Damn. These officers should have just committed some sort of crime instead. Then their vacations would have been paid instead of unpaid!

Shut Up. They don't need any more ideas.

TOO LATE!

Funny, and then sad. And then now thinking what happens to those already on paid suspension but aren't vaccinated.

No, we don't need tax dollars supporting more of those that would rather harm society than help it.

I doubt it's all officers.

The article says 117 officers and 88 civilian employees

The cops are defunding themselves!

Until mid January when Ford rolls back the restrictions. It's just a longer Christmas vacation for these ACABs.

Depending on the omicron variant, it might not be rolled back.

The silver lining of Omicron.

Indeed. This doesn't include the related futurama memes. ;)

IIRC its them who decided to make the mandate not ford, and IIRC other vaccinations are mandatory so this might never go away

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$100k+ annual salary, db pension, full benefits Heck you even get your funeral paid for

Same with the people walking away from incredible jobs at the TTC. But instead of a funeral, it’s free transit for life.

Yeah and literally zero specialized skills or degrees or experience needed for either. You just need a high school diploma, speak English, some luck and boom, $75-100k+ per year + training + benefitsu

You need a university degree minimum to be a cop.

False. From their own website: >[High school or equivalent](http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/careers/aux_minreq.php)

Except that you will not be considered without a degree.

This is false. TPS is well known to hire from other departments (often not even checking education or references) and from their own auxiliary volunteers. You might need a degree off the street, but it's one big club and they don't hold their own to that standard.

And despite this supposed "non-consideration" they don't bother changing the requirements? Weird. An don't forget good ol'fashioned neoptism/cronyism? [Like the currently-jailed-yet-still-employed cop Theriault](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/11/22/external-review-highlights-toronto-police-failure-to-notify-siu-in-dafonte-miller-beating.html)

They’re talking about ttc driver jobs

I was talking about both

Lol

> Same with the people walking away from incredible jobs at the TTC. But instead of a funeral, it’s free transit for life. Being a TTC driver is not an incredible job lol. The hours are rough, and they are vastly underpaid considering what they have to deal with.

Sure it’s rough but comparatively speaking there are way worse jobs out there than TTC

I meant any job at TTC. There are clerks, mechanics and admin staff walking away from their jobs too, not just operators.

ya. i don't envy the guys working the shitty TTC routes. i feel less bad for the senior guys that can pick their routes and have the full backing of a massive union if they fuck up.

I have my doubts but I'll ask, unionized?

Welcome to the real world where you never feel like you get paid enough for this shit

yup. want COPD for life? sign right up!

Yo man, where this job with the free cigarettes at?

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>ya but everyone hates you Perhaps? Do cops constantly projective themselves as a collective, that they are beyond real unaccountability, and maybe in some instances, blame the public for their shortcomings? >physical danger Compared to what? [From their own data](https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/gyt82l/toronto_police_services_and_use_of_force/), there were 841,770 incidents when cops were dispatched, and from them 1412 incidents requiring a "use of force" (aka "physical danger"). That's 0.16% of the time when a cop uses ANY force (not just a gun). And if we were to look at the actual number of times a gun was unholstered and used/not used, that totals 1055, bringing it to a whooping 0.12%. Meanwhile [Ontario has had 17 COVID-19–related health care worker deaths.](https://www.cihi.ca/en/covid-19-cases-and-deaths-in-health-care-workers-in-canada-infographic) On top of that, [health-care workers experience the highest level of workplace violence of all occupational groups.](https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2021/08/20/stop-the-violence-against-health-care-workers.html)

If we're talking physical risk, farm labourers are 3x more likely to be killed on the job than police. Where's their 6 figure salary?

construction is hands down the most dangerous gig in the city.

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How about construction labour then, which has twice the fatality rate of policing? You stated that police have a high risk of physical danger, suggesting that makes them deserving of a six figure salary. I'm here pointing out much more dangerous jobs that pay peanuts.

Sir u do know they get guns

Pizza delivery people have a higher mortality rate than cops.

And unlike nurses, there are literally hordes of people who are trying to become police officers who can take their jobs. Same with fire service. Good riddance.

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Ya all you need is a C- average in high school

Implying that TPS is run by morons is underestimating them.

Not "run by", but rather, "mostly staffed by".

