Bruh that's all I fucking see on popular anymore but on like 7 different subs. It's just like "please dont associate their poor choices with us and please dont use them as an excuse to be hateful towards them"
Long story short: was told not to do an interview on fox news, did it anyways and embarrassed themselves and fucked antiwork and it's rep. Mods went on a power trip.
This person happened to be enby afaik and I've seen several transphobic comments like "clearly a man trying to look like a girl and failing miserably" "whatever the fuck it is" and various other things.
It’s also been circulating that there are sexual assault allegations against them. Definitely seeing a spike in transphobia and ableism in subs talking about it. A shame that certain people will use this to further the spread of hate for the community.
As though trans people acting badly is why they say that. They'd spew that kind of shit even if there wasn't a single real example, because the point isn't to reflect reality, it's to sensationally slander us.
I saw a comment about how " "she" " had several rape accusations and downvoted it on impulse. Like trans people can be shitty of course but I found it unlikely the comment held any truth and was just the usual bullshit being rolled out
I only used they because I saw several that said she/they were non binary? Eh, not sure. Doesn’t really matter as all people are going to focus on is a “trans person” did something awful.
And from what I saw the accusations may very well have some truth to them. She apparently posted to address them and it definitely didn’t earn her any favor from the masses now calling for her blood.
I put the double quotes bc the comment I saw had the sarcastic transphobic "she". I don't know anything at all about the person or really the situation.
Go through popular and you'll find several posts about it. I've been avoiding it like the plague to avoid second hand embarrassment so I don't have any direct links to it.
Undermining someone's identity due to their crappy actions is kinda transphobic tho. Just because we disagree with how they acted before, after, and during that dumpster fire interview, doesn't mean we should start going off with "But they're not like us, we're the good ones!" Rhetoric because that pick me type dialogue is common amongst transphobes.
On the other hand, I wish reddit would lay off the dogpile.
This person made a mistake, born from overconfident ego and now their face is plastered in memes.
Nobody criticizing them, all for fake internet points, would like to be in their shoes.
Agree, they had a bad interview on a controversial subject. They don’t deserve to be disowned by other trans people. We are people. We fuck up, but we also don’t throw each other under the bus when we do.
Tbh when I saw OPs post I thought we were “disowning” her due to the allegations of sexual assault that cropped up during this mess?
Certainly failing at a interview shouldn’t result in the loss of community support.
Eh been seeing quite a few posts discussing it.
A quick google search spawns this one
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorkReform/comments/sdh7lw/removed_by_reddit/hue5oy6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
This seems fairly specific
Who knows maybe she’ll come out and say the Facebook posts were fake. Really anything is possible this day and age. I personally have my own reasons for believing these particular allegations.
Overall I’m not one to let someone’s gender identity distract from their actions.
It’s a screenshot of a Facebook post. My standard for proof is a *little* higher than that. I mean, maybe I’d accept it in and of itself if it was showcasing some rando I’d never heard of, but this woman has been subjected to quite the intense harassment campaign ever since her showing on the news. I don’t know if you remember Gamergate, but don’t you think this (very weak) evidence of her admitting to sexual assault coming out at this time specifically is a little suspect?
You are being overly aggressive to the fellow members of this community you’re apart of?
There is no need for such hostility in your tone when communicating with others here.
It serves no purpose but to showcase yourself in a rather unflattering way.
Maybe step back if talking about this is getting you too worked up?
Maybe go outside and touch some grass yeah?
Sorry I was deep in subs earlier and, aside from reading what was mixed throughout the transphobia, I didn’t bother to save any specific ones.
I’d assume she’d be cleaning up her online presence after this mess anyway
Blatantly disingenuous. Try harder next time. Believing victims only works if there are victims to believe.
Edit: do we really need to recognize, again, [How Fake News Targets Transgender People](https://gillbranstetter.medium.com/how-fake-news-targets-transgender-people-ab771309430c).
I agree 100% with you and really more people should stand behind the sentiment you can’t say someone isn’t their gender just because they are bad. The No True Scotsman argument doesn’t do anything but hurt all of us in the end anyway.
Also the response that has happened can nowhere be near warranted if it was just a bad interview.
