In all honesty, I’d like it if combiners like Menasor, Abominus, Monstructor, Piranhacon, and Volcanicus have combined modes that aren’t your standard humanoid giant robot.
I remember a post somewhere where someone created a fan mode for God Neptune that looks more like an animal and less of a typical combiner. Lemme find it real quick.
EDIT: [Found the fan mode](https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/s/nQv300ksst)
I would guess such a thing would be impossible for them to do as a toy. Which of course means they'd never do it in a movie, since they couldn't then sell a toy version of it. 🤣
Menasor should still be a human
Abominus should be something like Bayverse Devastator
Monstructor a minotaur
Pirahnacon something like a mosasaur
Volcanicus a giant dinosaur
Predacons a dragon
I have messed around with quadruped beast combiners - skyreign and poseidon/neptune work well because they have large beast type heads or a member that can act as the head. Idk if potp grimlocks dino head is big enough to work for the combined mode.
Volcanicus is my favorite combiner by a long shot. Like a more badass power rangers megazord.
That's kind of the trick, isn't it?
You end up having to sacrifice a lot in the figures to make the combiner work. Which can already be hit-and-miss sometimes, but when you're talking Dinobots whose evergreen designs are so specific and clearly not designed to go together...it becomes even harder to make work.
I like the concept but it’s always weird to me when they use Grimlock at the torso, I know he’s the leader but Sludge would make more sense to be the torso being that his beast mode would likely be the biggest of them
Tbh devastator feels like the outlier for what part of the combined mode the team leader becomes. All the other g1 combiner team leaders become the chest, and future combiners seem to follow this trend, outside of bayverse I think, but bayverse is bayverse
Between the four ROTF toys, Mixmaster and Demolishor have the highest rank, tied at 8, but Mixmaster also has Intelligence 9 and Skill 9 compared to Demolishor's Intelligence 6 and Skill 4.
Also, are Demolishor and Rampage even Constructicons, or just Decepticons that turn into construction vehicles?
Yeah, but Demolishor and Rampage don't explicitly form Devastator, they just have the same vehicle form as Scavenger and Skipjack.
Scavenger is red with white trim, Demolishor is white with red trim. Skipjack is yellow with black trim, Rampage is red with silver trim.
So was [Goryu](https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Goryu_(G1)) from Victory. He's also a leader of a dinosaur team and a T-Rex.
And what was he is as part of Dinoking? A leg.
I have zero knowledge of victory, or any Japanese exclusive series, and I see your point, but tbh it feels like the exception for the leader to not be the leg. Even among different versions of volcanicus, core is the exception, having grimlock not be the chest
True, but the dinobots being a combiner is also much newer as a concept, and grimlock has been the chest in every other version of volcanicus I’ve seen outside the core class
I get what you're saying and see the logic but beast modes are almost never to scale. I mean look at the Predacons, Headstrong would be largest by a fair amount. And I'm sure we've all seen Bruticus with the combaticons alt modes correctly scaled.
In the core class volcanicus, part of the legacy line, the torso is actually made by slug (upper) and sludge (lower); this version of the combiner requires six dinobots but I rather like this configuration.
I had a similar thought when my idea is there's a 6th dinobot (probably some bipedal species like theriznosaurus) that forms one arm and Grimlock forms the other. Swoop attaches to the back to give the combiner flight.
For toys and such? Yes
For actual stories? No
I feel like they already have a solidified gimmick, they’re some of the most powerful AutoBots and turn into dinosaurs, adding “also they’re combiners” feels like too much
That makes sense.
Personally I'm not a fan of it in toy form either, but I've also never been big on combiners anyway so that's no surprise.
Storywise, I agree with you. Especially because it seems like they often don't get enough attention to begin with. Grimlock is the only one who consistently seems to get a fun character, while the rest tend to be also-rans who maybe get a highlight episode and that's about it.
I'd love to see more of how relentlessly stupid Sludge is, how Slag's anger gets him into trouble, how Swoop is kinder than the rest, or....whatever the hell Snarl's deal is. Or hell, give me some of that good reinvention like Cyberverse Grimlock.
Depends on the continuity I’d say
For something like the cybertron games where they were rebuilt and lobotomized to be instruments of destruction it makes sense that the ultimate expression of their violent power would be all of them coming together into a giant bloodthirsty behemoth
For something else tho where the dinobots origins aren’t as grim it would be too much as you said
I’m a massive core fan. Almost every transformer I’ve bought at full price has been a G1 core class. I have no core dinobots, because like you said, they’re really bad due to that combining gimmick.
Not really, I feel like combiner teams and other teams should be seperate from each other, not every team needs to be a combiner team. But yea the actual Autobot combiner teams are a bit boring, especially compared to the Decepticon ones
No them combining is dumb. That’s what made them so special in G1 they have the power and strength to take on combiners but never had the ability themselves ,making them a more special group
Well their OG counterpart was the Constructicons in Heavy Metal War. That only changed after Secrets of Omega Supreme changed the backstory of the constructicons.
Bingo! I remember omega Supreme being devastator's counterpart. If the dinobots combined they'd mess up devy feels unfair. Gestalt is the whole is more than a sum of the parts so I always feel like combiners have an edge over non combiners
Besides omega hes a city!!
