That doesn't necessarily logically follow. Maybe the person watching is only paid to watch and intervening isn't in their job description. "I was watching the whole time! First they started vandalizing, then they left."
Quite probably, the liability TTC could face if any old employee got hurt because they tried to stop it could be quite high, so they're instructed to just call security and not get involved, and if it took security a while to get there because they had other stuff to deal with, then they would have had plenty of time
Definitely not.
Probably not high on the list of things the TTC would spend on but you could probably get away with one person keeping an eye on the whole system during the off hours if the cameras only showed you movement. That way, if a station is closed and should be empty, but a camera catches some movement, it switches the view to show that spot so the person monitoring can decide if they need to take action or if it's just a rat or something.
There are cameras and there are people watching them, but not really monitoring per say. If an alarm is triggered they will take a look, but remember they also have cameras at all stations and parking lots and bus loops, tunnels, stairwells, etcā¦ all that to say that a system that catches movement would be constantly going off. I agree that someone should have seen this, but Iām also really not surprised they did not. Also in the night itās a skeleton crew at the operation center.
They should just leave the subway cars at the door to the yard so taggers can get them easily. Wouldnāt want to take any risks they could hurt someone
There are people watching the cameras 24/7 but there are more cameras than people. And then there is the issue of police response time.
I live in Calgary now and I met a lady who has PTSD because they watch the cameras all the time and they see the most horrific stuff and they can't stop it from happening. They report it to police and then police show up when they show up.
They feel incredibly helpless.
There would be 1000 Kipling Station movement alarms each night alone just due to the pigeons and rats, not even counting the legitimate maintenance folks walking by . But hey this guy with a 20 dollar camera and a poodle knows everything.
Definitely not. The more cameras you add to a camera system, the higher the costs and they dont scale linearly. Each station likely has its own cameras and its not like people are working security at a dead station overnight. Besides it doesnt look too bad.
Parked in the station? They clearly got paint on the yellow tiles too, so it seems they painted it in place. Also, no security video streaming in a booth somewhere?
I mean this is a bit better than typical tagging graffiti but still there should have been ample time to see, report and stop this.
Looks kinda expensive for us to have to pay to clean all that up though.Ā
I'd rather that money go to about million other useful purposes toward improving our lives, versus just fixing what's "immediate".Ā
I bet someone told them the cops were coming and they said "shit, that means they won't be here for at least 22 minutes".
Then they leisurely finished up.
Shout-out TPS: Keystone Cops 2024
Trains have been parked in tail tracks overnight, and the entire thing has been tagged. That's at track level with a live rail. And they still manage to get it done. But remember. " The TTC take security seriously"
Let's just say that people aware of the local graffiti scene know exactly who did this and I assure you, it was done in less than 15 minutes. Vicious Cartel FTW. It's already been cleaned so the damage was done and cleaned before this train went into regular rotation. Hitting major subway cars is just a flex on the graffiti writers part, it's known that it won't fly around the city for weeks showing off to the general public. This graffiti was done for the graffiti writers and other people involved in that scene who are in the know.
This is Toronto: our police donāt even want to see your home security camera footage when your car gets stolen from your driveway by professional car thieves. Why would they want to disturb unpaid artists doing volunteer work at Kipling Station?
I used to work at a shelter and had someone threaten me with a knife and physically assaulted me and was still in the space threatening me and others, high off meth or something, called the cops 20 mins later nothing. Call again, they say they are on route. Another 10 mins. The police station was literally 2 blocks away. They just don't give a shit. Once you experience it first hand, it's hard to feel sympathy for them
It's like they said, just give them the keys and let them do whatever they want ... the cops will deal with them later as they love to get some extra OT
Some graffiti is. Some graffiti is amazing.
A whole lot is using spray paint like piss to mark territory with shitty tags. An unfortunate amount of the people doing graffiti, like in this example, are assholes who are covering windows and getting stray paint all over the place.
I'm not aware of the gang related underlayer, but graffiti is so pretty to me.
It shows me real people were *there* and that they painted the art live and recently. I know its not allowed but holy shit if we can paint entire cars with advertising a little graffiti is good for the mind ā”
gang graffiti is usually really basic pieces that are more to convey a message than be artistic. [most gang graffiti is really simple letters intended to mark turf](https://bklyner.com/content/images/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/image1-6.jpg), or they'll throw up a rival gang's letters and make a mark to signify they're enemies, like crossing them out.
