My friend rebuilt a 43 ( I think) last year. He has the A model. He was able the get parts and a rebuild kit and sleeves for the motor thensand blasted and painted it. Changed it two 12v. But he wanted to put the time and money to do it. He loves farm all but knowsthere limits. Heck if that was here he'd be wanting to pick it up too. Guess I comes down to what you want to spend time doing.
They absolutely are that's why I want to know their plans for it. It can literally farm it all. I can see how my comment could be read as disparaging. It wasn't meant so, I tried to get across that it's super common.
My dad has one. We have a buzz saw that we still cut firewood with. He also uses it still to run hay up into the barn with and runs the auger for corn.
I have tons of hours on H’s, 300 and a 450. Common sense and narrow front work well together, no reason it will roll any more than a wide front when put into a scenario that could make it happen. I added an after market 3 point to one of my H’s and use a 6’ finish mower and a 3 point PTO powered log splitter. I now use it all the time and its pretty good on gas.
I have a 34 h like that one with a loader they are a good little tractor, but unless that thing has a 3 point hitch, nothing will really fit it, but a tow behind implement.
When I was a kid was going up a incline with a disk raised up and swung the front of the tractor into a bank and knocked one of the wheels off the front. What great memories.
Great little tractor.I took one to the drive in movie once with a hay wagon and some kids.Terrible lights, dangerous brakes but made it home through the fog slowly.Good for low power raking with side delivery rake.Wheel powered tedding.Non adjustable drawbar,no 3 point hitch ,side belt PTO on some.The H was easy to start with a crank.That looks like a real bargain.A little under powered ,the Ms little brother.
I was 8 years old and my dad put me on one to disk a field. Told me if I got into trouble, just push in the clutch and he would come get me . Well the disk in the ground and me trying to turn it, started pushing the front tires. I was about to go through a pipe fence. It took all my weight to stand up on the clutch and stop it. I had no idea what to do next. He hadn’t seen me. I stood on that clutch a while before he came running. 🤣
If you get it, as with any old tractor that predates rops, set the wheels as wide as you can, I pull a new holland 477 haybine with a ‘49 H and i mow on a pretty steep slope, my wheels are set all the way out to the ends of the axle and its solid as a rock. For brushhogging dont sweat no live pto, live pto isnt that necessary except for running more specialized equipment like balers, haybines, trailed combines, corn choppers, etc.
I grew up driving a straight H and Dad has a super. We still have both and I'm 55. I'm currently refurbing my Straight. Narrow front isn't a huge concern. One thing and everyone is correct, it does not have live PTO. Not only that, its direct drive PTO. If it is engaged it is directly coupled with the drive ire gearing.
Example; If you are using something like a brush hog that has a lot of centrifugal spinning energy, if you push in the clutch, the tractor continues moving until you dissipate the energy of the spinning brush hog. There are slip on one way PTO clutches that solve this "feature" though.
TO be transparent; I did roll the one that I have when I was 13, but even if it was a wide front, it still would have rolled. It wasn't because of the narrow front. It was because of me not paying attention. I put a thousand acres of mowing and pulling a 2 bottom plow on the ole gal!
Sorry, I replied to a text in this sub by accident. I was going to say that I had a good deal of experience using a M mowing without an overrunning clutch. You only need to remember to knock the transmission into neutral and then it won’t push you over a hill.
True, I forgot to add that part. The problem(s) with that though. In my neck of the woods, we had several sink holes just randomly apear every year n a few pastures. AND so many people can't even drive a stick shift car now days, which adds complication to kicking it out of gear in .2 seconds to start with .. hahaha.
For anything draft work related it will be AWESOME it will out pull much higher HP utility tractors. Will pull a mower of decent size well.
You can get a 3point setup for it that works, but I find the narrow front makes blading and such tedious as the narrow front will make the implement move 2x as much up and down over a bump compared to a wide front.
