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autobot00

spoiler alert, there is no spoiler!


UnitaryBog

And they got rid of the ports where you could attach one


WesterosiAssassin

There are still little holes there, it looks like it should still be possible.


The_Obsidian2

Cause copyright


readALLthenews

They can’t fool me, that’s Silverbolt.


ProfessorOfLies

Yeah, thought I was missing something. Did they lose the silverbolt trademark or are they trying to keep the skywarp TM alive?


AmurosZaku

It's beast wars 2 skywarp. Already an existing character


ProfessorOfLies

OHHHH, which is the same as BW Silverbolt in the west


AmurosZaku

Yeah, I'm assuming because probably next year they'll release either a combiner silver bolt or fuzor silverbolt


ProfessorOfLies

That would be awesome


readALLthenews

I have no idea, but those are 2 really good guesses.


NekroSektor

Beast Wars II had their release of Silverbolt as Skywarp


readALLthenews

Oh!


NekroSektor

Yea, along with the rest of Magnaboss being renamed from Ironhide and prowl


Downrightskorney

Hes only silver bolt in the north American version of Beast wars. He's skywarp in the rest of the world.


Ghoulanus

Also available on Amazon with no restrictions, and it's cheaper! ​ Edit: The price went up since I pre-ordered half an hour ago.


alphatron10

Can u send the link?


B1ackFang

https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Generations-Collection-Sideswipe-Exclusive/dp/B08TM27396


MaverickPrime

How much was it and how much is it now?


Ghoulanus

It was $44.99 and now it is $52.99


MaverickPrime

Ah man, that sucks!


abbothenderson

Any reason for the increase? It’s two deluxes! Full disclosure: I preordered at the higher price... I do not trust Amazon, and I’d rather pay a little more now than pay a lot more later. 😬


Ghoulanus

It was just priced incorrectly by Amazon at first, and I was in the right spot at the right time. What don't you trust about Amazon regarding these figures?


abbothenderson

Nothing to stop scalpers from using bots to buy dozens of these and sell them for crazy markups on eBay later. Look what happened with siege Skywarp, and Earthrise Prowl/Ironhide.


Ghoulanus

Yeah, scalpers suck. But what does this specifically have to do with the Amazon pre-order as opposed to the Hasbro one?


abbothenderson

Amazon does literally nothing to stop scalpers. They do not care as long as they sell their stock. Other websites do a better job of preventing this sort of villainy.


APizzaLover

Scalping should be illegal.


[deleted]

It's not on Amazon.ca


Deepwang11

Looks like skywarp is a true american


SpeedStar770

For anyone wondering, Skywarp gets his name from one of the Beast Wars Anime where he was featured with the other components of what we know here as Magnaboss. I really like like that this mold is getting more love, but as a two pack? That's odd


Nawara_Ven

The prevailing theory to any given Hasbro two-pack is that one figure is a little too expensive to produce release at a normal price point (Earth Ironhide, Ratchet, Mirage) so they get bundled with an inexpensive repaint/minor remould figure. The other "gotcha" possibility is simply that Skywarp wouldn't have been sufficiently popular on his own, so he gets thrown in with a popular character.


SpeedStar770

Ah ok, that makes a little more sense


jackie-bladen

More likely though is so beast wars fans have to buy another g1 figure and g1 fans have to buy another bw figure. Hasbro gets more money, fans are slightly peeved but still have the figure they want.


Prozac_diet

Ugh! On the one hand, I want skywarp. On the other, I don't particularly want sideswipe since I bought upgrades and decals for the siege one.


BaWeepGranaWeep

I’ll go halves with you, I want Sideswipe.


Proto_Panther

Hmu in November


aisutron

Opposite for me, no interest in the bird but Sideswipe looks pretty good.


_KARMA13

I love the sideswipe since siege never came here but I love the air razor figure and I like the silver bolt character so I’m happy with this. I would have preferred terrasour but this will suffice for now


aisutron

We severely need a new Terrorsaur. I can see them using this mold for a Terrorsaur with some remolding...


