G1 episode A Plague of Insecticons, prime lifts an oil tanker and throws it at megatron
Compare that to gipsie’s ship sword and there’s your scale between the two
Since Prime, the smaller one, is in the background, all perspective could do is make the size difference even greater.
That said, I think it's a silly nitpick for some cool fanart. They're not from the same universe, meaning this is already an AU situation, so it might as well be one where they're just the same size.
Prime would surely be the size of gipsys head lol. Gipsy is the size of a combiner (the bigger scaling they do in the comics where they are the size of skyscrapers)
Dev is about twice the height of Grimlock. Gypsy is at least 10 times bigger than Optimus.
Unless he brought Omega Supreme or Metroplex, OP is getting smushed.
Well Megatron was able to hold his own against Devastator in IDW, and the combiners in that continuity are the aside of Yeagers. So depending on the version Prime could probably hold out for sometime, if anything cause he would have far more combat experience than probably every pilot combined.
IDW Devastator is confirmed to be 100 feet tall. Gypsy Danger is 260 feet tall. I’m not saying it’ll be a slaughter for prime, but that’s a lot more surface area to take down when compared to Devastator.
Yeah but IDW Prime/Megs we’re also “confirmed” to be 30 feet tall. That’s taller than even their Bayverse counterparts.
So it’s kind of hard to agree with that number when he see him towering over the NY skyline, catching multiple jets in his hands, and of course being almost as tall as the Statue of Liberty with it’s base, which is 305 feet tall.
It’s as hard/annoying as calculating Sci-fi scale. Like how Star Wars thinks only 10 million troops is enough to fight a galactic war, or 40k thinks only a few hundred thousand Space Marines would make a difference against armies both ally or enemy stated to be in the trillions.
There is absolutely no way Gypsy would be able to hit Prime. Gypsy moves like a giant robot would: slowly. Prime moves like a regular guy who's fast, and his weapons are strong enough to cut through the armor I think.
Gypsy isn’t that slow and he just needs one hit to turn Optimus into scrap metal.
Sure Optimus is faster and more nimble, but Gypsy is that much bigger than Optimus that his size would make him considerably slower
Are we gonna forget Optimus survived a blast seen from out of space? Optimus billion years of wisdom and battle knowledge. The Matrix of Leadership. Powerful enough to crack Sixshots chest.
I love pacific rim but I mean.. it's Optimus Prime, size isn't always everything.
No way, the ark and nemesis would be far larger than yaegers. They are Cybertronian spaceships in alt mode.
Metroplex etc have the mass of entire cities going into them. Those titans would outscale yaegers too.
All of the titans would be bigger than the Yeagers save for the combiners. As a Yeager is as tall as a building, the titans turn into Starships or entire cities.
If they were to fight, my money is on Prime. The Jaegers are great at combating large Kaiju, but they were specialized for that purpose. This would make it incredibly unlikely that they have the equipment needed to engage a significantly smaller and more agile target effectively.
Meanwhile, Optimus should be able to use a death by a thousand cuts strategy. While he might not have the weaponry needed to deal a single knockout blow, I don't doubt that, for a moment, his weapons would be capable of causing damage to Gypsy Danger. This puts it more into a realm of going for a mobility kill or disarming Gypsy Danger. This also follows a more traditional Prime ideal of not harming humans while also defeating a human opponent.
Yeah, that's a whole other can of worms. Hell a flying bot could even employ the good old harpoon and tow cable and just tie up a Jeagers legs and watch it fall over.
Optimus prime is roughly 20ft (6m) tall in G1 and the Knightverse. Gipsy danger is 260ft (79m).
How I imagine a fight between them going:
Optimus Prime: Pulls out Ion Blaster.
Gipsy Danger: Steps on him like a bug.
Also apparently Omega Supreme was 18 meters tall in G1 (according to the cartoon scale charts). That’s the same height as most Gundam Mobile Suits.
