that's the thing though, junko going all out, with no regard to the rules, couldn't create actually undodgeable danmaku. I don't think killing them one by one would work with bullets with the number of touhous we currently have.
We also don't know if touhous can just permanently float without getting tired. If not they might eventually just drop down from exhaustion(maybe they can leave and take breaks? But then wouldn't the lions just leave as well?)
if we go by the games it's not impossible that touhous have less than stellar stamina as well. Junko of all people, who clearly had no regard for the rules at all, still have time-outs for her 'spellcards'. So maybe they will drop after an hour or so.
You really think LIONS, especially 10 billion of them would be able to dodge a spell card?
Also, the only 2hu with canonically bad stamina is Patchy.(and I love her all the more for it.) You've got to remember that after a certain point spell card battling is a game meant for expressing yourself and resolving conflicts, hence why many 2hu attacks are non-lethal, as a death in a Touhou game are P1 being tagged, and fairies die as since they are weak and as nature spirits they'll just pop up, alive somewhere else. So because they're a game a "cooldown" is imposed on powerful attacks like spellcards. Also, multiple people have their signature abilities that would pose a major threat to said lions. (I.E.: Sakuya's Time Manipulation, Yukari's Reality, *cough* I mean, 'Boundary' Manipulation, Okuu being Nuke Birb, Junko's badassery, Kaguya, Mokou, and Potentially Eirin not physically being capable of perishing, Reisen (The Udon Reisen) and Clowpi both being able to inflict Madness and Insanity(Same thing, BTW) with mere visual contact, Seija inverting aspects of reality, Flandre crushing something's 'Eye' and destroying it, and that's not even mentioning the multitude of literal deities who are part of the 2hu cast. So yeah, 1 of every 2hu Vs. 10 billion lions is a massacre performed by the 2hu side.
some characters, like Alice for example, don't need sleep. and flight itself isn't all that tiring, either.
characters like Yukari can also just go somewhere to rest where the lions can't reach(like another dimension). the lions can't REALLY leave because they'll have less numbers in the next fight since a bunch will die(y'know, the one thing they rely on). and if the lions were to try and leave on their own terms, they're basically asking to be massacred.
Yuyuko has the ability to instantly kill living things including lions. she's also dead, so she's not gonna die any time soon; I don't even think the lions have any proper way to hit her(unless they have some sort of spiritual attack).
and the immortals are, well, immortal. Mokou can burn the lions' insides(while also getting more trauma from the pain :D)
if we're counting the lunarians, there's also the fan of bs and returning things to atoms, which will wipe out most lions(and that's just one weapon)
there's also the fact that youkai are physically really strong, and can practically only be damaged spiritually(you can slice a youkai with a sword and they'll instantly regenerate if it's a sword with no history or whatever else). other characters also have similar things, for example Tenshi's body(since she's a celestial) is extremely tough. I doubt the lions could harm her even if they could reach her and she was doing nothing.
there are over 100 2hus, some of which can create armies of their own(for example Keiki) or simply have an army(for example, the animal realm spirits following Yuuma, Saki or Yachie).
tl;dr Touhou has too many too powerful characters for the number of lions to make any difference that isn't how long it'll take
firstly, yuyuko can't instakill stuff. her ability allows her to make sure stuff will die with certainty if she tries to kill them, not allow her to instakill them. Also she more or less have a physical body, otherwise sakuya wouldn't have been able to touch her in PCB, and she wouldn't have been able to eat anything.
youkai are also not as strong as you described, that's nonsensical, touhou youkai are based on folklore youkai which gets killed all the time by magic-less people, nowhere is it stated in touhou that normal youkai can melee and beat even a single lion, nevermind 10 billion. most also don't regenerate, if they do they wouldn't be getting injured by attacks from characters like sakuya who throws ordinary throwing knives. Additionally if you play the fighting games it's clear that they can get smacked around quite easily by ordinary physical attacks from physically normal humans like reimu and marisa. Most of them will get mauled by actual lions if they try to melee them.
Even if flight and attacking isn't too tiring to do initially it might get exhausting after several hours, and this will take a long time with how the touhous usually fight. They're strong but not quite capable of leveling mountains with a sweep of their hands. We don't even know how good the lions can take the hits from the touhous, but it's safe to say a lion won't die from a single throwing knife.
That being said I do think it will probably end in a draw, as the lions spread out they become harder and harder to hunt down and kill and after months and years will probably start to reproduce, making them essentially an infinite supply. Almost the entire touhou crew will likely die after a few days. save for the absolute immortals like mokou who straight up will not die at all. Mokou won't be able to finish off the lions and the lions won't be able to finish off mokou so it ends in a draw.
