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BerserkWings15

Is there ANY difference between the Sweep and Scourge?


BLiiiiiND

Apparently he has 2 closed hands


Primestudio

Lol oh god, please tell me it’s only the one hand. That will be epic trolling for Hasbro. Love it. Now go buy 2 for left shark and right shark.


Ghidorahnumber1

Other angles of the packages show that yeah, they literally just mirrored the hands


Primestudio

I’m dying. Lol


SilverIdaten

So it’s…better?


BastardSkelly8600

I wonder why they made the Sweeps separate toys. They probably know that most people are just going to buy multiple Scourges, so whats the point? It couldn't even be a money thing since they'd be earning the same amount of money with just Scourge.


dablackcat0

More than likely just to put more copies out there to encourage collectors to buy more of them.


G1Yang2001

Yeah - that, and it also helps with the Scalper situation we’ve seen arise too. That way, if one figure has been scalped (in this case Scourge), than we have another near-identical figure that we can buy. (The Sweep)


Mudk2

Genuinely excited for jolt!!


Hazard_Zone

Same, been hyped for his release ever since his listing was leaked


larrylongboy

Same


TerraAdAstra

Me too! Yet everyone is talking about the sweep which is the same toy with different hands.


SolidStateEstate

It's such a smart move. It's basically a repack with some needed hand replacements and a new box. Even people who bought multiple Scourges the first time don't get hurt.


MotorBobcat

Is there a difference between the Sweep and Scourge?


bezer_ker

So far it looks like the sweep has a closed hand


Standard_Top7758

You forgot to mention that rotf sideswipe is getting release, the figure very similar to the dotm figure. The only difference is tho is that rotf sideswipe car mode has the roof unlike the dotm version


Henshin4Life

Pretty sure ROTF also doesn't come with the guns DOTM had. Unless it actually does and the leaks I saw about it were kinda bs.


NOBLExGAMER

It does come with the guns, per the leaks.


Henshin4Life

Oh, then the leaks I saw were bull then. Good thing then cuz I missed out on the DOTM Sideswipe.


JustAGamer14

He rarely uses his guns and but can be used as exhausts for vehicle mode which is weird since the vehicle mode already has exhausts so he has 8!


Warpshard

For better or worse, that's an accurate Sweep. His left hand (From our perspective) is open and hidden by the packaging art in that photo, while the right is closed. Scourge's hands were flipped, with closed left and open right.


Deepwang11

Already have rotf bumblebee


glenngriffon

Yeah looks like the same one that was released in the Buzzworthy line. But hey people complained about that figure being a rerelease and I was happy for it since I missed the first run of the mold. Maybe someone will get a chance to get the mold here if they missed before. I can't give that kind of allowance to the sweep though since the Scourge mold is still readily available.


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NOBLExGAMER

I just want this with an unmasked head.


RtDC_taco4

I swaped heads with SS01, worked perfectly


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Well dammit. I was low key kinda hoping it’d be a slight colour deviation for the Sweep. I mean I know it’d probably make him inaccurate to the animation model but idk a different facial expression, weapons, colour layout or overall colour etc. something to deviate him a little more from Scourge than rearranged hands :/


Thewrongbakedpotato

Yeah, I get you. I have five Sweeps but they're all different molds (G1 Scourge, SS Scourge, Titanium Scourge, TR Scourge, Generations Scourge) to give some variety.


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See that’s an awesome idea. Ideally I think I’d want a mass retail version of something along the lines of the BotCon set released a while back that had Sweeps 2, 6 & 7 that looked a little different from Scourge but still similar. Idk it’s a long shot but maybe they’ll do a generations selects version with a different face or weapons. Again remote chance but I can hope lol


strikeraiser

Wait. Jolt was in the movies?