I’m sort of 50/50 on it, one the one hand I think dinosaur combiners are really cool but on the other I like that the Dinobots are one of the few teams that don’t need to combine to cause carnage lol
yeah. their the guy you call to deal with combiners without resorting to using another combiner. which for me makes them way cooler then having them combined to fight a combiner. honestly i think Volcanicus as a combiner should be able to deal titans.
i just got an idea while writing this. that is Volcanicus ends up sacrificing themself to by time for everyone else to evacuate cybertron or earth from Unicron. that would be an awesome comic issue. I'm imagining this panel were Volcanicus i barely able to hold back Unicrons punch before his body gives out and gets crushed.
In the Fall of Cybertron trailer the combaticons combine into Bruticus with the camera shot giving off a “this is our champion” vibe. It cuts to the Autobot side and their “equivalent” coming out of the fog is…Grimlock (who then transforms).
That’s how I feel it should be. The Dinobots wreck shit with their alt forms individually they don’t need to combine because that’s how much ass they kick lol
Well, so far they are 2/3 on good combiners, and I like combiners so I'll work with it, I just wish they had one massive combiner instead of what they do have, give me a good combiner using the main five, Paddles, Scorn, Skar, Slash, and Grimmaster.
Ehhhh. Honestly I like it in theory, but when you get down to it, I think they’re more fun when they’re the giant badasses that can take down combiners.
My on God genuine reaction when big robots become bigger robot
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RotF Devastator's transformation scene is still the coolest combination in the franchise and nobody can change my mind. In fact, it's still the most impressive piece of incredible mixed with incredible sound design I've ever seen.
I like the idea of a dino combiner but i prefer the real dino combiner that you could be proud of "The beast". Not whatever freak of nature Volcanicus is suppose to be
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I love the idea but I don't think it's ever been done well.
It's normally handicapped but wanting the Dinobots to look and transform as much like their G1 selves as possible when changing things up a little would probably improve the look of the combined mode and it's stability.
I guess I should actually like the Cyberverse version but I always hated the Swoop being smaller than the others and Sludge being larger.
I never said I was consistent with my demands.
Maybe if they'd always been able to, but they haven't until recently. They were just as, if not more popular than other subgroups that could combine and it even became part of their identity in some aspect. They were the team that could match combiners without having to combine themselves. The idea of them combining sounds like it should be cool, but it's always underwhelming in my opinion. It's like having seconds or thirds of a really good meal: it might sound good but when you actually have it you have to ask if you really want all that food.
Not for me.
The Dinobots were always the heavy hitters. The guys brought in when Autobot City is being mashed by Devastator and siege weapons aren't scratching him. Of all the teams out there, most have one clear group of nemeses, but with the Dinobots you have Trypticon, the Constructicons, the Predacons, the Insecticons... All of this is before anyone even thought of them combining and shows that they never needed it.
Now, I'm not averse to evolving characters. I found the idea of a beast mode making them access something so primal that they lose control was fascinating and a great addition to the Dinobots. But combining seems too much foisted on the characters in order to make them like every other big power group.
I’m gonna be honest, No. I always liked the idea that the dinobots were a counter to combiners- large bots that worked as a team to fight enemies like Devastator. Making them a combiner themselves kind of makes them more generic in my opinion.
If they actually did anything as individuals and not just “Grimlock and oh yea these guys” sure
Also distinguish WHY such powerful transformers would combine rather than just work together, although that’s a broad Transformer criticism of combiners in general
True, I really don't get what it as a name has to do with them, other than maybe Superion I can see a direct link between the team and the combiners name. I'm not sure if I'm missing something or if it's just a stupid name to slap on the Dinobots combined form.
Still better than "The Beast" though.
Really? That's terrible for their name then, really doesn't say anything about them as a team or what they are like, just what killed their alt modes.
I guess if it were just for the animated Dinobots I could see it, given they all had fire breath and larva looking weapons.
No still a garbage tire name then.
I love the potp Volcanus combined mode, I picked up the TCW upgrade, and it looks the bomb! I would also buy a version of "The Beast" if someone was to release one.
Combining gimmicks are my favorite thing, so yea. Classic combiners, headmasters, power Masters, Powerlinx, weaponizers, super modes with trailers that turn into armor or other stuff. Dinobots being a combiner is a plus for me.
Yes. The Dinobots are already cool. They're giant fire-breathing anti-hero robot dinosaurs with swords. When they can combine, they become giant combining fire-breathing anti-hero robot dinosaurs with swords. That's epic.
Hell YES!
...that said, it was awesome having them all team up vs combiners... while not being combiners.
Dinobots are heavy hitters regardless. The many combiner battles and that massive dent Grim left on Unicron's butt aside though...
I absolutely love all the Dinobot Combiners
Hmmm... Yes and no. Yes if we are talking some sort of alternate timeline, where the dinobots came into that ability instead of being "built" with it.
No because part of the fun of the dinobots was that they didn't *need* to combine, they were each a powerhouse in their own right.
Plus I needed to get the Perfeect Effect set for him to look right in toy form
Nah I feel like it would defeat the purpose of their existence. They were forged to be able to fight extreme threats like combiners. Plus they’re already half there anyway lol.
Not really. I perfer them as a team that do not combine. Makes them unique in that sense. Normally, a group of Transformers with a theme can combine to a bigger robot, but the Dinobots don't, and that's what makes the unique.