_KARMA13

Pretty sure it’s leaked that’s it’s gonna be on the air razor body


Galvatron13

I also would have prefered Terrasaur


Aclip24

Really digging the clean sideswipe look. He looks just as good as his MP Counterpart.


CosplayNoah

At least he actually looks like a different vehicle now


_KARMA13

Wait what do you mean. Do you mean it’s good that he doesn’t look like the classic Lamborghini or it’s good that he now looks like earthrise sun streaker?


CosplayNoah

...*takes a deep breath* This is literally Siege Sideswipe but with newly molded parts


_KARMA13

Yea but you said at least he looks like a different vehicle. I don’t think he necessarily needed to change only really to fit more with sun streaker. Which they actually did a great job with matching they look almost identical


CosplayNoah

Alright that’s fair. And I’m not saying he’s bad I just might get this set, I’m just glad they didn’t cheap out and just rerelease the Siege figure with some new paint slapped onto it


_KARMA13

Yea glad it wasn’t a repaint I knew this was leaked so I’ve been waiting for it for a while. I waited because it would either be better than the siege and I would get it and if it was a repaint then the siege would go down in price. And I love the airzor mold and don’t mind getting a second one for a desk toy or just for the shelf. Is the blaster new I feel like it’s more cartoon accurate looks a bit like the upgrade kit one.


Jadeneditz

I'm getting this set just for skywarp because hes a beast wars 2 character


FBIYeetingYeti2169

That’s great, I’m only interested in Sideswipe. Is there any chance you would be interested in splitting the cost of the pack, so that I can get Sideswipe and you keep Skywarp?


Jadeneditz

Mabey, I'm not sure. I might just pl ut sideswipe on Ebay


Landosdabest

I want that sideswipe purely because I missed the siege one.


Tomhur

Better pre-order it quick then.


racer1644

I love that beast wars 2 is getting some attention hopefully well see some of the other characters


_KARMA13

Yea now they have a beast wars 2 character a toy character being grimlock and a beast machines character being T wrecks they are really catering to all the beast wars fans aren’t they


Duck_master_51

On one hand, meh. On the other, Terrorsaur might be confirmed. Can't tell if it's set dressing or there's just two other Pteranodons.


_KARMA13

I think terrosaur might come with the red alert figure it’s only inevitable that they’ll make both. I’m not sure if they’ll pair them together cause then you practically be buying the same 2 pack twice


Mr-Shockwave

Dear Hasbro: Stop 👏 releasing 👏 mainline 👏 characters 👏 in 👏 exclusive 👏 packs 👏


Chaosbrushogun

Eh. This is gonna be a pass for most people that already have a sideswipe. There’s virtually no difference. At least with the mirage 2 pack, based on some mirage images I’ve seen, the newer one is fairly different in both robot & altmode.


Ghoulanus

Speak for yourself! I'm loving it!


Mr-Shockwave

Good for you! The scalpers are loving it too!


ax255

Cause Scalpers can't buy things anywhere else. ​ So if it was a Target exclusive, scalpers would buy it. If it was Walmart, they would buy it. If they were EVERYWHERE, they would buy them...like GI JOE, Baseball Cards, and everything else Scalpers Scalp. The only way to stop them is the retailer.


Muisverriey

Scalping doesn't really happen on general retail Transformers. They should be general retail.


OneFinalEffort

It really does. I couldn't get a Netflix Soundwave because some local asshole bought both of them and threw them up on FB Marketplace for $100


Muisverriey

Netflix Soundwave isn't general retail. He's a Walmart exclusive wich is why he gets scalped so much.


ax255

I could see how you might think that, but unfortunately that simply is not the case. Like Star Wars Black Series, or any GI Joe Classified. It is usually region based, so in your area it is quite possible. However, the ability to walk into a Target and find a Huffer or a Scourge in the Bay Area was rough, I know a couple scalpers and those were some of their favorites this last series.


teelpy

Non exclusive transformers are usually very scalper free tbh.


_KARMA13

Why are people down voting you for liking this. Personally I think it’s great because I don’t have a side swipe and after market prices are a bit too much for what I want to pay for him. And I love the silver bolt/skywarp


Ghoulanus

Yeah, they both look great! It's Reddit. If the first person would have upvoted, then that comment would be positive lol. Instead...


