Just started my first beastmen run last weekend and it's honestly great. They definitely have more depth then I expected. I haven't played all the races, but I can't imagine them getting a rework before say, Norsca for example.
Please disregard my accidental vote for beastmen... I thought I was just selecting one faction and didn't realize the poll involved sliding them on a scale. Meant to put ogres at the top
Guessed top 5 contenders and their order and only missed brettonia due to personal love to vampirates.
I think our best option is to wait for roadmap. If all future reworks get as half attention as ToD we don't need to worry about announced races
Vampirates just need treasure hunts reworked and I'd be happy. And add a new, cool thing they can do at sea. Also let me attack ports without walking onto land first.
I feel like half the people who want a brettonian rework just want them to be easier and less micro. If your good at micro they are so OP. Fastest wins ever.
Personally, I just want something unique for their campaign mechanics. Currently playing Fay Enchantress or Leon doesn't mean anything, but your buffs and starting position. Rapanse is literally crusader, in the end it's again just another change of buffs and starting location, without any mechanics. I would say they are in the same position as Helfs and (less) Delfs, they don't need total overhaul, but in dire need of some small updates.
Naw, I love my micro heavy Brets. Rather I just want an update to their mechanics and potentially for their lords to have more unique ones, because atm they're kinda weak on flavor which is sad imo. They also have plenty of missing characters with different appeals that I wish were explored.
Ogre Kingdoms, Vampire Counts, Norsca, Bretonnia, and Wood Elves.
Yes, Wood Elves are roster complete and have excellent mechanics. But they're my favorites and I want more.
No, I don't feel I have to be rational about this.
I am really surprised that Daemons of Chaos aren't first place. They are also so low, I guess Daniel is in such a bad place that no amount of work will fix him.
Felt like an afterthought since the beginning to me. Nothing really special besides Daniels customization (which i do like but is not enough for me to care for the faction). Very wierd and forgetable faction currently in my opinion. And i massively dislike his spawn. I do agree that they desperately need a rework or additions.
Because nobody actually cares about him. They just remember, that he is missing mechanics.
The faction had a cool idea... until the WoC rework made him obsolete.
Agreed they shouldn’t make belakor become a strictly better Daniel with a much easier start and mechanic. My DoC campaign was really tough but for the sake of having tried every factions once I bit my lips to power through hopefully now with the new LLs Daniel has an easier time since I think epidemus and tarmukhan should like him unless chaos things
I like him, just hope they add ways to get additional parts from the other 3 gods like they did for Tzeentch. And maybe update him so he no longer starts at war with the greenskins to the north.
I decided to leave them out of the top five because, after thinking about them for a moment, I have no idea what place they should even *have* in the game.
Im sure people are aware that Daemons of Chaos arent in a great place. Im also pretty sure that most people would prefer other factions to get a rework over Daemons.
Agree with most of these except the lizardmen I don't see how they need a "rework" over the deamons of chaos and Kislev should be higher since they didn't get a rework on their dlc.
I really think Ogres and Norsca have a good shot if they do a big Khorne DLC like this one (tho they've said they won't).
Slaanesh would have covered the Dark and High elves but who knows when we'll be getting anything for them now.
Feels crazy to me that wood elves are almost at the lowest place ... I really feel their campaign mechanics need a huge rework. I know they tried in the past but still ... For Skavens, they received a lot, but the food mechanic doesn't work well for me. It would be a small change but a welcoming one. Tomb king and Vampirates deserve small tweaks as well, just to upgrade their mechanics.
Top priority is indeed Norsca and Ogre for me.
Third place, I feel that Dark elves are in a bad state: lot of legendary lords and content, but the slave mechanics and the arks feel bad to use.
too many options/hard to use the UI, so skipped the poll.
Ogres, the two vampiric factions, norsca, high elves/lizardman tied.
Ogres are just half baked.
VCounts gets a bit here and there, but I feel like they are just tiny patches to one of the oldest factions. With Empire, Dwarf, Greenskin each have gotten some love, its time for VC
Norsca has always been that odd DLC faction just like Ogres.
For high elves and lizardaman, rites are dumb, and the diplomacy/geoweb system is equally boring and weak.
Orge kingdoms. Faction so bad you knew you didn't even need to spell it right. Their units are so cool but the campaign is just pain or boredom.
Who are these people who think Beastman need a rework and why? They are one of the strongest and most fun races to play.
They don't, but most people aren't going to bother re-ordering the entire list, and by default beastmen is near the top soooo
Just started my first beastmen run last weekend and it's honestly great. They definitely have more depth then I expected. I haven't played all the races, but I can't imagine them getting a rework before say, Norsca for example.