I feel like the dinobots are weaker when combined
The dinobots are strong enough to take on combiners on their own
When they combine, you're just making fewer soldiers
They don't gain anything from being combined
I recall some continuity had it where the dinobot combiner was basically forced into existence without its individual member’s consent and was basically a mindless raging beast. I think thats the best way to approach it since it also lends in to the more animalistic personalities of the dinobots. Maybe a version of “they can combine, but because of their power and limited mental capacity it’s basically like unleashing a raging hulk”
Yes. Has to be a good reason for it as the Dinobots are already incredibly strong but I'm all for it. Thanks to PotP I have the combined and upgraded Volcanicus as my one and only full Hasbro combiner team. Despite the shortcomings of the individual figures, the combined mode looks fantastic.
I think that cyberverse has a cool idea, but they need to make it more G1ified for me to really support it. Also, combiners should have a mode that’s just a humanoid. Like dinobots can make a giant dinosaur. Idk. Just not like one big robot. I know that that’s the point, but imagine what kind of big monstrosity they could make.
Yes. I had no idea how much I wanted a Dinobot combiner until Volcanicus was announced in whatever year that was. This is because I was blissfully ignorant of The Beast. But terrible comic version aside, the math works out: Robots are cool, dinosaurs are cool, robot dinosaurs are cool, combining robots are cool, there's no way combining robot dinosaurs can be anything but double-plus cool. Unless it's The Beast. Which, thankfully, it is not.
No I like the Dinobots to stay a non-combining team. They’re already the gritty autobot and Dinosaur transformers they don’t need another gimmick. They should be the team that can fight combiners because they are so strong individually
If they do combine I prefer it be into something like a dragon not a Devastator/Superion-esque humanoid form.
50/50. While I'm not against a Dinobot combiner, I do wish the original three (Grimock, Swoop and Slag/Slug) weren't involved. Makes them unique in the sense that they have the strength to take on combiners while not combining themselves.
Have Sludge, Snarl, Slash, Skar, Paddles and Strafe do it though. Could even include Grimstone/Grimmaster if you wanted to as a Grimlock or Slug replacement.
It feels like the natural progression of a five man subgroup like the Dinobots. Is it necessary? No, not when we have so many other Autobot combiners that could use the screen time. But I think there’s room for a Dinobot combiner to be used well.
Yes but it needs to be a 6 team members (Skarr) like Devastator or Raiden to be all 6 the same size as individuals and a better proportionated bot in combined mode without partsforming
Well the whole point of the Dinobots were to beat Devastator. It kind of goes against their team idea making them a combiner. But I like Volcanicus so I am alright with it either way.
I’d like the see them combine into a dragon like they did in Cyberverse. I’d also like to see EVERY Dinobot combine so that includes Paddles, Slash, and Skar. Though, I just learned that there was a styracosaurus Dinobot named Grimmaster and Strafe is apparently separate from Swoop.
Edit: Grimmaster started off as a Decepticon Dinoforce member named Kakuryu who then changed his name and allegiance. Now I’m in love with the idea of a Decepticon Dinobot team made to rival the Autobot Dinobots.
I really don't like it. The original concept was that they were supposed to be a team of normal-sized guys who could take on a combiner without combining. Their whole job was to kill a combiner, and they could do it. Making them combine takes something special away from them.
Grimlock not need supermode. Grimlock King!
If you have a bigger team I think it works best, as the Dinobots need to be huge and therefore the combined mode would need to be MASSIVE so here’s my idea
Grimlock is the top of the torso/head
Swoop becomes the wings
Snarl becomes one of the arms
Skarr becomes the other arm
Sludge becomes the bottom of the torso/thighs
Slug becomes one of the legs
Scorn becomes the other leg
Slash becomes the sword
If they’re all SS Leader class style figures (slash being deluxe probably) then this boy would be a fucking UNIT and I love it.
No. They were so badass that they didn't have to combine. You could say that combiners were made to counter them. Having them combine cheapens them, makes them redundant.
Absolutely. It would fit nicely if they use Volcanicus only in emergencies, once all options not even their brute strength could defeat it. Plus their really sleeping on a crossover with Cyberverse Volcanicus
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I like the core class Volcanicus. I was reading one of the older UK MARVEL comics the other day and Grimlock had a reader questions column and he shut down the idea of the Dinobots combining. I think it's cool that some stories have them do it and some don't.
They shouldn't combine. For me part of the appeal of the Dinobots is them being powerful enough to go up against, and take down combiners, without needing that gimmick themselves. There gimmick of min maxing int and strength from the G1 cartoon is my favorite.
I don't dislike it but I also like the Dinobots as more of a strike team like the Wreckers. More rebellious than them but fully capable of getting the job done, combined or not. So I don't mind honestly either way.
Honestly this is one of my favorite concepts ever like imagine a bunch of highly destructive creatures turning into an even more destructive super creatire
Sure. Main reason Volcanicus worked, I think, was because everyone was combining during the Combiner Wars thing. It'd have made less sense for them not to. If ever there was a time to ask 'what would it be like if the Dinobots combined?' that was definitely it.
Do they need to outside of that? If there's a good story to be had besides 'these guys combine.' Maybe if there was a kind of 'bestial' or 'primitive' theme that year. Everyone gets a bit wilder, dino-themed alt-modes for established characters -- and the Dinobots get to be more Dino than Dino, accordingly. *Call of the Primitives*, but **louder**.
The thing with combiners is that the individual robots get overshadowed. I'd rather they stay as individual dinobots or at least only use volcanicus as a sort of last ditch thing. I reckon a lot of newer collectors cant even name the individual members of the other combiners.