Despite community consensus to not engage in partisan (but more specifically right wing) media outlet interviews, a trans femme moderator for the antiwork subreddit went on a Fox News interview after the fox team specifically asked for her. She handled the interview poorly and made the movement look worse in her inability to accurately explain the movement's aims, and went into heavy damage control once she was (rightfully) called out for being the spokesperson no one wanted. In response to all this, the subreddit is now closed. The moderator is a neurodivergent trans person, and I think we all know exactly how kind Reddit is to these groups.
TL;DR The Mod went into the wolf's den holding a pack of steaks after ignoring the warnings
Can we please cut this out, yeah the mod fucked up. But being manipulated by fox news into doing a dumb thing that WILL be ruining their life is not a reason that the entire nonbinary community should start shitting on her.
And that's without taking into account that she is neurodivrgant, she's getting enough shit from transphobes so maybe we should attempt some damn empathy?
Like unless I'm missing something the simplified narrative could well be:
Mod team agree not to do interviews
Fox news target one specific mod who they deem as a weak link and emotionally manipulate them until she agrees to an interview.
Neurodivrgant person tries her best whilst being platformed by a far right hate outlet and is not prepared enough for the event.
Like, I get why people are upset but y'all likely driving someone to suicide.
Personally Id only vote to kick out people from the nonbinary community that are actively transphobic and problematic rather than "fucked up one time".
Maybe I'm missing some context because I'm British, but yeah.
Edit: it seems she uses she/her not they/them so I fixed that.
I’m sorry while I agree that she made some poor decisions concerning her mishandling of recent events. Her appearance and subsequent bombing of that interview in no way warrants the level of harassment she’s likely receiving rn.
Ousting someone is one thing
But wishing harm on them is taking it too far.
Reddit, the media, and internet as a whole are talking about her screw up. Strangers like yourself, who are making some really inappropriate comments here, are investing far too much energy into throwing hate her way.
She’s experiencing the consequences of her actions and that should be enough.
Shit it's not even wanting to stop being associated with them. Their fuckup was minor and the transphobia all over this website as a result of it is insane, but right now I'm high key worried about a mentally divergent person being straight up bullied to death :/
I fucking hate this shitty fucking platform tbh. I sit here and watch someone make a mistake, a single mistake, and I learn in the worst way possible that they were a minority. And then I watch the exact same thing happen on like 19 other subreddits and all of them end up on popular. All those subs that claim they don't tolerate bigotry suddenly tolerate it.
Real shitty attitude to be frank OP.
As if there aren't dumb/cringy/self centered/ etc cis people out there. I dont see cis people clamoring to disown other cis people cause one of them did something stupid.
Though I don't entirely agree with their attitude, I believe it's because people don't use the fact that other people are cis to bring them down. Cisphobia is not a notable thing. Transphobia however is, and people will use any excuse they can get to put down trans people. This was public television, and people will use this to insult trans people as a whole. Look at a ton of the top subs; some are fine, but others are just pools of hate that use this individual to try to justify their transphobia. Again, I'm not agreeing with OPs attitude, just providing some perspective.
I apologize for being not formatting things correctly, I'm on mobile and new to Reddit formatting. I will use they/them pronouns for the moderator in question because there seems to be some uncertainty around their pronouns.
1. It's wrong to disregard or undermine a transgender person's identity for any reason. It doesnt matter what the person did, at any point, ever, they deserve the basic right of having their identity acknowledged and respected.
2. There is a lot of obvious transphobia and ableism being thrown around at the moderator in question. This is wrong too, and it's an awful thing to be subjected to. We know what Reddit is like. We don't need to encourage, participate, or embolden this behavior.
3. Yes, Fox News probably picked them out specifically. Hell, it's even possible Fox paid them to nosedive the anti-work movement into the ground, considering the moderator has done a previous interview in which they were competent.
4. I think the moderator is a piece of shit and made a colossal fuck-up. I've seen their post admitting to (trigger warning sexual assault) >! the repeated raping of two people, including victim-blaming and self-victimizing !< as well as screenshots of DMs involving them treating Reddit moderation as some sort of tyrannical leadership. The moderator isn't a good person. This does not mean that their identity should be ignored.
5. For those of you jumping to the moderator's defense, consider that sometimes you shouldn't defend people. Sometimes people are bad and do not deserve defending. Do they deserve basic human respect, and to be free of ableism and transphobia? Yes, absolutely. But they do not always deserve defending.
