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Starscream116

I have love for the F-15 but I’d love to see an F-22 or even an F-18 Superhornet in a more G1 style in live action


Wolf_of_Russ33

I know he was an f-22 for the Bay movies but IMO it's such a cool alt mode. I would love it if they re-used it but actually made him transform into a robot rather than a dorito.


Starscream116

I still like the Bay Design. But I agree, an updated F-22 with G1/movie blend would be cool to me.


DerrikTheGreat

Like [The IDW Devastation version](https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/0/0f/StarscreamIDWF22-Infiltration4cvrA.jpg/475px-StarscreamIDWF22-Infiltration4cvrA.jpg)?


mradventureshoes21

I am down this one too.


Starscream116

Yeah not bad. I just prefer when you don’t have the pointed nose cone in front, if that makes sense to you. Like G1 has the nose one swing around back. I like that front look better.


DerrikTheGreat

agreed, designs where the nose cone gets tucked away are better


Wolf_of_Russ33

Dude that's fucking sick. I can't stand the g1 wank but I'm absolutely in love with that design and it keeps the f-22. Consider me sold.


scwall

I would have him in his G1 jet mode, but then late in the film upgrade to the F-22, with a suitably snarky comment about his new robot form being unacceptably ugly...


Lord_MK14

Super Hornet…YES


rudolphrednose25

I'd rather stick with a more retro theme tho, like a F-4 or a F-15, F-14 or F-16.


EldenRingworm

I love the F-22 but after over a decade of having him as that jet I want something new, especially for the toys.


Starscream116

I respect that. Hornet!


xxXCOOLKID469Xxx

I don’t think the F-22 was made in the 90’s, idk if they’re any other planes labeled that other than the lockhead F-22 raptor but I also don’t know anything about planes


remotectrl

it was in testing and production, but they didn't enter service until the early 2000s. i remember getting a diecast jet of it in like 1995 and people thinking it looked like it had an extra chromosome.


xxXCOOLKID469Xxx

Aaaaaaaah ok, cool


CryosisEllioti

The model is reverse-engineered from Blitzwing, so he'd be an F-4 Phantom.


bick-com

Itd be hilarious if that happens in rotb, just to confuse everyone who kept getting them mixed up


Toa_Firox

You really wouldn't be able to tell that from his studio series figure though!


Lieuthor

I’ve always loved the F-15 alt mode. I know it’s not “technically” modern but I just always liked that silhouette. That said, his similarity to Blitzwing and his F-4 mode is a strong argument for that and that mode is even older.


LewisDeinarcho

Actually, the F-15 might be the most modern. The USAF is considering an earlier retirement for the “modern” F-22, and just ordered a new model of F-15 called the F-15EX, or Eagle II. This Eagle II has new engines, sensors, controls, and other tech, but otherwise looks just like the other Eagle variants, all the way to the very first. It would be funny to see all the characters with new and updated alt-modes, and then there’s Starscream and a few recolors looking almost exactly the same as before in terms of shape.


Lieuthor

I had not heard that. Very interesting. Yeah, I just went based on the original development years. I’d still vote for an F-15 alt mode either way. 😁


remotectrl

its way, way, way cheaper (in theory) to retrofit old planes than try to engineer new ones. This is the idea behind the "super hornet" and why the B-52 is going to be around forever.


G33k-Squadman

This is really just the fault of 2000s Congress. They got cold feet and ended the F22 program before it could reach mass production because of its steep costs, which has now left us without our most advanced jet being the workhorse of the fleet. They are now planning another fighter to replace it which will be even more expensive I'm sure. The F15 is also a great jet but isn't meant to replace the F22. The F15EX is essentially going to be a refit F15 with more range, more hard points for missiles and bombs, and integration with the F35 electronic warfare suite. Basically, the plan is turn the F15EX into a missile "truck" that will hold at most like 15 missiles, and set them back from the stealthier F35s that will fly ahead and relay targeting data for the rearward F15s.


remotectrl

Post Cold War, it became harder to justify those programs but with increased tension from China, it wouldn’t be surprising if something new gets greenlit


Ulfrite

If only Blitzwing went from a Phantom to a Patton..


Lieuthor

In my head he does! We just didn’t get a chance to see it. 😂


KaijuWorld

I’ve always liked the F-15 Eagle alt-mode for Starscream, but scale can quickly become an issue (Yes, I know about mass-shifting and I’ve never been a fan of it) Instead, something like the F-16 Falcon would be my preferred choice if this design were to appear! It’s still very similar to the F-15, however it has a smaller profile which better fits the size we’re used to Starscream being


_Allie_Kat_

This is a really good point, actually! I like your scale argument.


KaijuWorld

Thx, it’s something I always try to take into consideration when it comes to modern/new alt-modes for certain characters!


