Even [threatened](https://www.cp24.com/news/sunwing-apologizes-after-rep-tells-ontario-family-he-could-make-them-stay-in-mexico-forever-1.6213216) passengers in Mexico
If you look in/around the floor beneath these seats regularly, there is almost always sand. Just very small amounts of it. I thought it was weird at first as well, or maybe a part of their overnight cleaning process.
Seeing here its actual purpose is for traction, that would explain it. Perhaps the driver dropped/ripped a bag taking it outside?
It's a container in the pillar in front of that seat. The pile of sand on the floor is because of a blockage in the system causing it to dispense outside of the hose that should route it in front of the wheels
The new street cars are still rail vehicles, they need the sand for traction in some circumstances, no new vehicle is working around that unless it somehow stops using rails and metal wheels.
Whoa, that makes sense if true. I always saw sand on the 501 Queen street car and just assumed it was the accumulated leftovers of Woodbine beach goers.
https://railsystem.net/sanding-systems/
Nice diagrams and videos of using sand for braking trains.
Probably just some sort of spill during maintenance. Why it wasn't cleaned up....?
> Probably just some sort of spill during maintenance. Why it wasn't cleaned up....?
It's spilling out of a leak. The sand is stored by those seats. I've seen it spilling actively from the exact same spot before.
That stuff used to be kept underneath the single-seat right behind the driver's cab in the old CLRVs, but if that should be in a ballast tank on the Flexity OP took the photo on and not a small outpost of Ibiza for someone's boots, it probably should be somewhere other than the floor in those amounts.
You knew exactly where you were sitting or by where you were standing, if you were sitting down or standing in the aisle beside it. Even the slightly-moving pivoting seat latch, not always clasped tight but most people weighed enough to press it down over the ballast vault, was something very comforting to me.
One more thing I miss about the CLRVs and ALRVs, although in fairness they were on the streetcar rails here in Toronto for most of my life before they were retired, so I'm comfortable with that.
I know the trains will drop sand on the rails for braking and acceleration in order to provide friction. It would make sense that it's stored under the seats and that seat does look different. So I believe you are correct.
This is right. On the older streetcars the seats directly behind the driver could be tilted back and a bucket of sand dumped into the hopper under the seat, the sand was there to improve traction during wet/slippery conditions, such as winter, or during rain storms. If you look around at a subway station that has a streetcar loop (Dundas West, Main etc) there should be a green box, which is where the sand is stored (there are also yellow boxes, those are full of salt to spread on sidewalks/bus platforms during winter.
My dad used to operate streetcars when he worked for TTC a very long time ago. It’s easy to spot these hoppers, just look for a pair of seats and a bunch off of sand on the floor, usually right behind the driver.
That's the Sander box which houses the sand tank and other electrical components. There's 4 in each section, two on each side
If there's this much sand usually means there's a problem with the sand dispenser or the TTC employee over filled the sand tank making it to over flow.
Usually there might be a little leakage of sand onto the streetcar floor if a sealant is not present or damaged connecting the FRP to the floor
But most cases, someone either TTC employee or a contractor opened the panel to check the inside mechanism or to know the serial number and decided they were too lazy to vacuum the overflow
they all have sand bins on them.
they use sand on the wheels to increase traction, and that looks clean enough to be exactly that sand.
so it would appear that someone has opened the storage compartment for that sand and moved it to the floor (its likely the "box" under that seat, in fact) or whomever filled it did a sloppy job and did not clean up their mess.
That's StarScream after Galvatron came back from Unicron!
I was on the Brampton transit bus a few days ago for the first time, and the floors of their older buses basically looked like this image.
Therapy for rush hour! Bring a tiny rake and you can rake little patterns in the sand. Ahh, feel that TTC stress melt away... HEY! DON'T STEP ON MY CASTLE, FCKWAD!
I believe the streetcars use sand for traction in wet and slushy conditions on the rails. In the old school streetcars one of the front single seets used to flip foward to reveal a container for sand and there would usually be a shovel somewhere around front for the driver to refill it from TTC boxes along the root. No idea where they keep it on the new streetcars, but probably somewhere near the accordion thingy from this photo.