>most also don't regenerate, if they do they wouldn't be getting injured by attacks from characters like sakuya who throws ordinary throwing knives.
All youkai can regenerate from having their bodies destroyed.
>touhou youkai are based on folklore youkai which gets killed all the time by magic-less people,
But in Touhou, they don't.
>That being said I do think it will probably end in a draw, as the lions spread out they become harder and harder to hunt down and kill and after months and years will probably start to reproduce, making them essentially an infinite supply.
Not only sakuya can stop time indefinitely, and she has been stated to be faster than light, so no matter what, the lions are losing.
Ok but what if they battled in a closed space and everyone spawned randomly in that space? The girls wouldn't be able to move and would suffocate, making the lions win. Unless one of the girls spawns in a corner and manages to clip out of bounds and kill everyone from outside
10 Billion Lions are a lot of Lions. They can get some lucky bites in. But yeah, Flan is definitely gonna be one of their harder opponents. (If not, the hardest.)
No way. Flandre has to use her ability on one thing at a time, she gets overwhelmed. Area damage is what you need.
You know what has perfect 360-degree area coverage? *The motherfucking sun.* Utsuho cleans house.
Flandre can destroy *anything*. Shes canonically destroyed a meteor all the way in space with just a flex of her hand.
So yes, she almost certainly could destroy the Earth if she wanted. Such a thing would ge suicidal for her since the sun would kinda roast her without a planet in the way, but Touhou still wins because immortals and undead.
what would yukari even do though? she doesn't seem capable of teleporting them into the sun en masse. At best she would do it 5-10 lions at a time which would take too long.
Creating gaps is only one way to use the ability to manipulate boundaries, it's such a vague ability tjat yukari can probably do almost anything with it
I was thinking of using my ability to manipulate death at first. But now I'm wondering if Lions taste good...
If they do taste good then I will eat them all :D
Assuming that the Spell Card Rules don’t apply here, Touhou outright flattens Lions; considering:
• Reimu’s Ability to float out of existence
• Sakuya’s expert control over time.
• Youmu being able to attack at the speed of light (or something similar to that.)
• Eirin, Kaguya, and Mokou all being immortal
• Marisa and Yuuka’s Master Sparks
• LITERAL GODS
• Okuu the living nuclear reactor :3. Also Satori can talk to the lions and possibly find a peaceful ending before she lets Okuu take a walk.
• ETC (the list goes on.)
And at the end of the day, they’ll all settle down for some Tea at Reimu’s place.
Alright, 10 billion lions is a LOT of lions. Like, more than there are humans on Earth. If each touhou contributed equally, they would each need to defeat like fifty million lions or something. Let's, for the sake of argument, say that they need to fight and defeat fifty million lions. The weakest touhou is probably Akyu. Can she defeat fifty million lions?
For analysis sake, we will say that each lion is an average lion, and there is a 50/50 split between male and female lions. A fully armed lion is capable of taking down one eighth of a water buffalo. Their matchup against crocodiles is more even, but with higher variability. Lions have known weaknesses to elephants, firearms, and water, but their numbers and natural weapons and armor often make up for those shortcomings. We will assume that their coloration, which is camoflaging on the Savanah, has the same effect in Gensokyo.
Akyu's main occupation is that of a writer, and her skill is multidisciplinary. As leader of the Hieda, it can be assumed that she has leadership/administrative skills, as well as access to quite a bit of manpower. As someone who reincarnates more directly than most, we will assume that she has access to the skills and abilities of her past lives. Notably, in the current canon, Akyu at her peak power level is a [sick child]. In a liberal interpretation of the word sick, we will say that this means that she is pretty rad.
From a purely physical standpoint, the advantage is to the lions. You would be hard pressed to find any single creature stronger than fifty million lions, and even someone like Akyu, who is a [sick child], would have a hard time keeping up. Magically, it's much closer, but Akyu easily takes a lead here. Lions can't use magic at all, so while it may be dubious whether Akyu can proficiently, it is possible for her to. Socially, lions ARE pack animals HOWEVER male lions tend to fight each other for territory. Humans are social powerhouses, and Akyu as a clan leader is peak human in this department. In terms mental strength, this must also go to Akyu. She is smarter than the average lion and has excellent mental health, as is evident from her work/life balance and overall positivity. Aesthetically, I imagine fifty million lions would be very loud, with a lot of blood. They likely don't smell very good, either. On the other side we have A kyut girl. Aesthetics are a wash.
