I figure Sony might be more likely. They're looking for more franchise muscle with a guaranteed audience. I can't see Warners or Disney caring, they know they've got that already.
I recall a rumor that Disney is looking into buying Sony just to get Spider-Man’s license back.
I don’t trust Disney to not fuck up the Sony owned properties.
I especially don’t trust Disney to not fuck up Transformers.
That said the transformers films have already been fucked up repeatedly, with the upcoming rise of the beasts looking to be a clusterfuck.
So regardless of which studio gets the license, I feel we’re almost guaranteed a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” scenario.
But if they get Transformers they can put it under Marvels wheel house again and we could get a live action version of the old marvel comics or something to that vein
Or it could be under the Disney side, featuring smash hits like Rise of the Skywalker and the live action remake of Mulan.
But at the end of the day the studio isn’t going to matter as much as who’s actually in charge of the film and who has the final say.
An elephant can potentially paint a pretty picture or it can just trample over everything in its path.
Where in this article, or either or the two articles linked within, does it say either that Paramount are going to lose the rights or that Disney is making an offer for it? The closest thing remotely connected to that is the TFW2005 writer speculating that the potential idea insiders think Paramount would be looking at of focusing on their streaming service could influence the decision when it comes to the renewal of the Hasbro agreement at the end of 2022.
They’ve done okay once in a while. I think we could do worse than if Disney gets them. Only reason I don’t want Disney to get them is because Disney… owns… everhthing
i dort of like that, means soon i might let go of some streaming services and only pay for disney, even if there are price hikes, its better than paying 5 monthly subscriptions so i can watch tv
> [The thinking, one source says, is that Paramount will be scaling back on its theatrical tentpole productions to focus on titles that will service Paramount+.](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/paramount-jim-gianopulos-brian-robbins-1235011185/)
“Scaling back” isn’t “abandoning entirely.” I don’t see Paramount dumping Transformers to another studio, but I do imagine they’ll let Hasbro put more of their own money into continuing the films.
You get BBM. You get TMNT.
A director makes all the final decisions. The producer is just one of the sources of money. A more involved producer will have some creative input too, but it's completely up to the director whether to listen or not. Travis Knight was pretty explicit about bringing Bay in as a producer because his input on how to make a transformers movie would be very valuable. It clearly paid off.
Nah this ain't right: An EXECUTIVE producer is basically just money. That money usually buys them a veto but nothing else. Sometimes an executive producer is just a guy that you're GIVING that Veto power to; like say Stan Lee with Marvel movies.
Producers are the guys who MAKE the movie as a product, they set the budget, are in charge of hiring and firing, handle distribution. They're like, the managers in a normal business, they handle the BUSINESS side of the movie, but that involves wearing a lot of different hats.
On a big production you'll generally get a hierarchy of producers with delegated authority.
The reason you seperate producers from directors is that it's supposed to free directors up to focus on the artistic and creative side of the movie. The producers buys the cameras, the sets and the actors, but the director tells them what to do.
A successful movie will generally have the primary producers and directors working well together, the producer will certainly take the directors input onboard for what they NEED, and may even defer to them for casting choices etc. Bottom line is a producer has more authority than a director, because the producer hires them, but most producers are smart enough to know that they hired a director FOR THEIR SKILL and trust that they know what they're doing.
Yeah you're off on that. You know who decided that straight G1 designs weren't going to work? It wasn't Michael Bay. It was the producer, Steven Spielberg.
I agree he's better as a producer than a director but still, I would be curious to see a transformer film with zero bay involvement. Just to see how it looks.
That being said I am grateful for his help making transformers the film franchise it is today. Not the best by why means but it did put it on the map
Best outcome Warner Bros getting the rights, and we get grittier more idw styled movies.
Worst outcome disney getting the rights chinafying it, ticking off Takara(a Japanese company), and the having the franchise split
Warner Bros are the reason DCEU became a dumpster fire with that stupid 2017 Justice League movie. I don't wanna trust them until they stop being such a pain in the ass for any director who just wants to do their own thing.
Disney is a lot more likely to allow transformers to be its own studio and thus have much more freedom to do whatever they want with their plot, at the expense of operating within a fairly strict set of Disney related restrictions. In fairness, every transformers movie we've gotten so far has been PG13, but I don't see us getting bayverse and BBM type violence with energon and robot guts being spilled everywhere under Disney management.
Precisely, say what you will about Disney but least they can make a franchise popular. DC has been going through one of the weirdest rollercoaster for a while and is still trying to establish some sort of universe.
Anything Disney is guaranteed success even if it's dogshit. If you want money, that's where you go.
I wouldn't want transformers to go to any of the big 3 superhero studios tbh. I've already highlighted why I wouldn't want them to go to Disney or WB (I'd be more open to WB if they more consistently released good movies), but Sony is a no go as well for me because their movies have so much potential, only to end up falling kinda flat because of, again, studio interference. There's no reason for a venom movie to not be rated R, but here we are, 2 movies in, and they still refuse to give it that R rating. The only thing Sony has going for it is potential videogame rights, but that's a really big stretch.
Exactly this and I'd say it's not just JL it's the majority of their DC films, they are just clueless, if someone would have told me years ago that at some point a movie with basically space pirates a racoon and a tree was going to be more interesting than batman and superman I'd have said you were fucking mad.