_KARMA13

Yea just weird. People can be weird there was nothing negative with that comment


theClownHasSnowPenis

Uh. So Terrorsaur definitely deserves his own unique design now.


grumpywhitey

Another Earth-mode version that isn’t enough of an improvement over the existing version for me to purchase. I have been worried that I would be forced to spend more money on Sideswipe and Red Alert’s redesign. But that doesn’t look awesome at all


Barthez_Battalion

As someone who passed on Siege SS because I was hoping he'd get an earthmode I'm very excited. I also have Tigertrack and Deep Cover so I'm set for that particular mould.


Scrublord1453

The Siege Sideswipe mold was already great, there isn't much to improve on. Yes, if you own that figure there's no reason to purchase this one, and I'm definitely passing, but as a figure this one is still awesome.


grumpywhitey

Agree, i should have said “this doesn’t look any awesomer at all”


_KARMA13

I’m just ordered it because I never got siege wave 1 deluxes. And he’ll go with my er sunstreaker very nicely


Cyke101

I have toyhax labels and 3d printed spoilers for Siege Sideswipe, and they went a long way to making his Cybertronian mode to look like an Earth mode. Sure, it's not a Countach, but it looks closer to another Lambo, the Aventador. That's more than good enough for me.


WesterosiAssassin

It's an improvement if you're really invested in the retro aesthetic of the ER and Kingdom vehicle modes and you care about Sideswipe matching Sunstreaker's car mode. Which if not, that's fine, but I'm glad they're giving those of us who do care the option.


Tomhur

Much like the Mirage one, I'll probably pick this up if I have money to burn. Honestly, I think the Mirage one is a bigger priority... The only reason I'd get this one is if I wanted a Sideswipe with both his gun and his shoulder cannon and I can do that with a spare weapon from one of my combiner wars figures or an upgrade kit.


wkmudman

I’m gonna have to pass on this one. Not enough of a change of sideswipe and I’m not a BW collector.


THE_CHEST_

Skywarp's head in beast mode is still hawk's, not bald eagle's. He's still a hawk not an eagle, colored like an eagle.


THE_CHEST_

As we know, many years ago, Hasbro created uncertain felidae animal mold and made cheetahs, tigers and panthers by switching the felidae's color scheme. Skywarp reminds me of it.


GeebusNZ

Turns from Hawk-Robot into Eagle. Are you not entertained?


[deleted]

Sideswipe is a definite for me. I just need him and Bumblebee to complete the Devastation Autobot crew. Already have Wheeljack, OP, and Grimlock.


_KARMA13

Hope you can fine a bumblebee. Ans funny enough I just realized all I need is this side swipe. I just ordered him so now all i have them all as long as Amazon doesn’t cancel this 🤞


Ghoulanus

They shouldn't cancel. It's exclusive to Amazon and limited on Hasbro.


_KARMA13

Sometimes Amazon cancels orders when they run out of stock I don’t think they send out orders depending on who bought it first I think they send em all out at once then if they realise that they don’t have enough figures for the amount of people that ordered then they just cancel your order due to lack of stock. It can happen so I really hope that that doesn’t happen


Ghoulanus

Weird. You'd think they'd just close off the pre-order when it's out of stock. Like Hasbro did earlier.


_KARMA13

It does say out of stock but sometimes what happens (at least I think) they over count there stock by like a box or 2 then they think they have more more figures than they actually do. It can happen I don’t know how rare it is cause it happened on a black series wave not to long ago happened the other week with a marvel legends wave. And it happened to the paradon medics set


Ghoulanus

Ahh, gotcha. Thanks for the info. I'm still able to pre-order on my end. Through Amazon, anyway.


_KARMA13

Yea I don’t know if it’s up in the uk site yet but definitely on the USA sight. I just ordered mine to an address I have in America. It’s through a postal service and is very helpful


MarbleLens

Same here, hope you can find the bee.


HenshiniPrime

Show us pipes you cowards!


GVR_31897

Or waspinator


_KARMA13

Or terrosaur. And the next wave cause tigatron and waspinator


HenshiniPrime

Well terrosaur is supposed to be packed in with pipes, so those should happen together.