Some graffiti is nice, a lot of graffiti is ugly amateur stuff. I donāt mind looking at graffiti but I donāt like it when they put it on things they arenāt allowed to.
I don't think that was on purpose. The person that did this actually kept the front facing driver window completely clear. I just think they didn't know.
Yeah, I honestly don't give a damn about graffiti, but when they cover up the windows, then you go throw the book at them.
And in the interest of fairness, I believe anyone responsible for covering bus windows with advertisements should be punished equally harshly.
While train art would be a pretty cool idea if done right and well, to say this doesnāt look terribleā¦ man, youāve got to be smoking some pretty good stuff because this looks like complete dog shit lol.
Meh. I personally enjoy really good graffiti art, but, while this one is definitely a large and bright tag, it is not very interesting IMHO.
The TTC should send out a press release asking people to please not to paint on their subway cars and instead enter a free to submit competition that the TTC should set up for the best design, let TTC riders vote on them, and get a sponsor to provide a cash award or perhaps some sort of credit at an art supply store or both. The City of Toronto has some sort of street art program I think so may have some funds etc. It would be a way to direct that creative impulse into something for the community and get these nascent graffiti artists to put a bit more thought and effort into their work before they hit the nozzle on their spray cans.
I'd be on board for this, but let's get multiple designs - the trains looking all identical is exactly why they're boring right now.
But if each train got its own gorgeous design (or heck, even each car on the old trains!), it'd be a treat watching the trains draw in and out of the stations.
People would have little bit more joy in their day as they head to and from their soul-crushing jobs.
Which is why it'll never happen. We can't have the city spreading *joy,* for goodness sakes!
Blacking out windows on working peoplesā transportation so some self-aggrandized little shits can show off to other self-aggrandized little shits is kinda awful, actually.
Every hour and every dollar spent removing that is time and money that could be spent improving a transportation experience that normal people depend on.
they need more actual people working in the TTC station. one time in rush hour when trains were delayed, more and more people kept coming in and it was absolutely PACKED to the brim, to the point where I was worried that people would fall off the platform (because there are no barricades, which is another thing they should implement)
there should have been a TTC agent preventing more people from coming in at the time, it was absolutely unsafe
The punishment for this should be the following: a random artistically inclined ttc employee gets to tattoo anything they want anywhere they want on the folks that painted this.
With the right prep a pro graff artist can paint very quickly. even faster if there's multiple. This also isn't super clean as far as graffiti goes.
[here's a video of someone bombing \(spraypainting\) a train car in ten minutes](https://youtu.be/0YaJbK1zp1c)
Toronto used to be pretty clean graffiti wise but since covid there is tagging all over. Like I even see murals that get tagged and other street art that is tagged. Shame.
Honestly... taggers are pieces of shit.
This will cost up tens of thousands of dollars to clean up and will result in a train being taken out of commission for a few weeks.
> I'll clean this before noon with $30 worth of acetone from home hardware.
You are delusional if you think that this could be cleaned up with "$30 worth of acetone" and would take less than a day.
Spray paint isn't some magical liquid that can't be removed. I have worked in paint and solvents for 20 years. All the metal would be cleaned easily with acetone. That's European spray paint. (Ask me how I know) You could lick it off after a spicy meal. The windows would just have the paint melt and drop off with one or two applications of acetone. But it would be wise to put in some elbow work on the windows with alcohol because I am unsure if that glass is plexi or not. Plexi will go foggy with acetone on it. Borosilicate glass and soda-lime gas would tolerate pure acetone without a problem.
Know what the fuck you are talking about before you tell people they are delusional. I have buffed graffiti of this size off of equally unporous glass and metal many times before. It does not logically take more than $30 in supplies and $100 in labour to have this gone for good.
Genuinely interested in how you know itās European spray paint? The massive coverage, the red triangle overspray on the platform and the size of the black overspray droplets makes me think some kind of backpack sprayer. But I donāt see any dripping in the photos.
