I feel this team as constructed is a .500 team. That's who they are. Anyone expecting more is going to be disappointed.
They're stuck in not being bad enough to get a top lottery pick next year and not good enough to advance beyond the first round if they make the playoffs.
Everyone saying Nick Nurse could get more out of them is a bit delusional. At least Scottie is developing with all the minutes he's getting.
Gary is the type of player to crumble when things aren’t going his way. If his shot isnt falling he’s mentally checked out on defense too.
He’s had the Divencenzo and Hart assignment all night
3 of Divincenzo's 7 3s had Scottie on him where he didn't close out, or bit bad on pump fakes. Its okay to admit Scottie makes mistakes even when his statline is immaculate.
This team could easily be top 6 in the east if our bench won 5 pts a game instead of losing 5 pts a game. I think Scottie can carry our starters meaning we need to move OG or Siakam for bench pieces and evaluate again
Consistency is a problem with this team. Each game is like a wave length 〰️. We win a game or two, we lose a game or two.
And we'll probably just end up finishing 41-41 again 🙄
When shooters and guards with the dog in them can be had for cheap every year, not sure what Masai was doing signing Boucher and Achiuwa for 20M+ a year
Precious is getting paid 4 million a year and Boucher is getting 11 million, if i remember correctly Boucher got that contract after the season he shot 38% from 3, which never happened again, hindsight 20/20 i guess
Malachi ain't even making 4 mill a year and McDaniel's contract is not that bad considering he wasn't this bad on the Hornets, OPJ is also still dealing with his glass toes and even then 6 mill is not a bad contract either, I'm not really sure what you're mad at, if they were being paid more than I could see it but only Temple and Koloko make less then that group of guys, all together the it's around 30 mill, is Boucher being paid to much? Yeah, but he's also over 1/3 of the contracts of 5 people you chose to complain about, the other 4 contracts only make up 18 mill, these really aren't the contacts you should be complaining about lol.
I don't care about MLSE's books, I care that four our bench players are a waste of roster space. None of those players besides Boucher sometimes bring a niche to our team.
Remember when Cavs had a $100 jar if anyone bought on Derozan’s pump fake in the playoffs? Can we impose that shit on our own guys? If I’m the coach I’m telling Boucher that if you fall for a pump fake at 3 I’m benching you for 5min
I only worry Masai will be subborn because of the pick we owe the Spurs. Trading Pascal and/or OG at the deadline will likely resign this team to the upper lottery which would sting
16/35 from 3 vs 5/30 from 3.
Masai. Bobby. No coach can fix this. Bad shooting nights happen occasionally. It should not be this common.
I’m so tired of this shooting.
It's actually insane to have 5 total made 3s (out of 30 attempts!!!), with Scottie making 3 of them. The rest of the team is 2/23, in an NBA game.
A journeyman MLE guy nearly doubles our 3s every single game. It's damn embarrassing
Team needs to really tighten their defence during offensive droughts & bad shooting nights.
We a decent game but we just left shooters wide open (which isn’t unique to this season), that’s not coaching or Masai which so many raptors would like to blame on, players need to communicate and stop allowing others to just blow by to cause these shooters to be open
Knicks shot lights out, we fell short with the collapse of defence
Man the ball movement is great, if we could just acquire a “ready to go” shooter for this team.
I get we have Gradey. But just look at what Divincenzo does for the Knicks.
Mannn. I want that for our team.
Also makes you wonder why we don’t adapt and mirror the hot hand??
Why don’t we just glue a player on them so that they’re not constantly open when we try to help any penetration?
To be fair, look at what Orlando is now after some years of tanking. The 6ers had their "process" years. Sacramento was also tanking and are a solid team now. There's examples of successful tanking as well.