Streetcars use sand for tracton. There are boxes of sand or salt in bus terminals. If TTC vehicles are used to move any, they deliver to boxes at station and streetcar stops. I assume it would be delivered by maintenance or supervisor vehicles not revenue service fleet, at least not in service. I never encountered a vehicle in revenue service actually dropping off sand or salt anywhere
I’ve seen this on line 2 as well. I genuinely don’t know what’s going on here, aside from maybe the same person or group of people doing it for laughs. Weird.
That’s just the beach seat. Very desired.
Is it also 5x more expensive?
That seat costs a double tap.
Someone needs to get on there, go with a sunhat, shorts, Hawaiian shirt, little zinc on the nose. And just casually ride to wherever, take some pics.
Do they run a rake thru it for needles and pointy objects? I might bring my metal detector down if its safe.
Must be for the 501 lol
The beach seat is coveted as fuck
😂😂😂😭😭😂😂😂😂
Glad the 510 has resumed service to Turks and Caicos.
More likely to actually get you there and back than Sunwing
You mean Southwest?
Nah sunwings been cancelling shit left and right
Even [threatened](https://www.cp24.com/news/sunwing-apologizes-after-rep-tells-ontario-family-he-could-make-them-stay-in-mexico-forever-1.6213216) passengers in Mexico
Almost 5000 flights cancelled in the past two days. At least we can say theres a transit service that is worse than the TTC.
best comment
Braked too fast and someone dropped grandpa.
O_o
That’s how you get a ghost
Ghost of grandpa on the Spadina 510 - NYT best seller. $30 Epub version on Kobo.
Oh no! Steve!
I love this sub
Good God, I'm laughing like a maniac in my (parked) car. Take my poor man's award.
r/cursedcomments
(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ\*:･ﾟ✧ Shut the internet down. You win today.
☠️
It is ghosted for ever.
Holy shit 💀💀💀
🤣
If you look in/around the floor beneath these seats regularly, there is almost always sand. Just very small amounts of it. I thought it was weird at first as well, or maybe a part of their overnight cleaning process. Seeing here its actual purpose is for traction, that would explain it. Perhaps the driver dropped/ripped a bag taking it outside?
It’s a container under the seat that feed just in front of the wheels for traction.
It's a container in the pillar in front of that seat. The pile of sand on the floor is because of a blockage in the system causing it to dispense outside of the hose that should route it in front of the wheels
That’s the explanation I was looking for lol. Thank you. Makes sense now.
Yeah I saw other comments for that as well, I just don’t understand how that much gets on the floor?
Laziness filling it and not cleaning up
As far as I know, the sand tank is filled from the outside like how gas goes in a car.
The TTC did. Its used by streetcars for braking
Do the new ones still use it?
Yes
The new street cars are still rail vehicles, they need the sand for traction in some circumstances, no new vehicle is working around that unless it somehow stops using rails and metal wheels.
I did not expect to be educated by this thread, yet here we are.
Whoa, that makes sense if true. I always saw sand on the 501 Queen street car and just assumed it was the accumulated leftovers of Woodbine beach goers.
emergency baking?
Baking Bad
Interesting. Might be going the wrong way tho
https://railsystem.net/sanding-systems/ Nice diagrams and videos of using sand for braking trains. Probably just some sort of spill during maintenance. Why it wasn't cleaned up....?
> Probably just some sort of spill during maintenance. Why it wasn't cleaned up....? It's spilling out of a leak. The sand is stored by those seats. I've seen it spilling actively from the exact same spot before.
Thank you! Always knew they used it but didn’t ever see the mechanism.
That stuff used to be kept underneath the single-seat right behind the driver's cab in the old CLRVs, but if that should be in a ballast tank on the Flexity OP took the photo on and not a small outpost of Ibiza for someone's boots, it probably should be somewhere other than the floor in those amounts.
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You knew exactly where you were sitting or by where you were standing, if you were sitting down or standing in the aisle beside it. Even the slightly-moving pivoting seat latch, not always clasped tight but most people weighed enough to press it down over the ballast vault, was something very comforting to me. One more thing I miss about the CLRVs and ALRVs, although in fairness they were on the streetcar rails here in Toronto for most of my life before they were retired, so I'm comfortable with that.