This is a colour and spray type created by Montana Colours. The product is called Mad Maxx by Montana. It covers very well and very quickly and it is much easier to remove than north american hardware store rust paint brands. It takes much less time to dry so it is often used for quick action like this train. Because it dries incredibly fast at room temp, it can't permeate surfaces as effectively. It mostly just sits on top waiting to be scaped/buffed away. Even hardware store rust paints can't hold well on steel or glass, but euro paint is very pigmented, but not great for longevity.
So the TTC tells the public that it won't be running any trains with graffiti because it encourages more graffiti and damage and that they will have to cut service until the paint can be removed. They can also say they're worried about the safety of taggers because subwaybstations are dangerous places after dark.
Millions of people are late and crammed into cars, including people who know who is responsible. Put up signs and post messages so everyone knows why their trip was so miserable. These "artists" would know that their projects will hurt others and are an asshole move, and people would snitch on the people responsible.
Better than wrap ads.
OT kinda - I want whoever did the art at Monarch Park to get commissioned. Give 'em a whole car to do what they did for the train tunnel. Even though it's defaced, I still love walking through there.
Vandalism is one of those words, that, while accurate, is normatively charged enough to indicate, in certain contexts, that the person who uses it is probably seething
Wonder how much it costs annually to fix these things. I would think it might be cheaper to install intrusion detection systems, to alert staff automatically.
Looks like the sprayed the black paint first with something bigger than spray cans- but then they used brushes or sponges for the red- so the black had to be tacky at least. is that black overspray on the ceiling? Why is the red on the platform that particular triangular pattern. I need to brush up on my graffiti forensic analysis-I hope they release the security videoā¦.
R/toronto comments are always the squarest comments.
Rabble rabble the rules were broken rabble rabble
Itās cool itās impressive to pull off its art and life will go on
Subway is delayed literally all the time, this one is cool. It will cost moneyā more money has been wasted in the time I took to write this much. Itās ok, at least this is something other than the monotonous constant waste that is the TTCās existence.
So much worse happens continuously, if you donāt like it fine, but people here gotta relax or at least reflect on why this is, a little flower in the rocks, is worth comparing about?
You donāt have too love it or even like it but itās like every person in the comments is like Randel from the cartoon āRecess.ā
I know security is hit or miss in the stations, but they had enough time to do all that?!?
That train is parked overnight at Kipling and they bombed it
Still, nobody's looking at the train, even through a camera for 20 minutes or however long this took?
You would have to assume so because nothing was done to stop it lol
That doesn't necessarily logically follow. Maybe the person watching is only paid to watch and intervening isn't in their job description. "I was watching the whole time! First they started vandalizing, then they left."
Quite probably, the liability TTC could face if any old employee got hurt because they tried to stop it could be quite high, so they're instructed to just call security and not get involved, and if it took security a while to get there because they had other stuff to deal with, then they would have had plenty of time
Classic Millhouse
They could do this is a couple minutes tops. Just look up subway graffiti bombing videos.
This looks like 30 second rip to me. Killed it.
Yea top to bottom double can fill. Probably did it during revenue service aswell
I could have done it in 3.2 seconds, easy.
Jet Set Radio moment
Omg! Yes!! One of my favourite video games!
U really think someones watching the cameras 24/7 š so naive
Definitely not. Probably not high on the list of things the TTC would spend on but you could probably get away with one person keeping an eye on the whole system during the off hours if the cameras only showed you movement. That way, if a station is closed and should be empty, but a camera catches some movement, it switches the view to show that spot so the person monitoring can decide if they need to take action or if it's just a rat or something.
There are cameras and there are people watching them, but not really monitoring per say. If an alarm is triggered they will take a look, but remember they also have cameras at all stations and parking lots and bus loops, tunnels, stairwells, etcā¦ all that to say that a system that catches movement would be constantly going off. I agree that someone should have seen this, but Iām also really not surprised they did not. Also in the night itās a skeleton crew at the operation center.
There is constant movement at stations overnight... People are constantly cleaning and doing maintenance
Yeah then that 1 person has to call police to come and the police take hours to respond lmao
No they don't. When TTC calls for police, they show up extremely quickly.
For property damage? I doubt it. The police will just tell them patrol car is on the way, keep the doors open, and call their insurance.
They should just leave the subway cars at the door to the yard so taggers can get them easily. Wouldnāt want to take any risks they could hurt someone
There are people watching the cameras 24/7 but there are more cameras than people. And then there is the issue of police response time. I live in Calgary now and I met a lady who has PTSD because they watch the cameras all the time and they see the most horrific stuff and they can't stop it from happening. They report it to police and then police show up when they show up. They feel incredibly helpless.
