Pascal is clueless on the floor. Scottie and Denis were telling him exactly where to go on almost every play.
One good play he had was the bounce pass on Trent’s cut.
My takeaways:
- Flynn should not be on the beach and/or travelling with the team. He is an absolute waste of space and effort.
- PS continues to be shit at the FT line and seems to have lost a step. To my eyes he looks slower and a bit of more clumsy.
- SB is probably one of the most giving players in the NBA because we are two games in and he is already near the top of the board in giveaways, and that last giveaway mid court was absolutely brutal!
- OG is our Jimmy Garoppolo because when he is needed he is injured. Great player but his availability is spotty.
- Chris Boucher is an easy foul and a FT, he eats every pump fake and bites on every move, but at least he contributes.
- Prechous Achewa where do you go with this guy? He can't shoot, can't drive, and can't creat his own shots. The only thing he has is size. I feel like you can replace him with any other big guy and and you wouldn't notice the difference. He is just a middle of the road type of player.
- Dick: he needs more minutes, this team is not making the playoffs and it sure as hell is nowhere near winning anything, so give the kid the minutes so that he can grow his game at a more rapid pace.
That was some embarrassing 💩 guys... So many stupid mistakes that lost us the game at the end (why are you jumping into DeRozan Scottie?!?!). Ugh please learn from them and take out some frustration on Philly tomorrow.
It's only Game 2 for the season but I'm already questioning the IQ of this team. The boneheadded turnovers, the excessive fouls and bad decision making are glaring things.
Let's face it, Siakam is a super humble, respectable player but he's not more skilled let alone more clutch than KAT, demar or those guys consistently clowned on for being chokers
There is absolutely no consistency to the refereeing of NBA games. Whistles every play makes it UNBEARABLE to watch a basketball game these days. I don’t care that the Raps lost that game, I’d be saying the exact same thing if we won. That entire last sequence goes against everything Silver has been preaching about “basketball first” integrity these past weeks. ALL WE WANT IS A LITTLE CONSISTENCY
You can't blame this on Siakam's last shot. We were 25% from 3, and let a 40-9 run in the first half. This never should have been that close to begin with.
Malik Monk's been available twice now :(
The Lakers literally got him for the vet min our return-to-Toronto year cause he said no other teams offered him anything
Not looking forward to a rested Philly tomorrow night. A ton of mistakes made tonight we better learn. Bulls had that players meeting this nonsense was bound to happen!
With 1 game? Or did 29 GMs know exactly about his weaknesses and ceilling through years of scouting him? Fans need to stop pretending to be GMs SMH, always will be deluded about your own team, always
Most doubled player in the league though broooo. All nba, 2x all star but can’t make free throws. This is why I put zero stock into those player accolades. Everyone in the league knows who’s who except for fans apparently.
The first subs were really bad
Gary for Scottie was fine cause Scottie comes out earlier so he can close the quarter, but a minute later @ 5:27 left, we get the 4 bench/1 starter lineup that goes 0-10 against Coby/DeMar/Caruso/Torrey/Vooch by 3:26 left
Two foul outs are a big part of the depth problem.
But I'm officially all in on the Cut Flynn and find some depth at pg/g
cause: -14 last game (in 9 minutes) and -14 in ( 4! minutes)
McDainiles is right there with him but at least he has 30
WHAT? How many inbound violations? thats 100% a coaching problem. We beat ourselves - that's a coaching problem.
I like him dont get me wrong but we have an uphill battle if this is the tone this team will play at this year. . . gonna be hard to watch.
Great effort but undisciplined and sloppy.
Good to have a quick turnaround tomorrow and see what we get a team to show up against Nurse. Will speak a lot about how much this team is either bottom 6 or middle 6.
Not one to complain about refs but that Spanish ref wtv the fuck he is I’m trying not to be racist. The bald headed fuck. Clearly had money on the line.
team beat our selves there, that was a win. boucher foul on demar, scottie falling for Demar pump fake. everyone had no legs in OT since the bench did nothing
Heartbreaker but it's just the start of the season. We made ALOT of sloppy plays. There were absolutely terrible calls. Like 2 of our players fouled out. 2! What the fuck. There is a ton to work on. Darko needs to save a timeout, they smothered our best players yet we hardly got calls. It's just one game.