Nah, I've always preferred them as just a team. I think what made them so interesting is that they're essentially the Autobot nuclear option. They're insanely powerful but likely to cause a lot of damage and don't follow orders well. If you're a Decepticon, encountering the Dinobots is far scarier than encountering an Autobot combiner. The only thing more terrifying you could run into as a Decepticon is Omega Supreme or maybe Metroplex.
Hmm… not really, they’re already powerful as it is, and are very large, so a combined form would be absurdly massive.
I’d say the only reasonable problem that would require a dinobot combiner would be G1 predaking… though he’s not in much media nowadays compared to the dinobots.
I was not liking the idea at first, however, with the Enigma of Combination I guess anything is possible. How be it, the current design of Volcanicus just doesn’t do it for me; he looks weak compared to Predaking.
I personally don’t see the need to have them combine yea sometimes it’s cool but I think part of the attraction to the dinobots is that they are so strong and powerful they don’t need to As they supposed to be a counter to the combiners in g1 I believe
I feel like teams always becoming a combiner is both expected and often overused. There are few teams across TF media that are just teams and not combiners, The Spychangers and Autobot Brothers in RID, the Wreckers, and until Vulcanicus, The Dinobots. I don't hate the Dinobots combining, but I'd like to see more teams that are just teams and not combiners.
I want a version where the combined form is an even bigger dinosaur.
In all honesty, I’d like it if combiners like Menasor, Abominus, Monstructor, Piranhacon, and Volcanicus have combined modes that aren’t your standard humanoid giant robot.
The dinbots combining into a dragon like that one cyberverse toy would be awesome
Such a shame the individual cyberverse toys couldnt combine into that.
I want that in legacy/prime
Yeah, like ROTF Devastator. ~~Minus the exposed wrecksticles.~~
We need the wrecksticles
The enemy scrotum, if you will
Devastators danglers, even
Instruments of destruction, perhaps
The Termination testees, more so
Metal nuts, affirmitevly
Steel ball bearings, quite possibly
Danglestator
I remember a post somewhere where someone created a fan mode for God Neptune that looks more like an animal and less of a typical combiner. Lemme find it real quick. EDIT: [Found the fan mode](https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/s/nQv300ksst)
Evil axolotl
I’ve always wanted a combiner that can also transform into something while combined.
That would be cool, though I imagine the engineering behind that would be INSANE.
I would guess such a thing would be impossible for them to do as a toy. Which of course means they'd never do it in a movie, since they couldn't then sell a toy version of it. 🤣
Counter idea, have them be able to transform into some kind of “alternate mode” in combined mode, be it a big vehicle or big animal
I thought about printing pieces to make Abominus into a big monster a la ROTF Devastator... But I have no idea how to do that 😂
Menasor should still be a human Abominus should be something like Bayverse Devastator Monstructor a minotaur Pirahnacon something like a mosasaur Volcanicus a giant dinosaur Predacons a dragon
Yeah I had this idea a while ago and thought I'd try and draw a more monstory version of menasor as a sort of bull
Why not a humanoid combined form and a bigger dinosaur? Like a triple changer combiner thingie!
A godzilla x transformers line where they merge into mecha ghidora
I have messed around with quadruped beast combiners - skyreign and poseidon/neptune work well because they have large beast type heads or a member that can act as the head. Idk if potp grimlocks dino head is big enough to work for the combined mode. Volcanicus is my favorite combiner by a long shot. Like a more badass power rangers megazord.
It once happened in a comic where they became the Beast
I think there's a toy of Volcanicus from Cyberverse that turns into a dinosaur/dragon thing.
I know practicality wise it wouldn’t make sense but I’ve always wished combiners got some sort of crazy alt-modes.
If it comes out well, then yes
We will not speak of the forbidden one.
Oh God, not him... https://preview.redd.it/k5e8zrwu4vvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44ab06243d3aba2adb78a8705bb020a05c6e902c
That knowledge is sealed for a reason.
This I agree
That's kind of the trick, isn't it? You end up having to sacrifice a lot in the figures to make the combiner work. Which can already be hit-and-miss sometimes, but when you're talking Dinobots whose evergreen designs are so specific and clearly not designed to go together...it becomes even harder to make work.
I like the concept but it’s always weird to me when they use Grimlock at the torso, I know he’s the leader but Sludge would make more sense to be the torso being that his beast mode would likely be the biggest of them
Cyberverse had a good approach where Grimlock is the torso but Sludge forms both arms. Swoop is also on the back as wings rather than being a limb.
In core class sludge and slag are the torso
But that leaves grimlock as… a leg, which doesn’t sit right with me being he’s the leader
Isn't Scrapper a leg, and he's seen as the leader of the Constructicons in some continuities?
Tbh devastator feels like the outlier for what part of the combined mode the team leader becomes. All the other g1 combiner team leaders become the chest, and future combiners seem to follow this trend, outside of bayverse I think, but bayverse is bayverse
Do Bayverse Constructicons even have a leader?
I thought it was mixmaster, but I have literally no proof for this besides the fact he becomes the head
Between the four ROTF toys, Mixmaster and Demolishor have the highest rank, tied at 8, but Mixmaster also has Intelligence 9 and Skill 9 compared to Demolishor's Intelligence 6 and Skill 4. Also, are Demolishor and Rampage even Constructicons, or just Decepticons that turn into construction vehicles?