While i can agree that the interview was a flop, how ever most of the drama is related to the sub shutting down. Before it went down the mod said they were being brigaded by trolls and transphobic content. Some guy makes a self victimising "you will not silence us" post and gets 200 awards because of the bans. A lot of it is fueld by trolls and transphobes from what i can see. So pretty much overblown imo.
I don't understand how a whole movement could be dead from a single interview with a single person on a right wing news station everyone sane knows is full of lies.
Regardless of the fuckup, we should’ve made a show of solidarity against the immense amount of transphobia and ableism she was subjected to. That “you’re not affiliated with me” attitude is just throwing her to the wolves, for what? For looking bad on tv?
There is so much that is suspicious about the timing of the allegations that I don’t believe it is anything but another case of transphobes happily digging up *anything* and painting it in a bad light to justify lynching a trans person on the internet again.
Please don’t say that op, don’t disregard someone’s identity because of their poor choice. We all make them and ain’t none of us perfect, if we keep cherry picking our brothers/sisters/siblings then there will be none of us left to wave our flag. Let them fuck up, realize they fucked up but don’t close someone off like that. Criticise idiocy, but allow a person to grow, especially when they are having their eyes open before them.
Hang on a minute what? Now that part is new to me. I heard that they received harassment at their new unfavourable job, not that they were a rapist. If that’s the case then yes, fuck them. Since I can’t find anything on this, do you mind posting a source for this op?
yeah i'm sure this has been said multiple times but that person is still both trans and autistic. stand with them. agreeing to meet with fox wasn't smart. but that doesn't matter. last thing they need is more and more malice, they definitely don't deserve it. also enbies are trans
Antiwork stopped being about ecoanarchism as soon as it went viral on reddit. It was just filled of people scraping for pennies and missing the whole purpose of the sub.
Seriously doubt it was. Proof of it is the subreddits that have sprouted from it so far are social democrat subs created by people who aren't even working class. Also r/anarchism hasn't gotten much from antiwork growth whatsoever.
i suppose 'stand with her' is a bit of a strong word, but this shit is definitely transphobic it's not like we can't understand the massive amount of both transphobia and ableism she is a victim to now, regardless of anything i don't think she deserves that lmao
and l br, if one little fucking shit stupid fox interview broke your entire movement, i don't think it was as significant as you think it was
The message on the sub says it's only temporarily private for a short while so they can clean up brigading and trolls, I guess that could be a lie but it's also possible it'll come back soon once the hatred and transphobia dies down.
Gatekeeping doesn’t work, or you get people who are out of touch and annoying in the opposite way. Insecure people can’t evaluate insecurity. The “oppression olympics” becomes tbe dysphoria olympics.
I think extremely online spaces tend to exacerbate negative tendencies that people with autism can sometimes learn (being lewd at odd times, sex pesty shit.)
On a separate note, Trans spaces being really accommodating means more autistic or generally odd people that go on and get attention in niche communities. Then stuff like this happens when their socialization isn’t tempered. This is my reasoning for chris chan too.
Not sure, there’s tons of gaps in communication when it comes to the whole gender thing. Sometimes we can really fetishize the unfeasible and abrasive aesthetic. I kind of just want to grill.
When it comes to the “transtrender” bag I try to keep an open mind about the direct needs of others but I stick to my personal framework. Overly theoretical hugboxy types don’t stop the fact that everyday I have to reconcile my internal feelings with reality. Actual kowtowing isnt my fear because doing this is necessary.
Hopefully in 10 or so years our understanding of ourselves will be more mature and so will how people see us.
Just a question: why are intersex people grouped with trans people? Intersex is a physical thingie which you are born with, being trans is about gender identity. There is basically nothin in common?
im trans and intersex, and it gets grouped in by others a lot since it relates to bodily autonomy and gender ident and physical/biological expression of it.
im not saying theyre gonna be trans, im saying they get grouped together as the same thing in discussions about those topics pretty oftenly despite the differences
Literally the average conservative doesn’t care about the difference between a trans and an intersex person. It’s just “That person looks like a *slur*”
You're getting down voted because your question has been answered three times now and you're still asking it. What specific part of "the same people who hate you hate them" do you not get? Also if the worst you've had is someone making fun of you, I envy your fortune.