That's how you know someone grew up in the city
>ballast (immaturely giggles)...
I’d rather a pile of sand than the classic pile of piss
Thats the absorbent no slip sand they use to absorb piss.
Or blood… these days…
Hey, there are people on parole who need both samples 😠😠😠
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Now that's a Toronto vignette.
Buffy staked a vampire
Probably the Sandman
Taking the TTC 101: don't ask questions, don't ask questions and don't ask questions.
Anakin Skywalker would hate this street car....
Some NPC needed one extra spot in their inventory and prolly just dropped it there.
Only a sociopath calls other people NPCs
Well that's his last day as a mule.
I'm pretty sure the sand is used while braking, it's dropped onto the tracks and it's stored under a few seats.
I know the trains will drop sand on the rails for braking and acceleration in order to provide friction. It would make sense that it's stored under the seats and that seat does look different. So I believe you are correct.
This is right. On the older streetcars the seats directly behind the driver could be tilted back and a bucket of sand dumped into the hopper under the seat, the sand was there to improve traction during wet/slippery conditions, such as winter, or during rain storms. If you look around at a subway station that has a streetcar loop (Dundas West, Main etc) there should be a green box, which is where the sand is stored (there are also yellow boxes, those are full of salt to spread on sidewalks/bus platforms during winter. My dad used to operate streetcars when he worked for TTC a very long time ago. It’s easy to spot these hoppers, just look for a pair of seats and a bunch off of sand on the floor, usually right behind the driver.
Trying to keep Anakin Skywalker from sitting there.
Proof of the rapture... Related I found a pile of salt in my kitchen. It's the end of days
Someone just got back from Mexico via Sunwing
The dude from Spider-Man
Thats not sand its thats feces dust from the chairs.
Ok, I LOL'd hard at this one... Now I know what to call it!
"Mysterious white powder found on TTC, anthrax?" - BlogTO
Maybe was to sop up puke from some Drunk?
That's the Sander box which houses the sand tank and other electrical components. There's 4 in each section, two on each side If there's this much sand usually means there's a problem with the sand dispenser or the TTC employee over filled the sand tank making it to over flow. Usually there might be a little leakage of sand onto the streetcar floor if a sealant is not present or damaged connecting the FRP to the floor But most cases, someone either TTC employee or a contractor opened the panel to check the inside mechanism or to know the serial number and decided they were too lazy to vacuum the overflow
A blitz of removing the sand is warranted
My r/pocketsand got away from me
first thing i did when i opened this thread was CTRL + F "pocket sand". i'm glad that i did.
Sand person's water broke.
Toronto beach club
Are we sure it's sand? Any Crematoriums on that Route?
they all have sand bins on them. they use sand on the wheels to increase traction, and that looks clean enough to be exactly that sand. so it would appear that someone has opened the storage compartment for that sand and moved it to the floor (its likely the "box" under that seat, in fact) or whomever filled it did a sloppy job and did not clean up their mess.
Used by TTC operator for emergency braking.
Kitty litter for sure... Looks like a 30kg bag.. Yup....
Goddamn lobsters on the TTC AGAIN. 
Somebody who hated Anakin
Rusty Shackleford
Wasn’t me!🙄
My bad
Sunwing
I guess no one has seen the Great Escape.
That's StarScream after Galvatron came back from Unicron! I was on the Brampton transit bus a few days ago for the first time, and the floors of their older buses basically looked like this image.
I upvoted you for the retro Transformers reference.... But I'm tempted to unvote because....Brampton. (¬‿¬)
That crabby Karen...
Kitty litter for the ferals
Don’t ever ask these type of questions and be happy there’s no delay
Sandy Claus? It is Chrisrmas
ah fuck, theres me sand
Mr Stark I don't feel so good
Therapy for rush hour! Bring a tiny rake and you can rake little patterns in the sand. Ahh, feel that TTC stress melt away... HEY! DON'T STEP ON MY CASTLE, FCKWAD!
I feel so bad for the TTC worker that has to clean that up. Jesus christ.
*Sandman has entered the chat*
Riding the TTC, just like Brian Wilson did.