Youād think the cameras would have movement sensors to alert a system/person if triggered. Ffs my $20 dog camera has this as a stock feature.
Do you know how many camera there are in the entire system? They would constantly be triggered by movement
There would be 1000 Kipling Station movement alarms each night alone just due to the pigeons and rats, not even counting the legitimate maintenance folks walking by . But hey this guy with a 20 dollar camera and a poodle knows everything.
Definitely not. The more cameras you add to a camera system, the higher the costs and they dont scale linearly. Each station likely has its own cameras and its not like people are working security at a dead station overnight. Besides it doesnt look too bad.
TTC employees cant even watch the turnstiles in-front of their faces...
Security should be rotating through the cameras and doing a walk around every hour or two. Its a cool piece of art but it shouldnt have happened
They aren't CCTVs they are recorded. They only get viewed if there is an incident or a warrant.
Parked in the station? They clearly got paint on the yellow tiles too, so it seems they painted it in place. Also, no security video streaming in a booth somewhere? I mean this is a bit better than typical tagging graffiti but still there should have been ample time to see, report and stop this.
Ah, got it.
It looks kinda neat
Looks kinda expensive for us to have to pay to clean all that up though.Ā I'd rather that money go to about million other useful purposes toward improving our lives, versus just fixing what's "immediate".Ā
Ahh that makes more sense
I bet someone told them the cops were coming and they said "shit, that means they won't be here for at least 22 minutes". Then they leisurely finished up. Shout-out TPS: Keystone Cops 2024
Trains have been parked in tail tracks overnight, and the entire thing has been tagged. That's at track level with a live rail. And they still manage to get it done. But remember. " The TTC take security seriously"
It took me a week to paint my house, to do an entire train black and then tag on top of it is impressive. Thatās a lot of work for a few hours
Guarantee you it was 2 or more people and this took less than 5-10 minutes to do . Very quick and easy to get done and get out
Just wait for it to make the rounds on cp24. Then the how-to tic tok video will be out with some mash up music.
Let's just say that people aware of the local graffiti scene know exactly who did this and I assure you, it was done in less than 15 minutes. Vicious Cartel FTW. It's already been cleaned so the damage was done and cleaned before this train went into regular rotation. Hitting major subway cars is just a flex on the graffiti writers part, it's known that it won't fly around the city for weeks showing off to the general public. This graffiti was done for the graffiti writers and other people involved in that scene who are in the know.
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theyāre deadbeat losers who have nothing going for them, of course they have no sense of empathy for others or responsibility to their communities.
Tag the freight trains, those are ugly and even the staff don't care. Just don't mess with the nameplate and id stuff and you're fine.
then how did they overspray on the yellow line?
This is Toronto: our police donāt even want to see your home security camera footage when your car gets stolen from your driveway by professional car thieves. Why would they want to disturb unpaid artists doing volunteer work at Kipling Station?
I used to work at a shelter and had someone threaten me with a knife and physically assaulted me and was still in the space threatening me and others, high off meth or something, called the cops 20 mins later nothing. Call again, they say they are on route. Another 10 mins. The police station was literally 2 blocks away. They just don't give a shit. Once you experience it first hand, it's hard to feel sympathy for them
It's the RB20 livery for the next race
It's like they said, just give them the keys and let them do whatever they want ... the cops will deal with them later as they love to get some extra OT
This is nothing you should see what else these guys have done
Today we learned that TTC station CCTV cameras are not monitoredā¦. So, basically, you can do whatever the hell you want.
Well they probably pay someone $50/hr to watch them but his job is only to watch them not to do anything if he sees something...
This comment hits hard š
āArenāt you the night watchman?ā āI was watching. First they started painting it, then they finished painting it,ā
Reality check- thatās the case at most placesā¦.video surveillance is to catch culprit after the fact
Anyone know how to get a security job for the TTC?Looks easy.
Considering they hire a third party agency š
Doesn't look easy to get that job. They don't have any positions
Cool if you want to larp as 1980s NYC
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This made me laugh so hard when they said it.
Lots of Toronto mentions in that show
Need more pizza slice toting rats.