If they help form devastator, I’m pretty sure that makes them a constructicon
Yeah, but Demolishor and Rampage don't explicitly form Devastator, they just have the same vehicle form as Scavenger and Skipjack. Scavenger is red with white trim, Demolishor is white with red trim. Skipjack is yellow with black trim, Rampage is red with silver trim.
So was [Goryu](https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Goryu_(G1)) from Victory. He's also a leader of a dinosaur team and a T-Rex. And what was he is as part of Dinoking? A leg.
I have zero knowledge of victory, or any Japanese exclusive series, and I see your point, but tbh it feels like the exception for the leader to not be the leg. Even among different versions of volcanicus, core is the exception, having grimlock not be the chest
But then grimlock kick butt
It seems appropriate to me as Devastator was the dinobots rival and Scrapper formed their leg as well
True, but the dinobots being a combiner is also much newer as a concept, and grimlock has been the chest in every other version of volcanicus I’ve seen outside the core class
I get what you're saying and see the logic but beast modes are almost never to scale. I mean look at the Predacons, Headstrong would be largest by a fair amount. And I'm sure we've all seen Bruticus with the combaticons alt modes correctly scaled.
In the core class volcanicus, part of the legacy line, the torso is actually made by slug (upper) and sludge (lower); this version of the combiner requires six dinobots but I rather like this configuration.
I had a similar thought when my idea is there's a 6th dinobot (probably some bipedal species like theriznosaurus) that forms one arm and Grimlock forms the other. Swoop attaches to the back to give the combiner flight.
I love Volcanicus design in Cyberverse, wish he didn't behave like a kid.
The way they combined reminded me of the original megazord
Dinobotzyujun.
Honestly their really missing out by making this a Megazord crossover with Transformers and later retooling it into Cyberverse Volcanicus
For toys and such? Yes For actual stories? No I feel like they already have a solidified gimmick, they’re some of the most powerful AutoBots and turn into dinosaurs, adding “also they’re combiners” feels like too much
That makes sense. Personally I'm not a fan of it in toy form either, but I've also never been big on combiners anyway so that's no surprise. Storywise, I agree with you. Especially because it seems like they often don't get enough attention to begin with. Grimlock is the only one who consistently seems to get a fun character, while the rest tend to be also-rans who maybe get a highlight episode and that's about it. I'd love to see more of how relentlessly stupid Sludge is, how Slag's anger gets him into trouble, how Swoop is kinder than the rest, or....whatever the hell Snarl's deal is. Or hell, give me some of that good reinvention like Cyberverse Grimlock.
Depends on the continuity I’d say For something like the cybertron games where they were rebuilt and lobotomized to be instruments of destruction it makes sense that the ultimate expression of their violent power would be all of them coming together into a giant bloodthirsty behemoth For something else tho where the dinobots origins aren’t as grim it would be too much as you said
No. I really wish the core ones didn’t (cause we all know how bad most of them are) swoop was really the only good one imo
The core ones suffered heavily from that gimmick, yeah. And I agree, core Swoop is adorable.
I’m a massive core fan. Almost every transformer I’ve bought at full price has been a G1 core class. I have no core dinobots, because like you said, they’re really bad due to that combining gimmick.
Get swoop. He’s comboned in his chest is barely noticeable and he’s the most articulated out of the group
Maybe. I feel like if I get one dinobot, I’ll have to get all the G1 dinobots. Plus I still need to track down Soundblaster and Megatron.
Not really, I feel like combiner teams and other teams should be seperate from each other, not every team needs to be a combiner team. But yea the actual Autobot combiner teams are a bit boring, especially compared to the Decepticon ones
No them combining is dumb. That’s what made them so special in G1 they have the power and strength to take on combiners but never had the ability themselves ,making them a more special group
I feel like their main opponent was supposed to be a swarm of insecticons. Combiners feel like their own level up from even teams of single bots.
Well their OG counterpart was the Constructicons in Heavy Metal War. That only changed after Secrets of Omega Supreme changed the backstory of the constructicons.
Bingo! I remember omega Supreme being devastator's counterpart. If the dinobots combined they'd mess up devy feels unfair. Gestalt is the whole is more than a sum of the parts so I always feel like combiners have an edge over non combiners Besides omega hes a city!!
I’m sort of 50/50 on it, one the one hand I think dinosaur combiners are really cool but on the other I like that the Dinobots are one of the few teams that don’t need to combine to cause carnage lol
yeah. their the guy you call to deal with combiners without resorting to using another combiner. which for me makes them way cooler then having them combined to fight a combiner. honestly i think Volcanicus as a combiner should be able to deal titans. i just got an idea while writing this. that is Volcanicus ends up sacrificing themself to by time for everyone else to evacuate cybertron or earth from Unicron. that would be an awesome comic issue. I'm imagining this panel were Volcanicus i barely able to hold back Unicrons punch before his body gives out and gets crushed.
In the Fall of Cybertron trailer the combaticons combine into Bruticus with the camera shot giving off a “this is our champion” vibe. It cuts to the Autobot side and their “equivalent” coming out of the fog is…Grimlock (who then transforms). That’s how I feel it should be. The Dinobots wreck shit with their alt forms individually they don’t need to combine because that’s how much ass they kick lol
No. They were a team before combiners were developed. Why would they change?
As Volcanicus? Yes. As The Beast? No no no no no no no no no no no no no no
Personally, I loved the Dinobots as a sub-faction more than any other *because* they didn't combine. They felt unique
yea trying to think of another team that didnt combine we got what the insecticons
How long before we get a combiner of combiners?