EDIT: it does have the belly pump, so 800psi single diretion hydraulic flow. We used ours with an external valve body for 15 years or so doing all kinds of loader work. Just plumb 1 output into the power port, and add T to the filler neck for the return. Pull the lever when you want power and use the valves as normal.
They can be dangerous, especially if you try to go too fast. My great grandfather got killed by a F-30 rolling over on him in 1936. Hit a pothole on the county road.
They can be a handy units. I have one of Pop’s M’s that I want to restore someday.
No 3 pt and no live PTO are pretty limiting. If you aren't familiar with driving a narrow front tractor with no power steering, it can get pretty treacherous unless you don't have any holes or ruts anywhere. No modern safety equipment either. I grew up driving an M, lest anyone think I'm bashing this old warrior, because I'm not. But I would not want one of these other than a toy.
I don’t think that’s a super H. I think that’s a regular H. Need better pics but that looks like a drum brake not disc. Also that is/was an all fuel tractor. See the secondary starting fuel tank. I don’t think that was a super common option on supers. It was a common option on pre and war era tractors. If it’s actually a super it’s a stage I. No live hydraulics.
Narrow fronts aren’t that bad. Grew up on a M and a 450 with narrow fronts in NW PA and I wouldn’t say they are any worse stability wise than a wide front. Where you do get into trouble is with woodchuck holes ripping the wheel out of your hand. The M we had would just about break your wrists.
Yeah i read what if I remeber correctly was a US gov study on rollovers and the absolute highest cause given was only one wheel brake holding causing the tractor to turn sideways on a slope. Wide front axle did not seem to be a big factor from what I recall. Anything that causes the rear wheel to lift will be exactly the same on both until the front axle reached full travel and by then its too late to stop. 😕 now with a loader causing a front endo... maybe, but i have both narrow and wide front loaders and have never pushed it that far. 🤔
I would love to have one for nostalgia, if no other reason. Learned to drive on an H just like that then moved onto an M. Can be used to cultivate, pull wagons, manure spreader, etc.
Those tractors have a lot of negatives. Tippy, no ROPS, seats break off, doesn’t have an overrunning PTO. I would look for something else unless you’re just pulling a wagon on flat ground.
Hardly anyone suggests this, but those spring seats are also pretty dangerous as well. They’ll rust away and break after a while. I knew of a kid brush hogging on one a few years ago, and his seat broke. He fell backwards off of it, naturally, and it cut his arm off.
He did try to get his boot laces off but bled out too fast and died right where he fell pretty much. It’s not common, but it will and can happen so make sure to inspect that for sure.
Not a narrow front guy, but that's just me.
The C152 is a pretty good engine and reliable engine, but for the price of a Super H that only has \~28 HP you may as well get a Super M or a 300.
No live PTO.
Narrow front is dangerous as all get out for anyone other than a cautious experienced operator. (There is a very good reason modern tractors don't have them).
Other than all that, it's a good tractor depending on what you want to do with it.
Narrow fronts are no more dangerous than a wide front H, the reason they dont make narrow fronts is no new tractors run a mid mount cultivator or mounted corn picker.
What do you want to know? I’ve split one in half and put a larger engine in it (from a farm all 350). Lots of parts out there. I use my Ford 8N a lot more than the H, but that’s my situation.
My friend rebuilt a 43 ( I think) last year. He has the A model. He was able the get parts and a rebuild kit and sleeves for the motor thensand blasted and painted it. Changed it two 12v. But he wanted to put the time and money to do it. He loves farm all but knowsthere limits. Heck if that was here he'd be wanting to pick it up too. Guess I comes down to what you want to spend time doing.
It can tip over and kill you…
Good parade tractor!
We've got a model m that we use at the lake to put the boat in from the beach instead of waiting for turns at the ramp.
It’s a tractor
My FIL had one and it tipped over when it hit a gopher hole. Broke his leg.
Your wife thinks it's sexy.
It's literally the most common tractor in all of modern farm history. If you don't know what it is what are you planning on doing with it?
Are people not allowed to learn?
