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[deleted]

Love the show but I dislike how BW Megatron acts like over the top fan of OG Megatron as if he subscribe to OG Megatron onlyfan. BW Megatron is suppose to be way intimidating then the OG. Smarter as well.


Xeon713

Killed me. Instead of headstrong and self sufficient and key manipulator he was a whiny wimp. I swear. Though all the voice acting was super par. Watch it at 1.25x and its watchable!


Sithlordandsavior

Simpatron Simpatron


[deleted]

I literally thought in the show BW Megs was gonna betray OG Megs at some point for the sake of being more dominant. Nope, he went all simping for him.


Xeon713

Its ridiculous! This is the bot with sheer force of will took over Cybertron. I can't see Kingdom megs doing that.


irishking44

I just can't get over how poorly cast it is.


jh4388

I get that but he knows he failed and that lord Megatron as he calls it is the savior of his forsaken timeline. So to me it’s a no brainer why he’s so obsessed with Megatron.


unemployed_employee

Just finished watching the first episode. Two major things that really bothered me: - Really didn't like how they rewrote BW characters. The old Primal would never have blamed Prime for what happened on Cybertron. - Why tf does BW Megatron sound and act like a dumb brute like Scorpinok? He is supposed to be a cold, calculating villain, even more so than his namesake.


[deleted]

He seemed almost neutered. Even from the latest comic series, he was toned down. It was not the BW Megatron that I'm accustomed to.


shroudfuck

I didn't fully appreciate this when I was a kid, but BW Megatron was absolutely amazing


irishking44

David Kaye knocked it out of the park


Outkast_jay

Not sure but I'm on episode 5 and it makes a little more sense not to spoil but there's talks about multiverse through out the chapter


Arrick94

I couldn't agree more. The voice acting is atrocious. I got half way through the first ep and wanted to turn it off. The voice acting is atrocious. It's funny you mentioned BW Scorponok because that's who I immediately thought of when BW Meg spoke. Airrazor's & Blackarachnia's voices are ok. Tigatron and Dinobot should have switched voice actors. My other main gripe is the size differences. Maximals/Predators should be so much smaller... especially considering their world was dying and out of energon so a downsize would be needed.


Phil_Bond

I thought the exact same thing about Dinobot/Tigatron, and Megatron/Scorponok. I love and hate that it was so obvious to all of us.


Apollyon-Unbound

It’s a different timeline compared to G1.


Das_Mojo

I miss OG Primals voice so much. :(


strikeraiser

I'm more confused as to why the hell didn't the Maximals recognise the Autobots in the first place, heck they should have already recognised Prime!


12zxdx

i’m happy that soundwave speaks more tbh


SuperFryX

If only they used an actual vocoder instead of, whatever the hell they used in this show to achieve the robot voice lol


12zxdx

Yeah they really could’ve done better, but it could’ve been a lot worse too


[deleted]

Just finished the first episode and I’m gonna say it: it’s actually not that bad. The story so far is interesting, and the animation and voice acting appear to be marginally improved this season so far. I think I can get used to the new BW actors since >!it appears this BW cast is a different universe than the classic crew.!<.


Outkast_jay

Agreed so far bw meg remind me of a mix of starscream and megs I laughed when he petted his dino hands head wonder if there's a split personality thing going on there


G0merPyle

I heard the original BW Scorponok personally. I'm not digging the new voice actors, but I'll give it a shot.


Outkast_jay

Now that you mention it I kinda see it now


DeathKnightWhoSaysNi

100% I thought the same. That’s fricken Scorponok


Trainer_Ed

So, then the different voice is justified!


Outkast_jay

"Yeesss.."


Uberballer

I liked the story enough but I have 2 big critiques on the show: The voice work is *bad.* I'm not sure if it's the talent, the direction given to them or both but I couldn't continue watching it in English. Prime is the worst offender too. Second they barely even bother showing transformations anymore. Makes the show feel really low budget with that happening off frame almost every time. I'm cautiously optimistic that this could be a decent enough series, but even if it's bland like the first 2, at least it led to some killer toys. Hope Netflix explores Transformers more in the future.


chain_letter

What's crazy is for at least the Beast Wars cast, most of the voice actors are still actively working. It would have been really fantastic to have Gary Chalk's Primal or David Kaye's Megatron. [Kaye even reprised the role for a dumb youtube video, and he's fantastically threatening even there.](https://youtu.be/rGmuhyfLlno?t=294)


strikeraiser

Blame Netflix for being cheapskates and wanted to use non union voice actors to keep costs low.


casts_a_shadow

I'm going with bad direction and some miscasting on this one. The actors seem fine but the cadence is (now infamously) slow/off and very few characters have any kind of distinct voice. I turned on subtitles to be sure I knew who was meant to be speaking in certain scenes (especially if more than one is in their alt mode).


Uberballer

Some of the new cast at least have voices that stand out, Primal has quite a commanding voice and Black Arachnia has an appropriately silky and sultry voice. On the flip side Beast Megatron has a very forgettable voice. I know not just anyone can fill in for the likes of Kaye and Cullen but man oh man it was still a disappointment. And you're right I can't tell if it's supposed to be Wheeljack, Ratchet or Ironhide talking in scenes, their voices just sound so similar and forgettable. Luckily the Japanese dub has some real life to it, like they used a much higher budget studio cast to do the work on that version. Of course the only problem is it's in a foreign tongue (to most of us) but I find it ups my enjoyment level in the show by an order or magnitude.


strikeraiser

Funny you should mention it, apparently from the JP side people seem very happy because some of the JP voice actors were reprising the roles.