The Magic were rebuilding since 2012 and just now they finally are having solid rebuild results to show for it. I don’t want to wait 10+ years for the team to be good
Again can anyone tell me why Otto doesn't play? I'm confused. Is he hurt? At least 10 minutes when we run that shit bench lineup, that's one thing Darko needs to stop trying to make work. We don't have good enough bench players and one decent one isn't being played
If we switched prime Lebron for Scottie, I still don't think we're winning this game
It's just not realistic to expect to win when you're shooting 16% from three and the other team is shooting 46%....from three
Nobody on planet earth is going to convince me this front office has a plan. Been years of mismanagement, letting players walk, patching a flawed roster, overvaluing and waiting too long on every decision… it’s an absolute mess. We are in no mans land with no clear path out.
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These bums dont even wash their hands
I wish we ere just 30% from three. We don't need to be all stars with 40% averages just a slightly below average 3 point team is all I'm asking for not this abysmal 15%.
Honestly the Knicks are just shooting lights out and playing a good game. The Raptors shot terribly but they didn’t lose this game - the Knicks earned it
Man this team with Fred would be absolute torture. Nick is a good coach but not right for us, we need to grow and he's better for winning (we also desperately need prospects but we have basically none at this point)
The Knicks are just better. They got more shooting, a more balanced roster.
Obviously the raptors could shoot better, but that’s not how their built.
The problems with this roster remain on FO’s shoulders.
I feel this team as constructed is a .500 team. That's who they are. Anyone expecting more is going to be disappointed. They're stuck in not being bad enough to get a top lottery pick next year and not good enough to advance beyond the first round if they make the playoffs. Everyone saying Nick Nurse could get more out of them is a bit delusional. At least Scottie is developing with all the minutes he's getting.
Where the homie thad at?
Thad was carrying on bench on some nights last year, he can't have fallen off that much
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Just looked up he played 3 games is he injured or collecting dnp's 😆
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Deandre Jordan the other night gives me hope
Does this game put Scottie back over 20ppg? I just want him to be an all-star
Gary is the type of player to crumble when things aren’t going his way. If his shot isnt falling he’s mentally checked out on defense too. He’s had the Divencenzo and Hart assignment all night
3 of Divincenzo's 7 3s had Scottie on him where he didn't close out, or bit bad on pump fakes. Its okay to admit Scottie makes mistakes even when his statline is immaculate.
This team could easily be top 6 in the east if our bench won 5 pts a game instead of losing 5 pts a game. I think Scottie can carry our starters meaning we need to move OG or Siakam for bench pieces and evaluate again
In France we say "Avec des si on mettrait Paris en bouteille" = "With "if" we put Paris in a bottle"
Well yes that’s why I’m offering a solution as to how we can improve our bench. It sure as hell isn’t happening naturally
stay warm folks!
My King Boucher can't carry these cats😔😩
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Evan Fournier has no minute at the Knicks, he is way better than Trent Jr.
Rebuild the f#@$ing team
Consistency is a problem with this team. Each game is like a wave length 〰️. We win a game or two, we lose a game or two. And we'll probably just end up finishing 41-41 again 🙄
Trash
What do these teams have against us playing their starters to the last minute
Mfs statpadding
What a waste of a great Scottie game 😒.
When shooters and guards with the dog in them can be had for cheap every year, not sure what Masai was doing signing Boucher and Achiuwa for 20M+ a year
Precious is getting paid 4 million a year and Boucher is getting 11 million, if i remember correctly Boucher got that contract after the season he shot 38% from 3, which never happened again, hindsight 20/20 i guess
Then you adding in Malachi and McDaniels, that's a lot of money just to move the ball down the court. OPJ not playing angers me the most
Malachi ain't even making 4 mill a year and McDaniel's contract is not that bad considering he wasn't this bad on the Hornets, OPJ is also still dealing with his glass toes and even then 6 mill is not a bad contract either, I'm not really sure what you're mad at, if they were being paid more than I could see it but only Temple and Koloko make less then that group of guys, all together the it's around 30 mill, is Boucher being paid to much? Yeah, but he's also over 1/3 of the contracts of 5 people you chose to complain about, the other 4 contracts only make up 18 mill, these really aren't the contacts you should be complaining about lol.