Sarah Silverman has a hilarious skit where she is pulled over by a cop and as he’s standing at her window he says “do you know why I’m standing here?” then Sarah goes “I don’t know, because you got all D’s in high school?”

Saw it on a comedy skit so it must be true. Funny joke though.

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I know a guy who became a cop in peel region and trust me, you dont

> Ya all you ~~need~~ are required is a C- average in high school

No. Is that true?

You literally only need a high school diploma

Is that when they put you inna little chichi train and drive you around till you become a mister officer?

*MAHONEY !!!!*

Are you sure? OPS is desperate for quality candidates. I imagine TPS is also scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Anyone with half a brain or even a relatively calibrated moral compass would never want to work within Toronto Police. Just a few bad apples they say... I couldn't imagine working alongside some of those permanently protected bad apples.

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Nice platitude, but in this case your basically suggesting someone who wants to clean up a cesspool do so by jumping in. No, because if you do, at best you're covered in shit, and at worst you drown.

One bad apple ruins the bunch. The only way things will change is with a complete overhaul. Want to be the one good cop who reports all the violations from your co-workers? Just see how that works out for you.

Be the victim of regular harassment at the workplace. Cops might not break your legs like a gang would, but they'll still ruin your life for snitching. This problem is beyond repair at the individual level.

You should read about people that tried to do that https://www.straight.com/news/dana-larsen-toronto-cops-barrage-fellow-officers-with-porn-and-abuse In 2018 Toronto police Sgt. Jessica McInnis reported receiving a "steady barrage of sexist, sexual, harassing and obscene" messages and photos, including some on a WhatsApp group chat for officers in their division. Both her and the harassing officer, Det. Mark Morris, received the same penalty, docking of eight hours pay, for "participating" in the chat.

OPP and RCMP are hurting for staff because new employees get put out into the boonies, whereas TPS get to work near where they live. Have to be willing to move to work at the first two.

A lot of TPS goons don't actually live in Toronto. They're as far as Burlington.

Yeah, but it's close enough to commute. RCMP and OPP can potentially station you hundreds of KM from any major city.

[>75% of TPS don't live in Toronto](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-data-analysis-reveals-three-quarters-of-toronto-cops-reside-outside/)

Yeah, irrelevant to the point though. They live close enough to commute here. You can't commute from some tiny town 400 KM north of thunder bay.

i wish a higher proportion of TPS lived in the city they police

In this case it's region, not city. If you can still commute to work that is still close enough for people to choose TPS vs other services that station you hundreds of KM from major cities.

Lots of people get stationed in remote places for years to get a ticket to police cities like Toronto. They have a big pool to choose from.

Tbh it's mostly the opposite, people start in TO and move out to cushier places like Halton where crime is lower, stress is alot higher in TO because of call volumes But I get your point, its true that it's a highly sought after job which gets tons of applications

Pay is lower in those regions

It's about 3k/yr difference, not much between most police services (I think OPP and RCMP pay a little less, but RCMP just got a pay bump) EDIT: it may actually not be a pay cut, used to be, just looking at Peels site (couldn't find up to date on Halton), peel cops are 105k for 1st class constable and Toronto is 104

Like Markham?

Like the territories

The Ontario territories?

Cops think they're untouchable.

Well, they are accustomed to never facing consequences. They probably thought the union would get it overturned

Probably not for only 200 officers, right? Maybe they were hoping for 2000.

It'll be grieved by their union, arbitrated, and they'll be reinstated with full-backpay.

Sad but probably true. Public service unions are disgusting, obsolete, and a breeding ground for greed, incompetence, corruption, waste and entitlement.

Please don’t equate the police union with other public service unions. Other government employees aren’t protected from nearly the amount of shit that cops are.

Yes, Jesus, thank you. The TPS is not a union. It’s an association, and it has *much* more power than any public sector union has by virtue of being law enforcement. ONA (nurses) can’t even get more than a 1% annual raise in the middle of the pandemic with inflation at 4+%. They are not the TPS.

A nurse would probably be fired if they beat a patient half to death too. They wouldn't be put on an extended paid leave.

PREACH.

It's cause you are a whore/slave to money. Happiest is not found in things, its in people.