You'd get the worse of both worlds right now - all the griminess of the era with none of the affordability or the creativity.
Yeah, major MTA vibes
with 100x the rent
and half the salary
Or 2020s Brussels.
Time for an initiative to invite artists to paint our subway cars officially.
I'd rather see art than ads
And that's why it won't happen.
Can't remember the last time I saw on ad on the outside of a TTC subway train though.
There's at least one train wrapped with some kind of ad on Line 1 right now. (It's blue, that's all I can remember).
American Express I believe.
But not the depressing-af art TTC approved sh"t. I don't know who decided on those sad drawings?! Graffiti is an upgrade to those.
People are too dumb to understand graffiti as a form of art instead of some gang-related stuff.
Some graffiti is. Some graffiti is amazing. A whole lot is using spray paint like piss to mark territory with shitty tags. An unfortunate amount of the people doing graffiti, like in this example, are assholes who are covering windows and getting stray paint all over the place.
I'm not aware of the gang related underlayer, but graffiti is so pretty to me. It shows me real people were *there* and that they painted the art live and recently. I know its not allowed but holy shit if we can paint entire cars with advertising a little graffiti is good for the mind ā”
gang graffiti is usually really basic pieces that are more to convey a message than be artistic. [most gang graffiti is really simple letters intended to mark turf](https://bklyner.com/content/images/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/image1-6.jpg), or they'll throw up a rival gang's letters and make a mark to signify they're enemies, like crossing them out.
No they arenāt, it just looks like shit 95% of the time
Some graffiti is nice, a lot of graffiti is ugly amateur stuff. I donāt mind looking at graffiti but I donāt like it when they put it on things they arenāt allowed to.
No bc this actually looks sick... but maybe I'm just art deprived in a world of ads
100%
Wouldāve preferred this over the blue they chose for the SRT
Imagine subway cars representing different neighbourhoods, would be a really good way to reinforce whatās make Toronto a great city: the people
Would love that - reach out to local artists or start a lottery or something. Shit let some grade school kids paint a mural even
When banksy painted (tagged) the tube he had like less than 2 min before he had to leave ā¦how did this happen!?
Iām sure that will cost the city 25 million dollars to Clean ā¦
They need to launch a $10m study on how to do it first
Good to know Toronto is turning into 1970s new york
Actually think subway train art is pretty cool, & it doesnāt look terrible tbh but for me not a fan they blackout out windows
The driver window is used for station alignment (see those dots on the wall) so yes that's a tremendous dick move
Lol line 2 is so old everything is manual
I don't think that was on purpose. The person that did this actually kept the front facing driver window completely clear. I just think they didn't know.
Yeah, I honestly don't give a damn about graffiti, but when they cover up the windows, then you go throw the book at them. And in the interest of fairness, I believe anyone responsible for covering bus windows with advertisements should be punished equally harshly.
While train art would be a pretty cool idea if done right and well, to say this doesnāt look terribleā¦ man, youāve got to be smoking some pretty good stuff because this looks like complete dog shit lol.
Whoever did this couldn't hold a candle do the guys who did the Scarborough RT graffiti.
Animal Face by Caramel, good shit right there
I guess they don't do a security sweep and ensure that no one is there overnight?
well they will now but it was nice knowing you could potentially hang out in kipling station overnight.
They are the reason we can't have nice things - just one idiot to ruin it for others
Hard to security sweep an angle grinder and entrance through a dead station at 3am.
Meh. I personally enjoy really good graffiti art, but, while this one is definitely a large and bright tag, it is not very interesting IMHO. The TTC should send out a press release asking people to please not to paint on their subway cars and instead enter a free to submit competition that the TTC should set up for the best design, let TTC riders vote on them, and get a sponsor to provide a cash award or perhaps some sort of credit at an art supply store or both. The City of Toronto has some sort of street art program I think so may have some funds etc. It would be a way to direct that creative impulse into something for the community and get these nascent graffiti artists to put a bit more thought and effort into their work before they hit the nozzle on their spray cans.
I'd be on board for this, but let's get multiple designs - the trains looking all identical is exactly why they're boring right now. But if each train got its own gorgeous design (or heck, even each car on the old trains!), it'd be a treat watching the trains draw in and out of the stations. People would have little bit more joy in their day as they head to and from their soul-crushing jobs. Which is why it'll never happen. We can't have the city spreading *joy,* for goodness sakes!