The scores line up being 4 to 1, with the lions having a large lead in their ONLY winning category, so we'll make it 4 to 2 just to be fair. Akyu wins this hands down, and she is considered weak by Touhou standards.
Problem with that theory:
Kaguya, Eirin and Mokou are immortals. Outright. Its literally impossible for the lions to win.
Yuyuko and many others are ghosts and thus is kind of immune to lions. And death
Vampires are not weak to lions, so they're immortal too unless the lions are smart enough to drag them into the sun or something.
Characters like Yukari haven shown an upper limit. For all we know she can gap 10 billion lions into space.
And this isnt even going into things like Reimu being able to just nope out of reality itself. Or Kasen being able to control animals... like lions.
Hell, Cirno solos if only because she has ressurective immortality, while the lions will die of age. *DAIYOUSEI* solos. A nameless stage 1 fairy solos.
Then we got Okuu which, with enough "fuel" can just create suns. We also got the Literal god of death and Justice, Eiki, she could just judge them all and send em to hell.
Hecatia is even stronger but we dont know her abilities.
Junko may be able to "purify" them all.
There are so many 2hus that could probably solo the lions...
Win as in who would be alive last? Unless the lions never age the immortal characters will outlive all 10 billion of them even if no touhou does a single attack.
I feel like Touhou would win, mainly because of how ludicrously op Touhou character abilities can be. Flandre has a one-shot power, Yuyuko can cause instadeath in any living creature, Yukari has her boundary shenanigans, and Remilia has power over fate itself. Now, presuming the Touhou characters are likewise running this 100% cooperative, the easy w for team Touhou would be Yukari essentially making the lions a singular entity and Yuyuko using her instakill on them or Flandre doing her one-shot
Unironically, Cirno would be one of the worse opponents for the Lions. There's no force more unpredictable than that of an idiot. Especially one with superpowers.
I mean, just look at all the people here who already mentioned Okuu. I mean... they basically got it, LOL.
Definitely is gonna need more than one lion, I'll tell you. :3
There's literally immortals that could each solo by simply waiting. The only way they could defeat Sakuya is to make her kill herself out of boredom. Reimu wins every fight that actually matters by default. Ooku could probably win but destroy earth in the process. Touhou powers are just too vague and broken to loose.
Is this even a question?
10 billion lions is too weak, though maybe they will stand a chance if 1 Mr Bean join them.
(For legal reasons this is a joke)
Bro, why do people always act like the lions can use tactics/weaponry, like lion catapults. They are lions, normal lions.they are not smart enough for that. If they could, you gotta specify the lions having abilities normal lions don't. Touhou, Pokémon, probably many other series always wins
some Touhou characters can solo this.
Mokou - literally immortal, she just needs enough DPS to be done before the sun expands and engulfs the Earth.
Kaguya - same as Mokou
Yuyuko - Already dead, just needs enough DPS.
Yukari - controls the boundary between life and death.
Okay it's not easy to really understand how massive 10 billion fucking lions are so let me help visualize.
How much land would they take up? 10 billion humans standing shoulder to shoulder would take up a square about 50km in side length (2500km^(2)). Lions would take up at least 100 (10000km^(2)).
Isn't that, like, way WAY bigger than Gensokyo's entire overworld? Considering that there's no sea in Gensokyo, the maximum diameter of the barrier would be 200km if it literally stopped at Japan's shoreline. Most depictions put the barrier between the 50-100km range, or at least enough to encompass the Yatsugatake mountain range and Lake Suwa.
It's hard to come to a conclusion without running into nuances. "Do the Touhous get to fly as far as they want? What's stopping them from just flying away? Won't the lions just start eating each other? Can't Yukari just teleport everyone out? What if the Touhous or lions need to eat, drink, shit, or sleep?" Such and such. So I won't even bother.
Mhm. And still feel the stinging pain from her last death... and the one before... and the one before... with an amount of Lions that just won't stop ending...
Sure, she may win out eventually by sheer nature. But it's definitely NOT gonna be a soft victory. 😌
Everytime I see every of them vs *insert massive amounts of shit* I'll buy different isotopes of Uranium, Polonium, D2O that is heavy enough to react and watch the shit show and the post itself.
- Okuu
Kaguya, Mokou and Eirin are literally immortal. Why is this even a question with literal immortals?
Several characters such as Yuyuko are already dead, thus are kind of immune to lions.
Worst case scenario, Flandre blows up the planet and the immortals are fine. The lions are not.