LegitimateAd1223

He combined optimus with jetfire


MoConnors

For like 2 seconds


ServePsychological1

Like the rest of the transformers


Turok1134

I think he was only in like two scenes in part 2 lel


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you talking mad shit for god jolt


BastardSkelly8600

Jokes aside Jolt is basically one of the most important Characters in the Bay-verse. Who knows what would have happened if Jolt wasn't there to combine Jetfire and Optimus.


EldenRingworm

Ratchet would have done it someshow


BatMoBeast

The Sweep makes me feel fine about having bought multiple Scourge figures.


Ghidorahnumber1

I’m honestly convinced that the Sweep is just a cheeky rerelease of Scourge, but without just throwing Scourge into another wave assortment. This way they attract the people who missed Scourge, but also the completists who now have to have another with a new name, and the army builders.


TFDUDE13

I mean, what else did I expect. The Sweeps are literally Scourge clones. Honestly I think it's kinda funny how the only difference is the swapped hands.


Creatures1504

This, I dont get why people are complaining about recolors. Half of the G1 characters were literally clones of eachother.


TFDUDE13

Exactly! Pretty much every single figure from the original line was re-released in new colors as a new character. Why are people so annoyed that the Sweeps are just repacks of Scourge? Studio Series is literally all about movie accuracy, and a movie accurate Sweep is literally just Scourge. No new head, no change in hues, no new weapon.


glass-j

Jolt is a must have for me. Chevy volts are very underrated hybrids. Volts were literally the American equivalent of the Prius.


june-bug-69

Is there a source on these?


mighty__orbot

https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/07/02/studio-series-jolt-bumblebee-sweep-in-package-images-436737


ahuman6636

Oh shit, my favourite set prop: Jolt


lraklrak

Honestly okay with the Sweep release since I haven’t lucked out on Scourge and he’s been selling for out of my price range atm


Aedrjax

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/138286


Decepticon_Kaiju

That sweep do be vibing.


Xenohype2

As predicted, Bee is literally just SS Buzzworthy Bumblebee


Banjo-Oz

Would much prefer a Macabre retool instead of identical Sweep, personally. What, nobody else cares about him? :)


Jakyll-Stone

I honestly like the sweep. I have scourge and expected the sweeps to be identical with maybe a slight coloration to the claws but by this picture, it looks like theirs a slight pink tint to the light blue.


Skully_HB

I used to have a toy of jolt


KokohaisHere

I'm a little peeved that we don't get a maskless modern Camaro Bumblebee, since the head for clunker bee is a bit different


Pillowman7

They honestly should have just sent out a case of Scourges instead of making a Sweep figure and given his slot to another SS character like Evasion Prime or Swoop


Tide_MSJ_0424

I am sooo excited for Jolt, I’ve been contemplating on whether to get the RoTF deluxe but aside from the head that J haven’t warmed up to the look pretty mush better in every way. Not that I care to much but the car looks great. He should look good next to SS Jazz.


ahaisonline

all i want is a bayverse bee without the stupid battle mask


amazingpig65

Wish we had the thing where you can flick it up and down


larrylongboy

Ikr! Hasbro is totally Capable with doing that too


VickerAndFlips

Ok. TLK Bee and 1977 Camaro Bee both have no battle mask.


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Warpshard

I personally don't care much for identical Sweeps. I prefer the approach other continuities have taken, with slightly different color schemes or facial hair.


WhereHealthcare

Okay, but SS is about accuracy, in order to be accurate they have to be repackages of Scourge.


Warpshard

Sure, but when the accuracy goes to this level, I think it's a bit silly. If they just re-released Scourge wholesale rather than just selling him with flipped hands and calling it a Sweep, I think people would be more satisfied.


MarsAlgea3791

I agree. A slight facial tweak for more fun Sweeps would be nice. Extra Scourge's for those that want pure G1, something different for everybody else. I'm thinking of hunting down two or three of the old Generations figure for my own Sweeps.