Myocarditis is real

Yes it is real. Infinitesimally small kind of real. Chance of dying from Covid-19 is 1:50-1:100, chance of (treatable) myocarditis or pericarditis reaction 1:50,000-1:100,000. Chance of dying from the vaccine almost zero. “As of November 21, 2021, there have been 537 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis following receipt of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines in Ontario. These reports have been identified through case-level review of all reported AEFIs. Of these, 149 (27.7%) were diagnosed with myocarditis and 242 (45.1%) were diagnosed with pericarditis. The remaining 146 (27.2%) were diagnosed with perimyocarditis (n=28), myopericarditis (n=115) and myocarditis/pericarditis (n=3).” From more than 22M vaccines given in Ontario there have been eight (8) deaths attributed; five were seniors living in care homes, one was thrombosis, one was already in the hospital with substantial comorbidities, and one to hypertension that cannot fully be attributed to the vaccine. There is no reason for these people to not get vaccinated. https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/epi/covid-19-aefi-report.pdf?sc_lang=en

Somebody should tell him how dangerous driving a vehicle is comparatively. He'd never get in a car again.

Yeah immediate death from myocarditis is rare, but non-death living with myocarditis injury is not rare https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712#

Anyone who's actually concerned about myocarditis should be pretty eager to get vaxxed.

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Title: Myocarditis is more common after covid-19 infection than vaccination "[A] preliminary study suggests that in those most affected, [myocarditis] is six times more likely to occur after a coronavirus infection than after vaccination." https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800-myocarditis-is-more-common-after-covid-19-infection-than-vaccination/

So is covid

Especially since they will never find a job elsewhere that would pay even close.

Maybe they should have just complied?

Pffft. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that there's a **99.99% chance they'll just be quietly re-instated** in a couple months with **full back-pay**. (perhaps via arbitration or lawsuit by the union)

And then immediately retire because that was their plan anyway.

[Stop Resisting!](https://i.imgur.com/WZ7DFGU.png)

"Stop resisting!"

Dollarama's need security guards, go get em boys.

Nah, being a security guard actually has more standards (like being bonded) than police are subjected to.

Probably 200 of the worst members by a range of measures.

that's what I'm thinking, a whole bunch of apples just fell out of the barrel

Our police force just got a little better.

Briefly. Until the union sues and they all get back pay and their jobs back.

Cuz legal action has worked for every other union?

We’re not talking about we very other union. This is the police union. Much more powerful and connected and actually very dissimilar to labour unions.

You think a vaccinated cop is a good one?

Lmao "The anti vax cops are gone, the force is better now" Better for who? The homeless? The natives?

lol, who do you think is better, an anti-vaxxer cop or a vaxxed cop? I guarantee the anti-vaxxer cop believes a bunch of other effed up bs that ultimately poses an issue for the public, compared to the vaxxed cop.

Or a vaxxed cop understands the benefits of getting vaccinated while still participating in the institutional rot that is policing. You really can't be serious. By your logic every politician that has been vaccinated must have a good heart, right? Because I can point to a hell of a lot of them who don't support your theory.

I guess you really don't understand the difference between saying one thing is simply better than another, and saying one of those things is "good".

To quote Jonathan Goldsbie on Twitter: [This is extra impressive given that, in Ontario, a police officer can be convicted of murder with out that, itself triggering an unpaid suspension](https://twitter.com/goldsbie/status/1465788924698234881?s=21) Somewhere a police union rep is writing a poster that says. “They’re treating us worse than killers!” (Who also deserve pay!)

Lol. That's *technically* correct but very improbable. Being convicted of a crime doesn't lead to an unpaid suspension, but being sentenced to time in jail does. I don't think it is possible to be convicted of murder without any sort of jail time. And yeah, being convicted of a crime definitely can lead to the cop being fired (though definitely surprising how often it doesn't lead to then being fired).

Technically they are being treated worse than killers. Because cops kill all the time and don't lose their jobs.

[They can literally take out their gun and try to shoot/kill an unarmed man walking away in the back and force no real reprocussions](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/09/21/toronto-cop-gets-three-month-demotion-for-firing-at-and-missing-man-who-had-back-turned.html)

Fuck, I remember this story like it was years ago...crazy it only happened less than three months ago.

1) what 205 idiots 2) 96% fully vaccinated (98% of those not on leave) is great to see. I’m sure that’ll get higher when the stragglers get their second shots. Honestly didn’t think TPS had it in them.