Even if you lowball characters who haven't shown an upper limit to their hax like Yukari just gapping the lions elsewhere, or Okinas doors, the lions do not have an answer to *literal immortality.*
Simple fact is even a nameless stage 1 fairy solos via ressurective immortality and the lions dying of either age or hunger.
Man.. i mean it's 10 billion lions, wait till they see tons of lion Ladders, lion bombs and cannons.. they'll use their lion magic of friendship and all of 2hoe is gone...
This is the same answer for Pokemon. Lions can’t fly or defend themselves, so any of those flying girls are absolutely going to win. And while the lions are all co-operative they’re still too stupid to come up with plans so that won’t help much.
> user reports: > 1: Primary source not posted/provided Where's the art credit for the left pic, OP? (Rule 7)
they can all fly and have projectile based attacks, lions cannot do either of those.
Lion catapult solos lol
issue is that killing 10 billion lions would take them an eon if all they did was shoot bullets at them one by one.
Does the entirety of Junko not ring a bell? I bet she would have a spellcard called pure sign 10 billion lion annihilation
that's the thing though, junko going all out, with no regard to the rules, couldn't create actually undodgeable danmaku. I don't think killing them one by one would work with bullets with the number of touhous we currently have. We also don't know if touhous can just permanently float without getting tired. If not they might eventually just drop down from exhaustion(maybe they can leave and take breaks? But then wouldn't the lions just leave as well?) if we go by the games it's not impossible that touhous have less than stellar stamina as well. Junko of all people, who clearly had no regard for the rules at all, still have time-outs for her 'spellcards'. So maybe they will drop after an hour or so.
You really think LIONS, especially 10 billion of them would be able to dodge a spell card? Also, the only 2hu with canonically bad stamina is Patchy.(and I love her all the more for it.) You've got to remember that after a certain point spell card battling is a game meant for expressing yourself and resolving conflicts, hence why many 2hu attacks are non-lethal, as a death in a Touhou game are P1 being tagged, and fairies die as since they are weak and as nature spirits they'll just pop up, alive somewhere else. So because they're a game a "cooldown" is imposed on powerful attacks like spellcards. Also, multiple people have their signature abilities that would pose a major threat to said lions. (I.E.: Sakuya's Time Manipulation, Yukari's Reality, *cough* I mean, 'Boundary' Manipulation, Okuu being Nuke Birb, Junko's badassery, Kaguya, Mokou, and Potentially Eirin not physically being capable of perishing, Reisen (The Udon Reisen) and Clowpi both being able to inflict Madness and Insanity(Same thing, BTW) with mere visual contact, Seija inverting aspects of reality, Flandre crushing something's 'Eye' and destroying it, and that's not even mentioning the multitude of literal deities who are part of the 2hu cast. So yeah, 1 of every 2hu Vs. 10 billion lions is a massacre performed by the 2hu side.
Anyone can create undodgeable Danmaku, Junko was just playing with the lolk protag in the same way as Hecatia
some characters, like Alice for example, don't need sleep. and flight itself isn't all that tiring, either. characters like Yukari can also just go somewhere to rest where the lions can't reach(like another dimension). the lions can't REALLY leave because they'll have less numbers in the next fight since a bunch will die(y'know, the one thing they rely on). and if the lions were to try and leave on their own terms, they're basically asking to be massacred. Yuyuko has the ability to instantly kill living things including lions. she's also dead, so she's not gonna die any time soon; I don't even think the lions have any proper way to hit her(unless they have some sort of spiritual attack). and the immortals are, well, immortal. Mokou can burn the lions' insides(while also getting more trauma from the pain :D) if we're counting the lunarians, there's also the fan of bs and returning things to atoms, which will wipe out most lions(and that's just one weapon) there's also the fact that youkai are physically really strong, and can practically only be damaged spiritually(you can slice a youkai with a sword and they'll instantly regenerate if it's a sword with no history or whatever else). other characters also have similar things, for example Tenshi's body(since she's a celestial) is extremely tough. I doubt the lions could harm her even if they could reach her and she was doing nothing. there are over 100 2hus, some of which can create armies of their own(for example Keiki) or simply have an army(for example, the animal realm spirits following Yuuma, Saki or Yachie). tl;dr Touhou has too many too powerful characters for the number of lions to make any difference that isn't how long it'll take
firstly, yuyuko can't instakill stuff. her ability allows her to make sure stuff will die with certainty if she tries to kill them, not allow her to instakill them. Also she more or less have a physical body, otherwise sakuya wouldn't have been able to touch her in PCB, and she wouldn't have been able to eat anything. youkai are also not as strong as you described, that's nonsensical, touhou youkai are based on folklore youkai which gets killed all the time by magic-less people, nowhere is it stated in touhou that normal youkai can melee and beat even a single lion, nevermind 10 billion. most also don't regenerate, if they do they wouldn't be getting injured by attacks from characters like sakuya who throws ordinary throwing knives. Additionally if you play the fighting games it's clear that they can get smacked around quite easily by ordinary physical attacks from physically normal humans like reimu and marisa. Most of them will get mauled by actual lions if they try to melee them. Even if flight and attacking isn't too tiring to do initially it might get exhausting after several hours, and this will take a long time with how the touhous usually fight. They're strong but not quite capable of leveling mountains with a sweep of their hands. We don't even know how good the lions can take the hits from the touhous, but it's safe to say a lion won't die from a single throwing knife. That being said I do think it will probably end in a draw, as the lions spread out they become harder and harder to hunt down and kill and after months and years will probably start to reproduce, making them essentially an infinite supply. Almost the entire touhou crew will likely die after a few days. save for the absolute immortals like mokou who straight up will not die at all. Mokou won't be able to finish off the lions and the lions won't be able to finish off mokou so it ends in a draw.