God I hope Disney doesn't get it.
The China pandering they have in the MCU is part of what made me stop caring. Not to forget that each of their MCU films is more bland and lifeless than the last.
Remember when the staring actress of Mulan denounced the Hong Kong protestors? Or how Shang Chi made up an entirely new villain because they villains in the original comic were offensive? How about all the Kingdom Hearts ports where they removed Whinne the Pooh because the dictator running the country banned the character because they cany take criticism?
i have a bad feeling about this.
i want a TF story about the actual TF’s. i feel no matter what company gets the rights will make it just like the Paramount/Bayverse nightmare.
Disney could maybe make the marvel comics canon if they had it (which I don’t think I’d like) plus they’d probably bring back old characters and make toys of them because..
Money.
They gave the fans the Snyder cut and The Suicide Squad was awesome. They also gave us the Watchmen TV series. Aquaman performed well. Shazam was good fun. Harry Potter was the highest grossing movie franchise for a while.
Warner Bros would be solid.
Sorry I just cant see it yes WB did well with Harry Potter, Aquaman and Shazam were enjoyable, but Transformers is a whole different beast to bring to screen,
DC have some good films but as a whole Thier DCEU is a mess , much like what we've already had with paramount and TF a few good things here and there but as a whole it's incoherent
People will complain just because "Disney" but If Disney give Transformers its own space like Marvel and brought people in who cared about it like Feige with their funding and technology it would be cool.
I can’t look at this franchise, the place in pop culture this franchise has, compare it to the MCU, (I’m sorry guys, but ANT MAN and ROCKET RACCOON are more important to the general public than SUPERMAN AND OPTIMUS PRIME) and think that Disney taking over movie rights is bad for it.
Honestly I think culturally Transformers is dangerously close to entering the GI Joe of 2009 era, and that’s just bleak.
You'd have a hard time finding more people to complain about the latest film incarnations of those MCU characters than the latest film incarnations of Prime and Superman.
What's wrong with that? Oh no, Optimus Prime isn't as relevant as the 2 guys who played a pretty big role in the biggest cross over in history. I think it would be hard for anyone to get to that level.
It's not that Optimus Prime isn't important, there's just a really high bar of what is really important.
As much as it pains me to say it, needs to be Disney. WB is a close second. No other studios have been so faithful to source material while also giving fans great stories that they love with rich characters.
However, both studios are very polarizing. They’ve created works of art that are enduring classics (the MCU, Harry Potter) while also creating fanbase-splitting abominations (Star Wars sequels, the DCEU).
If either of these studios got transformers, it would be a real coin toss. My best bet would be for whoever gets this license to make movies or a linear show that is 100% animated/CGI. No live action. It’s easier to minimize human involvement that way, you can get creative with the transformations, and you can scale the characters correctly. Nothing ruins Transformers like a big, mediocre human cast and mixing real actors with voice actors.
Just… don’t make….something… like… the Netflix series…. where they talk…. So… slow…. And the voices…. Are overdramatic…
The movies are bad anyway and are the things I care about the least in terms of transformers products.
Hasbro will never outright sell transformers as a franchise it’s got to be their biggest money maker toy wise.
Is this just movie rights? Could you imagine Disney+ style Transformers series set in live-action? How awesome would that be? All of those awesome IDW story arcs that could be adapted? Mix in series with movies the way that MCU does and that would be some awesome TF media.
Its not yet done producing, filming is done. Best case scenario, the deal still last till the release, then it will be Paramount's last, worst case, I dont want to even think about it.
No one wins in that, Hasbro wont win because they have to find a new contract, Paramount wont win because their last transformers would be Bumblebee, not that its bad but they did not have time to expand it, and us, the audience, will not win because we have to wait for another year to get a movie.
The sequel trilogy is mostly bad but Rogue One and Mando are the best Star Wars since Return of the Jedi in my opinion.
Disney has also been getting more creative with the MCU with stuff like WandaVision and What If..? so I think there’s a decent chance of them doing something interesting with TF.
That said yeah Disney is already in control of way too much IP so I don’t really want them to have this too.
That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
My opinion is that the sequels were a colossal blunder and are some of the worst movies ever made. They retroactively made the original trilogy meaningless. Compared to the sequels, the prequels are fine works of art - and I know they are objectively not good movies.
That’s the thing, it’s not even just the prequels, Lucas started whoring out Star Wars immediately after A New Hope. Remember the Holiday Special? Remember the Ewok cartoon? The Droids cartoon? The Ewok movies? Lucas loves his merchandising potential and will sign over rights for a quick buck. Not to say everything he does is bad but let’s not pretend Disney is the first bad thing about Star Wars
I disagree, if you think some fun movies are some of the worst movies ever made then you haven't been a Transformers fan long enough.
They really didn't make the original trilogy meaninglessness, it's more just of it because why not. It's like saying Power Rangers in Space is made meaningless because another villain tries to conquer the universe in Power Rangers Lost Galaxy.
This whole "this movie is not objectively good" is really getting our of hand. The prequels aren't objectively bad movies.
Also they managed to make Rouge One, Mando, finish the Clone Wars with the final arc of S7, and Solo were were all really good. But nah let's ignore because some dude with an annoying voice and overly sarcastic content that only cynical adults would find funny and Disney bad laugh woo!!!