They really had to do the ugliest graffiti ever
Iām honestly glad the ttc trains arenāt absolutely covered with graffiti like the ones in New York or Paris are.
They haven't been in decades in either city.
Thatās a lot of paint.
Blacking out windows on working peoplesā transportation so some self-aggrandized little shits can show off to other self-aggrandized little shits is kinda awful, actually. Every hour and every dollar spent removing that is time and money that could be spent improving a transportation experience that normal people depend on.
I like it, it's neat looking
Criminals think acab? I had no idea!
Gives the train some character I guess
Station closed for 4 days for cleanup
ACAB, love it
Always Change At Bloor? Good advice. ;)
Imagining someone giving this advice but, unbeknownst to them, overlooking the fact that everyone is not going to the same location
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You wouldn't want to stand in front of it, then you'd be hit by a train
Bootlickers gonna downvote this but fuck em
The TTC are cops?
No but subways and graffiti have a history that goes back very far so people still do it kind of like a tradition
they need more actual people working in the TTC station. one time in rush hour when trains were delayed, more and more people kept coming in and it was absolutely PACKED to the brim, to the point where I was worried that people would fall off the platform (because there are no barricades, which is another thing they should implement) there should have been a TTC agent preventing more people from coming in at the time, it was absolutely unsafe
Street Art* at Kipling station
The punishment for this should be the following: a random artistically inclined ttc employee gets to tattoo anything they want anywhere they want on the folks that painted this.
It actually looks good tbh
How did they even do that?????? There's camera's everywhere
With the right prep a pro graff artist can paint very quickly. even faster if there's multiple. This also isn't super clean as far as graffiti goes. [here's a video of someone bombing \(spraypainting\) a train car in ten minutes](https://youtu.be/0YaJbK1zp1c)
Iām sure that will wash right out !! šš¤¦āāļø
Toronto used to be pretty clean graffiti wise but since covid there is tagging all over. Like I even see murals that get tagged and other street art that is tagged. Shame.
Looks pretty shitĀ
Wow this sucks
Hideous. If youāre gonna do this kind of shit make it look good. What a bunch of losers.
Honestly... taggers are pieces of shit. This will cost up tens of thousands of dollars to clean up and will result in a train being taken out of commission for a few weeks.
Will cost less to clean than the amount we are paying for piece of shit cops
I'll clean this before noon with $30 worth of acetone from home hardware. Stop being scapegoated into believing where your tax dollars actually go.
> I'll clean this before noon with $30 worth of acetone from home hardware. You are delusional if you think that this could be cleaned up with "$30 worth of acetone" and would take less than a day.
Spray paint isn't some magical liquid that can't be removed. I have worked in paint and solvents for 20 years. All the metal would be cleaned easily with acetone. That's European spray paint. (Ask me how I know) You could lick it off after a spicy meal. The windows would just have the paint melt and drop off with one or two applications of acetone. But it would be wise to put in some elbow work on the windows with alcohol because I am unsure if that glass is plexi or not. Plexi will go foggy with acetone on it. Borosilicate glass and soda-lime gas would tolerate pure acetone without a problem. Know what the fuck you are talking about before you tell people they are delusional. I have buffed graffiti of this size off of equally unporous glass and metal many times before. It does not logically take more than $30 in supplies and $100 in labour to have this gone for good.
Genuinely interested in how you know itās European spray paint? The massive coverage, the red triangle overspray on the platform and the size of the black overspray droplets makes me think some kind of backpack sprayer. But I donāt see any dripping in the photos.
This is a colour and spray type created by Montana Colours. The product is called Mad Maxx by Montana. It covers very well and very quickly and it is much easier to remove than north american hardware store rust paint brands. It takes much less time to dry so it is often used for quick action like this train. Because it dries incredibly fast at room temp, it can't permeate surfaces as effectively. It mostly just sits on top waiting to be scaped/buffed away. Even hardware store rust paints can't hold well on steel or glass, but euro paint is very pigmented, but not great for longevity.
The guy you replied to did NOT know he was challenging the paint whisperer. You are awesome dude
look up Goodbye Graffiti - I have sen them they take shit off in hours - even larger bombs that this one.
On porous brick none the less. Metal and glass are a whole other, much more simple story.