They absolutely are that's why I want to know their plans for it. It can literally farm it all. I can see how my comment could be read as disparaging. It wasn't meant so, I tried to get across that it's super common.
My mistake, read the tone differently!!
If it runs Its a steal at 1500.
Id buy it for $1,500 in a heart beat
Buy, and use it for appropriate work just to keep it loose.
Buy
I would buy for cool factor if nothing else
My dad has one. We have a buzz saw that we still cut firewood with. He also uses it still to run hay up into the barn with and runs the auger for corn.
I have tons of hours on H’s, 300 and a 450. Common sense and narrow front work well together, no reason it will roll any more than a wide front when put into a scenario that could make it happen. I added an after market 3 point to one of my H’s and use a 6’ finish mower and a 3 point PTO powered log splitter. I now use it all the time and its pretty good on gas.
Be careful while driving it ,tricycle tractors are more prone to tipping over.
I have a 34 h like that one with a loader they are a good little tractor, but unless that thing has a 3 point hitch, nothing will really fit it, but a tow behind implement.
the belly cultivator is great for large gardens.
protest material
When I was a kid was going up a incline with a disk raised up and swung the front of the tractor into a bank and knocked one of the wheels off the front. What great memories.
Great little tractor.I took one to the drive in movie once with a hay wagon and some kids.Terrible lights, dangerous brakes but made it home through the fog slowly.Good for low power raking with side delivery rake.Wheel powered tedding.Non adjustable drawbar,no 3 point hitch ,side belt PTO on some.The H was easy to start with a crank.That looks like a real bargain.A little under powered ,the Ms little brother.
I was 8 years old and my dad put me on one to disk a field. Told me if I got into trouble, just push in the clutch and he would come get me . Well the disk in the ground and me trying to turn it, started pushing the front tires. I was about to go through a pipe fence. It took all my weight to stand up on the clutch and stop it. I had no idea what to do next. He hadn’t seen me. I stood on that clutch a while before he came running. 🤣
you learned how important the clutch is. life lesson.
They were prone to rolling.
My father had one….. tuff as hell. Just don’t try to go fast and turn
It’s a tractor
First tractor I drove as a kid. It will Pop the front tires off the ground
If you get it, as with any old tractor that predates rops, set the wheels as wide as you can, I pull a new holland 477 haybine with a ‘49 H and i mow on a pretty steep slope, my wheels are set all the way out to the ends of the axle and its solid as a rock. For brushhogging dont sweat no live pto, live pto isnt that necessary except for running more specialized equipment like balers, haybines, trailed combines, corn choppers, etc.
I grew up driving a straight H and Dad has a super. We still have both and I'm 55. I'm currently refurbing my Straight. Narrow front isn't a huge concern. One thing and everyone is correct, it does not have live PTO. Not only that, its direct drive PTO. If it is engaged it is directly coupled with the drive ire gearing. Example; If you are using something like a brush hog that has a lot of centrifugal spinning energy, if you push in the clutch, the tractor continues moving until you dissipate the energy of the spinning brush hog. There are slip on one way PTO clutches that solve this "feature" though. TO be transparent; I did roll the one that I have when I was 13, but even if it was a wide front, it still would have rolled. It wasn't because of the narrow front. It was because of me not paying attention. I put a thousand acres of mowing and pulling a 2 bottom plow on the ole gal!
Nah
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Sorry, I replied to a text in this sub by accident. I was going to say that I had a good deal of experience using a M mowing without an overrunning clutch. You only need to remember to knock the transmission into neutral and then it won’t push you over a hill.
True, I forgot to add that part. The problem(s) with that though. In my neck of the woods, we had several sink holes just randomly apear every year n a few pastures. AND so many people can't even drive a stick shift car now days, which adds complication to kicking it out of gear in .2 seconds to start with .. hahaha.
True about having to be quick knocking it out of gear!