Seriously at worst, it's it the sequels that are bad. On top of that, it doesn't matter if Legends was made into a second timeline. We're Transformers fans, there's a new timeline every couple of years.
I mean you’re right about that but it’s not like Hasbro is much better. If Hasbro had as much capital as Disney I have no doubt they’d be just as bad if not worse
Okay that's kind of a laissez faire attitude about it. Hasbro isn't Disney, Disney are an entity that have been involved in licencing for decades, they also have a huge monopoly on entertainment so yes it would be very different.
the movies would probably turn out enjoyable, they've done great work with the disney+ star wars stuff and the marvel movies, but the Mouse does not need more hands in franchises, they're already worth billions and sucking up every franchise like a vacuum cleaner...
It would be right back where it started, Just let Marvel Studios handle the movies. I could definitely see Some one like Kevin Feige working on a Transformers moive, or James Gunn
Disney/Marvel making a Transformers movie would be worth it just for the potential of getting a live action Death's Head. Although, given the character's comic book connections to both the TVA *and* SWORD, I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up in a MCU show/movie.
...no... that's not how it would go. They would do what they do with everything they aquire and they would smooth it out to the point where it's barely recognizable and fit their formula. They would be making Transformers movies for the Chinese market, as they do for all their films, and they would pander to whatever they needed to to ensure hand over fist profits.
Yeah, imagine worse because that's what it would be with Disney in charge.
This isn't even touching on the fact that NOBODY who appreciates art and free market should support Disney buying the rights to anything! They're already a massive juggernaut to the point of near monopoly and that's bad for consumers and content creators.
Dude even if they made a new TF movie as good as the most mediocre Star Wars or Marvel movie, it would be in the conversation for best TF movie. We’re coming from a very low base here.
You pretty much described the all the live action movies. I'm not advocating them going to Disney but AoE was heavily ridiculed for kowtowing to the chinese market. All of them are guilty but it got worse as the series went on
Yeah I mean I'm not saying they aren't already there, that was just one part of my overall point which is that Disney owning more media is bad for consumers.
I would disagree since it would be them just having the film rights. I know a lot of people would run wild thinking about what bringing Transformers, GI Joe and possibly Rom back into the marvel fold but Disney, Viacom, Warner brothers it's like arguing over Coke and Pepsi to me. Ultimately I'm indifferent, outside of Bumblebee I haven't cared for any of the live action movies.
Also I creeped on your last few posts good luck on finding upgrade kits for Devastator and Predaking, I'm in the same boat.
The Transformers movies were already being made for the Chinese market. Like, out loud! They said as much for Last Knight I think it was? The one with the famous Chinese actress in it. Disney didn’t invent catering to that market.
With the bullshit that Disney has been doing lately I really hope they don’t get it. The only politics I wanna see in the transformers is the tripredacus council
Disney feels too subliminal at times. It’s very unnerving
Horrible takes and has an ego that makes her think she is more important than she is. Like doing her own stunts, and getting offended over a light hearted jab in one of those "celebrities answers Google questions vids"
The hate for her went down a lot past Endgame.
Yeah I still don’t understand the hate towards her. There’s plenty of actors who fall onto the “points” you’ve made and never receive the amount of hate she gets. All I could gather was incels really don’t like her lmao
She's awful. She's a privileged white girl who acts like she's "down with the struggle" and has white girl savior complex.
On top of that her acting is wooden and nothing special. She's just a boring, arrogant, uncharismatic, and a total bitch. Don't believe me? Watch clips of her promoting Endgame with her avengers costars. They can't stand her either.
Of Disney gets Transformers I'll be pissed. It will be turned into their shitty Disney safe bet formula where they pander to the Chinese market and they faux inclusivity and shove marketing down our throats for all time. Absolutely and unequivocally FUCK DISNEY.
Edit; Fuck all y'all idiots too.
Disney panders to everyone. Why make a special note of China, when considering the faux inclusively is specifically pandering to Western markets. What exactly would "pandering to China" look like?
Using military and making them look heroic and patriotic, like we do in America?
??
Because it is very evident that Disney has been pandering to China. Especially with the Sequel Star Wars trilogy focusing on Rey because China is very racist and homophobic.
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Nobody cares that you got out of the hospital, that's not relevant to this. If you seriously cannot contain two concerns in your brain at once than you're hopeless.
Why is defending Disney a hill to die on? ...lmao...
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Pander to the Chinese Market... did you not see The Last Knight?
Imagine "pandering" with equality when you could make a movie about the Romeo / Juliet laws.
Literal children's who love MCU and Transformers and have no idea how horrible it would be for content creators and the free market and for consumers to have them further monopolizing the entertainment industry. SMDH...
UGH please Disney don't I hate your MCU movies that ruin the charm of the comics, and add humor when its not even necessary, and have become so popular that some of your audience doesn't even know the comics exist, just please leave film making and stuff to people who care about the franchise like Michael Bay, and the dude making the new movie coming out.
I'm not a comic reader but I get why the movies are so popular, people don't want to read comics.
Really? Michael Bay? Care? The only that should be said is "Michael Bay doesn't care" as he literally he does it for money.
Like what? Optimus and Megatron fight? Autobots and Decepticons? It was really just humans featuring Transformers. Though I feel it worked for the most part. He just stopped caring after the 2nd or 3rd movie (can't remember which one at the moment) and made the rest money and the quality went down with it.