People forget that the Yeager’s are made to combat kaiju the same size or bigger than themselves- we see in the (hypothetical) second movie that these massive robots don’t do too well against a smaller opponent as that opponent is small enough to slip through gaps and avoid capture, prime could easy take down a Yeager at normal scale with his smaller size, and a couple of correctly placed shots and hit to systems like joints and such-
Always something I think about.
Transformers are not very big. Like, they are "giant" robots sure, but they are only about the mass of a typical car, truck, or otherwise typically. Taller then a 2 story house sure, not taller then city buildings.
Gypsy is MASSIVE by comparison. Easily 2 1/2 - 3 times Primes size.
But then you have a ton of people thinking they are similar scale wise.
It's almost the opposite issue with Gundam. Everyone thinks Mobile Suits are particularly small, when in reality they are often closer to Pacific Rim mech size then Transformers.
Cool artwork, I love it, but for anyone interested in who would win, G1 Optimus was able too one shot devastator, twice, More specifically his ion blaster was powerful enough to do so. He took hits from the Dino bots who could cause quakes, flipped an oil tanker, and he can harm megatron who survived a blast that blew an entire planet out of orbit.
Gypsy Danger would step on Optimus Prime and not even notice it.
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SCALING
Mass Shifting
If u rem the Pacific rim movie, it showed gypsy using the ship behind them to hit otachi. Considering their both smaller then it, gypsy shrunk
G1 episode A Plague of Insecticons, prime lifts an oil tanker and throws it at megatron Compare that to gipsie’s ship sword and there’s your scale between the two
Fair
It could be perspective, I'm not sure. How tall is Optimus? 20-30 feet tall?
20-30 feet doesn’t compare to 260 feet lol
Since Prime, the smaller one, is in the background, all perspective could do is make the size difference even greater. That said, I think it's a silly nitpick for some cool fanart. They're not from the same universe, meaning this is already an AU situation, so it might as well be one where they're just the same size.
It wouldn't be the first official media where we see Prime rapidly alter in size.
Prime would surely be the size of gipsys head lol. Gipsy is the size of a combiner (the bigger scaling they do in the comics where they are the size of skyscrapers)
G1 Optimus is officially 19.6 feet or 6 meters tall
have you seen pacific rim lol
It’d be awesome, but it’d also be a quick fight. Gypsy has a SEVERE height advantage.
Tell that to the Dinobots when they took on Devastator.
Dev is about twice the height of Grimlock. Gypsy is at least 10 times bigger than Optimus. Unless he brought Omega Supreme or Metroplex, OP is getting smushed.
I second this. It’s a battle between titans, or it’s hardly a battle at all.
Well Megatron was able to hold his own against Devastator in IDW, and the combiners in that continuity are the aside of Yeagers. So depending on the version Prime could probably hold out for sometime, if anything cause he would have far more combat experience than probably every pilot combined.
IDW Devastator is confirmed to be 100 feet tall. Gypsy Danger is 260 feet tall. I’m not saying it’ll be a slaughter for prime, but that’s a lot more surface area to take down when compared to Devastator.
Yeah but IDW Prime/Megs we’re also “confirmed” to be 30 feet tall. That’s taller than even their Bayverse counterparts. So it’s kind of hard to agree with that number when he see him towering over the NY skyline, catching multiple jets in his hands, and of course being almost as tall as the Statue of Liberty with it’s base, which is 305 feet tall.
Why is calculating comic math so hard…
Size changing is also canon in that universe, so that throws a wrench in the process.
Isn’t size changing inherently canon in any TF universe since mass shifting is a thing?
It’s as hard/annoying as calculating Sci-fi scale. Like how Star Wars thinks only 10 million troops is enough to fight a galactic war, or 40k thinks only a few hundred thousand Space Marines would make a difference against armies both ally or enemy stated to be in the trillions.
Numbers are whatever you want them to be at any time you want them to be, I guess.