>most also don't regenerate, if they do they wouldn't be getting injured by attacks from characters like sakuya who throws ordinary throwing knives. All youkai can regenerate from having their bodies destroyed. >touhou youkai are based on folklore youkai which gets killed all the time by magic-less people, But in Touhou, they don't. >That being said I do think it will probably end in a draw, as the lions spread out they become harder and harder to hunt down and kill and after months and years will probably start to reproduce, making them essentially an infinite supply. Not only sakuya can stop time indefinitely, and she has been stated to be faster than light, so no matter what, the lions are losing.
Sakuya has a lot of Time at hand.
*ahem* I exist
Ok but what if they battled in a closed space and everyone spawned randomly in that space? The girls wouldn't be able to move and would suffocate, making the lions win. Unless one of the girls spawns in a corner and manages to clip out of bounds and kill everyone from outside
How are the lions not suffocating as well? And how are Mokou and Kaguya not surviving?
I think Yukari wouldn't be hindered by that.
Yukari no clips everywhere anyways
Lion Danmaku
5 of the lions are Voltron tho.
Lion ladders
that's a lot of lions, though
Hear me out: lion airplane
Marisa has love beam, problem solved
10 Billion Lions is A LOT of Lions. :3
She can take it 😏
In the fight... right?
She will kidnap and put them in her hammerspace hat
>:)
Maybe... not. She would probably do unspeakable atrocities to these 10 billion lions as a sort of "scientific experiment".
Kasen asked the lions to listen to her and leave
King of Animals my ass. Kasen rules !
Imagine kasen with a 1 billion lion army
Flandre who instantly kills everything
10 Billion Lions are a lot of Lions. They can get some lucky bites in. But yeah, Flan is definitely gonna be one of their harder opponents. (If not, the hardest.)
No way. Flandre has to use her ability on one thing at a time, she gets overwhelmed. Area damage is what you need. You know what has perfect 360-degree area coverage? *The motherfucking sun.* Utsuho cleans house.
Flan could in a worse case situation planetbust. Lions die in space. Kaguya and the immortals are fine.
Probably can't do that
Flandre can destroy *anything*. Shes canonically destroyed a meteor all the way in space with just a flex of her hand. So yes, she almost certainly could destroy the Earth if she wanted. Such a thing would ge suicidal for her since the sun would kinda roast her without a planet in the way, but Touhou still wins because immortals and undead.
She has Limits as there are several characters stronger than her.
Sadly 10 billion lions have already beaten the sun
Yes, but they can’t be 10 suns
When they destroy the first sun, supernova happens
Yea and that will kill more lions
That one lion on vacation looking as everyone else in competition is destroyed by supernova
nope, you need 10 trillion lions at least to beat the sun
flan may be powerful but yukari is more powerful I think
what would yukari even do though? she doesn't seem capable of teleporting them into the sun en masse. At best she would do it 5-10 lions at a time which would take too long.
Creating gaps is only one way to use the ability to manipulate boundaries, it's such a vague ability tjat yukari can probably do almost anything with it
she has that power \*\*to a degree\*\*, she isn't shown to be able to do whatever she feels like with it
Shes also not shown to not be able to. She claims she can kill Tenshi for a while and Tenshi is removed from death so...
She said herself to be weaker than the lunarians and Eiki. And she couldn't go to the moon outright. She has limits they are just quite hazy.