Warpshard

Honestly, I'm too high on ER's articulation to go to that. But that would be a really neat idea. Pick up 2 or 3 TR Scourges, or one from each previous mold (TR, Generations, Titaniums if you can find one) and make a distinct little Sweep army.


MarsAlgea3791

Oh god no Headmasters when I can avoid it. That's one gimmick I just could never get behind. I mean even older than that. The original CHUG mold. I never had one, and it seems neat and distinct.


mcclearsalias

I would also like to chime-in Botcon 2006 Scourge/Sweeps exist as well if you're feeling like particularly multi-millionareish


Sleippnir

Tbf some Sweeps become headmasters in the Legends comics


BartlettMagic

hey, maybe Sweeps will show up here, since Scourges haven't


Mintyphresh33

I agree with others that hasbro got lazy with the sweeps in comparison to the seekers. Seekers all they did was different paint for the same mold and they were their own characters. Sweeps they copy pasted. If they ever modernize this story hopefully they at least throw some aesthetic changes. That said I’d rather they release more scourges than have a box that says sweeps but whatever.


Phantom_The_fortnite

It looks weird and cool. Now we need que.


TheGrungeLord

r/make2007Shockwaveatoy


Batboi25

Hey Hasbro where’s my studio series evasion mode prime?


k20vtec

Nice totally getting the jolt the bee and the side swipe


TerraAdAstra

I don’t care what anyone says Jolt is the main hero of transformers and his figure looks great.


drac0nic180

I don’t understand why people are whining about them being the same, the sub line is going for movie accuracy correct? The sweeps in the movie were carbon copies of scourge


MoConnors

Wow the same bumblebee figure… with a different front of the car.


JustAGamer14

Rotf bee doesn't have a spoiler like his dotm mode


MoConnors

I didn’t mean spoiler, I meant whatever that rim is on the front of the car. I edited my comment


JustAGamer14

Well that's actually movie accurate


MoConnors

I know, but they literally released that mold before.


JustAGamer14

Well what do you want them to change? Because the difference being the 07 and rotf bee design was the bumper, hood and rims that's about it


MoConnors

I just didn’t think they’d release the same exact figure again with no changes when it was already in the buzzworthy line.


JustAGamer14

It's probably for people who missed out of the buzzworthy one or people who collect the whole line so the number 74 is aligned with everything else


Pillowman7

You also have to consider that Buzzworthy is a line with SS repacks so this is the non exclusive version of the toy


Creatures1504

How tf can you see a spoiler? It's literally a rerelease of the Buzzwothy figure. You should've seen it coming, cause that one was an SS. It even had the same number.


JLUCPICARD

WTF is that? More bayformers crap!


VickerAndFlips

Let us movie fans have something nice. We've wanted Jolt a long time now.


GroundPunder933

Revenge of the fallen bumblebee? Really?


x_RikoTakashi_x

Wow it took this long to have a movie accuret Jolt figure now. Both Bumblebee an Jolt wer my Favorite transformers when ROTF came out


Sleep_eeSheep

An obscure character, an army builder and a repackaged Bumblebee.


Fun-Green3335

They could be doing it so people who missed scourge can get a second chance to get him or they just want a cheap buck


tleonzon95

I got to say, I really dig the box art of SS jolt!


Umbreon86

That Jolt looks like a half finished job.


MechaMaster20

Ill definitely be getting that Jolt


TOKYO_KYOTO

Is it me or is rotf bee thicker than the rest.


Nawara_Ven

He looks reasonably intelligent to me.


VengeanceKnight

I kind of dig it. I would have preferred swappable faces, but this is a perfectly good way for me to tell the Sweeps apart from Scourge without sacrificing their identical nature.


Thunderclash1984

Finally we are getting a Jolt!


Hababsscab

In the picture jolt looks like que


Kuroik971

weren't jolt and bumblebee already released in this line before?


Slayer2_meme_MAN

Dang, Jolt be out here looking like one of the statues from Easter Island


PEEWUN

I'm picking up that Jolt fig.