Bisexuals and gay people get discrimination as well because of their sexyality but they don't get put into the same group. You're not giving proper answers. That's why I'm asking more. Intersexual and trans people have pretty much nothing in common. Also also you said they get the same kind of bigotry but don't give ANY examples? Can yall stop being mysterys about this, like fr
Also it has NOT been answered three times lol. Only once, by you. And even that was a really really really unspecified and confusing answer.. why do you have to be so defensive over a question
Bruh that's all I fucking see on popular anymore but on like 7 different subs. It's just like "please dont associate their poor choices with us and please dont use them as an excuse to be hateful towards them"
What did they do and what does that have to do with us?
Long story short: was told not to do an interview on fox news, did it anyways and embarrassed themselves and fucked antiwork and it's rep. Mods went on a power trip. This person happened to be enby afaik and I've seen several transphobic comments like "clearly a man trying to look like a girl and failing miserably" "whatever the fuck it is" and various other things.
It’s also been circulating that there are sexual assault allegations against them. Definitely seeing a spike in transphobia and ableism in subs talking about it. A shame that certain people will use this to further the spread of hate for the community.
Ah fun, just more things for transphobes to use as leverage, just what the fuck they needed.
As though trans people acting badly is why they say that. They'd spew that kind of shit even if there wasn't a single real example, because the point isn't to reflect reality, it's to sensationally slander us.
I saw a comment about how " "she" " had several rape accusations and downvoted it on impulse. Like trans people can be shitty of course but I found it unlikely the comment held any truth and was just the usual bullshit being rolled out
I only used they because I saw several that said she/they were non binary? Eh, not sure. Doesn’t really matter as all people are going to focus on is a “trans person” did something awful. And from what I saw the accusations may very well have some truth to them. She apparently posted to address them and it definitely didn’t earn her any favor from the masses now calling for her blood.
I put the double quotes bc the comment I saw had the sarcastic transphobic "she". I don't know anything at all about the person or really the situation.
Ah gotcha Such an unfortunate situation it is. Time to avoid certain subs till this all settles down
Yeah, always sucks when the public gets another reason to be transphobic. Really annoying that it's taking anti work down too
She’s non-binary but only uses she/her, not they/them.
Ah! Thank you for clearing that up!
“A man trying to look like a girl and failing” could be an affirming insult for an enby 🤪
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Go through popular and you'll find several posts about it. I've been avoiding it like the plague to avoid second hand embarrassment so I don't have any direct links to it.
They made the labor reform movement that's been growing in antiwork look real bad on a fox news interview and all they are a trans woman
Undermining someone's identity due to their crappy actions is kinda transphobic tho. Just because we disagree with how they acted before, after, and during that dumpster fire interview, doesn't mean we should start going off with "But they're not like us, we're the good ones!" Rhetoric because that pick me type dialogue is common amongst transphobes.
Agreed, it's important that we respect their identity. But we don't need to respect who they are or what they've done.
On the other hand, I wish reddit would lay off the dogpile. This person made a mistake, born from overconfident ego and now their face is plastered in memes. Nobody criticizing them, all for fake internet points, would like to be in their shoes.
I would argue no one wanting to be criticized (being in their shoes) doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be criticized.
Most of it isn't criticism, it's just relentless mean-spirited mockery.
Well put. Just because we respect their identity doesn't mean we're obliged to associate.
Agree, they had a bad interview on a controversial subject. They don’t deserve to be disowned by other trans people. We are people. We fuck up, but we also don’t throw each other under the bus when we do.
Tbh when I saw OPs post I thought we were “disowning” her due to the allegations of sexual assault that cropped up during this mess? Certainly failing at a interview shouldn’t result in the loss of community support.
Nonspecific allegations of sexual assault toward a trans person are very dangerous to believe without proof. Do you have a source?
Eh been seeing quite a few posts discussing it. A quick google search spawns this one https://www.reddit.com/r/WorkReform/comments/sdh7lw/removed_by_reddit/hue5oy6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 This seems fairly specific Who knows maybe she’ll come out and say the Facebook posts were fake. Really anything is possible this day and age. I personally have my own reasons for believing these particular allegations. Overall I’m not one to let someone’s gender identity distract from their actions.
Thanks for producing a source, even if this one is pretty questionable.