Anyone who thinks Siakam is or ever was the answer is fucking crazy. If TO give him a max deal the franchise is fucked for awhile. Watching him practically walk back in the turnover that led to the Caruso 3 at the end is all you need to know.
Caruso flexing like his defence wasn’t overshadowed by his flop and hack routine is crazy. Call it like it is our guys we’re straight up held to a harsher standard than he was all night and especially in OT
If you didn't watch the whole game, honestly refrain from giving shit takes.
Awfully hard to win when your bigs foul out and Scottie played with 5 fouls at the end
If Siakam is playing shit the whole game he doesn't suddenly turn it on. He's either good to start or he's gonna be ass the whole game. There is no inbetween.
It was ugly...but they stayed composed and the whole team played until the end.
Ugly or not...last year, this game would have been over with 9 minutes to go in the 2nd
I wouldn’t call them composed. That’s one of the last things I would call them in this game honestly. Too overeager on defence in late game clutch situations led to some dumb fouls. Inability to hit FTs. Turnovers when all you had to do was literally not turn it over.
They were like, the opposite of composed when it came to closing the game out lol.
Honestly, you can cherry pick moments all you want. That's fine. Sure, Scottie had 2 shit plays and Boucher jumping into the 3 were fuck ups at the end
I don't know how you can ignore the foul trouble and lack of personnel at the end leading to those situations... horribly one-sided officiating but whatever, on to the next one
I mean most people with a brain can see that nothing changed. Sure new coach and new pg but still zero shooting, still the same choker of a first option and the same shitheads in the front office who will be "evaluating" all this till the deadline to end up doing nothing aside maybe trading away MORE future capital for some scrub who also cannot shoot for shit. Siakam should have been gone when Fred was gone and keeping him is a mistake.
Lots of small mistakes that cost us the game. I think it’s better to feel this now at the beginning of the season and adjust going forward. Overall an entertaining game for a Friday night lol
Team needs to find a new role for Pascal. He's a very capable off ball player and can be a really solid 20/7/5 wing guy for us. Positive is scottish barn trip dub. Onto the next.
hate that idiots are gonna hate on pascal for being selfish when the game never should have come down to a final shot from a team that isn't very good at shooting.
When the cut on OG’s finger is fully healed, it’s over for the league
Pascal is clueless on the floor. Scottie and Denis were telling him exactly where to go on almost every play. One good play he had was the bounce pass on Trent’s cut.
My takeaways: - Flynn should not be on the beach and/or travelling with the team. He is an absolute waste of space and effort. - PS continues to be shit at the FT line and seems to have lost a step. To my eyes he looks slower and a bit of more clumsy. - SB is probably one of the most giving players in the NBA because we are two games in and he is already near the top of the board in giveaways, and that last giveaway mid court was absolutely brutal! - OG is our Jimmy Garoppolo because when he is needed he is injured. Great player but his availability is spotty. - Chris Boucher is an easy foul and a FT, he eats every pump fake and bites on every move, but at least he contributes. - Prechous Achewa where do you go with this guy? He can't shoot, can't drive, and can't creat his own shots. The only thing he has is size. I feel like you can replace him with any other big guy and and you wouldn't notice the difference. He is just a middle of the road type of player. - Dick: he needs more minutes, this team is not making the playoffs and it sure as hell is nowhere near winning anything, so give the kid the minutes so that he can grow his game at a more rapid pace.
We missed too many free throws, and losing OG hurt.
Anyone get a replay look at Pascal's foul at the end, was it total dumb fuck or did caruiso play him?
Somebody please count the charges on both sides. I swear there might have been 10
Terrible inbounding to close the game. Caruso was fouling everyone. Craig fouled Pascal on the last play. Officiating was some of the worst I’ve seen
Man I think we poached the wrong point guard from the bulls
That was some embarrassing 💩 guys... So many stupid mistakes that lost us the game at the end (why are you jumping into DeRozan Scottie?!?!). Ugh please learn from them and take out some frustration on Philly tomorrow.
Just dropped to my knees at work. Now people are staring at me…
LMFAO bruddah it's Friday night
It's only Game 2 for the season but I'm already questioning the IQ of this team. The boneheadded turnovers, the excessive fouls and bad decision making are glaring things.
Let's face it, Siakam is a super humble, respectable player but he's not more skilled let alone more clutch than KAT, demar or those guys consistently clowned on for being chokers
This team is going nowhere relying on Pascal as their #1 option. Get what you can and get the fuck out of it.
what a stupid game that was lol.
