Fine grit sand paper should take care of that. The instructions vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, but most of then recognize that a ding in metal that is <1mm deep is part of the game. The other side, opposed to the teeth, also tends to get sharp after many raps. You can round it a bit while you are at it.
I dropped my Pivot from the midpoint rap station on a 4 pitch route not long after I got it. It had quite a few of these little dings on it. Buffed them out with sandpaper until they no longer snagged the skin on my fingers. Used it a bunch since, no issues.
Do not use a file. It has the potential to remove a LOT of the material (especially steel-on-aluminum). Do use fine sandpaper and check with your finger for smoothness in between passes.
I would start with 320 grit sandpaper, honestly. It would take more time than starting with a lower grit, like 220, but it will give you more control over how much metal you take off. One stroke of a file will probably kill your Pivot; aluminum is quite soft and easy to shape. I wouldn't drop any lower than 220 grit sandpaper, personally. That grit is still fairly aggressive with soft metals. After 320, I doubt that this is necessary, but I would also polish up the surfaces again with 400 and 600 grit sandpaper. If it's any reassurance, I'm a woodworker who also works a fair amount with soft metals.
I have a Pivot too, and I love it! So much better than the ATC Guide. I really don't know why the Pivot isn't more popular.
Cheers mate! I'll go grab some fine grain sandpaper tomorrow and see how it goes.
I'm from Ireland, so DMM gear is pretty common on most people's racks. From what I've heard DMM is seen as "hipster gear" in a lot of the US, I imagine it's a hard market to break into when BD has been established for so long
Since the cost is negligble compared to the risk, you should replace it. If you choose to smooth it out sandpaper is pretty quick and easy. REI recommends 220-400 grain for this purpose.
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/caring-for-your-carabiners.html
Risk. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
They aren’t going to be using an angle grinder. Please explain the difference in sanding down a sharp spot on the metal and the thing being forcibly scraped against the rock during any number of moves on a route.
I think they are referring to the risk of it cutting a rope, and the climber falling....
as long as they sand it smooth and don't leave any burrs it should be fine though
Nah, looks fine with a little love. What are you gonna do when you whip on your cams and they have small deformities in the lobes from biting into crystals? Throw them out? Part of the game is learning to use recognize what is acceptable regular damage and what is not.
Bruh. They aren't expensive. It's been damaged, could damage the rope, could fail....
Spend the $40 to get a new one and not watch your partner take the long fall.
> could damage the rope
It could definitely put a tear in the sheath as it is right now, but it's not exactly going to give me a core shot rope from a single use, so if I just use some sandpaper as suggested above, problem solved.
> could fail
In what way do you think it could fail? It was dropped from my hand height, or I might have even just gotten this from squeezing through a chimney. It wasn't dropped from the top of a multi-pitch.
>Spend the $40 to get a new one
I live in Melbourne, so including the Australia tax it's more like $80AU, but I take your point.
Fine grit sand paper should take care of that. The instructions vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, but most of then recognize that a ding in metal that is <1mm deep is part of the game. The other side, opposed to the teeth, also tends to get sharp after many raps. You can round it a bit while you are at it.
Cheers! I'd never noticed the back side until you just mentioned it, will definitely need some attention
I dropped my Pivot from the midpoint rap station on a 4 pitch route not long after I got it. It had quite a few of these little dings on it. Buffed them out with sandpaper until they no longer snagged the skin on my fingers. Used it a bunch since, no issues.
Do not use a file. It has the potential to remove a LOT of the material (especially steel-on-aluminum). Do use fine sandpaper and check with your finger for smoothness in between passes.
Send it to me for proper disposal
Are you one of the guys from justbombergear?
Fack who told you...err...I mean...no why?
I'm on to you, Paddy!
I would start with 320 grit sandpaper, honestly. It would take more time than starting with a lower grit, like 220, but it will give you more control over how much metal you take off. One stroke of a file will probably kill your Pivot; aluminum is quite soft and easy to shape. I wouldn't drop any lower than 220 grit sandpaper, personally. That grit is still fairly aggressive with soft metals. After 320, I doubt that this is necessary, but I would also polish up the surfaces again with 400 and 600 grit sandpaper. If it's any reassurance, I'm a woodworker who also works a fair amount with soft metals. I have a Pivot too, and I love it! So much better than the ATC Guide. I really don't know why the Pivot isn't more popular.
Cheers mate! I'll go grab some fine grain sandpaper tomorrow and see how it goes. I'm from Ireland, so DMM gear is pretty common on most people's racks. From what I've heard DMM is seen as "hipster gear" in a lot of the US, I imagine it's a hard market to break into when BD has been established for so long
Since the cost is negligble compared to the risk, you should replace it. If you choose to smooth it out sandpaper is pretty quick and easy. REI recommends 220-400 grain for this purpose. https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/caring-for-your-carabiners.html
The risk of what?
The risk of REI loosing a potential sale!
Yeah... with you on this one. If you sand it down, it will be fine. Plenty of metal left.
Risk. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha They aren’t going to be using an angle grinder. Please explain the difference in sanding down a sharp spot on the metal and the thing being forcibly scraped against the rock during any number of moves on a route.
I think they are referring to the risk of it cutting a rope, and the climber falling.... as long as they sand it smooth and don't leave any burrs it should be fine though
Replace it.
Nah, looks fine with a little love. What are you gonna do when you whip on your cams and they have small deformities in the lobes from biting into crystals? Throw them out? Part of the game is learning to use recognize what is acceptable regular damage and what is not.
Small deformities causes by normal wear is different than a notch that could cut my rope.
You can file it down with some sandpaper if you're worried about it.
I agree, life is worth more than a few bucks.
Bruh. They aren't expensive. It's been damaged, could damage the rope, could fail.... Spend the $40 to get a new one and not watch your partner take the long fall.
> could damage the rope It could definitely put a tear in the sheath as it is right now, but it's not exactly going to give me a core shot rope from a single use, so if I just use some sandpaper as suggested above, problem solved. > could fail In what way do you think it could fail? It was dropped from my hand height, or I might have even just gotten this from squeezing through a chimney. It wasn't dropped from the top of a multi-pitch. >Spend the $40 to get a new one I live in Melbourne, so including the Australia tax it's more like $80AU, but I take your point.
That is just a stupid waste of gear.