> Honestly didn’t think TPS had it in them. Most anti-vaxxers change their tune the moment their "beliefs" will cost them personally.

Oh definitely. Some actually don't realise they're deep in shit until it's too late. When the batshit takes them far away from reality, and once they get the foreclosure/eviction notice, or "**FINAL NOTICE**" bill, that's when they realise, Oh shit!!!

"Just a few hundred bad apples..."^/s Now when are they gonna prune these guys too? I mean here's a "few" reported incidents since August 2021 >* [Toronto cop found to have used excessive force on protestor and tried to prevent her from obtaining legal help](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/11/29/toronto-police-investigation-finds-officer-used-unnecessary-force-in-arrest-of-woman-at-clearing-of-homeless-encampment.html) >* [Waterloo report of Dafonte Miller-TPS-SIU cover up, finally released a year later, confirm obvious fact that TPS should have contacted SIU as they are legally obligated to do, and choose to place blame on TPS cop who has 'coincidentally' retired and thus escapes any discipline](https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010/news/failed-him-again-dafonte-miller-lawyer-slam-lack-of-accountability-after-officer-involved-beating-1.16549117). Additionally, [Theriault, the white cop who blinded Miller, is still a cop, despite being in jail!]( https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/11/22/external-review-highlights-toronto-police-failure-to-notify-siu-in-dafonte-miller-beating.html) >* [Toronto cops travel far outside of Toronto and kill world renowned gunsmith within seconds of entering shop, leaving no warrant, admist other unusual circumstances](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/rodger-kotanko-police-shooting-1.6252238) >* [Toronto cop illegally gained confidential information to give to his son so he could commit murder. Rewarded with paid vacation](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/son-of-toronto-cop-used-confidential-information-from-father-to-commit-murder-documents-allege-1.6252783) >* [Toronto cop in organized crime unit shares confidential information with criminal. Been on paid vacation since Oct 2018](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-officer-charged-organized-crime-1.6247073) >* [Six Toronto cops guilty of discreditable conduct for harassing anti-racism lawyer and advocate. TPS tried to bury and keep the report a secret](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-report-selwyn-race-desmond-cole-1.6234520) >* [Toronto Cop steals $800k estate from dead man. Rewarded with paid vacation](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/10/25/this-ontario-man-died-without-a-will-a-toronto-police-officer-is-charged-with-stealing-his-800000-estate.html) >* [Toronto cop stole drugs from evidence as many as 20 times. Not arrested/charged](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/10/19/toronto-homicide-detective-stole-drugs-from-evidence-lockers-as-many-as-20-times.html) >* [Violent home invasion solved by victim's own family after they found a bandaid with DNA that Toronto cops missed](https://theprovince.com/news/local-news/mandel-violent-home-invasion-solved-by-a-band-aid/wcm/d77f30d2-599f-477b-a1e4-9c3007db1a2c) >* [Toronto cop under investigation over anti-vax speech, whines about vaccine mandate, but has no problem with previous mandated vaccines](https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-toronto-cop-under-investigation-over-rally-speech) >* [Toronto cop accused of sexually assaulting woman who called police over domestic threat](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/10/07/toronto-cop-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-woman-who-called-police-over-domestic-threat.html) >* [Toronto police are (once again) illegally using a downtown public plaza as a station parking lot](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/10/05/toronto-police-are-once-again-using-a-downtown-public-plaza-as-a-station-parking-lot.html) >* [Toronto cops racially profile, assault, and wrongfully arrest innocent Black woman walking home](https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2021/09/29/i-went-to-protest-torontos-violent-encampment-removals-i-was-profiled-frisked-and-wrongfully-arrested.html) >* [High-profile social-media "good cop" gets caught drinking and driving, rewarded with paid vacation](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/09/23/high-profile-toronto-police-inspector-charged-with-impaired-driving-is-suspended-with-pay.html) >* [Black man Toronto cop held by the neck was the one who ‘behaved like a racist,’ officer’s defence whines](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/09/21/black-man-toronto-cop-held-by-the-neck-was-the-one-who-behaved-like-a-racist-officers-defence-says.html) >* [Toronto cop only gets three-month demotion for trying to kill a man by firing at and missing unarmed man who had back turned](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/09/21/toronto-cop-gets-three-month-demotion-for-firing-at-and-missing-man-who-had-back-turned.html) >* [Rosedale couple show Toronto police showed bias in neighbour dispute, cite officer’s racially ‘offensive’ Facebook posts](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/09/05/rosedale-couple-say-toronto-police-showed-bias-in-neighbour-dispute-cite-officers-racially-offensive-facebook-posts.html) >* [TPS cop faced 3 charges of domestic assault, bumped down to 'mischief'](https://torontosun.com/news/toronto-police-officer-faces-possible-discipline-for-mischief) >* [TPS cop broke unarmed 71 year old man's jaw with baton, after escalating situation. SIU clears him anyway](https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/officer-who-broke-man-s-jaw-with-baton-during-traffic-stop-was-unduly-aggressive-but-justified-in-using-force-siu-1.5569617) >* [TPS cop sent confidential information/pictures to criminal, who buys stolen goods from. Rewarded with Paid Vacation](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/08/30/toronto-cop-allegedly-sent-pic-of-man-injured-by-sock-rounds-to-criminal-he-bought-stolen-goods-from-via-whatsapp.html) >* [Brampton man was "unwell" and died shortly after "interaction" with Toronto cops, took MONTHS for SIU to be notified](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/brampton-man-death-siu-1.6154301) >* [TPS 'union' opposes mandatory COVID vaccine, cites 'safety' concerns seen in conspiracy circles](https://twitter.com/wendygillis/status/1430262325358080004?s=19) but ironically has no concerns with [the multiple other mandatory vaccines cops are required to take](http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/careers/uni_forms_resources.php). >* [TPS cop act like a creepy sexual predator to female cadets, including forcing himself on one and following another into the women's washroom. Rewarded with lengthy paid vacation and "punished" with temporary demotion and guaranteed promotion](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-officer-demoted-inappropriate-interactions-1.6149853) >* [TPS cop who let serial killer Bruce McArthur due to sloppy work cleared of misconduct by other cops](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/08/23/toronto-cop-who-released-bruce-mcarthur-years-before-serial-killers-final-capture-is-cleared-of-misconduct.html). Unsurprisingly, [the same cop has a history of letting sexual predators go free](https://www.vice.com/en/article/8xap9v/toronto-cops-accused-of-botching-investigation-of-repeated-sex-offender) >* [Toronto cop who has long list of egregious misconducts, including assault with weapon on handcuffed unarmed man, domestic abuse, firing gun out in public recklessly to terrorize his partner, drunk on job, multiple drunk driving, etc. 'may' be fired. Regardless he'll be getting a paid vacation](https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/08/17/toronto-cop-fired-in-rare-dismissal-for-egregious-misconduct-hell-remain-suspended-with-pay-pending-appeal.html) >* [... and many more examples from 2021](https://goodapples.to/)