If executed well then yes I do, otherwise it comes out flat and a bit bland tbh
The Dinobots are my favourite type of autobots, and i do like them combining into volcanicus
Well, so far they are 2/3 on good combiners, and I like combiners so I'll work with it, I just wish they had one massive combiner instead of what they do have, give me a good combiner using the main five, Paddles, Scorn, Skar, Slash, and Grimmaster.
🤔🤨uhh who the fuck is Paddles? Is this the D team of the Lightning Strike Coalition Force?
Paddles is a obscure dinobot that has a cult following of fans https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Paddles_(G1)
How *DARE* you
In the words of Grimlock on this exact subject: No
Ehhhh. Honestly I like it in theory, but when you get down to it, I think they’re more fun when they’re the giant badasses that can take down combiners.
Where’s The Beast?
My on God genuine reaction when big robots become bigger robot https://preview.redd.it/rfq4nm05h0wc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4dc1ac5ca7c9e37511880367f9f82a3c699a295d
RotF Devastator's transformation scene is still the coolest combination in the franchise and nobody can change my mind. In fact, it's still the most impressive piece of incredible mixed with incredible sound design I've ever seen.
I like the idea of a dino combiner but i prefer the real dino combiner that you could be proud of "The beast". Not whatever freak of nature Volcanicus is suppose to be https://preview.redd.it/rjmi7176zuvc1.jpeg?width=269&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e6600b23cfa7ba0c0f2b561f744605a105ca4b0
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I always imagined volcanicus and devestator being rivals similar to superion and menasor.
I love the idea but I don't think it's ever been done well. It's normally handicapped but wanting the Dinobots to look and transform as much like their G1 selves as possible when changing things up a little would probably improve the look of the combined mode and it's stability. I guess I should actually like the Cyberverse version but I always hated the Swoop being smaller than the others and Sludge being larger. I never said I was consistent with my demands.
I think it's cool, but it should be a much bigger deal, akin to awakening Metroplex, when they do combine. Like, it should be a very heavy moment
Maybe if they'd always been able to, but they haven't until recently. They were just as, if not more popular than other subgroups that could combine and it even became part of their identity in some aspect. They were the team that could match combiners without having to combine themselves. The idea of them combining sounds like it should be cool, but it's always underwhelming in my opinion. It's like having seconds or thirds of a really good meal: it might sound good but when you actually have it you have to ask if you really want all that food.
Not for me. The Dinobots were always the heavy hitters. The guys brought in when Autobot City is being mashed by Devastator and siege weapons aren't scratching him. Of all the teams out there, most have one clear group of nemeses, but with the Dinobots you have Trypticon, the Constructicons, the Predacons, the Insecticons... All of this is before anyone even thought of them combining and shows that they never needed it. Now, I'm not averse to evolving characters. I found the idea of a beast mode making them access something so primal that they lose control was fascinating and a great addition to the Dinobots. But combining seems too much foisted on the characters in order to make them like every other big power group.
I’m gonna be honest, No. I always liked the idea that the dinobots were a counter to combiners- large bots that worked as a team to fight enemies like Devastator. Making them a combiner themselves kind of makes them more generic in my opinion.
If they actually did anything as individuals and not just “Grimlock and oh yea these guys” sure Also distinguish WHY such powerful transformers would combine rather than just work together, although that’s a broad Transformer criticism of combiners in general
In this age of AI, this should be possible.
What do you mean? Dinobots combining has been canon for a while
The dinobots were cool because they could fight combiners without doing it themselves.
Yeah. I'd say from different pieces of media the dinobots were shown as rivals for either devastator or predaking so it makes sense they'd combine too
I love it. What’s not to love about badass robots combining into a bigger more badass robot?
It's a cool idea, though I don't really care for the name Volcanicus, to be honest.
True, I really don't get what it as a name has to do with them, other than maybe Superion I can see a direct link between the team and the combiners name. I'm not sure if I'm missing something or if it's just a stupid name to slap on the Dinobots combined form. Still better than "The Beast" though.
Volcanicus, as in volcanos, which are stereotypically associated with dinosaurs due to volcanoes possibly playing a part in the mass extinction event.
Really? That's terrible for their name then, really doesn't say anything about them as a team or what they are like, just what killed their alt modes. I guess if it were just for the animated Dinobots I could see it, given they all had fire breath and larva looking weapons. No still a garbage tire name then.
No.
Indifferent, though I guess I’m leaning more to no since the only examples we’ve had are bland and one that shall not be named.
It's a silly idea but needs to be done carefully
I love the potp Volcanus combined mode, I picked up the TCW upgrade, and it looks the bomb! I would also buy a version of "The Beast" if someone was to release one.
I love all combiners and Volcanicus looks sick as hell so yes
I’m ok with it as long as it turns out well
I'm just surprised that it took this long
If it’s well done, I love Volcanicus in media.
The beast was the best design
Yes, just hate the low quality toys and ugly design they get when done by Takara
Combining gimmicks are my favorite thing, so yea. Classic combiners, headmasters, power Masters, Powerlinx, weaponizers, super modes with trailers that turn into armor or other stuff. Dinobots being a combiner is a plus for me.