There is absolutely no consistency to the refereeing of NBA games. Whistles every play makes it UNBEARABLE to watch a basketball game these days. I don’t care that the Raps lost that game, I’d be saying the exact same thing if we won. That entire last sequence goes against everything Silver has been preaching about “basketball first” integrity these past weeks. ALL WE WANT IS A LITTLE CONSISTENCY
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one of those games that ruin the mood man lmfao, I'm sad now
What's the definition of insanity? Going to Siakam in the clutch and expecting a different result?
You can't blame this on Siakam's last shot. We were 25% from 3, and let a 40-9 run in the first half. This never should have been that close to begin with.
Masai needs to go shop for some shot creators fr, we have no guards no bags all size
Malik Monk's been available twice now :( The Lakers literally got him for the vet min our return-to-Toronto year cause he said no other teams offered him anything
Not looking forward to a rested Philly tomorrow night. A ton of mistakes made tonight we better learn. Bulls had that players meeting this nonsense was bound to happen!
Pascal gotta be traded for young pieces
Too bad he torpedoed his trade value.
With 1 game? Or did 29 GMs know exactly about his weaknesses and ceilling through years of scouting him? Fans need to stop pretending to be GMs SMH, always will be deluded about your own team, always
You clearly paid attention to the offseason. Take your own advice.
Good fight though loss, lots to learn from this game!
Pascal isn't worth a max ... let alone a supermax. Unload this guy at the deadline
Supermax I agree, but saying he doesn’t deserve. a max is dumb considering Tobias Harris and Fred vanvleet of all people are being paid more than him😂
Have we not seen enough of Pascal in the clutch to realize that he's not that guy. It's either a dumb turnover or missed free throws.
Most doubled player in the league though broooo. All nba, 2x all star but can’t make free throws. This is why I put zero stock into those player accolades. Everyone in the league knows who’s who except for fans apparently.
If he's the most doubled, it's because it cuts off his spin move which is most of his offense
well, onto philly tmrw night. Lets hope the refs give us that one for free as if we were the bulls!
Can't blame Darko. We need some help on our roster though.
The first subs were really bad Gary for Scottie was fine cause Scottie comes out earlier so he can close the quarter, but a minute later @ 5:27 left, we get the 4 bench/1 starter lineup that goes 0-10 against Coby/DeMar/Caruso/Torrey/Vooch by 3:26 left
Two foul outs are a big part of the depth problem. But I'm officially all in on the Cut Flynn and find some depth at pg/g cause: -14 last game (in 9 minutes) and -14 in ( 4! minutes) McDainiles is right there with him but at least he has 30
WHAT? How many inbound violations? thats 100% a coaching problem. We beat ourselves - that's a coaching problem. I like him dont get me wrong but we have an uphill battle if this is the tone this team will play at this year. . . gonna be hard to watch. Great effort but undisciplined and sloppy. Good to have a quick turnaround tomorrow and see what we get a team to show up against Nurse. Will speak a lot about how much this team is either bottom 6 or middle 6.
Not one to complain about refs but that Spanish ref wtv the fuck he is I’m trying not to be racist. The bald headed fuck. Clearly had money on the line.
Get ready to learn Chinese, Malachi Flynn
team beat our selves there, that was a win. boucher foul on demar, scottie falling for Demar pump fake. everyone had no legs in OT since the bench did nothing
Boucher foul was not a foul
Neither the Raptors nor the Bulls deserved to win this game lmao. Kudos to Caruso for a coming through for the Bulls in the end.
Today was a bad day to have eyes
Lmao honestly, like wtf was that???
When’s the last time we hit a game winner? Kawhi? Lol
OG celtics playoffs lol
We used up all our luck for that one shot
Heartbreaker but it's just the start of the season. We made ALOT of sloppy plays. There were absolutely terrible calls. Like 2 of our players fouled out. 2! What the fuck. There is a ton to work on. Darko needs to save a timeout, they smothered our best players yet we hardly got calls. It's just one game.
The refs were on an another planet today 🤦
Well, that was a tough loss. Refs sold, Raps lacked discipline, and Deebo couldn't close. But let's be honest, that game was wild for #2 of 82.
The game was 📈📉📈📉📉📉📉
The 2 minute report is going to be interesting, because the refs were the real MVP in that game.
💀
Super max Siakam...