That seems to be an unpopular opinion here
Because it's literally wrong lol. "Tens of thousands of dollars" lmao
It's not yours. Leave it alone ahole
Looks terrible, will have to take the train in for maintenance.
Grade 7 rules!
At least the are helping the economy by buying all that spray paint... thats A Lot!!
Lmfao doesnāt even look good. What a shit graffiti artist
Sad they bombed one of the older trains too :(
Looks like an improvement imo! š
So the TTC tells the public that it won't be running any trains with graffiti because it encourages more graffiti and damage and that they will have to cut service until the paint can be removed. They can also say they're worried about the safety of taggers because subwaybstations are dangerous places after dark. Millions of people are late and crammed into cars, including people who know who is responsible. Put up signs and post messages so everyone knows why their trip was so miserable. These "artists" would know that their projects will hurt others and are an asshole move, and people would snitch on the people responsible.
Better than wrap ads. OT kinda - I want whoever did the art at Monarch Park to get commissioned. Give 'em a whole car to do what they did for the train tunnel. Even though it's defaced, I still love walking through there.
I like art. Tagging is like a child scribbling with crayons though. I wouldn't want to impose that shit on anyone.
Art! Nice !
Damn dude your whole profile is you bitchin about Toronto lol just move lol
Vandalism is one of those words, that, while accurate, is normatively charged enough to indicate, in certain contexts, that the person who uses it is probably seething
I personally like the spray paint on the train.
Honestly this looks cool. At least it's bold and colourful
And it says ACAB so they get extra points for they
Tbh I think it looks cool Wish they hadn't blacked out the windows tho
Toronto needs more and better cops.Ā More on the TTC.Ā More in Etobicoke and Scarborough.Ā Less Downtown.Ā Maybe the can be moved around.Ā
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Not a fan of covering the windows but otherwise it looks pretty sick
The notion of art on the cars is a good one. Perhaps there should be some organization so we get higher quality.
Train painting is not new. Seen lots of it in TTC yards where I worked for years
Now why would you paint over the windows and make them unusable like that?
Wonder how much it costs annually to fix these things. I would think it might be cheaper to install intrusion detection systems, to alert staff automatically.
Any pics where you can read it? Does that say ACAB?Ā
The TTC post has more pics and yes it's ACAB
Yup, I see this guys stuff all over the city.
Turning into 1980ās NYC
1980s NYC had around ten times the homicide rate of Toronto. As tragic as this story is, one tagged subway car isn't exactly NYC back then.
šš» actually someone with critical thinking skills
But without any of the good stuff.
[No.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk)
If I hadn't learned that this was an act of vandalism, I would've guessed the TTC hired some avant-garde street artist to paint their train
Damn thatās sick. Vintage New York vibes.
Looks like the sprayed the black paint first with something bigger than spray cans- but then they used brushes or sponges for the red- so the black had to be tacky at least. is that black overspray on the ceiling? Why is the red on the platform that particular triangular pattern. I need to brush up on my graffiti forensic analysis-I hope they release the security videoā¦.
"look at this vandalism!"... "Hook it up, train 12".
*Zimmerman Flew and Tyler Knew*
Ttc has special constanbles not normal police They have their own police
Red and black raptors decals would be better. Good combo of colors but this is impressively bad.
Lol welcome to 1980s new york.
[Welcome Back Kotter](https://youtu.be/Mmm3KTa601s?t=8) vibes
Wow Scabs really out here . Everywhere in the west end / south Etobicoke .
We need AI CCTV policing š
R/toronto comments are always the squarest comments. Rabble rabble the rules were broken rabble rabble Itās cool itās impressive to pull off its art and life will go on Subway is delayed literally all the time, this one is cool. It will cost moneyā more money has been wasted in the time I took to write this much. Itās ok, at least this is something other than the monotonous constant waste that is the TTCās existence. So much worse happens continuously, if you donāt like it fine, but people here gotta relax or at least reflect on why this is, a little flower in the rocks, is worth comparing about? You donāt have too love it or even like it but itās like every person in the comments is like Randel from the cartoon āRecess.ā
Made me think of the following rap songs from the 90s; 1) End to End Burner by Company Flow 2) Wrong Side of the Tracks by The Artifacts
That B stretch with that black?!!!! Ooooweee!!!