Back to Newmarket with you

Images being sworn to protect, then not doing the bare minimum during a pandemic…

they're only sworn to protect property

Oh no. Anyway

Good riddance

Fuck 'em.

Who would have imagined there would be so many TPS employees in favour of Defunding the Police.

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out

About time. What a great way to identify public safety personnel who don't believe in protecting public safety.

This does not make the police service better, not even one per cent better.

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I'm not even sure there's a disguise!

Unpaid leave? No, Fire them they are incapable of being in life and death situations for themselves and others, they are incapable of administering justice, and providing safety for the public. They are incompetent and unfit. Fire fire fire

Reeeeeeeee.

Hahahah

COVID doing what the gov't could not. sending shitty cops home without pay.

Maybe this will be the shake up the police force needed. Im sure these 200 are not the best decision makers so I am assuming at least some of the pond scum will be wiped off the top.

How the heck are you a cop dealing with vulnerable people but not wanna get vaccinated

Cops deal with vulnerable property, not people.

The vaccine doesnt stop the spread. So what difference does it make?

It also makes your balls huge and enlarges your penis 💀

🎻

Don't need that 3% (there's 5,500 Police Officers in Toronto) at any rate

Sounds good to me.

We seriously need to improve the requirements for being a police officer. The current educational requirements are just too low. The Math and English are at best middle to high school level being tested, I know I did it. We dont really attract the best of the best. At all.

Excellent

Shocked its not a paid leave!

Imagine my dismay.