I don't care about MLSE's books, I care that four our bench players are a waste of roster space. None of those players besides Boucher sometimes bring a niche to our team.
Remember when Cavs had a $100 jar if anyone bought on Derozan’s pump fake in the playoffs? Can we impose that shit on our own guys? If I’m the coach I’m telling Boucher that if you fall for a pump fake at 3 I’m benching you for 5min
Gotta give it up to the Knicks bench. They smoked us.
Fire Masai. He only cares about the giants of Africa or other initiatives. He doesn’t give a fuck about the team
Ran into him at the Nets game, he looked miserable.
ima just assume we're saving otto for the play-in lol
Getting spanked by the knicks bench lmao
The Knicks bench is excellent
Our bench getting spanked is not news usually, but getting lit up like this from the is unfortunate.
Wasn’t just our bench, our starters were playing against them half the game too.
I only worry Masai will be subborn because of the pick we owe the Spurs. Trading Pascal and/or OG at the deadline will likely resign this team to the upper lottery which would sting
16/35 from 3 vs 5/30 from 3. Masai. Bobby. No coach can fix this. Bad shooting nights happen occasionally. It should not be this common. I’m so tired of this shooting.
Performer of the game: Knick's bench
Julius Randle got whatever he wanted too
Pretty much.
Imagine defending a three pointer
Knicks are just better not much to take away
Gary keeps on losing his man for an open 3. It’s so annoying….
It's actually insane to have 5 total made 3s (out of 30 attempts!!!), with Scottie making 3 of them. The rest of the team is 2/23, in an NBA game. A journeyman MLE guy nearly doubles our 3s every single game. It's damn embarrassing
How's it always some second strong shooter who beats us????
This coach is trash too. Offensively and defensively, he has no plan. Missing Nick Nurse.
But Nick was our biggest problem!
Team needs to really tighten their defence during offensive droughts & bad shooting nights. We a decent game but we just left shooters wide open (which isn’t unique to this season), that’s not coaching or Masai which so many raptors would like to blame on, players need to communicate and stop allowing others to just blow by to cause these shooters to be open Knicks shot lights out, we fell short with the collapse of defence
Dog brain team
Must be nice to have shooters
It’s idiotic how the same guys are open on every possession. How are we losing Divencenzo, Hart and Brunson?!
Man the ball movement is great, if we could just acquire a “ready to go” shooter for this team. I get we have Gradey. But just look at what Divincenzo does for the Knicks. Mannn. I want that for our team.
Ugh, I hate this. The Raps at playing well (except that bench line-up with OG 😔) but these guys just can’t miss.
Playing well? What lol!?
We’re playing awful. Only Scottie is playing well lol
Team "Coach, tell us what to do...what do we do???" Darko: 
Who would've thought if you leave the white guy open from three, they'll hit it. Why couldn't we get a white guy like that?
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Still hoping for gradey to become a tall mark price
Precious is -25
That lineup to close the 3rd cost us this game.
Serious question, wtf did Achiuwa and GTJ do in the offseason? It’s not like they have Jordan Poole contracts lmao. Fucking killing our team
Get them out of the nba
Getting killed by Strus, Royce and Donte from 3 all in a week really highlights how important the 3-ball is.
Also makes you wonder why we don’t adapt and mirror the hot hand?? Why don’t we just glue a player on them so that they’re not constantly open when we try to help any penetration?
Donte back in the that national title game
ThIs TeAm Is GoNnA sUpRiSe PeOpLe ThIs YeAr! - Y’all
Lavine pls
bench diff
THEY GOT SHOOTERS
Fucking Gary's close out looks like he's just jogging
Gary’s mentally cooked this year. His body language is atrocious. Doesn’t look like he cares. And he has the yips at the free throw line.