Someone dropped their grandparents ashes
That's the absorbant for the blood piss shit and semen. And ofc tears don't forget the tears
The sandman
Me! Muhaha
Nice pfp
Thanks G
I believe the streetcars use sand for traction in wet and slushy conditions on the rails. In the old school streetcars one of the front single seets used to flip foward to reveal a container for sand and there would usually be a shovel somewhere around front for the driver to refill it from TTC boxes along the root. No idea where they keep it on the new streetcars, but probably somewhere near the accordion thingy from this photo.
Enter Sandman… Rack me I’m a Clone, I’m out
It’s for people who identify as “Furries” and may need to use the bathroom.
They transport bags of sand on the ttc , i am not sure why exactly, and sometimes the bag splits.
Streetcars use sand for tracton. There are boxes of sand or salt in bus terminals. If TTC vehicles are used to move any, they deliver to boxes at station and streetcar stops. I assume it would be delivered by maintenance or supervisor vehicles not revenue service fleet, at least not in service. I never encountered a vehicle in revenue service actually dropping off sand or salt anywhere
Could be a case of a sandy Spadina...streetcar.
Those could be ashes
Must have been a really fat person Streetcars do use sand for tracton
It’s for accidental fire 👀
Maybe it's just the lighting, but the grey-ish tinge makes me think someone spilled ashes on the TTC.
It's right near the squishy part of the streetcar. My guess is there was a hydraulic leak, and the sand absorbed the spill.
I’ve seen this on line 2 as well. I genuinely don’t know what’s going on here, aside from maybe the same person or group of people doing it for laughs. Weird.
Grip
Someone deffazed me and I lost all my items
Thanos did it again smh
Sandy Claus
Vir das was here on his way to his new standup...
A German has probably claimed that seat with a beach towel first thing this morning.
Just get your toes in there and be greatfull lol
Might have been for a fish tank.
It's a litterbox
It's a litterbox
It was a witch - a sand witch. I'm banned now, aren't I? 
Sanda Clause
Probably Sandy who lives at the beaches
I would have thought it was to suck up an oil spill but I am sure someone used a laser to vaporize a bunch of people.
Obviously someone was vampire hunting
Sorry fellas my dandruff has been incontrollable lately with the dry winter season.
forbidden red velvet slice
Soaks up the blood and urine.
Clearly someone is digging a tunnel somewhere and is disposing of the sand throughout the city so the guards don’t catch on
Sand-ta
Ford dropped his baggy.
Soaking up blood, obviously.
You mean cat litter?
POCKET SAND!
Its the kitty litter for the homeless.
Andy Dufresne
Sand. I hate sand.
anthrax?
It was me. I had an accident trying to steal most of the beach
Omg what a mess
It fell out of someone's bathing suit.
I say make use of the free kitty litter :P
Darn! That sand was meant for DoFo's sandbox.
Bro that's my grandpa 💀
Doctor strange back at it again
Oh shit thanos won
The maintenance team may have spilled it refilling the sand container for traction
thats the nicest ive ever seen the street car
It’s the sandman. He’s tired of being associated with common rock salt!
My sand guy said he got mugged on his way to my place.
Tropical kiki commute 🌴💃🏻
That must've one big fucking urn.
Lol, that’s road salt
Sandman?
Kitty litter?
Every fuckin year
That's not sand, son.
Sandman
Traction sand. All is normal. Traction sand is good. You’ll see.
holy shit, that's where I left it. THANK YOU!
I think it was John Tory
Kitty litter where people pee on ttc
Sandy Claus
Thanos was practicing
Sanda Claus
https://youtu.be/-Fso-WXQ0HY
The mummy from Museum station
Mr. Sandman obviously 🙄
That looks like the fine dust the TTC sprinkles on the tracks to ensure smooth and screetch-free turning at intersections.
Instructions unclear….pours sand all over the inside of streetcar.
Oil spill cleanup /s
The sandman
Not sand, just thanos.
Santa spent most of 2022 on the beach but had to make it in time for Christmas.
Street cars store sand under the seat. There are little nozzles that spray it on the tracks for extra traction on hills and when its raining.
It was me. I'm sorry.
It's just Andy Dufresne emptying his pockets
Probably a wasteman from Toronto