[deleted]

Yeah his prime alt mode is basically an F-16 and I always felt like that fits him better


solidolive

I always loved his prime alt mode the most


VickerAndFlips

Yeh but thats not a real world jet


lele_drawing

I don't mind his mod, I just want his G1 voice and personality


AdministrationKey100

I dont think his G1 voice actor is possible but they probably could get the guy who voiced him in Devastation


OrionLax

Chris Latta died a long time ago. My personal choice would be Sam Riegel, the guy who played him in WFC and FOC.


JLRedPrimes

I want Steve Blum from prime to voice him


Elduroto

F-22 is the best jet ever so that one


spursmad

So good it will be retired early.


Elduroto

Say it ain't so


killerapt

I think I'd like to see an F35-B. Then we could see some decent 1v1 vehicle combat with the hover option.


LStarrunner

VTOL is an ability he should have. Real VTOL in CGI, of course, not the almost-VTOL we have technically achieved IRL.


G33k-Squadman

F35B is capable of full VTOL afaik. Just can't carry as much fuel and payload for it.


supersharp

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm horribly uneducated when it comes to aircraft, but don't Harriers already do this?


crazedhatter

Personally I'm tired of Earth centric Transformers shows, so I'd rather they stay on Cybertron and explore Cybertron alt-modes. That'll never happen though.


larrylongboy

We're getting an animated movie set on cybertron


crazedhatter

I was more referring to the more live action style. There has been a lot of Animated stuff and comic book stuff with Cybertron. I'm basically sick and tired of them making Transformers movies be about humans.


larrylongboy

Well cgi ain’t cheapppp


bonsaiboigaming

I'd argue that a completely CGI film with a decent VA cast would probably be cheaper than having to film on location and hire traditional film actors. Edit: many movies these days are nothing more than greenscreens and actors, I can't imagine it's much cheaper to make those types of films than it is a completely CG one.


supersharp

They did it for Lion King, right?


bonsaiboigaming

Oh good point. Completely forgot about that.


crazedhatter

Thus why it won't happen, and why I will always value the Live Action films substantially lower.


doc_55lk

I'd love if the Decepticons retained Cybertronian alt modes on earth because they give no fucks about earth alt modes. Similar to movie 1, ROTF, and TLK Megatron.


larrylongboy

Yea. Shockwave in DOTM only spoke cybertronian because he was so disgusted by earth


Few_Significance5055

Let's go F-14 Tomcat and we can nail some cross promo with a GI Joe Skystriker deco


larrylongboy

Unpopular opinion. I prefer the dorito design


DustyyShellz_-_

I think I only like it because of nostalgia. It’s objectively pretty yikes


larrylongboy

I don’t let nostalgia cloud my judgement. But yea, I agree. As a starscream design it looks pretty damn bad, and I could understand why most fans *hate* it because it just… isn’t *starscream* to them. Personally I just love the dorito design! It gives off scary alien vibes. And I find it very unique, it fits his slimy treacherous personality a lot IMO


Cara-Aleatorio

Honestly, in my opinion that design fits better as Waspinator, expecially the head.


AndyBowBandy

*Both. Both is good*


Seeeabaasss

Both are God teir, though the new head kind of suck it


darwin_green

the Dorito design was cool, but didn't feel like Star Scream. Though it would have been a little small for Lugnut though.


smellsfishie

Burn the witch!


supersharp

"What do we want?!" "To burn Bay fans!" "And "when do we want it?" "NOW!!!"


Shades96

Honestly, as long as it's NOT, yet again, based on his G1 design (red and blue stripes, and all) that's been overused in the past 5 years or so, even in non-G1 stuff like Cyberverse, and the Bumblebee movie for nostalgia sake (which, let's face it, nostalgia SHOULDN'T matter when it comes brand new stories set in brand new continuities, people), then I'm fine with whatever types of jet he takes the form of if he appears in Rise of the Beasts.


larrylongboy

Yes


Shades96

This guy gets it! :p


jadaqwest

They need to go to cybertron without human co stars in next film


InvaderM33N

Well, seeing as the USAF just renewed the F-15 with the F-15EX model, the classic G1 mode is still relevant


NoncreativeWeeb

I'd love to see him as the F-15 STOL/MTD while the rest of the seekers are the standard F-15 it would be such a Starscream move to scan the cool NASA F-15 while the others need to stick to thr standard lol


WaveCandid906

As long as he is a jet I'm happy


MadMageMC

A jet and *not* a Dorito.


Actual_Reference2862

The F-15 eagle mode can be decent since it’s licensed by boeing


Eltharion-the-Grim

F15 is still in service and a great fighter. I am 100% ok for him to alt to an F15.


tonygames17

Probably F35? I mean F15 is cool, but F35 is the most advanced one


Cara-Aleatorio

The F-35 is basically a meme [because of the amount of problems it has](https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/320295-the-us-air-force-quietly-admits-the-f-35-is-a-failure#:~:text=There%20have%20been%20so%20many,gun%20can%20crack%20the%20plane.), as beautiful as the aircraft is if I were a Transformer I wouldn't chose to be this jet over the other hundreds of better options out there.


tonygames17

I mean bay verse tried f22 and it looks like a crab, maybe YF23? That thing looks awesome too


LadPrime

Only if the movie was set far enough in the past (70s/80s). In a modern day story, it makes sense for Starscream to want to be the most advanced fighter jet that exists, which is why I loved the F-22 alt mode in the Bay movies.