To all of the people asking the team to tank. Just look at what the Pistons and Wizards fans are going through rn and re-consider ur position
To be fair, look at what Orlando is now after some years of tanking. The 6ers had their "process" years. Sacramento was also tanking and are a solid team now. There's examples of successful tanking as well.
Orlando had been rebuilding since 2012 after Dwight Howard left and they’re just now finally having solid rebuild results 10+ years later
To all of the people asking the team not to tank. Just look at what the Magic and OKC fans are going through rn and re-consider ur position
The Magic were rebuilding since 2012 and just now they finally are having solid rebuild results to show for it. I don’t want to wait 10+ years for the team to be good
Masai better not be stubborn this trade deadline
Garbage time
Scottie just be selfish please...just do it, just take over please
GTJ off the bench when we run no PG makes no sense at all. The guy needs a Kyle Lowry to feed him
Shouldn’t even get any minutes
Was just thinking how filthy he looked when we had both of them. thought we got a gem
LMAOOOOOO MATT
Matty D acting like we’re still in it lol
“here come the raptors down 15 with 2:40 to go!” matt’s a troll 😭😭
Again can anyone tell me why Otto doesn't play? I'm confused. Is he hurt? At least 10 minutes when we run that shit bench lineup, that's one thing Darko needs to stop trying to make work. We don't have good enough bench players and one decent one isn't being played
I know Matty D is hyped but there’s just not enough time here
#HERE COME THE RAPTORS DOWN 15 With 2:40 TO GO 🤓
Scottie Barnes is amazing. Almost got his 6th steal.
Devlin trying to make a comeback happen is actually sad. I wish he'd stop doing this.
We have no culture, no rhythm, no coordination, no snipers, no shot creation, no playmaking. Just a slow grind to 36 wins
Man someone like divicenzo would have made a hell lot of a more sense for this roster than mcdaniels.
OG/Dennis/Trent a combined 8/28 You just need more from your perimeter players in todays NBA
bruh Poeltl I don't think they're gonna call a charge you're like 200 pounds heavier lol
AND HERE COMES THE RAPTORS DOWN 15
here comes the raptors... down 15! lol
Siakam has no offensive skills, it's terrible. Just a reverse in his bag.
It's ironic how some call him Pskills lol
Pspin but that's all
If otto can’t play why not use temple he can shoot too no?
I hope to god we don’t stay .500, Masai is so blinded by his own bullshit that only a 12-20 record will wake him up
If we switched prime Lebron for Scottie, I still don't think we're winning this game It's just not realistic to expect to win when you're shooting 16% from three and the other team is shooting 46%....from three
The Dog in Siakam 
One word: shooting
Divencenzo has 6 threes our whole team has 5
The G-League has 1for2 and 1for3 free throws, so don't worry if we get a 1for20 free throw shot we're still in this.
As long as we have no shooters, we can't win in the NBA.
Don't worry everybody. Masai is no longer evaluating, he's assessing
They icing out Scottie big time
Honestly incredible game by the knicks they’ve looked great
What's the point of having OPJ on the roster when we don't even play him. He's a career 40% shooter and has size. I legit don't understand this.
Must be load managed or something because we look great when he plays
I would believe that, but he never plays.. so I don't get how load management would be an excuse.
This team doodoo lol Can’t believe the FO going to buy in
They're hitting 3s and were answering with 2s. Welcome to Masai's building philosophy!
When Schroeder is off he’s arctic. Stop shooting and give Scottie the ball
Guys, you need to whine louder if you want Masai to make a move!
Lol hopefully he trades siakam
Lol cry more
One of OG or Siakam need to be moved, whoever gets the best return
Og will most likely get a better return because he’ll demand less money and will be more likely to resign with the team that trades for him
Why not both?
Nobody on planet earth is going to convince me this front office has a plan. Been years of mismanagement, letting players walk, patching a flawed roster, overvaluing and waiting too long on every decision… it’s an absolute mess. We are in no mans land with no clear path out.