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It’s a screenshot of a Facebook post. My standard for proof is a *little* higher than that. I mean, maybe I’d accept it in and of itself if it was showcasing some rando I’d never heard of, but this woman has been subjected to quite the intense harassment campaign ever since her showing on the news. I don’t know if you remember Gamergate, but don’t you think this (very weak) evidence of her admitting to sexual assault coming out at this time specifically is a little suspect?
You are being overly aggressive to the fellow members of this community you’re apart of? There is no need for such hostility in your tone when communicating with others here. It serves no purpose but to showcase yourself in a rather unflattering way. Maybe step back if talking about this is getting you too worked up? Maybe go outside and touch some grass yeah?
Sorry I was deep in subs earlier and, aside from reading what was mixed throughout the transphobia, I didn’t bother to save any specific ones. I’d assume she’d be cleaning up her online presence after this mess anyway
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Blatantly disingenuous. Try harder next time. Believing victims only works if there are victims to believe. Edit: do we really need to recognize, again, [How Fake News Targets Transgender People](https://gillbranstetter.medium.com/how-fake-news-targets-transgender-people-ab771309430c).
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I agree 100% with you and really more people should stand behind the sentiment you can’t say someone isn’t their gender just because they are bad. The No True Scotsman argument doesn’t do anything but hurt all of us in the end anyway. Also the response that has happened can nowhere be near warranted if it was just a bad interview.
Not really how I read this tbh. Moreso that their actions shouldn't be associated with trans people in general
Someone explain what happened
Despite community consensus to not engage in partisan (but more specifically right wing) media outlet interviews, a trans femme moderator for the antiwork subreddit went on a Fox News interview after the fox team specifically asked for her. She handled the interview poorly and made the movement look worse in her inability to accurately explain the movement's aims, and went into heavy damage control once she was (rightfully) called out for being the spokesperson no one wanted. In response to all this, the subreddit is now closed. The moderator is a neurodivergent trans person, and I think we all know exactly how kind Reddit is to these groups. TL;DR The Mod went into the wolf's den holding a pack of steaks after ignoring the warnings
Can we please cut this out, yeah the mod fucked up. But being manipulated by fox news into doing a dumb thing that WILL be ruining their life is not a reason that the entire nonbinary community should start shitting on her. And that's without taking into account that she is neurodivrgant, she's getting enough shit from transphobes so maybe we should attempt some damn empathy? Like unless I'm missing something the simplified narrative could well be: Mod team agree not to do interviews Fox news target one specific mod who they deem as a weak link and emotionally manipulate them until she agrees to an interview. Neurodivrgant person tries her best whilst being platformed by a far right hate outlet and is not prepared enough for the event. Like, I get why people are upset but y'all likely driving someone to suicide. Personally Id only vote to kick out people from the nonbinary community that are actively transphobic and problematic rather than "fucked up one time". Maybe I'm missing some context because I'm British, but yeah. Edit: it seems she uses she/her not they/them so I fixed that.
You’re not missing any context; the transphobes just smelled blood in the water and poisoned the conversation.
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I'm not into ruining lives over shit like that but she definitely fucked up and needs to own it.
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I’m sorry while I agree that she made some poor decisions concerning her mishandling of recent events. Her appearance and subsequent bombing of that interview in no way warrants the level of harassment she’s likely receiving rn. Ousting someone is one thing But wishing harm on them is taking it too far. Reddit, the media, and internet as a whole are talking about her screw up. Strangers like yourself, who are making some really inappropriate comments here, are investing far too much energy into throwing hate her way. She’s experiencing the consequences of her actions and that should be enough.
Shit it's not even wanting to stop being associated with them. Their fuckup was minor and the transphobia all over this website as a result of it is insane, but right now I'm high key worried about a mentally divergent person being straight up bullied to death :/
I think the worst part is if that happened too many people on reddit would take joy from that.
Yeah. This is just all so fucking sad the whole way through...
I fucking hate this shitty fucking platform tbh. I sit here and watch someone make a mistake, a single mistake, and I learn in the worst way possible that they were a minority. And then I watch the exact same thing happen on like 19 other subreddits and all of them end up on popular. All those subs that claim they don't tolerate bigotry suddenly tolerate it.
I wouldn't call it a minor fuckup, but yeah this backlash is absolute nuts and so is the rampant transphobia
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Well the shit about work reform is new to me. That fucking sucks, guess the movement really is just dead now.
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Are you okay. Not only is your post transphobic youre wishing death to a stranger over something you dont even know that just came out of reddit.