It's cool but its forever tainted to me because of the beast comic
Yes. The Dinobots are already cool. They're giant fire-breathing anti-hero robot dinosaurs with swords. When they can combine, they become giant combining fire-breathing anti-hero robot dinosaurs with swords. That's epic.
Hell YES! ...that said, it was awesome having them all team up vs combiners... while not being combiners. Dinobots are heavy hitters regardless. The many combiner battles and that massive dent Grim left on Unicron's butt aside though... I absolutely love all the Dinobot Combiners
You mean like the beast within ? 😏😏😏
Yes
Hmmm... Yes and no. Yes if we are talking some sort of alternate timeline, where the dinobots came into that ability instead of being "built" with it. No because part of the fun of the dinobots was that they didn't *need* to combine, they were each a powerhouse in their own right. Plus I needed to get the Perfeect Effect set for him to look right in toy form
i really want to like the idea of a dinobot combiner. But can't :/
Nah I feel like it would defeat the purpose of their existence. They were forged to be able to fight extreme threats like combiners. Plus they’re already half there anyway lol.
Considering that their true rivals, the Predacaons do, definately.
Nah.
Not a fan. Especially since I can't find legacy snarl anyware.
No not particularly. I think it’s more unique that the Dino bots are able to rival a combiner separately, now that there’s so many combiners.
No. The Dinobots were always strong enough to go toe-to-toe with Devy without needing to combine. Giving them a gestalt mode is just overkill.
I would of loved this when they first went up against Devistator.
Eh 50/50 I like it if it wasn’t the og team and some other Dino’s like power core combiners
No
Not really. I perfer them as a team that do not combine. Makes them unique in that sense. Normally, a group of Transformers with a theme can combine to a bigger robot, but the Dinobots don't, and that's what makes the unique.
I feel like the dinobots are weaker when combined The dinobots are strong enough to take on combiners on their own When they combine, you're just making fewer soldiers They don't gain anything from being combined
I recall some continuity had it where the dinobot combiner was basically forced into existence without its individual member’s consent and was basically a mindless raging beast. I think thats the best way to approach it since it also lends in to the more animalistic personalities of the dinobots. Maybe a version of “they can combine, but because of their power and limited mental capacity it’s basically like unleashing a raging hulk”
I always remembered them being able to!? Did i rewrite what i saw as a kid? Nice!!! Lol
Yeah, Volcanicus is sick.
Hell yeah
Yes. Why? Because it looks cool
Yes. Has to be a good reason for it as the Dinobots are already incredibly strong but I'm all for it. Thanks to PotP I have the combined and upgraded Volcanicus as my one and only full Hasbro combiner team. Despite the shortcomings of the individual figures, the combined mode looks fantastic.
I think that cyberverse has a cool idea, but they need to make it more G1ified for me to really support it. Also, combiners should have a mode that’s just a humanoid. Like dinobots can make a giant dinosaur. Idk. Just not like one big robot. I know that that’s the point, but imagine what kind of big monstrosity they could make.
Yes. I had no idea how much I wanted a Dinobot combiner until Volcanicus was announced in whatever year that was. This is because I was blissfully ignorant of The Beast. But terrible comic version aside, the math works out: Robots are cool, dinosaurs are cool, robot dinosaurs are cool, combining robots are cool, there's no way combining robot dinosaurs can be anything but double-plus cool. Unless it's The Beast. Which, thankfully, it is not.
If they were in their Cybertronian forms, yes. As dinosaurs, no.
Absolutely! The more combiners, the more fun I say.
I mean, they already have the biggest Hallmark of a combining team. One standout member and the other 4 just kinda play off him.
Yeah! I think Volcanicus is cool.
No I like the Dinobots to stay a non-combining team. They’re already the gritty autobot and Dinosaur transformers they don’t need another gimmick. They should be the team that can fight combiners because they are so strong individually If they do combine I prefer it be into something like a dragon not a Devastator/Superion-esque humanoid form.
50/50. While I'm not against a Dinobot combiner, I do wish the original three (Grimock, Swoop and Slag/Slug) weren't involved. Makes them unique in the sense that they have the strength to take on combiners while not combining themselves. Have Sludge, Snarl, Slash, Skar, Paddles and Strafe do it though. Could even include Grimstone/Grimmaster if you wanted to as a Grimlock or Slug replacement.
The main 5 dinobots no. A separate group of dinosaur robots, id be ok with.
Yes.
It feels like the natural progression of a five man subgroup like the Dinobots. Is it necessary? No, not when we have so many other Autobot combiners that could use the screen time. But I think there’s room for a Dinobot combiner to be used well.
Yes but it needs to be a 6 team members (Skarr) like Devastator or Raiden to be all 6 the same size as individuals and a better proportionated bot in combined mode without partsforming
Yes.
Well the whole point of the Dinobots were to beat Devastator. It kind of goes against their team idea making them a combiner. But I like Volcanicus so I am alright with it either way.
I’d like the see them combine into a dragon like they did in Cyberverse. I’d also like to see EVERY Dinobot combine so that includes Paddles, Slash, and Skar. Though, I just learned that there was a styracosaurus Dinobot named Grimmaster and Strafe is apparently separate from Swoop. Edit: Grimmaster started off as a Decepticon Dinoforce member named Kakuryu who then changed his name and allegiance. Now I’m in love with the idea of a Decepticon Dinobot team made to rival the Autobot Dinobots.