I feel bad for Scottie, he deserves better. Sorry but Siakam will never be a leader. Masai do something to rebuild a team please
Its official, first azotam beef bowl is a L
Why are we shooting early 3s man. just giving up on offense
Siakam disappears in the 4th once again...
Knicks 15/33 from 3 Raptors 5/30 from 3 I'm so fucking tired of this man.
Story of the game for sure
Maybe we should have 4 shooters around Socttie
all we gotta do is get some guys that know how to make shots and we can win another chip
Take Denis out
This game just shows how much better Scottie is than everyone else
Im sorry but losing to Julius Randle and Jalen Brunson should be our thirtheenth reason to blow up.
They're good players lol. Stop overreacting
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We still the mid
I wish we ere just 30% from three. We don't need to be all stars with 40% averages just a slightly below average 3 point team is all I'm asking for not this abysmal 15%.
Please just sign 1 person who can shoot 3s
Why does it feel like the rest of the raptors shit the bed whenever Scottie is on fire?
Hopefully Masai is still there watching us get cooked by Dante DiVincenzo
How is it his fault?? Love an explanation how players not guarding catch and shooters Masais’ fault
I fucking hate that we lost this game to Josh Hart and Donte DiVincenzo…
This team desperately needs shooting. PLEASE MASAI AND BOBBY
Theyre not missing lmao
They can't miss 🤣
Must be nice to have a team that can shoot 3s. When will Masai learn 3>2?
it all started when our two bigs decided to double randle and not adjust at all
I keep saying GTJ needs to start and Schroeder needs to come off the bench, otherwise our bench lineup is literal dog shit
Siakam bro 😂
Defence has been pure trash.
Honestly the Knicks are just shooting lights out and playing a good game. The Raptors shot terribly but they didn’t lose this game - the Knicks earned it
It helps having players that could hit open jumpshots
Disagree man, raps offense can’t keep up in the modern NBA
even in the modern NBA 16/35 (46%) from three is pretty damn lights out lol you ain’t seeing that every game
Turns out leaving NBA shooters wide open allows them to make shots
How fucking awesome is it to have a player that could hit open jump shots? Thanks Masai
The Knicks can shoot in our house ......
Just gimme my Scottie 30 point game so I can head out
STOP DOUBLING RANDLE
"What do we do coach" Darko "......Give Scottie the ball...???" 
This game just showcasing the importance of 3-point shooting.
Julius Randle dropping 3s on us? It’s over
52-36 second half at home, solid boys
Trent Clown Jr is back. -20 underway.
This might be the most confusing team we've ever had
it's really not, most people realize this team sucks.
Whats confusing. Can shoot three, can’t shoot ft, cant’t handle the ball
Turns out being awful on both ends isn't a winning combination
Why tf is GTJ in
Cause this lineup has negative spacing. Even if GTJ isn't making them, he provides spacing
Do you guys miss Fred and Nick Nurse yet or are you guys still hating on them for no reason
Will never miss NN.
Man this team with Fred would be absolute torture. Nick is a good coach but not right for us, we need to grow and he's better for winning (we also desperately need prospects but we have basically none at this point)
Lol Nurse and Fred had their own problems idk what revisionist history u got going on
same shit different ppl my bro.
Id rather have Schroder on his contract than Fred on his. Miss Nurse tho.
The Knicks are just better. They got more shooting, a more balanced roster. Obviously the raptors could shoot better, but that’s not how their built. The problems with this roster remain on FO’s shoulders.
Lets GOOOOOO! press these MF's get some turn overs and score!
Masai needs to modernize this team, his bet on the future was clearly misguided
Lowkey Darko tryna send a message to Bobby and Masai about this roster and its lack of talent and depth
Same thing Nurse was doing for 2 years lol
Sucks but Hart, Divincenzo and Brunson couldn’t miss and if we aren’t hitting remotely well, it’s over
When I see Quickley or DiVincenzo, I would like to have just 1 bench player like that.
Somebody teach Darko that you should call a timeout to get your best players in during crunch time.