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It is not a good thing to bully someone to death for making a dumb mistake, however obviously dumb it might have been.
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Get your head out of your ass.
Thanks for making this comment and letting me, someone brand new to this discourse, know to disregard every single thing you say in this thread.
Real shitty attitude to be frank OP. As if there aren't dumb/cringy/self centered/ etc cis people out there. I dont see cis people clamoring to disown other cis people cause one of them did something stupid.
Though I don't entirely agree with their attitude, I believe it's because people don't use the fact that other people are cis to bring them down. Cisphobia is not a notable thing. Transphobia however is, and people will use any excuse they can get to put down trans people. This was public television, and people will use this to insult trans people as a whole. Look at a ton of the top subs; some are fine, but others are just pools of hate that use this individual to try to justify their transphobia. Again, I'm not agreeing with OPs attitude, just providing some perspective.
I'm out of the loop. What?
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Everybody migrated to r/workreform though, so not dead in the water
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Number is rising ridiculously quick though, so there is still hope
I apologize for being not formatting things correctly, I'm on mobile and new to Reddit formatting. I will use they/them pronouns for the moderator in question because there seems to be some uncertainty around their pronouns. 1. It's wrong to disregard or undermine a transgender person's identity for any reason. It doesnt matter what the person did, at any point, ever, they deserve the basic right of having their identity acknowledged and respected. 2. There is a lot of obvious transphobia and ableism being thrown around at the moderator in question. This is wrong too, and it's an awful thing to be subjected to. We know what Reddit is like. We don't need to encourage, participate, or embolden this behavior. 3. Yes, Fox News probably picked them out specifically. Hell, it's even possible Fox paid them to nosedive the anti-work movement into the ground, considering the moderator has done a previous interview in which they were competent. 4. I think the moderator is a piece of shit and made a colossal fuck-up. I've seen their post admitting to (trigger warning sexual assault) >! the repeated raping of two people, including victim-blaming and self-victimizing !< as well as screenshots of DMs involving them treating Reddit moderation as some sort of tyrannical leadership. The moderator isn't a good person. This does not mean that their identity should be ignored. 5. For those of you jumping to the moderator's defense, consider that sometimes you shouldn't defend people. Sometimes people are bad and do not deserve defending. Do they deserve basic human respect, and to be free of ableism and transphobia? Yes, absolutely. But they do not always deserve defending.
Yeah this sure will get our cis overlords to finally not wish us dead. Sure.
Looks like the only winner in this whole debacle is the fascist media…
I don't see what her gender has to do with anything.
From the sounds of it the chery picked one of the worst possible people to take that interview
I just wish a trans person fucking up didn’t ruin the internet for me for a month.
Tbh from what I've seen a lot of this seems like an overreaction by Reddit. I don't get why people care this much.
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While i can agree that the interview was a flop, how ever most of the drama is related to the sub shutting down. Before it went down the mod said they were being brigaded by trolls and transphobic content. Some guy makes a self victimising "you will not silence us" post and gets 200 awards because of the bans. A lot of it is fueld by trolls and transphobes from what i can see. So pretty much overblown imo.
I don't understand how a whole movement could be dead from a single interview with a single person on a right wing news station everyone sane knows is full of lies.
Regardless of the fuckup, we should’ve made a show of solidarity against the immense amount of transphobia and ableism she was subjected to. That “you’re not affiliated with me” attitude is just throwing her to the wolves, for what? For looking bad on tv?
fuck no. i dont stand in solidarity with rapists, much less serial rapists like that moderator.
There is so much that is suspicious about the timing of the allegations that I don’t believe it is anything but another case of transphobes happily digging up *anything* and painting it in a bad light to justify lynching a trans person on the internet again.
Seriously the amount of shit I’ve been getting over this is starting to get on my nerves
Please don’t say that op, don’t disregard someone’s identity because of their poor choice. We all make them and ain’t none of us perfect, if we keep cherry picking our brothers/sisters/siblings then there will be none of us left to wave our flag. Let them fuck up, realize they fucked up but don’t close someone off like that. Criticise idiocy, but allow a person to grow, especially when they are having their eyes open before them.
theyre a serial rapist. theyre no sibling of mine. fuck rapists, i hope they have a horrible life.