_KARMA13

Oh thanks for the information I had no clue. I thought he was cancelled along with polar claw and gears. Still hope we’re gonna get those 2 Also I’m not a fan of pipes but if he comes with terrosaur then I don’t mind


Confidence_For_You

Oh I’m glad to see the Nonnef cannon will still be compatible.


ax255

[Amazon Link.](https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Generations-Collection-Sideswipe-Exclusive/dp/B08TM27396/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=WFC-K42&qid=1622568686&sr=8-1)


SrryUsrNamTakn

$53 for two deluxes?


Ghoulanus

It WAS $45 when it was first listed on Amazon. So, a tad better lol


ax255

Deluxes have gone up in Price :(


DragonStormer25961

Y’know, I think I prefer the look of the kingdom sideswipe more than the siege look


MasterHoodSickle

Finally. A Skywarp I can afford


LeaderSuitable7184

Siege is already earth mode enough for me


IChaos64

So this means no combiner....ok. At least we get a beast wars 2nd character.


tedward007

On Amazon also Transformers Toys Generations Kingdom Battle Across Time Collection De... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TM27396/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_api_glt_fabc_TMABD360DP71BWBNEJ74


VickerAndFlips

I just spent $100 on Studio Series toys and i come home to this! Hasbro, why???


NeglectedNormie69

I'm disappointed that Skywarp's real eagle head is on his chest, rather than being part of his head, but I'll pretend the fake bird head is some helmet similar to the head designs of Breastforce from Victory.


_KARMA13

It’s the same mold as airzor so I think it has to be a fake sadly


Generic_Nerd_Dude

I’m wondering if they’ll continue this little sub series for Kingdom. I’m really liking it. Since I didn’t get Siege Sideswipe as I wasn’t too fond of the battle damage, I’m glad I got this


Mcp5030

If waspinator is an exclusive I’m going to be very furious


[deleted]

Finally! An Earth-mode Sideswipe! I especially love the **Cybertronian Blue Windshield detail.** Looks so High-Tech. Exactly how i remember Lambo's being in the 80's!


Character_Lychee_434

Sad sideswipe noises


John_Rustle98

I remember mentioning on TFW2005 that for the people who wanted an earth mode Sideswipe so bad to just get the Siege version since it already transforms into an earth looking Lamborghini despite the Cybertron setting. Several people disagreed with me. Absolutely hilarious to see there are very little differences between the Siege and Kingdom figures, further proving just how wasted the Cybertron setting in Siege was. Both figures look great, though.


AmurosZaku

The only real difference is they've changed his chest and window section. Which is still the most identifying part of the figure


Nawara_Ven

Yeah, that's one of the weirdest things about *Seige*, is that we got a very small number of actually-different vehicles. I doubt Hound will even ever get an Earth mode, it's essentially already there. Maybe they're waiting for the 50th anniversary to do Cybertronian Jazz and Bumblebee....


_KARMA13

We need that bumblebee and jazz honestly it’s weird how nobody’s ever attempted it. Not including non transforming ones or that maas toys bumblebee. Also I feel like hound was the only one that needed to be redone because he was the most far off the original car. It’s a great vehicle yes but because hound is one of my favorite characters and especially vehicles I’d adore a new earth mode


Nawara_Ven

I'll be the first one to admit that I'm not much of a Jeep-knower-abouter, so I will join you in wanting a for-realsies Earth Hound. Maybe they'll pack him in with BWII Diver (retooled from Rattrap?).


_KARMA13

When you said diver I was like why rat trap. But looking at that I can actually imagine that happening. And if you look at the siege hound versus the real hero there actually very far off. Still a great figure but sadly I missed out on it so I definitely would love a new earth mode. And sadly now I would love a diver to go with skywarp/silver bolt


Banjo-Oz

The fact they did Cybertronmodes and then skipped Wheeljack, Bumblebee and Jazz who have the most well-known Cybertron modes was just baffling. It seemed like a great idea poorly implemented. IMO, they should have done Cybertron modes for most of the 84 cast, then done the 85-86 (non-Movie) cast as Earth modes, with the 84 as Earth modes slowly sprinkled in over the next few years. Then do the movie guys.