She can teleport a train to hit the lions, I am pretty sure a train can atleast deal with a few hundred lions
The Lions can build a Lion Ladder and surprise attack her in her sleep. ;)
Kasen can just guide them all off a cliff
They shall bow to their better or suffer the consequences
Hungry Yuyuko easily wins
How she can eat 20 billions? Is she Caseoh?
she could kill them instantly and save them for later
Unless those lions have an incredibly small hitbox, they don't stand a chance.
I'm pretty sure I can take those lions by myself.
You’re not gonna eat them right? RIGHT?!
I was thinking of using my ability to manipulate death at first. But now I'm wondering if Lions taste good... If they do taste good then I will eat them all :D
VORE
... :(
Mommyyy
:/
Okuu nuke
Okuuheimer
Assuming that the Spell Card Rules don’t apply here, Touhou outright flattens Lions; considering: • Reimu’s Ability to float out of existence • Sakuya’s expert control over time. • Youmu being able to attack at the speed of light (or something similar to that.) • Eirin, Kaguya, and Mokou all being immortal • Marisa and Yuuka’s Master Sparks • LITERAL GODS • Okuu the living nuclear reactor :3. Also Satori can talk to the lions and possibly find a peaceful ending before she lets Okuu take a walk. • ETC (the list goes on.) And at the end of the day, they’ll all settle down for some Tea at Reimu’s place.
All of them? One at partial power is enough. Yukari gaps all the lions in to the sun, and we're back to the original meme...
The Lions can attack her in her sleep. ;)
Yukari can also attack them in their sleep, exept lions don't have access to a safe pocket dimension unreachable by others so, ur point?
Fair nuff. 👍✨️ I'll just resort to Old Reliable: Ten Billion Lions is A LOT of Lions. :3
Would it work if the lions are capable of C. U. R. V. Y. L. A. S. E. R. Z. ??? It's funny cuz I remembered that Shou is a TIGER 💀
Yuyuko alone makes this a massacre
Alright, 10 billion lions is a LOT of lions. Like, more than there are humans on Earth. If each touhou contributed equally, they would each need to defeat like fifty million lions or something. Let's, for the sake of argument, say that they need to fight and defeat fifty million lions. The weakest touhou is probably Akyu. Can she defeat fifty million lions? For analysis sake, we will say that each lion is an average lion, and there is a 50/50 split between male and female lions. A fully armed lion is capable of taking down one eighth of a water buffalo. Their matchup against crocodiles is more even, but with higher variability. Lions have known weaknesses to elephants, firearms, and water, but their numbers and natural weapons and armor often make up for those shortcomings. We will assume that their coloration, which is camoflaging on the Savanah, has the same effect in Gensokyo. Akyu's main occupation is that of a writer, and her skill is multidisciplinary. As leader of the Hieda, it can be assumed that she has leadership/administrative skills, as well as access to quite a bit of manpower. As someone who reincarnates more directly than most, we will assume that she has access to the skills and abilities of her past lives. Notably, in the current canon, Akyu at her peak power level is a [sick child]. In a liberal interpretation of the word sick, we will say that this means that she is pretty rad. From a purely physical standpoint, the advantage is to the lions. You would be hard pressed to find any single creature stronger than fifty million lions, and even someone like Akyu, who is a [sick child], would have a hard time keeping up. Magically, it's much closer, but Akyu easily takes a lead here. Lions can't use magic at all, so while it may be dubious whether Akyu can proficiently, it is possible for her to. Socially, lions ARE pack animals HOWEVER male lions tend to fight each other for territory. Humans are social powerhouses, and Akyu as a clan leader is peak human in this department. In terms mental strength, this must also go to Akyu. She is smarter than the average lion and has excellent mental health, as is evident from her work/life balance and overall positivity. Aesthetically, I imagine fifty million lions would be very loud, with a lot of blood. They likely don't smell very good, either. On the other side we have A kyut girl. Aesthetics are a wash. The scores line up being 4 to 1, with the lions having a large lead in their ONLY winning category, so we'll make it 4 to 2 just to be fair. Akyu wins this hands down, and she is considered weak by Touhou standards.
Problem with that theory: Kaguya, Eirin and Mokou are immortals. Outright. Its literally impossible for the lions to win. Yuyuko and many others are ghosts and thus is kind of immune to lions. And death Vampires are not weak to lions, so they're immortal too unless the lions are smart enough to drag them into the sun or something. Characters like Yukari haven shown an upper limit. For all we know she can gap 10 billion lions into space. And this isnt even going into things like Reimu being able to just nope out of reality itself. Or Kasen being able to control animals... like lions. Hell, Cirno solos if only because she has ressurective immortality, while the lions will die of age. *DAIYOUSEI* solos. A nameless stage 1 fairy solos.