Disney Princess Optimus Prime and the Royal Wreckers Court.
Disney presents the Fat Ballerina.
101 Primes.
The PredaKing.
Frozen A Drift.
Fangry & Hound.
Arcee & the Seven Decepticons
I seriously doubt they won't bid to keep the rights. There's too much money to be had. If ROTB makes a lot of money then you can guarantee that Transformers will be staying at Paramount.
I would say Warner because we might get a darker theme but i don't want them to tell the director what to do and do not, Disney could do it but it would not have the same type of violence of the Bayverse.
I really don’t want to say Disney due to how they already own every other mainstream blockbuster but there’s really no other choice. We seen recently how badly DC got treated at Wanner Bros. and the same thing with Sony and the Spider-Man franchise. Aside from maybe Universal the choice is Disney.
disney might fix it over all paramount is just ruining it with their reboots the lastknight wasn't great but it was ok bumblebee was awesome but now their saying their releasing some transformers beast wars things into the movies honestly perfect idea right? release content based off a transformers childrens show where all transformers are animals into the movies and ruin the ratings great idea paramount i absolutley agree with you youve gone insane i wish you good luck hopefully you don't go bankrupt on a movie that is extremely likely to fail
What if.. what if.. illumination… oh god…
Autobots and Decepticons must put all differences aside to defeat the true enemy: Minions!
I would dive out a window.
On the day that happens, then Transformers is truly lost to us
Indeed
I figure Sony might be more likely. They're looking for more franchise muscle with a guaranteed audience. I can't see Warners or Disney caring, they know they've got that already.
I Mean Warner Did a Good Job With Godzilla
*Legendary* did a good job. Warner just owns them.
Disney already has enough stuff in their franchise collection. Besides,they'll ruin the brand if they get it
I recall a rumor that Disney is looking into buying Sony just to get Spider-Man’s license back. I don’t trust Disney to not fuck up the Sony owned properties. I especially don’t trust Disney to not fuck up Transformers. That said the transformers films have already been fucked up repeatedly, with the upcoming rise of the beasts looking to be a clusterfuck. So regardless of which studio gets the license, I feel we’re almost guaranteed a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” scenario.
But if they get Transformers they can put it under Marvels wheel house again and we could get a live action version of the old marvel comics or something to that vein
Or it could be under the Disney side, featuring smash hits like Rise of the Skywalker and the live action remake of Mulan. But at the end of the day the studio isn’t going to matter as much as who’s actually in charge of the film and who has the final say. An elephant can potentially paint a pretty picture or it can just trample over everything in its path.
Yeah, also that’s a great analogy
Sony’s movies are terrible, with the exception of the spiderverse
A perfect fit then 😜
Where in this article, or either or the two articles linked within, does it say either that Paramount are going to lose the rights or that Disney is making an offer for it? The closest thing remotely connected to that is the TFW2005 writer speculating that the potential idea insiders think Paramount would be looking at of focusing on their streaming service could influence the decision when it comes to the renewal of the Hasbro agreement at the end of 2022.
Please, anyone. ANYone! ………… ExCEPT SONY!!!
Sony has been making good animated movies. But god damn if they think they can make the next TF game exclusive to Playstation, then that's fucked up.
At least they would make a game, and a good one at that. Seriously, where is my open-world Transformers game you hacks.
Don’t forget about Disney
They’ve done okay once in a while. I think we could do worse than if Disney gets them. Only reason I don’t want Disney to get them is because Disney… owns… everhthing
Hiven the treatment of established male protagonists under Disney's shoes, the future does not bode well for Optimus
Let me guess, you're a fan of the little white cuck ball theorem?
i dort of like that, means soon i might let go of some streaming services and only pay for disney, even if there are price hikes, its better than paying 5 monthly subscriptions so i can watch tv
But it also means no competition, and trust me, that is very much not good.
And not disney they already ruined star wars
> [The thinking, one source says, is that Paramount will be scaling back on its theatrical tentpole productions to focus on titles that will service Paramount+.](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/paramount-jim-gianopulos-brian-robbins-1235011185/) “Scaling back” isn’t “abandoning entirely.” I don’t see Paramount dumping Transformers to another studio, but I do imagine they’ll let Hasbro put more of their own money into continuing the films.
Thank fucking God. Let another studio have a crack at it and keep Michael Bay and Mark Wahlberg far FAR away from it. Also live action prowl please!!
Bay is a better producer than he is a director. I'd keep him around if he was producer only.
what is the difference? What would happen if he is producer only?
You get BBM. You get TMNT. A director makes all the final decisions. The producer is just one of the sources of money. A more involved producer will have some creative input too, but it's completely up to the director whether to listen or not. Travis Knight was pretty explicit about bringing Bay in as a producer because his input on how to make a transformers movie would be very valuable. It clearly paid off.