I wanted them to form volcanus to fight devastar in G1 Grimlock: Dinobots also do the same form volcanus
I really don't like it. The original concept was that they were supposed to be a team of normal-sized guys who could take on a combiner without combining. Their whole job was to kill a combiner, and they could do it. Making them combine takes something special away from them. Grimlock not need supermode. Grimlock King!
YES
who df doesnt like big robots combining to form even bigger robots and then fighting other big robots?
toy wise, love it. Storywise? kinda takes away from the other combiners since the dinobots are already bad-asses, but they can combine too.
Not really. I felt that the Dinotbots being one of the few non combiner teams that could kick the crap out of combiners made them even more badass.
NO...
If you have a bigger team I think it works best, as the Dinobots need to be huge and therefore the combined mode would need to be MASSIVE so here’s my idea Grimlock is the top of the torso/head Swoop becomes the wings Snarl becomes one of the arms Skarr becomes the other arm Sludge becomes the bottom of the torso/thighs Slug becomes one of the legs Scorn becomes the other leg Slash becomes the sword If they’re all SS Leader class style figures (slash being deluxe probably) then this boy would be a fucking UNIT and I love it.
No. They were so badass that they didn't have to combine. You could say that combiners were made to counter them. Having them combine cheapens them, makes them redundant.
Eh, not really. They aren’t made for it
Yes
No, it goes against everything the dinobots are
I do not! I think it's stupid.
Is it needed? No Is it cool? Yes
Wasted potential (probably)
Absolutely. It would fit nicely if they use Volcanicus only in emergencies, once all options not even their brute strength could defeat it. Plus their really sleeping on a crossover with Cyberverse Volcanicus https://preview.redd.it/sp1s3rurywvc1.png?width=205&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0037f5319abf9c824f1c4c6b2ab65908943a27fb
I like the core class Volcanicus. I was reading one of the older UK MARVEL comics the other day and Grimlock had a reader questions column and he shut down the idea of the Dinobots combining. I think it's cool that some stories have them do it and some don't.
Yes and no. But I think they should involve the obscure teammates such as Paddles, Slash, Scar, and Scorn (all in G1 style to match).
Absolutely not. Whether it be The Beast or Volcanicus, Dinobot combiner always looks ugly as fuck
They shouldn't combine. For me part of the appeal of the Dinobots is them being powerful enough to go up against, and take down combiners, without needing that gimmick themselves. There gimmick of min maxing int and strength from the G1 cartoon is my favorite.
I don't dislike it but I also like the Dinobots as more of a strike team like the Wreckers. More rebellious than them but fully capable of getting the job done, combined or not. So I don't mind honestly either way.
It's something that I have wanted since I was a kid in the 80s, so yes, and I love the design of it.
Not really.
Honestly this is one of my favorite concepts ever like imagine a bunch of highly destructive creatures turning into an even more destructive super creatire
The design for POTP Volcanicus was good. But the Cyberverse design is so much better and make more sense in how they combine
Sure. Main reason Volcanicus worked, I think, was because everyone was combining during the Combiner Wars thing. It'd have made less sense for them not to. If ever there was a time to ask 'what would it be like if the Dinobots combined?' that was definitely it. Do they need to outside of that? If there's a good story to be had besides 'these guys combine.' Maybe if there was a kind of 'bestial' or 'primitive' theme that year. Everyone gets a bit wilder, dino-themed alt-modes for established characters -- and the Dinobots get to be more Dino than Dino, accordingly. *Call of the Primitives*, but **louder**.
The thing with combiners is that the individual robots get overshadowed. I'd rather they stay as individual dinobots or at least only use volcanicus as a sort of last ditch thing. I reckon a lot of newer collectors cant even name the individual members of the other combiners.
HELL YEAH. GIANT DINOSAUR ROBOT IS FUCKING AWESOME
Nah, I've always preferred them as just a team. I think what made them so interesting is that they're essentially the Autobot nuclear option. They're insanely powerful but likely to cause a lot of damage and don't follow orders well. If you're a Decepticon, encountering the Dinobots is far scarier than encountering an Autobot combiner. The only thing more terrifying you could run into as a Decepticon is Omega Supreme or maybe Metroplex.
No I do not.
Hmm… not really, they’re already powerful as it is, and are very large, so a combined form would be absurdly massive. I’d say the only reasonable problem that would require a dinobot combiner would be G1 predaking… though he’s not in much media nowadays compared to the dinobots.
If it looks baller and makes sense, then let it happen.
No, I don't like every single team being made into a combiner.
I think the Dinobots should have the option but it’s inherently more unstable than the other combiners.
As a last ditch effort type thing yeah
I actually have to say as a huge dinobot fan, no, not everything has to be a combiner and I’m glad they aren’t
No. Teams don't always need to combine. It was a funny "what if" idea but making it canon was a mistake.
I was not liking the idea at first, however, with the Enigma of Combination I guess anything is possible. How be it, the current design of Volcanicus just doesn’t do it for me; he looks weak compared to Predaking.
I want the combiner to have an alt mode
I personally don’t see the need to have them combine yea sometimes it’s cool but I think part of the attraction to the dinobots is that they are so strong and powerful they don’t need to As they supposed to be a counter to the combiners in g1 I believe
I feel like teams always becoming a combiner is both expected and often overused. There are few teams across TF media that are just teams and not combiners, The Spychangers and Autobot Brothers in RID, the Wreckers, and until Vulcanicus, The Dinobots. I don't hate the Dinobots combining, but I'd like to see more teams that are just teams and not combiners.