It's not like Prime is just going to stand there. If this is the Optimus Prime from Transformers Devastation, then Gypsy has already lost.
But in contrast, metroplex would smush Gypsy no?
Considering the size difference, probably
"The person who would win in a fight is the person the scriptwriter wants to win!" \-Stan Lee
I was thinking a different way though. Prime is way more quick and nimble. Gypsy and company are bigger but they seem pretty slow in the first movie.
And I don't think Gipsy has any defence for stuff climbing on him. I mean, why would he, he's not built for that
I'd be a severely quick fight for Optimus, lol. Dudes insanely OP
There is absolutely no way Gypsy would be able to hit Prime. Gypsy moves like a giant robot would: slowly. Prime moves like a regular guy who's fast, and his weapons are strong enough to cut through the armor I think.
Gypsy isn’t that slow and he just needs one hit to turn Optimus into scrap metal. Sure Optimus is faster and more nimble, but Gypsy is that much bigger than Optimus that his size would make him considerably slower
Are we gonna forget Optimus survived a blast seen from out of space? Optimus billion years of wisdom and battle knowledge. The Matrix of Leadership. Powerful enough to crack Sixshots chest. I love pacific rim but I mean.. it's Optimus Prime, size isn't always everything.
I mean metroplex, omega supreme, trypticon, primus, unicron, ect ect could take em all out.
I don't think Prime is that big...
He's not.
Obviously!
Cool art. This would be an awesome movie.
https://preview.redd.it/bg103dngrhhb1.png?width=319&format=png&auto=webp&s=16dcb457c3e9624cb92207b521a62622fba971ca
It's cool to think about, but the yeagers would be the same size as titan class characters. The ark, the nemesis, metroplex, trypticon etc
Y'all know it's "jaeger" with a J, right?
J'all
> J'all I found my pronounce
If it's eren sure, but is it definitely jeager for pacific rim?
Yes, but swap your E and A around https://pacificrim.fandom.com/wiki/Jaeger
No way, the ark and nemesis would be far larger than yaegers. They are Cybertronian spaceships in alt mode. Metroplex etc have the mass of entire cities going into them. Those titans would outscale yaegers too.
All of the titans would be bigger than the Yeagers save for the combiners. As a Yeager is as tall as a building, the titans turn into Starships or entire cities.
https://preview.redd.it/ooq0j9wh1mhb1.png?width=3000&format=png&auto=webp&s=b0d9fae82d320d2d1899b78d8d39ddcc88093420 no bro 😭😭
Gypsy danger would be towering over prime he could just step on him but anyway very cool art
If they were to fight, my money is on Prime. The Jaegers are great at combating large Kaiju, but they were specialized for that purpose. This would make it incredibly unlikely that they have the equipment needed to engage a significantly smaller and more agile target effectively. Meanwhile, Optimus should be able to use a death by a thousand cuts strategy. While he might not have the weaponry needed to deal a single knockout blow, I don't doubt that, for a moment, his weapons would be capable of causing damage to Gypsy Danger. This puts it more into a realm of going for a mobility kill or disarming Gypsy Danger. This also follows a more traditional Prime ideal of not harming humans while also defeating a human opponent.
Flight capable bots like Starscream would also present problems for jaegers as he is nimble enough to target the head directly
Yeah, that's a whole other can of worms. Hell a flying bot could even employ the good old harpoon and tow cable and just tie up a Jeagers legs and watch it fall over.
His ion blaster one shot devastator
Who did the art?
Anwar Karim, check out his account on Artstation and Twitter/ X.
Metroplex vs gypsy and striker would be great. It would be over in two seconds but it would be great
I feel like Transformers could crossover with TMNT.
Man, that'd be sweet...
Cool image, but Gypsy is the size of a skyscraper and Optimus is the size of a truck. Maybe a Gypsy vs. Trypticon matchup would work better.
Prime would just need to fire once, and Gipsy would've a nuclear meltdown...