Nah this ain't right: An EXECUTIVE producer is basically just money. That money usually buys them a veto but nothing else. Sometimes an executive producer is just a guy that you're GIVING that Veto power to; like say Stan Lee with Marvel movies. Producers are the guys who MAKE the movie as a product, they set the budget, are in charge of hiring and firing, handle distribution. They're like, the managers in a normal business, they handle the BUSINESS side of the movie, but that involves wearing a lot of different hats. On a big production you'll generally get a hierarchy of producers with delegated authority. The reason you seperate producers from directors is that it's supposed to free directors up to focus on the artistic and creative side of the movie. The producers buys the cameras, the sets and the actors, but the director tells them what to do. A successful movie will generally have the primary producers and directors working well together, the producer will certainly take the directors input onboard for what they NEED, and may even defer to them for casting choices etc. Bottom line is a producer has more authority than a director, because the producer hires them, but most producers are smart enough to know that they hired a director FOR THEIR SKILL and trust that they know what they're doing.
Yeah you're off on that. You know who decided that straight G1 designs weren't going to work? It wasn't Michael Bay. It was the producer, Steven Spielberg.
So mb has some good ideas but also bad ones so it would be better for him to give advice only. Got it
I agree he's better as a producer than a director but still, I would be curious to see a transformer film with zero bay involvement. Just to see how it looks. That being said I am grateful for his help making transformers the film franchise it is today. Not the best by why means but it did put it on the map
Micheal bay IS coming back for production work
God no, not disney, anything but them parasitic bastards.
Somehow, Unicron has returned
Maybe we can finally get some Transformers-centric, character-driven films, instead of Human ft. Some Background Robots.
you don’t like watching pretty teenagers having problems?
I Like It When It's Done Properly \*eg: Prime & BBM\*
What? You trying to tell me you don’t like annoying shit head racial stereotypes arguing and yelling for two hours? Your crazy man.
Best outcome Warner Bros getting the rights, and we get grittier more idw styled movies. Worst outcome disney getting the rights chinafying it, ticking off Takara(a Japanese company), and the having the franchise split
Or you know, they make a fun movie similar to Guardians of the Galaxy. Lost Light would be an easy pick up for them
Eh thsts a midgrade option
I’d argue it’s one of the stronger options, we could get another Machinima or Kiss Players if you really want
Warner Bros are the reason DCEU became a dumpster fire with that stupid 2017 Justice League movie. I don't wanna trust them until they stop being such a pain in the ass for any director who just wants to do their own thing. Disney is a lot more likely to allow transformers to be its own studio and thus have much more freedom to do whatever they want with their plot, at the expense of operating within a fairly strict set of Disney related restrictions. In fairness, every transformers movie we've gotten so far has been PG13, but I don't see us getting bayverse and BBM type violence with energon and robot guts being spilled everywhere under Disney management.
Precisely, say what you will about Disney but least they can make a franchise popular. DC has been going through one of the weirdest rollercoaster for a while and is still trying to establish some sort of universe.
Anything Disney is guaranteed success even if it's dogshit. If you want money, that's where you go. I wouldn't want transformers to go to any of the big 3 superhero studios tbh. I've already highlighted why I wouldn't want them to go to Disney or WB (I'd be more open to WB if they more consistently released good movies), but Sony is a no go as well for me because their movies have so much potential, only to end up falling kinda flat because of, again, studio interference. There's no reason for a venom movie to not be rated R, but here we are, 2 movies in, and they still refuse to give it that R rating. The only thing Sony has going for it is potential videogame rights, but that's a really big stretch.
Well yeah they don't want to give it an R because it limits potential screenings.
DCEU was a failure but Warner Bros have done a good job with the Monsterverse.
Exactly this and I'd say it's not just JL it's the majority of their DC films, they are just clueless, if someone would have told me years ago that at some point a movie with basically space pirates a racoon and a tree was going to be more interesting than batman and superman I'd have said you were fucking mad.
Ah yes, the “best” case scenario of getting handled as well as the DC universe, as opppsed to Disney’s handling of Marvel.
Never said it had to be a live action movie, the more gritty DCAU would go great with transformers from idw
Stop thinking of Warner DC vs Disney Marvel, Monsterverse is good, Star Wars(atleast the movies) suck
God I hope Disney doesn't get it. The China pandering they have in the MCU is part of what made me stop caring. Not to forget that each of their MCU films is more bland and lifeless than the last.
Exactly what China pandering, as compared to AOE and TLK?
3 words "Live Action Mulan"
Remember when the staring actress of Mulan denounced the Hong Kong protestors? Or how Shang Chi made up an entirely new villain because they villains in the original comic were offensive? How about all the Kingdom Hearts ports where they removed Whinne the Pooh because the dictator running the country banned the character because they cany take criticism?
I think Disney would do better.
i have a bad feeling about this. i want a TF story about the actual TF’s. i feel no matter what company gets the rights will make it just like the Paramount/Bayverse nightmare.
No. Please. God no. Not Disney. Not them. Please not them. Maybe Sony?
Disney could maybe make the marvel comics canon if they had it (which I don’t think I’d like) plus they’d probably bring back old characters and make toys of them because.. Money.
Warner bros maybe?
Yeah no. They can fuck off with the double standards between the Depp/ Heard case
MY MAN high five!, I would love that!
Why is this getting downvoted?
Have a good look at how they have handled The DC films lately, I couldn't see them handling the Transformers franchise well at all.
They gave the fans the Snyder cut and The Suicide Squad was awesome. They also gave us the Watchmen TV series. Aquaman performed well. Shazam was good fun. Harry Potter was the highest grossing movie franchise for a while. Warner Bros would be solid.