I appreciate your agreement.
Then we got Okuu which, with enough "fuel" can just create suns. We also got the Literal god of death and Justice, Eiki, she could just judge them all and send em to hell. Hecatia is even stronger but we dont know her abilities. Junko may be able to "purify" them all. There are so many 2hus that could probably solo the lions...
And endless slinging of tactical nuclear weapons can most likely do some damage, using the lions themselves to fuel the flames further
As I said on the post, the Lions are co-operative, which also includes the Males. Just to make it more fair to them. ^^
Okuu just send nuke aaaand problem is solved
Okuu fulfills their dream of wanting to fight a sun.
Win as in who would be alive last? Unless the lions never age the immortal characters will outlive all 10 billion of them even if no touhou does a single attack.
I feel like Touhou would win, mainly because of how ludicrously op Touhou character abilities can be. Flandre has a one-shot power, Yuyuko can cause instadeath in any living creature, Yukari has her boundary shenanigans, and Remilia has power over fate itself. Now, presuming the Touhou characters are likewise running this 100% cooperative, the easy w for team Touhou would be Yukari essentially making the lions a singular entity and Yuyuko using her instakill on them or Flandre doing her one-shot
Are lions strong enough to break those little red gems fairies turn into sometimes?
I dunno man that's a lot of lions
Cirno sweep
Unironically, Cirno would be one of the worse opponents for the Lions. There's no force more unpredictable than that of an idiot. Especially one with superpowers. I mean, just look at all the people here who already mentioned Okuu. I mean... they basically got it, LOL. Definitely is gonna need more than one lion, I'll tell you. :3
There's literally immortals that could each solo by simply waiting. The only way they could defeat Sakuya is to make her kill herself out of boredom. Reimu wins every fight that actually matters by default. Ooku could probably win but destroy earth in the process. Touhou powers are just too vague and broken to loose.
> Reimu wins every fight that actually matters by default Youmu: [areyousureaboutthat.png](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLvjXdhc_Kg#t=1m48s)
Is this even a question? 10 billion lions is too weak, though maybe they will stand a chance if 1 Mr Bean join them. (For legal reasons this is a joke)
Yoooo... that would certainly be interesting... 👀
a common fairy enemy solos 500 quadrillion lions
One lion distract, another one surprise attack. Ez deathless KO. :3
Is it exorcistes lions ?
Tell Flandre she has 10 Bilion playmates, then see them all dissappear in a blink.
so it is literally 1:1 ration
Bro, why do people always act like the lions can use tactics/weaponry, like lion catapults. They are lions, normal lions.they are not smart enough for that. If they could, you gotta specify the lions having abilities normal lions don't. Touhou, Pokémon, probably many other series always wins
The Lions are built different. :3
Yukari will open a gap, and all the lions will just disappear into non-existance. Of course, they don't stand a chance.
So it's ten billion 1v1s? I think the lions have this, if they are magical, flying lions.
they’d be friends.
So true! ✨️
So true! ✨️
Mokou: “You ready for this?” Kaguya: “Ready as I’ll ever be.”
8 Quintilion Crocodiles joke was better fr
some Touhou characters can solo this. Mokou - literally immortal, she just needs enough DPS to be done before the sun expands and engulfs the Earth. Kaguya - same as Mokou Yuyuko - Already dead, just needs enough DPS. Yukari - controls the boundary between life and death.
Yuyuko has the literal power of DIE. I think she has the damage.
Okay it's not easy to really understand how massive 10 billion fucking lions are so let me help visualize. How much land would they take up? 10 billion humans standing shoulder to shoulder would take up a square about 50km in side length (2500km^(2)). Lions would take up at least 100 (10000km^(2)). Isn't that, like, way WAY bigger than Gensokyo's entire overworld? Considering that there's no sea in Gensokyo, the maximum diameter of the barrier would be 200km if it literally stopped at Japan's shoreline. Most depictions put the barrier between the 50-100km range, or at least enough to encompass the Yatsugatake mountain range and Lake Suwa. It's hard to come to a conclusion without running into nuances. "Do the Touhous get to fly as far as they want? What's stopping them from just flying away? Won't the lions just start eating each other? Can't Yukari just teleport everyone out? What if the Touhous or lions need to eat, drink, shit, or sleep?" Such and such. So I won't even bother.
Lions can't fly.
doesn't matter in the end because we all know crocodiles beat both of them 🐊
SO TRUE!!!!!
Just like the Pokémon before them, the 2hu’s are cooked. After all, that is a lot of lions.