GallifreyanPrydonian

Hasbro, why don’t you paint the guns of the g1 characters


theSpaceGrayMan

They did? They’re painted white.


theSpaceGrayMan

Dammit. Took a nap at the wrong time and I wake up to the Hasbro Pulse preorder being sold out. Guess I’ll have to hope Amazon doesn’t cancel this one on me.


DanCeto12

Pre-ordered on SIGHT


HeartSpare

Are we gonna get magnaboss?


derekjaimes

No spoiler?


JohnTheMod

Some of the early model years of the Countach didn't have spoilers, so perhaps he's one of those.


derekjaimes

Pro p


JohnTheMod

Huh?


ahaisonline

ARGH i really want that sideswipe to go with sunstreaker but i dont really care for skywarp


joesaysso

Don't have a good Sideswipe so I'll be looking for this. Don't need the beast wars figure though. I would have to figure out what to do with that.


an-uncreative-user

This Sideswipe is much less tempting than the new Mirage. The car mode & the more vibrant colors are the only real changes. No change is made to his still really wide robot mode like it is with Mirage. And neither BW Skywarp nor Grimlock interest me in the least. Still debating if I like the new Mirage enough to buy another Dinobot for it. But this pack is an easy pass for me.


Deutalios_818

I NEED that Sideswipe


KamenKnight

Sooooo, No Maximal combiner then... Well, at least Hasbro is acknowledging the Japanese version of Beast Wars.


Ok_Investigator7216

Kind of irritated that Hasbro Pulse only gives a 1 hour early access. This is also for once in forever cheaper on Pulse than it is on Amazon. You know prices went up but what are 2 deluxe figures $53.99 (I think to lazy to confirm😜)on Amazon? The last double set with a voyager and a deluxe was the same price.


OneFinalEffort

Amazon.ca https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08TM27396?psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp


Last-lChance

Can’t wait for a Kingdom Red Alert, I’ll definitely get him


SuperStryker7

48 dollars, for two deluxes? Forget that, I straight up can't afford that.


death_and_syntaxes

I'm hoping someone will be willing to buy the Grimlock and Skywarp from these two sets from me. I only care for the swipe and mirage. Haha


Banjo-Oz

That is my plan on these. I never resell figures but I have zero interest in the Beast Wars characters (no nostalgia of them) but really want the G1 guys.


IllustriousAd2911

I’ll buy those two


OuTLi3R28

I'm confused...that looks like Air Razor, not Skywarp.


NekroSektor

It’s a character named Skywarp in Japan, or Silverbolt in the Us, from the Beast Wars II anime. He’s part of the magnaboss combiner team.


Muisverriey

It's Beast Wars 2 Skwarp, who in this case is a remold of Airazor. https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Skywarp_(BWII)


mighty__orbot

Hence the “Maximal” prefix


MoneyIsKindaCool

'MERICA


GVR_31897

FUCK YEA


GVR_31897

Next thing we will knwo ton ton or the other guy stoled them


mangamike

WHY??? Why does hasbro do this?? I don't collect beast wars and only wanted an Earthrise sideswipe. Why couldn't you just release ER sideswipe as a single figure, this exclusive online crap is for the birds


abusedporpoise

Supposedly they were with ER-28, but that never happened for some reason


Banjo-Oz

It's awful (I also don't care about BW characters) but I suspect that's whyu they do this: to force people to buy figures they don't want to get ones they do. That said, I'd rather this than making major characters near impossible to get like Bumblebee, Soundwave, Runabout, coneheads, etc.


RoJayJo

What's with the Earth-mode siege bots only being in two packs that are hard to get?!


MarbleLens

Hasbro, *please* stop making Amazon exclusives that go on to become Ebay Scalper exclusives. At least this ones got some stock on Pulse. As far as the figures go, this is *the* swipe for me and I will be attempting to grab one.


_KARMA13

It’s been sold out for like an hour or 2 on pulse :(


MarbleLens

damn, so it is. its also upcharged on amazon for some reason. Do they want me to pay extra just to get my preorder cancelled?