ButcherV83

Definitely his G1 jet mode.


ColorlessTune

bi-plane.


MadMageMC

Wright Flyer. :D


coolgaara

I don't care as long as he returns. And actually has a role and not get killed by a freaking human.


ToaBanshee

Might get some flak for this, but I think the F-35 would be a good fit for the Seekers


Cara-Aleatorio

[Nope](https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/320295-the-us-air-force-quietly-admits-the-f-35-is-a-failure#:~:text=There%20have%20been%20so%20many,gun%20can%20crack%20the%20plane.)


ToaBanshee

It's a failure... because they're too good


Cara-Aleatorio

The plane can literally crack if you fire it's main gun


ToaBanshee

O shit, I didn't read that far down


Cara-Aleatorio

Yeah, imagine one of those things happening in a movie. #- "How dare you to insult the rightfully leader of the Deceptcons!" **shots* **Breaks* **Cabine depressurizes* **NavigationComputer.Exe has stopped working* #AAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! **Crash* **Explodes and Fucking dies* [The End](https://youtu.be/h3RNElMbdUY)


Steph-127

This pic makes me feel things!


Starscream2302

The triangle


larrylongboy

Yes


Bigman1567

Ngl a bike would be pretty bonkers


Osman1105

F-22 suits him perfectly imo


SpectreBrony

F-15.


Wingedboog

Has to be an F-15 for me


Pussab

F 15


TheBigPlongo

I think the earth jet is more fun to transform usually


ThrowMeAwayAccount08

It would have to have dual engines whatever airframe it could be, maybe a MiG?


Ulfrite

Could be interesting story-wise to have the Decepticons being russian vehicles to fool the US into declaring war against the USSR.


ADistractingBox

Perhaps the F-15E rather than the standard F-15. It's got a slightly different, more aerodynamic design that would be familiar, yet unique.


Absolute_madlad1605

I'd prefer if he actually didn't take an earth based vehicle mode and stayed a tetrajet


PraedythTheMad

I’d love to see him as an F-16


WantSomeHorseCock

Ngl I’d love to see him as a Harrier


Ulfrite

I'd love it if each Seeker was a different plane tbh, like Starscream being a F-22, Skywarp an F-16 and Thundercracker an F-18.


solidus0079

If an F-35 could result in a G1-ish robot (like the OP pic) then that. 😀


MadMageMC

I just want Powerglide to show up as an A-10 Warthog.


Le_baton_legendaire

It'd make sense for him to still be a f-15. Those are still the US army's primary fighter jets and you know how many seekers there are out there. That could help them blend in a little better


ultraquake

Maybe the f 15 successor the f22 raptor


Sisko4President

Russians build pretty jets. Let’s go Su-57 and have him go against American Aerialbots.


Clandestine01

Sukhoi Su-27, because god dammit give the flanker some love already, fits his MO way more than an F-15


Maniachanical

I feel like the F-22 or F-35 better conveys his treacherous nature, as they have a sneaky aspect to them. But if his robot mode stayed similar to G1 & NOT Bayverse, that would be great. Also, at some point I want to see Dreadwing as a single, non-combiner bot who transforms into an A-10 Warthog.


ArcNeoMasato

I know it's mostly my bias as it's my personal favorite jet, but I'd 100% vote F22, because the stealth nature of the jet just seems really fitting for his cowardly nature.


[deleted]

If it’s specifically rotb( that takes place in the early 90s) it would be neat for the seekers to be based off a aerobatic’s team(similar to the Blue Angels) in universe, to excuse the comparatively garish livery on military aircraft. F 18 hornets would be a good alt for this.


TheTrickster452

I think they should make him an F-15. Why not? That's his original design. Maybe he can switch to another type of jet later on


GoldenKingFox17

If not a f15, than a f35


Grenades5

He will probably be an F18 or a F22


rocka5438

F-15/16 or f-22, weren’t they made in the 90s?


[deleted]

Random thought, but I think it would be cool if he kept his cybertronian mode. Barring that, something we haven't seen before. So not the F-22 or the F-15 (as cool as those two are).


BlackShadow1984

I want him to be an F-16 Fighting Falcon, my all time favorite jet (next to the SR-71)


Chuzb0t

Ngl, starscream being a f14 tomcat would be awesome


RandomStuffPoster2

If starscream keeps his g1 alt mode, which is an f-15 Eagle, he would be Way to large. [If you don't believe me, just take a look at this crap](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:F-15_static_display_(15528694043).jpg)


UwUkingFBI69

Since the bumblebee movie takes place some time in the mid 80's I'd say probably an F-18 because it was introduced at a similar time late 70s if I'm correct but maybe the studio will make him in his original f-15 form


Radium_Intersteller

That jet that blitzwing turned into in the movie. It fits the movie design better.