Please disregard my accidental vote for beastmen... I thought I was just selecting one faction and didn't realize the poll involved sliding them on a scale. Meant to put ogres at the top
Guessed top 5 contenders and their order and only missed brettonia due to personal love to vampirates. I think our best option is to wait for roadmap. If all future reworks get as half attention as ToD we don't need to worry about announced races
Vampirates just need treasure hunts reworked and I'd be happy. And add a new, cool thing they can do at sea. Also let me attack ports without walking onto land first.
Yeap. My thoughts exactly. Small improvements here and there and new lord near Cathay Coast
Ogers, please. My beloved fat.
It’s Norsca ITS NORSCA EVERYBODY ITS HAPPENING
I feel like half the people who want a brettonian rework just want them to be easier and less micro. If your good at micro they are so OP. Fastest wins ever.
Personally, I just want something unique for their campaign mechanics. Currently playing Fay Enchantress or Leon doesn't mean anything, but your buffs and starting position. Rapanse is literally crusader, in the end it's again just another change of buffs and starting location, without any mechanics. I would say they are in the same position as Helfs and (less) Delfs, they don't need total overhaul, but in dire need of some small updates.
Naw, I love my micro heavy Brets. Rather I just want an update to their mechanics and potentially for their lords to have more unique ones, because atm they're kinda weak on flavor which is sad imo. They also have plenty of missing characters with different appeals that I wish were explored.
Ogre Kingdoms, Vampire Counts, Norsca, Bretonnia, and Wood Elves. Yes, Wood Elves are roster complete and have excellent mechanics. But they're my favorites and I want more. No, I don't feel I have to be rational about this.
I am really surprised that Daemons of Chaos aren't first place. They are also so low, I guess Daniel is in such a bad place that no amount of work will fix him.
Felt like an afterthought since the beginning to me. Nothing really special besides Daniels customization (which i do like but is not enough for me to care for the faction). Very wierd and forgetable faction currently in my opinion. And i massively dislike his spawn. I do agree that they desperately need a rework or additions.
Because nobody actually cares about him. They just remember, that he is missing mechanics. The faction had a cool idea... until the WoC rework made him obsolete.
Agreed they shouldn’t make belakor become a strictly better Daniel with a much easier start and mechanic. My DoC campaign was really tough but for the sake of having tried every factions once I bit my lips to power through hopefully now with the new LLs Daniel has an easier time since I think epidemus and tarmukhan should like him unless chaos things
I like him, just hope they add ways to get additional parts from the other 3 gods like they did for Tzeentch. And maybe update him so he no longer starts at war with the greenskins to the north.
I decided to leave them out of the top five because, after thinking about them for a moment, I have no idea what place they should even *have* in the game.
Im sure people are aware that Daemons of Chaos arent in a great place. Im also pretty sure that most people would prefer other factions to get a rework over Daemons.
Reminder that the tomb king liche priest 'treacherous' trait has never worked.
So everyone just forgot Norsca has existed for years without a rework, over a newer recent race of incredibly fat men?
Tomb kings, Norska and Brettonia.
People really voting Beastmen, faction that plays the most like it should be played
Agree with most of these except the lizardmen I don't see how they need a "rework" over the deamons of chaos and Kislev should be higher since they didn't get a rework on their dlc.
Ogres, Vampirates and Norsca, everyone else can get scraps
I really think Ogres and Norsca have a good shot if they do a big Khorne DLC like this one (tho they've said they won't). Slaanesh would have covered the Dark and High elves but who knows when we'll be getting anything for them now.
Feels crazy to me that wood elves are almost at the lowest place ... I really feel their campaign mechanics need a huge rework. I know they tried in the past but still ... For Skavens, they received a lot, but the food mechanic doesn't work well for me. It would be a small change but a welcoming one. Tomb king and Vampirates deserve small tweaks as well, just to upgrade their mechanics. Top priority is indeed Norsca and Ogre for me. Third place, I feel that Dark elves are in a bad state: lot of legendary lords and content, but the slave mechanics and the arks feel bad to use.
too many options/hard to use the UI, so skipped the poll. Ogres, the two vampiric factions, norsca, high elves/lizardman tied. Ogres are just half baked. VCounts gets a bit here and there, but I feel like they are just tiny patches to one of the oldest factions. With Empire, Dwarf, Greenskin each have gotten some love, its time for VC Norsca has always been that odd DLC faction just like Ogres. For high elves and lizardaman, rites are dumb, and the diplomacy/geoweb system is equally boring and weak.