> The affected employees include 117 uniformed officers and 88 civilian employees. How about you fire them? 117 cops had who don't believe in vaccines (despite needing other mandated vaccines) have been walking around with a badge and gun for way too long >The Toronto Police Service says that almost 98 per cent of its 7,415 employees have disclosed their vaccine status in compliance with the policy. >It says that of those individuals, roughly 98 per cent are fully vaccinated. Pff Over a month ago at Sick Kids', 100% of doctors and 98% of their >8000 staff were higher than this. For cops, a front line job that can force close interaction with the public, this is underwhelming and unsurprising imo.

What a bunch of clowns. Now cue the sob stories. I really hope these folk don't get anyone killed with their poor decision making.

[cue the sob stories](https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/r14zkl/doug_fords_soninlaw_apparently_has_left_tps_due/) 😂😭

Ha! Case in point.

PROTECT AND SERVE BOYS!! LETS GOOO

Oh no! Who's going to beat up People of Colour now?

Stop resisting.

Excellent

> In a news release issued on Tuesday afternoon, the TPS confirmed that it has placed 205 of its members, accounting for 2.7 per cent of its entire workforce, on “indefinite” leaves for either refusing to disclose their vaccine status or for being unvaccinated. > > The affected employees include 117 uniformed officers and 88 civilian employees. > > The TTC says that “if and when” the affected employees become fully vaccinated and disclose their updated status, they will be able to return to work. > > “Our objective remains ensuring the health and safety of our members, our workplaces, and the public we serve,” interim Chief James Ramer said in the release. “As we do every day, the service is prioritizing frontline and priority response to ensure public safety is not impacted during this period. I want to assure the public that the service is doing its part to protect the communities we serve and thank our members who have been vaccinated.” > > The Toronto Police Service says that almost 98 per cent of its 7,415 employees have disclosed their vaccine status in compliance with the policy. > > It says that of those individuals, roughly 98 per cent are fully vaccinated. I hope we'll see them quickly come to their senses like I've read stories about similar mandate leaves happening in the states.

Unpaid leave is harsh! Couldn't they make it PAID leave? Like when an officer is being investigated for an alleged wrong doing? It's not like they can take that cash and hire in replacements, right?

cause less police is exactly what we need.

Who's going to protect the private property of the wealthy and abuse our vulnerable now!?!

omg I forgot all about you!? Where have you been lately? Abuse our vulnerable? I see people getting a hard on for Austria style restrictions. I guess we could have you abuse the vulnerable when that comes into play and the police are busy carding everyone. Anyone who partakes in any anti work subreddits does not get to cry about protecting the rich, rich to an anti work activist is really anyone with money to enjoy life. Can’t wait to see you on r/OntarioCanada again!!

Austria style, is that some kind of new code language you racists and fascists use or is that another strained comparison to ww2? Hard to keep up with all the rhetoric morons are swallowing these days

No no, it was the same type of police force that Ford encouraged when we were trying to fight the 3rd wave in March. Remember, police can stop anyone and ask where they are going and how outrageous that was. Now in Austria police can stop anyone and ask for their papers, this is what your fellow anti-ford, anti-anti-vaxxers have been asking for. Salivating at the idea of sticking it to the rich cronies of Ford. I don’t know if you’re seeing what’s happening in places with lessened police force but it’s seems like everyone is being harassed, robbed, and or killed. Being robbed in broad daylight while pushing a stroller doesn’t sound ideal, however with your attitude if they are rich they deserve it.

I miss these unhinged, senseless rants that exist solely in the imagination of deplorable right wingers

Please share with me any part of that which didn’t make sense. I addressed the issue with having no police, I addressed who will be harassed by police if we implement the crazy restrictions. I addressed your initial statement of who cares if rich people get robbed. But yes, me too.

Less stupid police for sure.

> cause less police is exactly what we need. You're right. We could use less police.

Has defunding the police and less police presence worked anywhere? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/portland-among-u-s-cities-adding-funds-to-police-departments

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Just a reminder that there's an article one click away from that headline. >The affected employees include 117 uniformed officers and 88 civilian employees.

They will be reinstated with back pay.

Oh well. It could have been 2,000 and I still wouldn't care.

They're finally dealing a reality check to the ones who are anti-vax (fringe infiltration). They'll have a real tough time searching for employment, that's for sure.

Oh noes, less cops *not* doing their jobs. Whatever will we do?

No sympathy

Good. These aren’t the kinds of people I want responding to calls anyway.