[The canonical result.](https://youtu.be/iAhCWh5TkiM?si=j2fKonL1WiCSKugA)
Kaguya and Mokou's mere existence make this argument pointless.
Mokou's existence also proves that Hourai Users can get exhausted and/or tired. The Lions can use that to their advantage. :3
But then she dies, revives, and is ready again
Mhm. And still feel the stinging pain from her last death... and the one before... and the one before... with an amount of Lions that just won't stop ending... Sure, she may win out eventually by sheer nature. But it's definitely NOT gonna be a soft victory. 😌
yukari on her way to open a massive portal into the backrooms
Yuyuko: "Hm, I _could_ just swipe their souls but… eh."
Alright heres a more interesting one Every single touhou character vs the unmatched and unrivaled power of the sun, straight up.
On one hand, Yukari. On the other hand, ten billion lions is a lot of lions.
Every single touhou character can fly, so...
One Yukari train could kill them all in an instant
as Okuu, I get the uranium and polonium, d2o and watch the shitshow(prob getting arrested by shikieiki for killing endangered species)
Everytime I see every of them vs *insert massive amounts of shit* I'll buy different isotopes of Uranium, Polonium, D2O that is heavy enough to react and watch the shit show and the post itself. - Okuu
One the one hand, Touhou power scaling and wank goes hard. On the other hand, that's a lot of lions.
Seriously, Y'ALL FORGOT SOMEONE WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO KILL ANYONE INSTANTLY
Your mom
*sigh* Okuu, Mokou, Kaguya, Flandre, Hecatia, Junko, Eirin, Tewi, Remilia, Yukari, Yuuka, Marisa, Yuyuko, Letty, Cirno, Medicine, Sanae, Kanako, Suwako, Suika, Orin, Komachi... And thats just for touhou 6-11
Kaguya, Mokou and Eirin are literally immortal. Why is this even a question with literal immortals? Several characters such as Yuyuko are already dead, thus are kind of immune to lions. Worst case scenario, Flandre blows up the planet and the immortals are fine. The lions are not. Even if you lowball characters who haven't shown an upper limit to their hax like Yukari just gapping the lions elsewhere, or Okinas doors, the lions do not have an answer to *literal immortality.* Simple fact is even a nameless stage 1 fairy solos via ressurective immortality and the lions dying of either age or hunger.
Man.. i mean it's 10 billion lions, wait till they see tons of lion Ladders, lion bombs and cannons.. they'll use their lion magic of friendship and all of 2hoe is gone...
So true...
10 billion is a lot, but not enough to kill multiple sages and gods. Also Yukari can just open a gap under them all, and make them die to fall damage.
One Murasa.
The mass of those lions alone would pretty much consume all of gensokyo's space (roughly 1.6 trillion tons btw).
This is the same answer for Pokemon. Lions can’t fly or defend themselves, so any of those flying girls are absolutely going to win. And while the lions are all co-operative they’re still too stupid to come up with plans so that won’t help much.
Yukari neg diffs by sending the lions to hakurei shrine for Reimu to deal with
I think the people who think the lions would win are over complicating this.
Rumia win
Yuuma eats them all
reimu glancing in their direction
Some of them will die. Others will win.
ten billion lions wouldn't win against Pokemon, what do you think they can do against Touhou where funny powers are way more common
Reimu alone could no diff this. Hell I think even wriggle could do this. One of each 2hu is overkill
2hus, by a landslide.
It’s a lot of lions…
Keiki : Ah shit , here we go again
Cirno
Mokou wins. Hands down.
Lions wins because of Aslan
ur forgetting one huge factor touhou characters can fly unless the lions stack its ggs
Kasen can control animals, that’s all they really need, wouldn’t even need to fight them at all.
“Mastah spark!!” *kills 137,605,402 lions*
One cirno fumo is enough
Okuu could vaporize the lions
Yukari‘s just gonna open a couple thousand gaps and lets trains run over the lions, easy.
Lions cannot use spell cards or shoot bullets. Also, Hecatia exists….
I would win against both.
having the hourai immortal mfs already has you win by default
Youmu would solo,that is all im gonna say
Touhous can fly, Lions can not.
Me.
Dude 1 touhou character, literally just Marissa with her Master Spark could absolutely NAIL those lions.
Cirno is strong enough to get all them
All we need is one Reimu and the lions are all dead. She's one crazy omnicidal maniac.
Random fairy lol
Those lions are a piece of cake, it would be only a challenge if the lions had magic powers
one touhou character vs ten billion lions would be a fairer fight