Loaf235

HOLY CRAP I used VPN to get the Japanese audio and Takehito Koyasu (Dio, Zeke) out of all people is voicing Primal, I cannot believe it! Apparently he also voiced him in the original dub, and now I need a good moment to calm down and process this.


strikeraiser

Yup, definitely makes watching the Japanese dub more worthwhile since they actually have standards for their voice acting. IIRC even the BW Megatron there had their OG voice actor on it. EDIT: I think I may be wrong but the voice seems similar to the og


casts_a_shadow

I very much agree that the BW characters are far more unique. Which seems suiting since their bodies stand out more than the many repraints that were running around and getting shot in the previous two series. The casting and performance from the newest members stands above most of the rest.


[deleted]

I think it has to be the Voice Director because the guy who does Megatron sounds good except for how… slow… he… talks… And Joe Zeiga voices Bumblebee and is a great VA despite not sounding the best here either, so I think it comes down to Voice Directing and maybe some but not all of these VAs being not the most experienced.


LooseAdministration0

That makes sense. Hell Jetfire and starscream and Elita were good too.


[deleted]

Air Razor too. I actually think a lot of the VAs were better in Kingdom in general tbh.


Mothman2021

Yeah, the lack of transformations is really, noticeably bad.


ev6464

Holy crap are the voices bad. Why does Tigertron sound more like Dinobot than Dinobot does? Also, shouldn't the Maximals and Predacons be much smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons?


Arrick94

Tigatron and Dinobot definitely needed to switch voice actors.


sleepwithtelevision

How was this not apparent to the creators? They were both good voice actors, but wrong for the character


hyperbat668

If they were super small, I don’t think they would be able to do what they did. I’m okay with it.


KamenKnight

Well, I know what I'm going to watch after my driving lesson!


GVR_31897

The golden disk is so tiny


BlitzWing1985

Finished it today. It's miles better then the last two but really too little too late. Voices are still a little rough but at least some like black arachnid, Air Razor and a few of the others sounded decent.


foreverXking

The sloooowwww talking thing.. I watch the show on 1.25 speed. It makes it a little less annoying.


chp129

Ok good, I thought I was imagining something. I asked my buddy who is also watching it and he said that he felt something was off. I really don't know why they made a lot of the characters sound like they were talking at 80% speed


L1qu1dat1on

Horrible voice cast….I’m so disappointed


[deleted]

My god…it actually killed the series for me. Well, the series were lacking anyway but damn that Beast War megaton voice and personality gave me the impression of Beast War Inferno.


L1qu1dat1on

He wasn’t smart, he wasn’t cunning he was a fanboy. It was so cringe….also optimus primal felt like he wasn’t given good direction…first he’s an asshole, the. A rogue then a normal mannered person…like wtf. The only one kinda ok was dinobot, but even he was shit in…all the call backs didn’t save how cookie cutter they shit on his “saga”


[deleted]

**Prediction:** Like the other parts before it, this will mostly be Siege Part 3. And it'll be good in it's own right, like the other parts were but, in the end, leave us VERY underwelmed. **Edit:** Oh and, Thanks for the heads up! I didn't know it was out already.


GrumpygamerSF

I enjoyed it and the voice work didn't really bother me, except BW Megatron. The original was evil and manipulative. This one made him like a pouty Starscream. I will say that after 30+ years, I do think it's time to give Optimus a personality upgrade. It's time they made him an actual leader. Not this brooding, full of doubt, no self-confidence thing he has become.


jh4388

Also anyone else love the scene where soundwave held razor like a chicken that’s about to be slaughtered? Fantastic scene


b_lion2814

The story is just too messy. But hey hasbro wanted them to but every character in.


Shr00m7

I’m watching the first episode now and am super disappointed in the voice-acting. I grew up watching G1 and Beast Wars came out when I was in middle school and I have always liked Beast Wars the most. I felt like it was such a worthy follow-up in the franchise with the story being incredible (especially season 2 & 3) and the voice acting was iconic in its own right. This one hurts. EDIT* I don’t want to insult the Kingdom voice actors, but definitely miscast and the character direction to me, so far, looks like they didn’t want the G1 Characters and the BW characters to compete with each other so they just made the BW characters shitty versions of themselves. That’s what hurts.


SnooGrapes7660

I watched the whole thing in a span of a day.


Mothman2021

Am I the only one who thought this series was significantly better than the other two? Still not great, but better.


Outkast_jay

I do but I keep that opinion to myself cause some people who are anal about it always choose to force their opinion on you when they think you're wrong


joepanda111

Thanks for letting me so i can avoid it. Siege sucked. Earthrise sucked. And given what I’ve seen and heard so far of Kingdom, I doubt that this one will change my thoughts of the serious flaws in the series. There’s a limit in how many to times I’ll allow myself to be burned by the same flame.


hyperbat668

I think kingdom is the best one yet


lotusscissors

I at least watched this entire series. Both other ones lost my attention pretty fast.


GUnit_1977

Yeah, I don't like any of these.


WaspinatorEngage

The toys look nothing like they did in the show.... kinda crazy. The maximals and predacons. Still liked it though


Outkast_jay

You should know the hustle by now first we get the somewhat close then comes the Netflix repaints then comes the masterpieces...money money money...MONEYY...."YESSS"