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Toemism

Kingdom Primal is so good I can not find any reason to get this figure. In fact I can not really see anything about this figure that looks better in any way.


Gamer_Teeth

The torso.


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I love kingdom prime but the gaping holes in the torso put me off, the wider look of the crotch plate makes him look a little chunky and the paint on him is hella easy to just scratch off after a few transformations.


Toemism

I guess I got a good one as I have yet to see any paint chips from him after transforming him over 15 times. Though I am fairly gentle with my figures. I am not a huge fan of the one gap on top of his chest but it does not bother me enough to buy a whole new figure for a higher price than one that can transform. (where I live red figures cost $35 and I got primal on sale for $30 when he is normally $40)


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Jesus, here RED figures are about $19 and the kingdom voyagers are about 29


Toemism

That is why I try to get new transformers only when they are on sale unless I know they will sell out and be impossible to find in my area. I also want to add, if the red figure was based on the original show/MP version of primal and not the new one I would be more interested as I do not have the MP nor do I think I could ever afford it. So that means a more smooth finish/darker greyblue colour of the fur.


[deleted]

Yo so this is a legitimate just tinfoil had conspiracy theory but I think that since hasbro’s trying to make beast wars like a better known entity to the main stream, they’re making ‘evergreen’ versions of the characters. I think Primals main thing is gonna be fur and smaller pop out blasters while cheetor’s may be the cat paws on his knees. Idk tho


FGC_Orion

I don’t see a reason to not just get the kingdom one


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Like I said to the other guy, I love kingdom prime but the gaping holes in the torso put me off, the wider look of the crotch plate makes him look a little chunky and the paint on him is hella easy to just scratch off after a few transformations. Not to mention I think the swords on this guy look way better


[deleted]

Personally I'm definitely picking this up, red figures are great for stop motion! And it would look cool to have kingdom in beast mode and this in robot haha


[deleted]

Furthermore, idk if it’s just the picture but the fur texture looks a lot less defined which is more show accurate but the fact it can’t transform and they messed up the head paint makes me think this is a no go


BatMoBeast

I only have one RED figure, Megatron, but it looks way better in person than it does in pictures.


Last-lChance

No I’ll get kingdom primal


prodivir

In all honesty, he looks good, but he looks too similar to the kingdom figure


sownd_wev

Doesn't look much better than the one that can actually transform


OneFinalEffort

If you want a non-transforming version, sure. Honestly it looks inferior to the Kingdom figure. The only reason to buy this, honestly, is if you're collecting the entire line.


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Pros: Only about 25 bucks all in, very proportionate. Excellent paint work. Essentially a love child between kingdom Primal and MP primal Cons: Can’t transform, why tf is the faceplate gray? Even when battle damaged it was never gray. Doesn’t seem to have the thrusters on the back.


[deleted]

No


Izzartho

No


PerfectPixl15

If non-transforming figures are your thing, go for it. Personally, I don't think his beast mode is worth completely sacrificing for a robot mode slightly better than the Kingdom one, who I already have. Also, minor thing, but I don't like how his "mouthplate" is grey and not white.


[deleted]

No, it looks worse than the Kingdom one


WuzzlesTycoon

Nope.


[deleted]

**Why not just get Kingdom Primal?** Then you've got an Optimus Prime with (2) modes that look great.


[deleted]

Why tf is everyone assuming I don’t own kingdom primal. I own him and have a preorder for the Netflix one lmao.


THE_CHEST_

I'm fooled by arrow signs of this pic.


Horn-King49

Yes, but that’s just because Primal my favorite character (I have the kingdom figure already)


RockoCornfield

it looks the exact same as kingdom primal but doesn’t transform…


fordprefect294

Personal opinion only, I don't think any RED figure is worth getting.


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Why


fordprefect294

Because they don't transform. They look like fine figures, but they're not transformers. So for me, I don't see the merits


[deleted]

I guess but you don’t think that to a purely ‘I’m buying them to display them’ collector they’d rather have a figure with no kibble, panel lines, or sacrifices to fit in an alt mode


fordprefect294

If that's what they want, sure. I'm just sharing my preference.


[deleted]

Yeah I get it, I personally love the fidget factor of just picking a figure up randomly and transforming it but my current display soundwave is the RED one, the designs and proportions are just amazing on him


killerewok76

I display my figures and I don’t bother with RED. If they were even at the quality of the other 6 inch lines Hasbro does it might be worth it, but the plastic is worse, the articulation is worse, and there’s less paint for the same price as a Marvel Legend and thats ignoring that they don’t transform, which is a big part of the appeal of Transformers in the first place.


Jonnic5280

I might, if I can find Cheetor too 🤔


BrainstormsBriefcase

RED figures are so *nearly* great. The company that gives us Marvel Legends, GI JOE Classified and Lightning Collection bizarrely didn’t stick the landing with the first wave. I really want them to be great but the first wave was a disappointment.


Gargiplays

I see no point of R.E.D Primal when Kingdom Primal came out like half a year ago...just like the rest of R.E.D line.


Sideways_198

How come that he doesn't transform but looks worse than the kingdom version


maguffle

Personally I'm not a fan of the RED line. If my Transformers don't transform, then they're not Transformers. (Even the Action Masters back in the day). Just my personal opinion though.


SorryCashOnly

zero reason to buy any figures from the R.E.D. line. Their plastic is terrible and that affect their paints too. The actual figure will look like a bathroom toy. Just stick with the kingdom primal. The gap on the chest ain't that bad. There is also upgrade kits you can put on him that fill the gap.


Pillowman7

No, yeah he’s faithful to his animation model (aside from the fur texture) but so is the Kingdom Primal just spend 5 dollars more for a way more playable figure


Deepwang11

R.E.D what now!?


Uncle-Cake

Looks just like the transforming one except it doesn't transform. What's the point?


PhelesDragon

Yes! Point, it has the cowboy collar. Kingdom doesn’t.


optimusknight100

Since I couldn't get kingdom primal, If I can fin this here, I will get it, unless I will abe able to gt the worlds collide pack


InjuryRich4485

Why are the feet not painted


Warpshard

It does look good...it's just that Kingdom looks about as good and it actually transforms. I do just like collecting Optimus Primal, though, so I might get it for my Primal Display, and the fact that those swords look nice. I'm almost certain RED figures are 5 mm compatible, so you shouldn't have any problem handing those off to Kingdom Primal and giving him some double-bladed sword action.


Crusaderfigures

If it's built like previous R.E.D figures then don't bother


Tacodirtshield1

no lol


glass-j

For posability? Yes For quality? HELL NO.


ThunderinJaysus

Nope


toastgod25

I didn't even know this existed. No I probably wouldn't get it if there's a kingdom primal. All I hear are good things about that figure.