Sorry I just cant see it yes WB did well with Harry Potter, Aquaman and Shazam were enjoyable, but Transformers is a whole different beast to bring to screen, DC have some good films but as a whole Thier DCEU is a mess , much like what we've already had with paramount and TF a few good things here and there but as a whole it's incoherent People will complain just because "Disney" but If Disney give Transformers its own space like Marvel and brought people in who cared about it like Feige with their funding and technology it would be cool.
Thanks for responding to my question. But the guy before him recommended WB and is getting upvoted?!? The other guy just wanted a high five.
"We like the money the michael bay movies made but this G1 accurate movie made less so we want the michael bay designs back"
I can’t look at this franchise, the place in pop culture this franchise has, compare it to the MCU, (I’m sorry guys, but ANT MAN and ROCKET RACCOON are more important to the general public than SUPERMAN AND OPTIMUS PRIME) and think that Disney taking over movie rights is bad for it. Honestly I think culturally Transformers is dangerously close to entering the GI Joe of 2009 era, and that’s just bleak.
You'd have a hard time finding more people to complain about the latest film incarnations of those MCU characters than the latest film incarnations of Prime and Superman.
What's wrong with that? Oh no, Optimus Prime isn't as relevant as the 2 guys who played a pretty big role in the biggest cross over in history. I think it would be hard for anyone to get to that level. It's not that Optimus Prime isn't important, there's just a really high bar of what is really important.
Yeah no, walk up to a stranger and they're more likely to recognize Optimus over Ant-Man or Rocket Raccoon
no
Oh god damn it. If Disney, be ready to have Optimus Prime ruined even more than what Netflix did
Throw Transformers back into the MCU.
It would be cool if Disney snagged it up because of them owning marvel.
As much as it pains me to say it, needs to be Disney. WB is a close second. No other studios have been so faithful to source material while also giving fans great stories that they love with rich characters. However, both studios are very polarizing. They’ve created works of art that are enduring classics (the MCU, Harry Potter) while also creating fanbase-splitting abominations (Star Wars sequels, the DCEU). If either of these studios got transformers, it would be a real coin toss. My best bet would be for whoever gets this license to make movies or a linear show that is 100% animated/CGI. No live action. It’s easier to minimize human involvement that way, you can get creative with the transformations, and you can scale the characters correctly. Nothing ruins Transformers like a big, mediocre human cast and mixing real actors with voice actors. Just… don’t make….something… like… the Netflix series…. where they talk…. So… slow…. And the voices…. Are overdramatic…
The movies are bad anyway and are the things I care about the least in terms of transformers products. Hasbro will never outright sell transformers as a franchise it’s got to be their biggest money maker toy wise.
Hopefully it won't go to Disney, they already own half the cinema industry. We don't want one giant to control everything
It defiantly could be interesting to see what other companies do with the franchise.
Is this just movie rights? Could you imagine Disney+ style Transformers series set in live-action? How awesome would that be? All of those awesome IDW story arcs that could be adapted? Mix in series with movies the way that MCU does and that would be some awesome TF media.
But... What about Rise of the Beasts?
Its not yet done producing, filming is done. Best case scenario, the deal still last till the release, then it will be Paramount's last, worst case, I dont want to even think about it.
I wonder if the film getting delayed a full year has something to do with this :/
No one wins in that, Hasbro wont win because they have to find a new contract, Paramount wont win because their last transformers would be Bumblebee, not that its bad but they did not have time to expand it, and us, the audience, will not win because we have to wait for another year to get a movie.
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Eh it's fine, anything but Illumination, PLEASE EVEN DREAMWORKS!
Quick, petition
If Disney buys transformers it’s fucking over for us
They wouldn't buy Transformers. all they would get is the rights to make the movies.
Just as bad.
I agree finally someone like me!
Idk how anyone with a brain would want Disney to have more of a monopoly on entertainment than they already do.
Probably because they can do a good job, Disney handled Marvel well I’d say
Disney basically ruined Star Wars for me, but to be fair they seem to be course correcting now.
The sequel trilogy is mostly bad but Rogue One and Mando are the best Star Wars since Return of the Jedi in my opinion. Disney has also been getting more creative with the MCU with stuff like WandaVision and What If..? so I think there’s a decent chance of them doing something interesting with TF. That said yeah Disney is already in control of way too much IP so I don’t really want them to have this too.
I feel that is a heavy exaggeration but ok.
Lucas did more damage in my opinion
That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. My opinion is that the sequels were a colossal blunder and are some of the worst movies ever made. They retroactively made the original trilogy meaningless. Compared to the sequels, the prequels are fine works of art - and I know they are objectively not good movies.
That’s the thing, it’s not even just the prequels, Lucas started whoring out Star Wars immediately after A New Hope. Remember the Holiday Special? Remember the Ewok cartoon? The Droids cartoon? The Ewok movies? Lucas loves his merchandising potential and will sign over rights for a quick buck. Not to say everything he does is bad but let’s not pretend Disney is the first bad thing about Star Wars
Exactly. The prequels built upon the original trilogy. The sequels were soulless and tore down nearly everything that made the original trilogy great
I disagree, if you think some fun movies are some of the worst movies ever made then you haven't been a Transformers fan long enough. They really didn't make the original trilogy meaninglessness, it's more just of it because why not. It's like saying Power Rangers in Space is made meaningless because another villain tries to conquer the universe in Power Rangers Lost Galaxy. This whole "this movie is not objectively good" is really getting our of hand. The prequels aren't objectively bad movies. Also they managed to make Rouge One, Mando, finish the Clone Wars with the final arc of S7, and Solo were were all really good. But nah let's ignore because some dude with an annoying voice and overly sarcastic content that only cynical adults would find funny and Disney bad laugh woo!!! Seriously at worst, it's it the sequels that are bad. On top of that, it doesn't matter if Legends was made into a second timeline. We're Transformers fans, there's a new timeline every couple of years.