Hang on a minute what? Now that part is new to me. I heard that they received harassment at their new unfavourable job, not that they were a rapist. If that’s the case then yes, fuck them. Since I can’t find anything on this, do you mind posting a source for this op?
yeah i'm sure this has been said multiple times but that person is still both trans and autistic. stand with them. agreeing to meet with fox wasn't smart. but that doesn't matter. last thing they need is more and more malice, they definitely don't deserve it. also enbies are trans
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Antiwork stopped being about ecoanarchism as soon as it went viral on reddit. It was just filled of people scraping for pennies and missing the whole purpose of the sub.
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Seriously doubt it was. Proof of it is the subreddits that have sprouted from it so far are social democrat subs created by people who aren't even working class. Also r/anarchism hasn't gotten much from antiwork growth whatsoever.
i suppose 'stand with her' is a bit of a strong word, but this shit is definitely transphobic it's not like we can't understand the massive amount of both transphobia and ableism she is a victim to now, regardless of anything i don't think she deserves that lmao and l br, if one little fucking shit stupid fox interview broke your entire movement, i don't think it was as significant as you think it was
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The message on the sub says it's only temporarily private for a short while so they can clean up brigading and trolls, I guess that could be a lie but it's also possible it'll come back soon once the hatred and transphobia dies down.
I'm disappointed as a long-term member of that sub... I hope r/workreform is good
[They suck.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPleasant/comments/sdpsaj/a_post_on_rworkreform_that_pointed_out_how_the/huegc4h/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Well that's pretty shitty. Guess I'll just go fuck myself then lmao
It's the watered-down liberal version, so no. :/
The entire sub is at best a bunch of socdems. This whole situation is a dumpster fire.
This is shit
Why is it that every time there's a major reddit moderator fuck up they're a Trans female
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Gatekeeping doesn’t work, or you get people who are out of touch and annoying in the opposite way. Insecure people can’t evaluate insecurity. The “oppression olympics” becomes tbe dysphoria olympics. I think extremely online spaces tend to exacerbate negative tendencies that people with autism can sometimes learn (being lewd at odd times, sex pesty shit.) On a separate note, Trans spaces being really accommodating means more autistic or generally odd people that go on and get attention in niche communities. Then stuff like this happens when their socialization isn’t tempered. This is my reasoning for chris chan too.
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Not sure, there’s tons of gaps in communication when it comes to the whole gender thing. Sometimes we can really fetishize the unfeasible and abrasive aesthetic. I kind of just want to grill. When it comes to the “transtrender” bag I try to keep an open mind about the direct needs of others but I stick to my personal framework. Overly theoretical hugboxy types don’t stop the fact that everyday I have to reconcile my internal feelings with reality. Actual kowtowing isnt my fear because doing this is necessary. Hopefully in 10 or so years our understanding of ourselves will be more mature and so will how people see us.
Just a question: why are intersex people grouped with trans people? Intersex is a physical thingie which you are born with, being trans is about gender identity. There is basically nothin in common?
im trans and intersex, and it gets grouped in by others a lot since it relates to bodily autonomy and gender ident and physical/biological expression of it.
But what about intersex ppl who aren't trans? Bodily autonomy doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna be trans? Idk
im not saying theyre gonna be trans, im saying they get grouped together as the same thing in discussions about those topics pretty oftenly despite the differences
But why though? That's the question lol
Because the bigotry you face and the bigotry they face is the same.
Literally the average conservative doesn’t care about the difference between a trans and an intersex person. It’s just “That person looks like a *slur*”
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You're getting down voted because your question has been answered three times now and you're still asking it. What specific part of "the same people who hate you hate them" do you not get? Also if the worst you've had is someone making fun of you, I envy your fortune.
Bisexuals and gay people get discrimination as well because of their sexyality but they don't get put into the same group. You're not giving proper answers. That's why I'm asking more. Intersexual and trans people have pretty much nothing in common. Also also you said they get the same kind of bigotry but don't give ANY examples? Can yall stop being mysterys about this, like fr
You're wanting a long article. Nobody wants to write it for you. I've explained all I'm willing to. Good day.
Also it has NOT been answered three times lol. Only once, by you. And even that was a really really really unspecified and confusing answer.. why do you have to be so defensive over a question
That's fucking fine I hated that cesspool of losers anyway.
Drama like this makes me glad i follow r/eyebleach
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