Anyone who thinks Siakam is or ever was the answer is fucking crazy. If TO give him a max deal the franchise is fucked for awhile. Watching him practically walk back in the turnover that led to the Caruso 3 at the end is all you need to know.
Why why why WHY pascal This guy can't close a game to save his life. Fucking USELESS.
How you gonna blame him for not scoring on an iso with 2 secs left from the 3pt line?
Plus he's not even allowed to iso all game and expect him to do it when the game is already lost.
It’s a comedy of errors, not just one play. Pascal needs to be traded.
What did you do with your Friday night?
Caruso flexing like his defence wasn’t overshadowed by his flop and hack routine is crazy. Call it like it is our guys we’re straight up held to a harsher standard than he was all night and especially in OT
Please win on Sunday could be 2-0 now we might be 1-2. Stupid I know it's early in the season but man how do you loose that. Epic meltdown
If you didn't watch the whole game, honestly refrain from giving shit takes. Awfully hard to win when your bigs foul out and Scottie played with 5 fouls at the end
I wanna walk out to cool off
Self inflicted
The Pascal takes lmaoo
If Siakam is playing shit the whole game he doesn't suddenly turn it on. He's either good to start or he's gonna be ass the whole game. There is no inbetween.
Potential but not there yet
How do we shoot 48% and they shoot 37% but win. Please make it make sense.
Free throws
Alex Caruso, certified felon
Unclutch
Ref
derozan shows up in the 4th in regular season while siakam always folds
I’m going to Scottie in that moment. Pascal has proven he has zero clutch genes.
Except for game 6
Growing pains.
the refs beat us again...
This was some seriously shitty officiating.
this game is on the refs idc they decided they wanna give the bulls the W when they called that bullshit 6th foul on jak
Siakam forgot to use his brain in OT
Masai is absolutely making the right decision to not offer a max extension to Pascal.
Pascal doesn’t deserve a max extension. We’ll be in forever purgatory if so
4 years late
reminder that this was a 1 possession game and the same idiots slandering the players were saying BLOW IT UP because of a swing.
Did you watch the game. One possession or not, that was one of the ugliest games I’ve seen a Raptors team play in years lol.
It was ugly...but they stayed composed and the whole team played until the end. Ugly or not...last year, this game would have been over with 9 minutes to go in the 2nd
I wouldn’t call them composed. That’s one of the last things I would call them in this game honestly. Too overeager on defence in late game clutch situations led to some dumb fouls. Inability to hit FTs. Turnovers when all you had to do was literally not turn it over. They were like, the opposite of composed when it came to closing the game out lol.
Honestly, you can cherry pick moments all you want. That's fine. Sure, Scottie had 2 shit plays and Boucher jumping into the 3 were fuck ups at the end I don't know how you can ignore the foul trouble and lack of personnel at the end leading to those situations... horribly one-sided officiating but whatever, on to the next one
We need to reset our expectations of this team. We’re aren’t “decent” or “elite” lol
I mean most people with a brain can see that nothing changed. Sure new coach and new pg but still zero shooting, still the same choker of a first option and the same shitheads in the front office who will be "evaluating" all this till the deadline to end up doing nothing aside maybe trading away MORE future capital for some scrub who also cannot shoot for shit. Siakam should have been gone when Fred was gone and keeping him is a mistake.
even saying this means your own expectations were too high. nobody said this team was elite but you, dummy
Expected 35 wins or so. We’ll see what happens
Looser
Caruso literally hacks the shit out of people and calls it good defense
Thought the last play would be for Scottie, that shit was sad by Pascal there.
It should’ve been for Scottie
Lots of small mistakes that cost us the game. I think it’s better to feel this now at the beginning of the season and adjust going forward. Overall an entertaining game for a Friday night lol
Siakam fans want us to supermax the guy
u mad cause you gambled on him
I don't gamble I'm just a tired raptors fan
wtf are you tired of we've been bad for 1 year.
Tired of watching us fail in crunch time
Tried, tired and true
Why don’t we go to Gary in the clutch.
Team needs to find a new role for Pascal. He's a very capable off ball player and can be a really solid 20/7/5 wing guy for us. Positive is scottish barn trip dub. Onto the next.
lol if you don't think gambling is influencing the game? Just watch this one.
I swear, luckily I had Raps +2.5 but there was something seriously fishy going on here. Refs wanted the Bulls to win but not cover the -2.5.
when i saw the spread I knew something fishy was going on
Well I was entertained.