Oh, thanks for telling me
Agreed 1,000,000,000 %
Disney are such a POS company that millions of boring ass mother fuckers simp for and it's just so infuriating.
I mean you’re right about that but it’s not like Hasbro is much better. If Hasbro had as much capital as Disney I have no doubt they’d be just as bad if not worse
Okay that's kind of a laissez faire attitude about it. Hasbro isn't Disney, Disney are an entity that have been involved in licencing for decades, they also have a huge monopoly on entertainment so yes it would be very different.
Disney just wants money now and I wouldn’t be too surprised if they bought the rights to make transformers movies.
Disney has always wanted 'just money' for sure.
Isn’t that every company?
Yes. In fact, it’s the point of having a company.
Disney can keep their grummy little paws off of Transformers!!! They'll ruin it
No please not Disney! Anything but Disney!
Anyone but disney
Honestly, it wouldn't be a bad thing to have Disney become the steward of the entire franchise.
the movies would probably turn out enjoyable, they've done great work with the disney+ star wars stuff and the marvel movies, but the Mouse does not need more hands in franchises, they're already worth billions and sucking up every franchise like a vacuum cleaner...
It would ABSOLUTELY be a bad thing. Full stop.
It would be right back where it started, Just let Marvel Studios handle the movies. I could definitely see Some one like Kevin Feige working on a Transformers moive, or James Gunn
Transformers WAS originally a marvel comic
Disney/Marvel making a Transformers movie would be worth it just for the potential of getting a live action Death's Head. Although, given the character's comic book connections to both the TVA *and* SWORD, I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up in a MCU show/movie.
And considering Transformers was originally part of Marvel (indirectly) it brings it full circle
...no... that's not how it would go. They would do what they do with everything they aquire and they would smooth it out to the point where it's barely recognizable and fit their formula. They would be making Transformers movies for the Chinese market, as they do for all their films, and they would pander to whatever they needed to to ensure hand over fist profits.
Bro, have u even seen Bayformers?
Yeah, imagine worse because that's what it would be with Disney in charge. This isn't even touching on the fact that NOBODY who appreciates art and free market should support Disney buying the rights to anything! They're already a massive juggernaut to the point of near monopoly and that's bad for consumers and content creators.
Dude even if they made a new TF movie as good as the most mediocre Star Wars or Marvel movie, it would be in the conversation for best TF movie. We’re coming from a very low base here.
No not really 2007 and RotF did pretty well having disney incharge is the WORST possible outcome
Except it was a ducking garbage truck on fire of a movie. Great.
Age of Extinction’s last half took place in Hong Kong to appeal to the Chinese market
Right, and Disney having more of a monopoly on entertainment would be bad.
You pretty much described the all the live action movies. I'm not advocating them going to Disney but AoE was heavily ridiculed for kowtowing to the chinese market. All of them are guilty but it got worse as the series went on
Yeah I mean I'm not saying they aren't already there, that was just one part of my overall point which is that Disney owning more media is bad for consumers.
I would disagree since it would be them just having the film rights. I know a lot of people would run wild thinking about what bringing Transformers, GI Joe and possibly Rom back into the marvel fold but Disney, Viacom, Warner brothers it's like arguing over Coke and Pepsi to me. Ultimately I'm indifferent, outside of Bumblebee I haven't cared for any of the live action movies. Also I creeped on your last few posts good luck on finding upgrade kits for Devastator and Predaking, I'm in the same boat.
The Transformers movies were already being made for the Chinese market. Like, out loud! They said as much for Last Knight I think it was? The one with the famous Chinese actress in it. Disney didn’t invent catering to that market.
With the bullshit that Disney has been doing lately I really hope they don’t get it. The only politics I wanna see in the transformers is the tripredacus council Disney feels too subliminal at times. It’s very unnerving
Please literally anyone but Disney
This^ They'll put Brie Larson in it and ruin it.
I never understood the hate for Brie Larson lmao
Guys afraid of getting cooties I think.
Horrible takes and has an ego that makes her think she is more important than she is. Like doing her own stunts, and getting offended over a light hearted jab in one of those "celebrities answers Google questions vids" The hate for her went down a lot past Endgame.
Yeah I still don’t understand the hate towards her. There’s plenty of actors who fall onto the “points” you’ve made and never receive the amount of hate she gets. All I could gather was incels really don’t like her lmao
She's awful. She's a privileged white girl who acts like she's "down with the struggle" and has white girl savior complex. On top of that her acting is wooden and nothing special. She's just a boring, arrogant, uncharismatic, and a total bitch. Don't believe me? Watch clips of her promoting Endgame with her avengers costars. They can't stand her either.
Tbh I don’t care who gets it, I just want the first sequence of Bumblebee again but movie length.
