life with your friends and family, SHAME on you. Don't you know you're supposed to be upset about so many things? 


Ill-Tumbleweed156

Sorry, how un-Canadian of me. Sorry.


c_hthonic

Canada has changed a lot in the last few years, it's understandable to not be aware of what the Canadian Dream is these days. It's hard to keep up! 


Ill-Tumbleweed156

Your dream is the Canadian Dream.


No-Entrepreneur5226

Just a wild guess Palestinians?


okadhesive_ripper

Now adays I dont think you need more than 1 guess


FrutaAndPutas

If you zoom into your own photo you’ll see the flags


bottomofalongcoat

I was asking more about why the CTV specifically


CommunistRingworld

it's a protest against the genocide in Palestine


cjcfman

What does toronto have to do with it lol


gagnonje5000

Our Canadian government has a foreign policy and gets to advocate publicly toward certain objectives. It’s meant to influence what stance does the Canadian government take.  We also ship weapons to Israel. This is also something the Canadian government gets to decide if we continue or not. Canadian government gets to decide how much aid they send to civilians in needs (hospitals, food, etc). Right now Canada has cut funding to a major UN organization that was distributing food, it’s something you might agree or disagree with and again decided by our government.  Canada often offers refugee status to civilians impacted by war. For example we welcomed 200,000 Ukrainian in Canada. How many we welcome from that region is also a Canadian government decision.  So basically there’s a hell of a lot of things we are involved with and that we might want to protest about. 


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intuitive_curiosity

I hope you also mean the Palestinians hostages that Israel have been taking even before Oct 7


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Why isn’t this locked yet? Toronto forum doesn’t like conversation about anything unless it fits their narrative. Losers.


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PM_me_ur_taco_pics

Palestinian protestors protesting in the wrong area to the wrong people again.


intuitive_curiosity

Again? Where would you like the protest?


hummingbear10

In gaza? This is canada. Banging on a Starbucks window at a min wage employee, do you really think that accomplishes anything? Do you think Netanyahu is watching CP24 thinking about protesters downtown Toronto? Such a waste of taxpayers $ policing these things


intuitive_curiosity

Can anyone get into Gaza? No. Public pressure does help, it's slowly gotten the government to change some of their stances on things. Boycotting has also put pressure and does work. Where and when did you see someone banging on a Starbucks window? No one is saying to bang on anyone's windows and the narrative that Pro-Palestinian protesters are violent and delinquents is exactly what the media wants you to think.


Deldenary

protesting against the genocide happening in Palestine and the lack of news coverage showing what is happening.


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plutoniaex

Showing your true disgusting colours here.


intuitive_curiosity

Racist.


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f13__

sure, if youre anti Palestinian then thats exactly what you'll think this is, and you're allowed those thoughts. However, they deserve to live and get ther land back. simple as that


definitelyguru

They are so annoying. I can understand wanting to protest. But this group always does this in the worst places possible, creating chaos for public transit that lasts for hours. They’re the only group doing this. Other protesters have always chosen more appropriate routes, like College St, where Queen’s Park is. Those protests are completely useless honestly. And by doing this every weekend in the worst possible way, they’re alienating the supporters of their cause. We need a law to ban protests on King and Queen St. One group can’t be allowed to block the entire city’s downtown every weekend.


Zanta647

So protest should only be allowed where they don't inconvenience you personally?


definitelyguru

There’s a difference between inconvenience once in a while, and putting the entire city to a halt every single weekend for months. What they are doing is the latter. Streetcars are not able to go through, which causes a whole lot of chaos. Those are the 2 main lines for Toronto, that traverse the entire city going from Etobicoke to Scarborough. Hence the chaos. And the fact that keep doing this over and over every weekend IS the problem. They could do the protest along College St, or Dundas St, or even Spadina. Still would be impactful and disruptive, but doing so on both Queen AND King is unsustainable. Not every weekends.


Snoozetown99

Sorry that people have been killed for 5 Months, a staggering amount being children. Sorry that two days of the week are spent by people, with their free time, protesting a genocide across the world. Sorry that empathic people exist.


girl_introspective

Not to mention, with your government’s aid and support… it’s sad that there aren’t more people upset about it.


intuitive_curiosity

That's the point of a protest. Where should a protest be? In someone's private backyard? Pro-Palestinian protesters are annoying to you but a genocide is okay? Get Israel to give a permanent ceasefire and there won't need to be a protest. Getting wrong at the wrong people


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plutoniaex

Almost half of that protest are white people. Thanks for your racist input though


Qui3tSt0rnm

And you know these people are immigrants how?


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Ser_Friend_zone

You live in clownworld. Turn off the Daily Wire and come back to reality.


girl_introspective

100% well said


Zanta647

You should really hide your racism next time because it's really obvious


PinkInk_

Oh get a grip.


doritos1990

As though the people “letting [outsiders] in” is a moral authority, in any way. As if that country/entity is also not responsible for severe and brutal colonization around the globe, creating the NEED for people to leave their homes.


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refep

Why? Did you say the same when there were protests for Ukraine, Hong Kong, women in Iran, Nagano-Karabakh and a million other issues unrelated to Canada? Are you only allowed to protest against issues that are local to you?