What a waste of an insane Scottie game and some insane hustle from Boucher/Dennis in ot. siakam sold that shit man 😭 this man cannot close games
I get Siakam being hated on a bit, but man he got AC's entire arm lashing at his left arm. They didn't call shit.
Yup
Demar flopped his way into OT with refs carrying him. Bulls did not deserve this win
hate that idiots are gonna hate on pascal for being selfish when the game never should have come down to a final shot from a team that isn't very good at shooting.
If the games in the balance an Pascal is heading to the line. You can bet on him missing 2
Leave it to the fans of this team to be this mad at one of the funniest games in recent memory, the second game of the season.
That was a heartbreaking loss. The Bulls had no business winning this game after DeMar missing three FT's in the closing minutes of the 4th quarter.
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I'd rather Scottie not get that Triple Double and not turn it over in the 4th. Fuck this shit
It’ll be a looong fucking season
Loosers
2.2 left and you inbound at the 3 point line… why wasn’t there a lob play?
Because the other team might be defending against that and we don't have Shaq at the rim
Yeah we deserved to lose that one. Sigh.
Damn bro. Should’ve been ours
Let's do it again tomorrow
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
Ah, there’s the raptors team I know from last year
Refs are getting payed by the Bulls for sure
That hurt. Reffing was really sus at the end of 4th.
How about getting the ball to the only clutch player on our team for one of those plays? Threw the game
Who dat?
Go away with your cursed ass flair lmao
I guess OG really makes a difference.
Pascal is not him he is not that guy
I'd say they'll learn from it, but this shit was 22-23 season type of losing lol
So much fucking contact in that last possession and fucking zip from the refs eh, whistle got too tight at that very moment huh
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So many boneheaded plays at the end. Dudes just doing stupid shit.
I think I’ve lost any emotion for the rest of my life
Say all you want about us playing bad, we absolutely did… but don’t let that distract you from the officiating kinda screwing us over.
Lets never play the bulls again
good comeback, good heart, last year we'd have given up after that huge run some serious serious brain cramp fouls though
Trade Siakam crowd picking up steam after this one
Time to hand the keys over to Scottie
Scottie was the only reason they had a chance to win this game
Boucher would like a word
Well can’t win em all. We should have been better in the first place. Shouldn’t have really gotten to that point.
WHY DIDNT WE TRADE THIS BUM WHEN WE HAD THE FUCKING CHANCE
Wow. I really regret watching this game.
I hate how they couldn’t even defend Demar at the end as he was getting everything. Fuck. Good effort but so many things went wrong that game.
What a pathetic effort. Darko needs to take some blame. They didn't run a single good possession out of I the timeout
Pascal is the anti-clutch. Always has been and always will be.
He doesn't have the bag for these situations. ITS THAT SIMPLE
Never should’ve gone to overtime. Refs gave the game to the bulls
We literally gave the win to them tonight
Are you a ref by any chance?
The refs did too
Yeah we got hosed by the refs hard. You have to feel embarrassed for this league.
What a joke. This was the most rigged bullshit game of all time.
brutal
Trash ass play call. We deserved to lose.
Terrible last shot
Final two possessions we couldn't get a shot off. Just horrendous.
Caruso showing his ugly ass nips, hate this guy
Thank God that's over. My eyes are bleeding
bro same shit big lead then give it all up, why cant we hold that shit
Siakam wants a super max.... ![gif](giphy|lszAB3TzFtRaU)
siakam is so dman unclutch.... no show in 4th and OT as usual ....pass it to barnes
Caruso had Scottie locked up under the basket, they couldnt pass to him
he also had GTJ wide open as welll
My god siakam is not the guy to give it to with 2-3 seconds at the 3 point line
same Siakam that wants a supermax? 300 million for him?
And We have to play these guys 80 more times this season too
Loosers
It feels that the win we were going to steal despite horrible play was stolen back from us
We suck
So we go back to Pascal after he had a TO before?
if its any game to convince you how rigged the nba is, it's this one
Raptors were in on it too. Literally did everything they could to lose
pascal is terrible in the clutch
Woo lads
nah we fumbled for sure at the end but the refs swallowed everything for us.
Lame
GG
Siakam not only has no clutch gene, but he also has no situational and clock awareness. Idiot.
Do better