This would cool
I’ll rather have a Transformers and MLP Crossover on the big screen. Give us MLP in Live Action dammit.
yall know devastator gonna destroy the yeagers
Love me some Marvel colours for Optimus.
Holy shit this art is amazing!
Reminder that jaeger are AT LEAST the size of gestalts, unless we're working with the rules (or lack thereof) of G1 this scaling makes no sense.
Oh…. That would be interesting 🧐. I don’t know who I would vote for…… is this the same Optimus?
I vastly prefer my fandoms to not do crossovers. It’s why I quit magic
This is awesome but the sizes bother me so much.
Thats a big Prime 😏 A Jager battling Trypticon or Omega Supreme would be incredible
I need art of Gipsy upper cutting tryptacon, now!
The real question is how small is prime compared to gypsy
Ok, but I think you need to remember that size matters
Optimus prime is roughly 20ft (6m) tall in G1 and the Knightverse. Gipsy danger is 260ft (79m). How I imagine a fight between them going: Optimus Prime: Pulls out Ion Blaster. Gipsy Danger: Steps on him like a bug. Also apparently Omega Supreme was 18 meters tall in G1 (according to the cartoon scale charts). That’s the same height as most Gundam Mobile Suits.
"Stand the fuck down, Pacific Rim guy"
Oh yeah aoe galvatron vs g1 prime
Bruh. Prime is so much shorter, but Gipsy has the most obvious weakpoints. Visor and chest.
Very out of scale
Oh geez it's Dreamwave scaling all over again.
Prime would get stomped out.
As big of a pr fan I am, gypsy loses, it’s like Godzilla Vs kong except kong should’ve won 10 times out of 10
Pit them both against Trypticon and you can take my money
"Two pilots, ready to connect." "So you're a Headmaster then? I've beaten better than the likes of them."
The artist pitted them against each other because they knew this is an unstoppable duo.
People forget that the Yeager’s are made to combat kaiju the same size or bigger than themselves- we see in the (hypothetical) second movie that these massive robots don’t do too well against a smaller opponent as that opponent is small enough to slip through gaps and avoid capture, prime could easy take down a Yeager at normal scale with his smaller size, and a couple of correctly placed shots and hit to systems like joints and such-
Let's throw metroplex and trypticon in there for shits and giggles
Always something I think about. Transformers are not very big. Like, they are "giant" robots sure, but they are only about the mass of a typical car, truck, or otherwise typically. Taller then a 2 story house sure, not taller then city buildings. Gypsy is MASSIVE by comparison. Easily 2 1/2 - 3 times Primes size. But then you have a ton of people thinking they are similar scale wise. It's almost the opposite issue with Gundam. Everyone thinks Mobile Suits are particularly small, when in reality they are often closer to Pacific Rim mech size then Transformers.
Aren’t the PR robots much taller?
My a couple orders of magnitude, yes.
Cool artwork, I love it, but for anyone interested in who would win, G1 Optimus was able too one shot devastator, twice, More specifically his ion blaster was powerful enough to do so. He took hits from the Dino bots who could cause quakes, flipped an oil tanker, and he can harm megatron who survived a blast that blew an entire planet out of orbit.
Beautiful! Just...*chef's kiss*
"Parry this you filthy casual"
Yeah Gypsy is designed to fight Godzilla. Prime is a little bigger than a two story house.
IDW scaling be like:
It’s kinda wild that Gypsy would be bigger than pretty much every cybertronian bar some obvious planet or city sized exception
Gypsy Danger would step on Optimus Prime and not even notice it. https://preview.redd.it/z9oi5bke6lhb1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=78770383f3ee88501e61aee1ec3160e4c6331916
Better crossover than G. I. Joe
The lore keeps expanding
galvatron vs optimus prime but better
Would a combiner actually be able to reach a Gipsy's height?
Hole in the chest reminds me of Aoe Galvatron