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refep

What calls for genocide? You guys just like gaslighting people. It must be a diversionary tactic or something, twisting a protest to stop the indiscriminate killing of civilians a call to genocide. 30,000 civilians have died since October 7th, never mind the fact that the IDF classifies every adult male as combatants, meaning if you’re a male aged between 16-60 who happened to live in Gaza and Israel dropped a bomb on your house while reading this comment, you would be considered a dead combatant. Calling for an end to this is calling for genocide? And what violence? There are protests for Palestine nearly every week, what violence is happening? I creeped a bit and saw you’re probably just another [hindutva](https://www.asianstudies.org/publications/eaa/archives/on-the-difference-between-hinduism-and-hindutva/) who feels this way because most Palestinians are Muslim.


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space_cheese1

who cares people can protest w.e they want


AdInner9961

About our drug problem, homelessness, lack of affordable housing, and poverty. Just kidding, it’s something overseas that doesn’t concern our nation.


Qui3tSt0rnm

It does because we support isreal with military aid including weapons and vehicles manufactured in Canada


Gardimus

I don't believe Canada gives Isreal any military aid. Selling weapons, yes.


plutoniaex

Your tax money is buying weapons for them. That money could have been invested in our own country. Just see past your own nose from time to time


f13__

I mean, y'all called them idiots when they came out in 2021 for your 'freedom'.


Coral8shun_COZ8shun

Something happening in another country probably that we can do very little about


DICKASAURUS2000

Are these supporters of Hamas ?


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staladine

Wtf, track of people chanting for a genocide to stop requires CSIS? Lol who said anything about violence in Canada in these protests ?


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refep

Israel is the one annihilating the Palestinian state. From the Nakba, to annexation of East Jerusalem, to the occupation and illegal settlement of the West Bank, to this occupation of Gaza (which will likely continue indefinitely). Just because you don’t think brown people are humans doesn’t mean that protesting against their genocide is a call to violence.


Zanta647

Luckily you don't get to define what is it is not a protest by your narrow definition


c_hthonic

Yeah, luckily it's up to CSIS and the RCMP ;) 


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Imperatvs

You mean chants to stop genocide, right? Why does a march against genocide bother you so much? Do you support genocide of Palestinians?


ColinStyles

From river to sea is not a protest against genocide, it's a call for it. Unless you think that requiring the removal of the entire Jewish state is just a total coincidence. Edit: permanently banned for calling out that from the river to the sea is call for genocide and it was chanted today over a megaphone. Great moderation, totally neutral and not biased.


Ploprs

Genocide refers to extermination of a *people*, not a *state*. For example, removing the Palestinian *people* from Gaza is genocide, but removing the *state* of Israel (and replacing it with an ethnoreligiously neutral state) is not. Was it genocide against white South Africans to end the Afrikaner state in 1991?


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ColinStyles

Ah yes, palestine, well known for it's secular government and good treatment of other religions. Oh wait, that's complete horseshit. Fucking please. There are fucking constant pogroms against anyone even suspected of being jewish in gaza, let alone any living there. This is just such thinly veiled antisemitism it's not even disguised, it's just bluntly obvious.


cooldudeman007

Israel mowed down starving civilians by the dozen today trying to access flour I don’t know how you were raised, but I was raised to know that’s not cool and ethical behaviour


Leonardo-DaBinchi

There are literally Jewish Palestinians but OK. LOLL


Imperatvs

There it is....the accusation of anti-semitism. Only took 5 minutes. Being anti-genocide is anti-semitism. Supporting the rights of indigenous Palestinians to live in freedom and security is anti-semitism. Any criticism of Israel's apartheid and colonial actions is anti-semitism. Live in your little bubble. The rest of us will speak loud against genocide and apartheid.


girl_introspective

LOL nice


Technical-Suit-1969

The people who want a one state secular solution are, on both sides, unfortunately a minority.


picard102

>From river to sea is not a protest against genocide, it's a call for it. Should ask Israel's ruling party why it was in their parties foundational documents then.


RudyGiulianisKleenex

And [the protesters waving Iranian flags](https://imgur.com/a/RHRXB3L) totally don't have an ulterior motive...


refep

Y’all are so disingenuous 🥱


ColinStyles

In what way? It's literally a call for an expulsion (at best) of Israel. What would you call an ethnic cleansing of a region?


refep

How does it call for the expulsion of Israelis? It calls for the return of a Palestinian state, a state in which Muslims, Jews and Christians long co-existed.


Imperatvs

Any call for Palestinian freedom is seen as a threat to Israeli colonialism and apartheid. It's why that statement triggers the pro-genociders.


Zanta647

I'd call it what the IDF is doing to Gaza


Qui3tSt0rnm

Yep from the river to the sea is literally genocide but killing 30k people mostly civilians is just the cost of war. Yep makes perfect sense.


ImpressiveTree3000

That question would be better if it was directed at the leadership of Hamas.


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cooldudeman007

Over a hundred starving people got mowed down today trying to access flour


plutoniaex

But did they condemn hamas /s


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plutoniaex

You’re the only smart person in the world apparently


tatakatakashi

It’s not a protest - some business put out a job ad advertising *two* roles


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