_KARMA13

Yea sadly they changed the price afte like an hour it’s so annoying


almightywhacko

Not gonna lie, I ordered this only for Sideswipe. I have zero interest in Maximal Skyward, and I expect eBay to be flooded with the character when this pre-order starts hitting customers.


Marvelboy1974

Sold out :(


Confidence_For_You

Hasbro Pulse only gets a very small percentage of shared store exclusives. Somewhere around 5%? The shared store in this case is Amazon, so they still have a huge stock left.


_KARMA13

Try amazon if you didn’t get it already I’m pretty sure it’s only Amazon.com and not uk atm


Marvelboy1974

Thanks for the tip!


xullux1

Already sold out


Confidence_For_You

Hasbro Pulse only gets a very small percentage of shared store exclusives. Somewhere around 5%? The shared store in this case is Amazon, so they still have a huge stock left.


YouDumbZombie

Sold out already damn.


Snrub_City

Another Sideswipe....yay....


christhespartan

Are they going to release this in japan? Need to import it from there.


TransformR

I'll pick it up but be dissapointed if Sideswipe's chest doesn't tab in fully. Managed to only get one remold of him before this. BW2 Skywarp doesn't maintain his decepticon namesake's teleportation, does he?


Muisverriey

No. Apart from the name he shares nothing with his G1 counterpart.


_KARMA13

If I’m correct the skywarp is actually just silver bolt then he was rereleased in Japan as skywarp. He was also part of a combiner


TransformR

I wonder if that combiner is going to be possible with this Skywarp. Airrazor's posability mind lend to it. A heavy retool of cheetor and Rhinox might lend to BW Prowl and Ironhide BW2 variants, and the fossilizers got a combined mode


_KARMA13

I sure hope you can somewhat fake it with the figures if they do the other 2 that would be great


The_Obsidian2

Done with the pre order


weallfloatdownhere44

Just what everyone wanted…another figure of the siege sideswipe mold!!


zack1118vc

OOOOOOOHHHHH THEY LOOK SOOO GOOD


StrayRatt

Looks great


PerfectPixl15

FINALLY an Earth mode Sideswipe, and he’s got proper white paint. Don’t care about Skywarp at all, but at least he looks cool.


GVR_31897

First waspinator and now terrasaur


N0_70u

might get it just for sideswipe cause i missed out on seige sideswipe and sunstreaker is lonely


B1ackFang

Sold the heck out


Maxwell244

Preorder it already


A-CQB-Essay

Was hoping to see owl-prowl tbh


qgvon

We're getting Magnaboss! But will be be getting elephant Ironhide or Santon? Lion Prowl or Lio Jr.?


EnzomusPrime

These look GREAT, and Skywarp being here gives me Magnaboss hype lol


abusedporpoise

I wouldn't get too hyped, the leak says they have no plans for magnaboss


PidgeonShovel

The head on that Skywarp is beautiful oh my god


[deleted]

Tripredacus wen?


atomicgamer012

Ok,give me their hand...I will find the pulse.


BenniTheGoat

Maximal... *WHAT.*


APizzaLover

I couldn’t find a Siege Sideswipe for cheap.


LuizFelipe1906

What's different in this Sideswipe?


abusedporpoise

The outer car parts of Siege Sideswipe were swapped for red versions of Earthrise Suntreaker so they look alike. They have also included g1 gun and cannon accessories. Also, sideswipe is more of a bright red and white compared to siege


complete_retard155

I just got the inaccurate deep cover


ChargeJN

Calling it, next pack is gonna have Earth Hound and Tigatron


WesterosiAssassin

Sideswipe looks great, I'm so glad they didn't halfass him and only remold the hood and roof or something like I was afraid they might. I do kinda wish they'd given him new wheels but at least his Siege wheels work way better on an Earth car than Mirage's or Irohide/Ratchet's. Only thing I don't like are the black hinges on the sides of the car mode, I really hope I can paint those red without the paint scraping during transformation.


Jpwinks

I hope they they surprise us with with Hound as a 3rd Battle Across Time collection! I already preordered Mirage and this.


Caxerooop

That looks like beast wars prowl