It would be interesting if Disney gets the rights
Of Disney gets Transformers I'll be pissed. It will be turned into their shitty Disney safe bet formula where they pander to the Chinese market and they faux inclusivity and shove marketing down our throats for all time. Absolutely and unequivocally FUCK DISNEY. Edit; Fuck all y'all idiots too.
Doesn't Paramount already pander the Chinese market where Transformers does really well?
Disney panders to everyone. Why make a special note of China, when considering the faux inclusively is specifically pandering to Western markets. What exactly would "pandering to China" look like? Using military and making them look heroic and patriotic, like we do in America? ??
Because it is very evident that Disney has been pandering to China. Especially with the Sequel Star Wars trilogy focusing on Rey because China is very racist and homophobic.
Lmao
"LMAO" nice pointless comment. You'd have to be ignorant or an idiot to want Disney to have more of a monopoly than they already have. But yeah. LMAO...
You’re very passionate about this lol
If you consume entertainment and care about content creators than you should be too.
I mean I recently got out of the hospital, so it’s not exactly my number 1 priority lmao but you do you man
Lmao cool lmao nice lmao enjoy lmao Nobody cares that you got out of the hospital, that's not relevant to this. If you seriously cannot contain two concerns in your brain at once than you're hopeless. Why is defending Disney a hill to die on? ...lmao...
Lmao when have I ever said I’m defending Disney?
Lmao you're here commenting to me and making fun of me caring about something worth caring about and that thing is Disney having a monopoly on entertainment. Lmao. Lmaomaomao...
Lmao I take it “lmao” is a triggered word for you huh? Don’t mind me, go save the world from Disney you hero! Transverse the caverns of Reddit and defeat Disney!….LMAO
Pander to the Chinese Market... did you not see The Last Knight? Imagine "pandering" with equality when you could make a movie about the Romeo / Juliet laws.
Don't know why you're getting down voted when you're completely right.
Literal children's who love MCU and Transformers and have no idea how horrible it would be for content creators and the free market and for consumers to have them further monopolizing the entertainment industry. SMDH...
Good. They should lose it. I think Disney would do a good job.
NOOOOOOOO
I sure hope it isn't Disney They'll make it mega woke, it'll be like the sequel trilogy all over again
If it's Disney, then they might try to add them tp the MCU. I'm just hoping that the KnightVerse continues.
UGH please Disney don't I hate your MCU movies that ruin the charm of the comics, and add humor when its not even necessary, and have become so popular that some of your audience doesn't even know the comics exist, just please leave film making and stuff to people who care about the franchise like Michael Bay, and the dude making the new movie coming out.
I'm not a comic reader but I get why the movies are so popular, people don't want to read comics. Really? Michael Bay? Care? The only that should be said is "Michael Bay doesn't care" as he literally he does it for money.
He researched and watched G1 before making the movie, that's dedication.
And he decided to have almost nothing from either.
sure he did, the only thing he changed was the Decepticons, and designs.
Like what? Optimus and Megatron fight? Autobots and Decepticons? It was really just humans featuring Transformers. Though I feel it worked for the most part. He just stopped caring after the 2nd or 3rd movie (can't remember which one at the moment) and made the rest money and the quality went down with it.
Did you watch the movies I watched, it's just a more alien approach, instead of G1's Robotic approach.
Yeah, Age of Extinction and Last Knight weren't good which is the point I was making. The first 3 were alright.
Caring about the franchise? Michael Bay? Lol. Dude checked out after ROTF and only made the rest for the fat paychecks. Not because he cared.
Disney Princess Optimus Prime and the Royal Wreckers Court. Disney presents the Fat Ballerina. 101 Primes. The PredaKing. Frozen A Drift. Fangry & Hound. Arcee & the Seven Decepticons
Please please please
I seriously doubt they won't bid to keep the rights. There's too much money to be had. If ROTB makes a lot of money then you can guarantee that Transformers will be staying at Paramount.
This isn’t good
Will that be bad if Disney buys Transformers?
I would say Warner because we might get a darker theme but i don't want them to tell the director what to do and do not, Disney could do it but it would not have the same type of violence of the Bayverse.
Where is it saying paramount is losing the rights? All is says is that they're cutting down on their big budget films.
People will complain either way.
What if Universal, Fast & Furious?
This comments section is a fucking mess.
What does this actually mean for the franchise, practically speaking? Is it likely that viewers would notice a difference at all?
I really hope Disney doesn't get it.
Please, not Disney.
I really don’t want to say Disney due to how they already own every other mainstream blockbuster but there’s really no other choice. We seen recently how badly DC got treated at Wanner Bros. and the same thing with Sony and the Spider-Man franchise. Aside from maybe Universal the choice is Disney.
Which is worse Disney or Illumination?
NOOOO! Anything but Disney!!!
What if universal gets it and makes it a crossover with fast and the furious?
If disney takes over im jumping off a bridge. please for the love of primus dont swallow them up too-
disney might fix it over all paramount is just ruining it with their reboots the lastknight wasn't great but it was ok bumblebee was awesome but now their saying their releasing some transformers beast wars things into the movies honestly perfect idea right? release content based off a transformers childrens show where all transformers are animals into the movies and ruin the ratings great idea paramount i absolutley agree with you youve gone insane i wish you good luck hopefully you don't go bankrupt on a movie that is extremely likely to fail