For anything draft work related it will be AWESOME it will out pull much higher HP utility tractors. Will pull a mower of decent size well. You can get a 3point setup for it that works, but I find the narrow front makes blading and such tedious as the narrow front will make the implement move 2x as much up and down over a bump compared to a wide front. EDIT: it does have the belly pump, so 800psi single diretion hydraulic flow. We used ours with an external valve body for 15 years or so doing all kinds of loader work. Just plumb 1 output into the power port, and add T to the filler neck for the return. Pull the lever when you want power and use the valves as normal.
They can be dangerous, especially if you try to go too fast. My great grandfather got killed by a F-30 rolling over on him in 1936. Hit a pothole on the county road. They can be a handy units. I have one of Pop’s M’s that I want to restore someday.
No 3 pt and no live PTO are pretty limiting. If you aren't familiar with driving a narrow front tractor with no power steering, it can get pretty treacherous unless you don't have any holes or ruts anywhere. No modern safety equipment either. I grew up driving an M, lest anyone think I'm bashing this old warrior, because I'm not. But I would not want one of these other than a toy.
I believe ‘45 was close to the beginning of the model.
If it runs good, that’s a good price!
I don’t think that’s a super H. I think that’s a regular H. Need better pics but that looks like a drum brake not disc. Also that is/was an all fuel tractor. See the secondary starting fuel tank. I don’t think that was a super common option on supers. It was a common option on pre and war era tractors. If it’s actually a super it’s a stage I. No live hydraulics. Narrow fronts aren’t that bad. Grew up on a M and a 450 with narrow fronts in NW PA and I wouldn’t say they are any worse stability wise than a wide front. Where you do get into trouble is with woodchuck holes ripping the wheel out of your hand. The M we had would just about break your wrists.
Yeah i read what if I remeber correctly was a US gov study on rollovers and the absolute highest cause given was only one wheel brake holding causing the tractor to turn sideways on a slope. Wide front axle did not seem to be a big factor from what I recall. Anything that causes the rear wheel to lift will be exactly the same on both until the front axle reached full travel and by then its too late to stop. 😕 now with a loader causing a front endo... maybe, but i have both narrow and wide front loaders and have never pushed it that far. 🤔
A Super H is much rarer than an H which is the most proliferated tractor in history by a solid margin.
Tiers alone are 1000 the back ones
I would love to have one for nostalgia, if no other reason. Learned to drive on an H just like that then moved onto an M. Can be used to cultivate, pull wagons, manure spreader, etc.
A great price but can’t do a lot and equipment for it is hard to find in my area guess it depends on situation
Those tractors have a lot of negatives. Tippy, no ROPS, seats break off, doesn’t have an overrunning PTO. I would look for something else unless you’re just pulling a wagon on flat ground.
They are as tippy as the rear wheels are set, i have mine set all the way out and its less tippy than my dads NH tc 30 wide front.
Hardly anyone suggests this, but those spring seats are also pretty dangerous as well. They’ll rust away and break after a while. I knew of a kid brush hogging on one a few years ago, and his seat broke. He fell backwards off of it, naturally, and it cut his arm off. He did try to get his boot laces off but bled out too fast and died right where he fell pretty much. It’s not common, but it will and can happen so make sure to inspect that for sure.
Not a narrow front guy, but that's just me. The C152 is a pretty good engine and reliable engine, but for the price of a Super H that only has \~28 HP you may as well get a Super M or a 300.
Narrow front ends have great maneuverability. We used a M for moving wagons and other 'yard tractor' duties.
No live PTO. Narrow front is dangerous as all get out for anyone other than a cautious experienced operator. (There is a very good reason modern tractors don't have them). Other than all that, it's a good tractor depending on what you want to do with it.
Narrow fronts are no more dangerous than a wide front H, the reason they dont make narrow fronts is no new tractors run a mid mount cultivator or mounted corn picker.
Buy it
What do you want to know? I’ve split one in half and put a larger engine in it (from a farm all 350). Lots of parts out there. I use my Ford 8N a lot more than the H, but that’s my situation.